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Ransom
03-14-2014, 10:02 AM
“It’s going to be very hard to hold the Senate — I think the Senate goes,” he said on Morning Joe on Thursday. “I think we heard from the Ghost of Christmas Future this week; they’re going to lose the Senate,” he added, referring to Republican David Jolly’s victory Tuesday in Florida’s special congressional election.

The ghost of Christmas future, Chris? Wow.

Where Jolly's victory can be interpreted as the Christmas future ghost, it occurred in a district Republicans have held for decades, I truly think it means very little.

I think Matthews and dims are scared...and trying to rally the troops. I believe they can see GOP artillery being lined up....they know they're vulnerable on Obamacare as well as recent event abroad making the President look weak. I don't believe these executive orders being handed out while he's unpopular are helping either....it's amazing these sheep continue to herd for him.


Matthews offered his own campaign advice for Democrats if they want to minimize the damage this fall: Go all-in on scare tactics. He encouraged Democrats to up the ante on various issues, such as framing voter-ID laws as attacks on minorities and pro-life measures as attacks on abortion rights.

Yeah...your President a complete failure.....your power in Washington evaporating before your very eyes....and what is Chris' message? Division. Run negative campaigns, try to convince others that the GOP is racist, bigoted, warring on women, try to paint your opponent as unamerican and unpatriotic. In other words, don't look at us...don't judge us by our performance, incompetence, or inability to govern, try to attack others. This is so typical of what we see in here daily. Right leaning members speak to content, issues, and solutions. Left leaning members speak to others, paste pictures, mock, or deflect from the issues at hand.

Dims cannot run on their record is exactly what Matthews is saying there.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/373268/chris-matthews-senate-goes-andrew-johnson#!

Green Arrow
03-14-2014, 10:15 AM
The ghost of Christmas future, Chris? Wow.

Where Jolly's victory can be interpreted as the Christmas future ghost, it occurred in a district Republicans have held for decades, I truly think it means very little.

I think Matthews and dims are scared...and trying to rally the troops. I believe they can see GOP artillery being lined up....they know they're vulnerable on Obamacare as well as recent event abroad making the President look weak. I don't believe these executive orders being handed out while he's unpopular are helping either....it's amazing these sheep continue to herd for him.



Yeah...your President a complete failure.....your power in Washington evaporating before your very eyes....and what is Chris' message? Division. Run negative campaigns, try to convince others that the GOP is racist, bigoted, warring on women, try to paint your opponent as unamerican and unpatriotic. In other words, don't look at us...don't judge us by our performance, incompetence, or inability to govern, try to attack others. This is so typical of what we see in here daily. Right leaning members speak to content, issues, and solutions. Left leaning members speak to others, paste pictures, mock, or deflect from the issues at hand.

Dims cannot run on their record is exactly what Matthews is saying there.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/373268/chris-matthews-senate-goes-andrew-johnson#!

People are making hay about Jolly's win because without Rep. Young on the ballot, the district is Democrat-leaning. Obama won that district handily in both elections, and up until the election, Sink was favored to win and Jolly was a long shot.

Max Rockatansky
03-14-2014, 10:18 AM
The Democrats should be very worried. The President keeps pushing back the mandate on Obamacare which indicates it won't work and only serve to piss off most of Middle Class America.

The jobs situation still sucks.

The accomplishments of the Obama administration are nil. All failures are regularly attributed to Bush. The IRS scandal, the Benghazi scandal and the NSA scandals are real. Even thought the Republicans are milking them for all the political juice they can get, nothing changes the fact those scandals actually exist and all happened on President Obama's watch.

MrJimmyDale
03-14-2014, 10:21 AM
I still say that I would want no part of being in charge for the next 4-6 years.....it is going to get ugly before things get better.

Whatever side ends up with congress or the oval office is going to take a beating with the economy and deficit.

midcan5
03-14-2014, 10:37 AM
Mathews is right in a sense but .... let's see if we can figure out what the republicans will run on? Guns for everyone, medicare and medicaid de-funded, no healthcare plan, lowering minimum wage or abandoning it, privatizing social security and/or making it optional, unfunded wars in which all the draft dodgers hide in dark rooms planning torture, loss of Habeas Corpus, corporations as people while real people lack jobs as tax policy benefits go to outsourcing, denial of a woman's right to family planning, denial of rights for gay citizens, voting policies that make sure only the wacko choir can vote, judges who think the world is four thousand years old, tax benefits for the wealthy as America's infrastructure collapses, tough love for poor children cause that makes them stronger and not eating makes you brighter and more attentive. Then the republicans can look to their past history, the great depression and the great recession along with the S&L scandal, unable to find Osama bin Laden but decided then to invade a country that nothing to do with 911 and is still a mess and has cost numerous American lives. Jeez that sure is a prescription for winning. Bring back another George W Bush and all will be honky dory. Is the American voter foolish enough to put this grand old party of incompetents back in power? Out of power they are at their best, whining they do well, governing not so well. See their history in my sig.

Green Arrow
03-14-2014, 10:42 AM
Mathews is right in a sense but .... let's see if we can figure out what the republicans will run on? Guns for everyone, medicare and medicaid de-funded, no healthcare plan, lowering minimum wage or abandoning it, privatizing social security and/or making it optional, unfunded wars in which all the draft dodgers hide in dark rooms planning torture, loss of Habeas Corpus, corporations as people while real people lack jobs as tax policy benefits go to outsourcing, denial of a woman's right to family planning, denial of rights for gay citizens, voting policies that make sure only the wacko choir can vote, judges who think the world is four thousand years old, tax benefits for the wealthy as America's infrastructure collapses, tough love for poor children cause that makes them stronger and not eating makes you brighter and more attentive. Then the republicans can look to their past history, the great depression and the great recession along with the S&L scandal, unable to find Osama bin Laden but decided then to invade a country that nothing to do with 911 and is still a mess and has cost numerous American lives. Jeez that sure is a prescription for winning. Bring back another George W Bush and all will be honky dory. Is the American voter foolish enough to put this grand old party of incompetents back in power? Out of power they are at their best, whining they do well, governing not so well. See their history in my sig.

Why not? Obama won on a similar platform.

Cigar
03-14-2014, 10:46 AM
The problem for Republican Candidates is; they always speak their minds in public, where the Voter can hear.

Enough said

Captain Obvious
03-14-2014, 10:58 AM
The problem for Republican Candidates is; they always speak their minds in public, where the Voter can hear.

Enough said

Sounds like worry to me.

Who wants to bet $20 that Cigar suddenly vanishes like a fart in the wind if they lose the Senate?

Mainecoons
03-14-2014, 10:58 AM
Don't count your chickens before they hatch and never underestimate the power of the Democrats to stuff the ballot box.

Green Arrow
03-14-2014, 11:00 AM
Sounds like worry to me.

Who wants to bet $20 that Cigar suddenly vanishes like a fart in the wind if they lose the Senate?

Maybe until big legislative battles.

Captain Obvious
03-14-2014, 11:00 AM
Don't count your chickens before they hatch and never underestimate the power of the Democrats to stuff the ballot box.

You mean pollo

The Wash
03-14-2014, 11:24 AM
Mathews is right in a sense but .... let's see if we can figure out what the republicans will run on? Guns for everyone

Cool. I'm in. Can I pick the weapon? I want a Barrett.

Bob
03-14-2014, 11:25 AM
Tingle Matthews, who?

The Sage of Main Street
03-14-2014, 12:10 PM
:angry::sad::shocked::cool2::huh::rollseyes::tongu e:
Mathews is right in a sense but .... let's see if we can figure out what the republicans will run on? Guns for everyone, medicare and medicaid de-funded, no healthcare plan, lowering minimum wage or abandoning it, privatizing social security and/or making it optional, unfunded wars in which all the draft dodgers hide in dark rooms planning torture, loss of Habeas Corpus, corporations as people while real people lack jobs as tax policy benefits go to outsourcing, denial of a woman's right to family planning, denial of rights for gay citizens, voting policies that make sure only the wacko choir can vote, judges who think the world is four thousand years old, tax benefits for the wealthy as America's infrastructure collapses, tough love for poor children cause that makes them stronger and not eating makes you brighter and more attentive. Then the republicans can look to their past history, the great depression and the great recession along with the S&L scandal, unable to find Osama bin Laden but decided then to invade a country that nothing to do with 911 and is still a mess and has cost numerous American lives. Jeez that sure is a prescription for winning. Bring back another George W Bush and all will be honky dory. Is the American voter foolish enough to put this grand old party of incompetents back in power? Out of power they are at their best, whining they do well, governing not so well. See their history in my sig.

BENGHAZI!!!!

U ben pwned. :angry::sad::shocked::cool2::huh::rollseyes::tongu e::evil::huh: !@#$%^&*()+]|\ !!!

MrJimmyDale
03-14-2014, 01:50 PM
Cool. I'm in. Can I pick the weapon? I want a Barrett. I'd settle for some reasonably priced ammo.........

Libhater
03-14-2014, 02:27 PM
Sounds like worry to me.

Who wants to bet $20 that Cigar suddenly vanishes like a fart in the wind if they lose the Senate?

I'm a gambler by nature and rarely do I place a bet on anything that isn't a sure bet. But I wouldn't be so quick to jump
on that bet that on the surface looks like a great bet. You see, cigar knows that he's holding the wrong hand in
everything that has obama's signature on it, but we have seen that cigar refuses to accept obum's failures as
CIC, and thus continues to play games here by posting the most ridiculous but amusing responses anyway. So you'll get
no bet from me.

Ransom
03-14-2014, 03:04 PM
No, I think Maine makes a great point here. Chicken counting before hatching is never a wise course. Republicans need to understand, this election is far from won....or lost. It's going to take hard work, money, grassroots, it's going to take ground game, game face, it's going to take cooperation....and guts.

We are going to have to earn it. Just because the majority party in the Senate is unorganized, off balance, and incompetent doesn't translate to a Reid firing.......we gott work. Hard.

patrickt
03-14-2014, 06:02 PM
Mathews is right in a sense but .... let's see if we can figure out what the republicans will run on? Guns for everyone, medicare and medicaid de-funded, no healthcare plan, lowering minimum wage or abandoning it, privatizing social security and/or making it optional, unfunded wars in which all the draft dodgers hide in dark rooms planning torture, loss of Habeas Corpus, corporations as people while real people lack jobs as tax policy benefits go to outsourcing, denial of a woman's right to family planning, denial of rights for gay citizens, voting policies that make sure only the wacko choir can vote, judges who think the world is four thousand years old, tax benefits for the wealthy as America's infrastructure collapses, tough love for poor children cause that makes them stronger and not eating makes you brighter and more attentive. Then the republicans can look to their past history, the great depression and the great recession along with the S&L scandal, unable to find Osama bin Laden but decided then to invade a country that nothing to do with 911 and is still a mess and has cost numerous American lives. Jeez that sure is a prescription for winning. Bring back another George W Bush and all will be honky dory. Is the American voter foolish enough to put this grand old party of incompetents back in power? Out of power they are at their best, whining they do well, governing not so well. See their history in my sig.

Following Midcan's logic, what will the liberals run on? Gun confiscation, total government control and mismanagement of all healthcare--Medicare is already been cut--$50 an hour minimum wage, all private pension funds confiscated by the leftists, mandatory abortions with pregnancies going to term only with government approval, unfunded everything including wars, judges who think unequal results mean racism, politicians who will believe in AGW or anything else that will allow them to have a 100% tax on all income.

Midcan, your stupidity was amazing but it is sort of fun. Oh, I forgot, and have the primary function of all government agencies the absolute and total destruction of all opposition to the leftists.

And Chris Mathews is not waving a white flag. That's his underwear.

Max Rockatansky
03-14-2014, 06:09 PM
I'm a gambler by nature and rarely do I place a bet on anything that isn't a sure bet.....
Non Sequitur.

I rarely place a bet on anything that isn't a sure thing, ergo I am NOT a gambler by nature.

As for Cigar, there are several highly partisan people on this forum. Cigar just happens to be your polar opposite.

Libhater
03-14-2014, 06:40 PM
Non Sequitur.

I rarely place a bet on anything that isn't a sure thing, ergo I am NOT a gambler by nature.

Say what? My home away from home is a casino, and I don't go there to sleep or lose.


As for Cigar, there are several highly partisan people on this forum. Cigar just happens to be your polar opposite.

No one is disputing that there are highly partisan people on this forum. Would be fairly boring if everyone had the same thought
process of say a cigar. Cigar is my polar opposite, and being so puts extra emphasis on my being right all of the time and cigar
being wrong all of the time.

Max Rockatansky
03-14-2014, 06:50 PM
Say what? My home away from home is a casino, and I don't go there to sleep or lose.

Dude, a sure thing isn't gambling. I have no doubt you spend a large amount of time in casinos.

zelmo1234
03-14-2014, 08:23 PM
Mathews is right in a sense but .... let's see if we can figure out what the republicans will run on? Guns for everyone, medicare and medicaid de-funded, no healthcare plan, lowering minimum wage or abandoning it, privatizing social security and/or making it optional, unfunded wars in which all the draft dodgers hide in dark rooms planning torture, loss of Habeas Corpus, corporations as people while real people lack jobs as tax policy benefits go to outsourcing, denial of a woman's right to family planning, denial of rights for gay citizens, voting policies that make sure only the wacko choir can vote, judges who think the world is four thousand years old, tax benefits for the wealthy as America's infrastructure collapses, tough love for poor children cause that makes them stronger and not eating makes you brighter and more attentive. Then the republicans can look to their past history, the great depression and the great recession along with the S&L scandal, unable to find Osama bin Laden but decided then to invade a country that nothing to do with 911 and is still a mess and has cost numerous American lives. Jeez that sure is a prescription for winning. Bring back another George W Bush and all will be honky dory. Is the American voter foolish enough to put this grand old party of incompetents back in power? Out of power they are at their best, whining they do well, governing not so well. See their history in my sig.

Well this one is a true believer, of this there can be no argument!

But I think that it will be more like this.

The will run on repealing Obamacare, which is a tax and providing affordable healthcare instead.

They will run on the proven polices of the past that provide jobs, instead of dependency

They will save the bankrupt SS system designed to doom the elderly to poverty and allow those that wish to invest in a program that will produce prosperity!

Need I go any farther. Dems are for you living for them, Conservatives are all for you being able to provide for yourself and your family!

Libhater
03-14-2014, 09:53 PM
Dude, a sure thing isn't gambling.

It is for me.

texan
03-14-2014, 10:19 PM
"You can keep your doctor and your plan"

May go down the biggest lie of the century! It is leading right now. When you do hese things there is a price to pay.

Ransom
03-15-2014, 07:18 AM
Don't forget the promises our insurance costs would decrease by 2500 or that this wouldn't add to our debt or insure the uninsured, this was a bucket of lies and all believed by his rabid supporters.

1751_Texan
03-15-2014, 11:44 AM
Well this one is a true believer, of this there can be no argument!

But I think that it will be more like this.

The will run on repealing Obamacare, which is a tax and providing affordable healthcare instead.

They will run on the proven polices of the past that provide jobs, instead of dependency

They will save the bankrupt SS system designed to doom the elderly to poverty and allow those that wish to invest in a program that will produce prosperity!

Need I go any farther. Dems are for you living for them, Conservatives are all for you being able to provide for yourself and your family!

Most GOPes will be running on Obamacare...what happens in 2016 if they fail to repeal, recind, or alter ACA in any meaningful way?

Ransom
03-15-2014, 02:16 PM
Most GOPes will be running on Obamacare...what happens in 2016 if they fail to repeal, recind, or alter ACA in any meaningful way?

Depends how many survive the cries of racism, war on women, and hate when we do hopefully repeal