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texan
03-07-2014, 05:14 PM
Economy/Jobs, Foreign Policy and healthcare - about 33%-37% range..................down to the base.................It's so bad its rumored Hillary's team already told them to push the Ocare thing out past the presidential election. LOL, yeah sure he is a genius and the people we have been waiting for!:but:

Green Arrow
03-07-2014, 05:17 PM
So what? Congress is what is important. Change the Congress and you effectively neuter the President.

nic34
03-07-2014, 05:18 PM
yep, just confirms that folks wanted a REAL liberal for president...:laugh:

Green Arrow
03-07-2014, 05:19 PM
yep, just confirms that folks wanted a REAL liberal for president...:laugh:

And thanks to the Cigars, exotixes, jillians, and Ravis of the world, we got Bush III.

I'm right there with you, though. Give me a real liberal to vote for, and I will.

nic34
03-07-2014, 05:42 PM
By liberal I mean the Bernie Sanders kind...:grin:

texan
03-07-2014, 06:29 PM
It would be nice to see the liberals take some responsibility for their self inflicted wounds. Let's remember that Obama has two years of all dem rule and ticked off the public enough to generate a massive turnout mid term election. That congress was put there for good reason and it proved to be correct:

1. Trust me when I say this you can keep your doctor and insurance period!
2. Your insurance will go down $2500 per year.
3. If I don't turn this economy around in 4 years I am a one term president.

Let's keep it real.

Green Arrow
03-07-2014, 07:29 PM
By liberal I mean the Bernie Sanders kind...:grin:

He's all but declared his 2016 candidacy. If he runs, I'll almost certainly vote for him.

Matty
03-07-2014, 07:40 PM
So what? Congress is what is important. Change the Congress and you effectively neuter the President.


He still has his stupid pen and his stupid telephone.

Matty
03-07-2014, 07:40 PM
He's all but declared his 2016 candidacy. If he runs, I'll almost certainly vote for him.


Figures.

Mr. Right
03-07-2014, 08:00 PM
He's all but declared his 2016 candidacy. If he runs, I'll almost certainly vote for him.

I'll bet you'd vote for Hank Johnson if he ran, wouldn't you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q


How about Corrine Brown?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbBP9Em00A

Bernie Sanders has to be at least as intelligent as these inventors.

Green Arrow
03-07-2014, 08:10 PM
He still has his stupid pen and his stupid telephone.

Which are worthless without a Congress on his side.

Green Arrow
03-07-2014, 08:11 PM
I'll bet you'd vote for Hank Johnson if he ran, wouldn't you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q


How about Corrine Brown?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbBP9Em00A

Bernie Sanders has to be at least as intelligent as these inventors.

No, I wouldn't vote for either of them, actually, and no, they are not intelligent at all. Sanders is actually intelligent. Disagree with his positions all you want, he is very intelligent.

Mr. Right
03-07-2014, 08:27 PM
Regardless of a person's intelligence, would you vote for someone because they were intelligent or because of their positions? Hours after the Ukraine incident, Obama sounded like he didn't have a clue. Then after all his "teams" rally, he came to the mic with some semblance of intelligence. I don't want that kind of leader. I want one who knows enough about the game that the advisors or either un-needed, insignificant, or folks that the executive is highly skeptical of.

Bob
03-07-2014, 08:33 PM
Regardless of a person's intelligence, would you vote for someone because they were intelligent or because of their positions? Hours after the Ukraine incident, Obama sounded like he didn't have a clue. Then after all his "teams" rally, he came to the mic with some semblance of intelligence. I don't want that kind of leader. I want one who knows enough about the game that the advisors or either un-needed, insignificant, or folks that the executive is highly skeptical of.

You mean one with an actual working teleprompter?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMszKcpn2DU

Mr. Right
03-07-2014, 10:07 PM
Well, Bob.... let's not be redundant.... if we can help it, sir.... LOL.

Libhater
03-07-2014, 10:15 PM
He's all but declared his 2016 candidacy. If he runs, I'll almost certainly vote for him.

Is this comedy hour or what? Bernie Sanders is the only 'SELF AVOWED' socialist in the entire congress, and some of you
are singing this leftist's praises? You people are just plain sick.

Green Arrow
03-07-2014, 11:57 PM
Regardless of a person's intelligence, would you vote for someone because they were intelligent or because of their positions? Hours after the Ukraine incident, Obama sounded like he didn't have a clue. Then after all his "teams" rally, he came to the mic with some semblance of intelligence. I don't want that kind of leader. I want one who knows enough about the game that the advisors or either un-needed, insignificant, or folks that the executive is highly skeptical of.

You're assuming I'm not intending to vote for Sanders based on his positions. I think you and I might go farther if you try asking questions instead of assuming you know what I think and why I think it.

Green Arrow
03-07-2014, 11:58 PM
Is this comedy hour or what? Bernie Sanders is the only 'SELF AVOWED' socialist in the entire congress, and some of you
are singing this leftist's praises? You people are just plain sick.

Well, I am a socialist. Of course I support a fellow socialist. He's the only real representation we have in any level of U.S. governance.

Libhater
03-08-2014, 06:54 AM
Well, I am a socialist. Of course I support a fellow socialist. He's the only real representation we have in any level of U.S. governance.

Wow, just wow.....carry on!

Ransom
03-08-2014, 08:06 AM
Well, I am a socialist. Of course I support a fellow socialist. He's the only real representation we have in any level of U.S. governance.

Sheep in any other clothing are still sheep, G. We knew what you we're, there's a good lad. Ewe can carry on.

nic34
03-08-2014, 10:42 AM
It would be nice to see the liberals take some responsibility for their self inflicted wounds. Let's remember that Obama has two years of all dem rule and ticked off the public enough to generate a massive turnout mid term election. That congress was put there for good reason and it proved to be correct:

1. Trust me when I say this you can keep your doctor and insurance period!
2. Your insurance will go down $2500 per year.
3. If I don't turn this economy around in 4 years I am a one term president.

Let's keep it real.

Conservatives proclaim Obama as Bush III.

So which is he?

Until a real progressive is in charge, just look to yourselves for blame......

Mainecoons
03-08-2014, 11:15 AM
You mean like the clown in France?

Sounds like your kind of guy. And the kind of results your ideas bring.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/why-hollandes-france-is-the-sick-man-of-europe/article15566894/

Green Arrow
03-08-2014, 01:31 PM
I'll admit, I initially supported Hollande. I've since taken that support back. He was clearly the wrong choice.

Peter1469
03-08-2014, 02:10 PM
He is constrained by reality. He has pulled back on his more crazy economic policies.

Ransom
03-09-2014, 07:52 AM
I'll admit, I initially supported Hollande. I've since taken that support back. He was clearly the wrong choice.

Ain't the first or last time you're hoodwinked, Arrow. The youth often taken with song and dance from politicians offering your pie in the sky bullshit. You keep on admitting, I'll go put water in your bowl. For the love of God.

texan
03-10-2014, 08:30 AM
Couple things pop into mind:

1. I would have a little respect for Ocare if the unions didn't get waivers.
2. I would have more respect if he wasn't riding this drone program as cover for a lack of good foreign policy. I used to think ok ok hey great he is taking it to those guys with drones, he is different than past dems. But its almost like it is a gimmick (I know its real bombs but), he and his folks are hiding behind it like it makes him tough, like it defines him in foreign policy. But that's it! We do nothing else really. The world acted on Libya so that to me is an easy choice. The rest of the world is burning down around us and we stand by pretty much. We don't really take a side or stand for anything from a leadership prospective. We kind of muddle along and say something when forced or when someone else does. I am sorry but it is for sure a lack of leadership.
3. I think Bush was right on his foreign policy now. I think his war in Iraq went too far and you can lambast him for that I won't get in your way. But he pushed and openly led and supported a freedom agenda. That is taking a stance, that is leadership. No person will ever agree on everything, but he did pick a clearly defined path and that is the difference between these guys on foreign policy.
4. This guy is not a good at governing. He made an immediate rookie mistake his first year in office. HE chose not to work with anyone. HE decided he had a mandate with a dem congress and rammed this Ocare thing down everyone's throat violating every single campaign promise for openness and inclusion he promised. HE caused the landslide historical elections against himself. Close your eyes and imagine while he had the votes to pass Ocare what happens if he befriends a couple of pug ideas in the process and has some buy in? Now everyone bitches he can't get anyone to work with him. HIS FAULT!

On point 4. above, if we worked in an office together and I treated you that way you wouldn't be a good partner to me long term either.