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Philly Rabbit
03-20-2014, 12:24 PM
http://i59.tinypic.com/xq9fo4.jpg



It has been relentless and on going for many years now and the feminists lead on undauntedly by their radical leaders will always need oppressive males as their targets just like the race hustlers will always need racists. The liberal feminist, always the never ending victim of what they call the white male hegemony of american society is an important part of the social disorder within the liberal element of control of western secular society. It is one half of the main victim special group complete with it's Washington lobbyists with the other being minorities. Gender neutral politics which is completely void of any inkling socially of equal rights and holds with it a completely different definition from such being egalitarianism, always draws itself away from liberty itself like the polar opposite of a magnet as it's driving force.


Freedom of association and private rights, both once an important part of the male's constitutional rights in society have been neutralized under the guise of discrimination against females who still hold both for themselves but reject the same rights in every single aspect of sane and functional common sense situations used before for the sake of modesty alone and for the sanity of civilized society as a whole.


Abortion on demand, the vital lifeline of the feminists without which, they couldn't exist in any organized capacity that eliminates the father male figure within the family structure by way of moral relativism, the ruination of marriage and its transformation into a common joke, the destruction of male only institutions, the lunacy of equality of physical ability in all given situations both in the private and public sectors, the feminization of the churches and the absence of men in enormous numbers within their pews on account of it have all produced the false and pretentious visions of nirvana in America dreamed on by the egalitarians as the country staggers beneath the weight of billions of dollars in tax revenues being used to support the new government single parent society of paradise found while still ever searching for the next male oppressor right around the next corner or beneath the next rock.


The liberal feminist and her disdain for more conservative, traditional role playing women in american society have like all other women never been able to understand men or ever accept the fact that men and women are different, continue to try to change men and get them to think as women do for gender neutral reasons and along with the support of both the news commentary and Hollywood entertainment media have created an atmosphere in american society that being male is wrong and being feminized is being supportive of equal rights among the sexes. The results have been disastrous for the country and ludicrous and confusing to the point of mental confusion for too many of the country's male youth over exactly what roles they're supposed to play within it.

Ravi
03-20-2014, 12:29 PM
How sad for you.

Paperback Writer
03-20-2014, 12:50 PM
Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA in Europe and acted as an informant on revolutionary groups.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HRUEqyZ7p8

Paperback Writer
03-20-2014, 12:52 PM
She's no Mary Wollstonecraft!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Marywollstonecraft.jpg/250px-Marywollstonecraft.jpg


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Until the late 20th century, Wollstonecraft's life, which encompassed several unconventional personal relationships, received more attention than her writing. After two ill-fated affairs, with Henry Fuseli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Fuseli) and Gilbert Imlay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Imlay) (by whom she had a daughter, Fanny Imlay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_Imlay)), Wollstonecraft married the philosopher William Godwin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Godwin), one of the forefathers of the anarchist movement. Wollstonecraft died at the age of thirty-eight, ten days after giving birth to her second daughter, leaving behind several unfinished manuscripts. Her daughter Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin, later Mary Shelley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Shelley), the author of Frankenstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein), would become an accomplished writer herself.
After Wollstonecraft's death, her widower published a Memoir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoirs_of_the_Author_of_A_Vindication_of_the_Righ ts_of_Woman) (1798) of her life, revealing her unorthodox lifestyle, which inadvertently destroyed her reputation for almost a century. However, with the emergence of the feminist movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_movement) at the turn of the twentieth century, Wollstonecraft's advocacy of women's equality and critiques of conventional femininity became increasingly important. Today Wollstonecraft is regarded as one of the founding feminist philosophers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_philosophy), and feminists often cite both her life and work as important influences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wollstonecraft

MrJimmyDale
03-20-2014, 12:55 PM
http://i59.tinypic.com/xq9fo4.jpg It has been relentless and on going for many years now and the feminists lead on undauntedly by their radical leaders will always need oppressive males as their targets just like the race hustlers will always need racists. The liberal feminist, always the never ending victim of what they call the white male hegemony of american society is an important part of the social disorder within the liberal element of control of western secular society. It is one half of the main victim special group complete with it's Washington lobbyists with the other being minorities. Gender neutral politics which is completely void of any inkling socially of equal rights and holds with it a completely different definition from such being egalitarianism, always draws itself away from liberty itself like the polar opposite of a magnet as it's driving force. Freedom of association and private rights, both once an important part of the male's constitutional rights in society have been neutralized under the guise of discrimination against females who still hold both for themselves but reject the same rights in every single aspect of sane and functional common sense situations used before for the sake of modesty alone and for the sanity of civilized society as a whole. Abortion on demand, the vital lifeline of the feminists without which, they couldn't exist in any organized capacity that eliminates the father male figure within the family structure by way of moral relativism, the ruination of marriage and its transformation into a common joke, the destruction of male only institutions, the lunacy of equality of physical ability in all given situations both in the private and public sectors, the feminization of the churches and the absence of men in enormous numbers within their pews on account of it have all produced the false and pretentious visions of nirvana in America dreamed on by the egalitarians as the country staggers beneath the weight of billions of dollars in tax revenues being used to support the new government single parent society of paradise found while still ever searching for the next male oppressor right around the next corner or beneath the next rock. The liberal feminist and her disdain for more conservative, traditional role playing women in american society have like all other women never been able to understand men or ever accept the fact that men and women are different, continue to try to change men and get them to think as women do for gender neutral reasons and along with the support of both the news commentary and Hollywood entertainment media have created an atmosphere in american society that being male is wrong and being feminized is being supportive of equal rights among the sexes. The results have been disastrous for the country and ludicrous and confusing to the point of mental confusion for too many of the country's male youth over exactly what roles they're supposed to play within it. You don't collect butterflies do you?

Cigar
03-20-2014, 12:55 PM
Bring it ... :laugh:

Kabuki Joe
03-20-2014, 12:56 PM
http://i59.tinypic.com/xq9fo4.jpg



It has been relentless and on going for many years now and the feminists lead on undauntedly by their radical leaders will always need oppressive males as their targets just like the race hustlers will always need racists. The liberal feminist, always the never ending victim of what they call the white male hegemony of american society is an important part of the social disorder within the liberal element of control of western secular society. It is one half of the main victim special group complete with it's Washington lobbyists with the other being minorities. Gender neutral politics which is completely void of any inkling socially of equal rights and holds with it a completely different definition from such being egalitarianism, always draws itself away from liberty itself like the polar opposite of a magnet as it's driving force.


Freedom of association and private rights, both once an important part of the male's constitutional rights in society have been neutralized under the guise of discrimination against females who still hold both for themselves but reject the same rights in every single aspect of sane and functional common sense situations used before for the sake of modesty alone and for the sanity of civilized society as a whole.


Abortion on demand, the vital lifeline of the feminists without which, they couldn't exist in any organized capacity that eliminates the father male figure within the family structure by way of moral relativism, the ruination of marriage and its transformation into a common joke, the destruction of male only institutions, the lunacy of equality of physical ability in all given situations both in the private and public sectors, the feminization of the churches and the absence of men in enormous numbers within their pews on account of it have all produced the false and pretentious visions of nirvana in America dreamed on by the egalitarians as the country staggers beneath the weight of billions of dollars in tax revenues being used to support the new government single parent society of paradise found while still ever searching for the next male oppressor right around the next corner or beneath the next rock.


The liberal feminist and her disdain for more conservative, traditional role playing women in american society have like all other women never been able to understand men or ever accept the fact that men and women are different, continue to try to change men and get them to think as women do for gender neutral reasons and along with the support of both the news commentary and Hollywood entertainment media have created an atmosphere in american society that being male is wrong and being feminized is being supportive of equal rights among the sexes. The results have been disastrous for the country and ludicrous and confusing to the point of mental confusion for too many of the country's male youth over exactly what roles they're supposed to play within it.



...masculine is being replaced by feminine...by force if necessary...been saying this for a lot of years...but most American males refuse to believe the thought they are feminine...

Philly Rabbit
03-20-2014, 01:02 PM
Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA in Europe and acted as an informant on revolutionary groups.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HRUEqyZ7p8


I also heard she married some rich guy.

Nice role model for all those single mothers out there on government assistance who took her advice.

Captain Obvious
03-20-2014, 01:04 PM
I know these feminist kooks are out there.

But seriously, they're so far removed from mainstream that it's a waste of time paying attention to them - and paying attention is giving them what they're looking for - attention.

Who cares, they don't exist as far as I'm concerned. The world is smarter not knowing about them.

The Xl
03-20-2014, 01:05 PM
::Shrugs:: I just laugh and feminists and go about my business.

They are annoying as hell though, that's for sure.

Libhater
03-20-2014, 01:16 PM
Lest we forget that these liberal femanazis were nowhere to be found during bill klinton's
personal war on women, or even coming to the hilabeast's time of staged sorrow throughout
the entire klinton ordeal with the raping of women. Everyone knows that the femanazi agenda
is always politically geared with an accent on having a severe hatred of men. Guess that's why
the majority of them are muff diving lesbos.
But the OP is right, abortions are the signature statement of the femanazi movement, making
it quite clear that they hate life itself. Anyone calling themself a feminist today is seriously sick
in the head, period.

Ravi
03-20-2014, 01:24 PM
I know these feminist kooks are out there.

But seriously, they're so far removed from mainstream that it's a waste of time paying attention to them - and paying attention is giving them what they're looking for - attention.

Who cares, they don't exist as far as I'm concerned. The world is smarter not knowing about them.
He needs to blame his inadequacies on something...

Captain Obvious
03-20-2014, 01:27 PM
He needs to blame his inadequacies on something...

Yeah, everyone needs a demon to exercise.

It's just a waste of time focusing on any of this shit because it's so meaningless.

darroll
03-20-2014, 01:28 PM
Are there any cute Femanazi ?

Captain Obvious
03-20-2014, 01:30 PM
Are there any cute Femanazi ?



No

MrJimmyDale
03-20-2014, 01:31 PM
Are there any cute Femanazi ? I'm sure Germanicus thinks so...........

Paperback Writer
03-20-2014, 01:39 PM
No one read this OP because of the title. I'm sure of it.

protectionist
03-20-2014, 01:58 PM
Here's why the wages of men and women are different Because the women have a fairly decent wage from the affirmative action gotten job, and the men don't have a job at all.

Philly Rabbit
03-20-2014, 02:14 PM
Lest we forget that these liberal femanazis were nowhere to be found during bill klinton's
personal war on women, or even coming to the hilabeast's time of staged sorrow throughout
the entire klinton ordeal with the raping of women. Everyone knows that the femanazi agenda
is always politically geared with an accent on having a severe hatred of men. Guess that's why
the majority of them are muff diving lesbos.
But the OP is right, abortions are the signature statement of the femanazi movement, making
it quite clear that they hate life itself. Anyone calling themself a feminist today is seriously sick
in the head, period.

Sarah Palin is an excellent example of how agenda driven liberal feminists are also. Palin was degraded to sub human status and raked by even conservative republicans as well as media types and the feminists never said a word in her defense.

There is no woman that the liberal feminists detest more and even though Palin has pretty much gone Hollywood and is enormously wealthy now, the feminist hate button gets pushed every time with the mention of her very name..

nathanbforrest45
03-20-2014, 02:22 PM
...masculine is being replaced by feminine...by force if necessary...been saying this for a lot of years...but most American males refuse to believe the thought they are feminine...


Look, just because I now use a Man Moisturizer and have my hair styled doesn't mean I am feminine. And if you don't stop saying that I will hit you with my purse.

Philly Rabbit
03-20-2014, 02:25 PM
No one read this OP because of the title. I'm sure of it.

You did.

nathanbforrest45
03-20-2014, 02:27 PM
Yeah, everyone needs a demon to exercise.

It's just a waste of time focusing on any of this shit because it's so meaningless.

The Captain Obvious Theme Song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORxTYpFQqbo

MrJimmyDale
03-20-2014, 02:47 PM
...masculine is being replaced by feminine...by force if necessary...been saying this for a lot of years...but most American males refuse to believe the thought they are feminine... The Korean man that I get my pedicures from told me the same thing.......

But I don't agree with him at all!!!!

Kabuki Joe
03-20-2014, 03:02 PM
The Korean man that I get my pedicures from told me the same thing.......

But I don't agree with him at all!!!!


...depends, north or south Korean?...

MrJimmyDale
03-20-2014, 03:04 PM
...depends, north or south Korean?... South of course.......
Those North Koreans are too rough on my cuticals....

The Sage of Main Street
03-20-2014, 03:07 PM
...masculine is being replaced by feminine...by force if necessary...been saying this for a lot of years...but most American males refuse to believe the thought they are feminine...

If a worker won't stand up to his wife, he won't stand up to his boss either. The fact that you won't even debate the possibility that preppy progressives are agents of the Right Wing ruling class proves that you are wrong. You have no answers except to hug your Right Wing substitute father-figures and childishly yell, "That's not so!"

Kabuki Joe
03-20-2014, 03:08 PM
South of course.......
Those North Koreans are too rough on my cuticals....


...yeah, they aren't quite as civilized as the ones in the south...

patrickt
03-20-2014, 04:11 PM
1. Any man wearing a t-shirt that says, "Feminist and Proud of It" is desperately trying to get laid.
2. Nothing is more pitiful than a woman throwing a temper tantrum to get what she wants and then deciding she doesn't really want it.

Kabuki Joe
03-20-2014, 07:15 PM
If a worker won't stand up to his wife, he won't stand up to his boss either. The fact that you won't even debate the possibility that preppy progressives are agents of the Right Wing ruling class proves that you are wrong. You have no answers except to hug your Right Wing substitute father-figures and childishly yell, "That's not so!"


...maybe, maybe not...I don't think of it that way, it's more like removing male aggression from society...males are aggressive and uncivilized and it needs to be removed to make utopia possible...without males and their uncivilized ways, utopia is possible...

kilgram
03-20-2014, 08:52 PM
Are there any cute Femanazi ?


What is a femanazi?

kilgram
03-20-2014, 08:52 PM
1. Any man wearing a t-shirt that says, "Feminist and Proud of It" is desperately trying to get laid.
2. Nothing is more pitiful than a woman throwing a temper tantrum to get what she wants and then deciding she doesn't really want it.
I don't wear any stupid t-shirt showing my ideology but I am a proud feminist.

Green Arrow
03-21-2014, 05:09 AM
You know, I will be scarred for life. I was walking down the street yesterday, minding my own business, when a gang of women came running out of an alley, screeching at me. They threw bottles at me and called me all sorts of names. But that wasn't the worst of it...they physically attacked me. It was horrible.

I wish they'd end this senseless persecution of men.

Libhater
03-21-2014, 06:28 AM
I don't wear any stupid t-shirt showing my ideology but I am a proud feminist.

When exactly did you become a proud femanazi.....before or after your effeminazation operation into sissyhood?

Philly Rabbit
03-21-2014, 07:38 AM
...maybe, maybe not...I don't think of it that way, it's more like removing male aggression from society...males are aggressive and uncivilized and it needs to be removed to make utopia possible...without males and their uncivilized ways, utopia is possible...

A lot of women take toy guns away from their sons trying to accomplish this as a method of pacifying their sons and making them more emotionally driven like females are but it's been proven that young boys always find substitutes for the guns anyway. Feminists just the hate the fact that men from a very early age begin the process of separating themselves from female thinking and influence. This is nature's doing and nature itself has been replaced by egalitarian madness in gender neutralizing the sexes.

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 08:02 AM
1. Any man wearing a t-shirt that says, "Feminist and Proud of It" is desperately trying to get laid.
2. Nothing is more pitiful than a woman throwing a temper tantrum to get what she wants and then deciding she doesn't really want it.

1. Great idea, thanks.
2. Lovely generalisation of women. I'm sure you're a hit with them.

donttread
03-21-2014, 08:04 AM
http://i59.tinypic.com/xq9fo4.jpg



It has been relentless and on going for many years now and the feminists lead on undauntedly by their radical leaders will always need oppressive males as their targets just like the race hustlers will always need racists. The liberal feminist, always the never ending victim of what they call the white male hegemony of american society is an important part of the social disorder within the liberal element of control of western secular society. It is one half of the main victim special group complete with it's Washington lobbyists with the other being minorities. Gender neutral politics which is completely void of any inkling socially of equal rights and holds with it a completely different definition from such being egalitarianism, always draws itself away from liberty itself like the polar opposite of a magnet as it's driving force.


Freedom of association and private rights, both once an important part of the male's constitutional rights in society have been neutralized under the guise of discrimination against females who still hold both for themselves but reject the same rights in every single aspect of sane and functional common sense situations used before for the sake of modesty alone and for the sanity of civilized society as a whole.


Abortion on demand, the vital lifeline of the feminists without which, they couldn't exist in any organized capacity that eliminates the father male figure within the family structure by way of moral relativism, the ruination of marriage and its transformation into a common joke, the destruction of male only institutions, the lunacy of equality of physical ability in all given situations both in the private and public sectors, the feminization of the churches and the absence of men in enormous numbers within their pews on account of it have all produced the false and pretentious visions of nirvana in America dreamed on by the egalitarians as the country staggers beneath the weight of billions of dollars in tax revenues being used to support the new government single parent society of paradise found while still ever searching for the next male oppressor right around the next corner or beneath the next rock.


The liberal feminist and her disdain for more conservative, traditional role playing women in american society have like all other women never been able to understand men or ever accept the fact that men and women are different, continue to try to change men and get them to think as women do for gender neutral reasons and along with the support of both the news commentary and Hollywood entertainment media have created an atmosphere in american society that being male is wrong and being feminized is being supportive of equal rights among the sexes. The results have been disastrous for the country and ludicrous and confusing to the point of mental confusion for too many of the country's male youth over exactly what roles they're supposed to play within it.

Yup, they want to castrate our young men, except of course when they need something fixed or need some lovin

Captain Obvious
03-21-2014, 08:06 AM
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a6/a6aa8ceed4155ed60af8a3b260f182ef4550751c8153e6c5a3 e15c5a146da3cb.jpg

Captain Obvious
03-21-2014, 08:07 AM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/422/494/013.jpg

Captain Obvious
03-21-2014, 08:07 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/35a3b2c3de84edc17343c47be4104a06/tumblr_mustfe5IPI1sjsxf6o1_400.jpg

Captain Obvious
03-21-2014, 08:08 AM
http://www.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/fm12.jpg

Kabuki Joe
03-21-2014, 08:20 AM
You know, I will be scarred for life. I was walking down the street yesterday, minding my own business, when a gang of women came running out of an alley, screeching at me. They threw bottles at me and called me all sorts of names. But that wasn't the worst of it...they physically attacked me. It was horrible.

I wish they'd end this senseless persecution of men.


...you are a male, from what you say as a username on a forum, but a man?...really?...I've read your posts for awhile now and they don't look like the opinions of a man...just my opinion...this should get rina back here to protect you... ;)

Kabuki Joe
03-21-2014, 08:23 AM
A lot of women take toy guns away from their sons trying to accomplish this as a method of pacifying their sons and making them more emotionally driven like females are but it's been proven that young boys always find substitutes for the guns anyway. Feminists just the hate the fact that men from a very early age begin the process of separating themselves from female thinking and influence. This is nature's doing and nature itself has been replaced by egalitarian madness in gender neutralizing the sexes.


...once they figure out it's testosterone vs estrogen they will start altering children at birth so they have neither and that will make things better..."hi, this is my son Margaret...I named him after my grandmother"...

Kabuki Joe
03-21-2014, 08:25 AM
1. Great idea, thanks.
2. Lovely generalisation of women. I'm sure you're a hit with them.


...I know you are in all your gender neutral glory...do you swap panties with them?...

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 08:31 AM
...I know you are in all your gender neutral glory...do you swap panties with them?...

Do you believe that was a funny comment? You do, don't you? Bet you were proud of yourself for coming up with something so witty in your mind. :laugh:


Carry on, troglodyte. Can't wait to read your next posts.

Kabuki Joe
03-21-2014, 08:46 AM
Do you believe that was a funny comment? You do, don't you? Bet you were proud of yourself for coming up with something so witty in your mind. :laugh:


Carry on, troglodyte. Can't wait to read your next posts.


...so I take that as a "yes I swap panties with the ladies"...carry on...

Mainecoons
03-21-2014, 08:47 AM
You two keep this up and we'll have to get Obvious to post one of his animal pictures. :grin:

He needs to save those for Cigar's threads. :rofl:

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 08:50 AM
...so I take that as a "yes I swap panties with the ladies"...carry on...

I ask you, do you believe the above qualifies as "humour"? I'm curious as to how self-aware you are.

Kabuki Joe
03-21-2014, 08:53 AM
You two keep this up and we'll have to get Obvious to post one of his animal pictures. :grin:

He needs to save those for Cigar's threads. :rofl:


...he's funny...you know who are the easiest people to "hustle"?...the smart ones because they think they are so smart and above being "hustled"...this guy is priceless...but now that I let on to my game I don't know what he'll do...most likely his ego will keep him posting because he won't admit to being bettered by an ignoramus...or he'll stop posting...I think the ego will win out...

Kabuki Joe
03-21-2014, 08:56 AM
I ask you, do you believe the above qualifies as "humour"? I'm curious as to how self-aware you are.


...American blue collar humor vs british nose in the air humor...the only difference between us is I have been raised around brits, aussies, kiwis and irish, so I understand their humor...you don't understand mine...I find it amusing...

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 09:03 AM
Oh Kabuki Joe...just...carry on.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/61/b7/49/61b7499d929450b1a57b00196473e3a8.jpg

Kabuki Joe
03-21-2014, 09:07 AM
Oh Kabuki Joe...just...carry on.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/61/b7/49/61b7499d929450b1a57b00196473e3a8.jpg


...posting pics now, sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!...

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 09:17 AM
Captain Obvious

can you direct me to your secret stash of animal coitus pics? I've realised that Joe is a worthless receptacle of knowledge or words.

Captain Obvious
03-21-2014, 09:17 AM
@Captain Obvious (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=3)

can you direct me to your secret stash of animal coitus pics? I've realised that Joe is a worthless receptacle of knowledge or words.

https://www.google.com/search?q=car+pic&client=firefox-a&hs=Yw1&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=-UksU_zeKoWD0AHm8YGwAw&ved=0CDYQsAQ&biw=1206&bih=502#q=animals+humping&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 09:20 AM
Thanks mate!

The Sage of Main Street
03-21-2014, 10:52 AM
...maybe, maybe not...I don't think of it that way, it's more like removing male aggression from society...males are aggressive and uncivilized and it needs to be removed to make utopia possible...without males and their uncivilized ways, utopia is possible...

The femininny titwits and Dykes Adopting Tykes will change the Bible, too:

HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY MOTHER

Codename Section
03-21-2014, 11:01 AM
If you don't like feminists don't fuck one. I really don't understand all the crap on this topic. Men need to put some fucking pants on and stand up, instead of whining about what was lost.

Philly Rabbit
03-21-2014, 11:41 AM
http://i61.tinypic.com/1j9em0.jpg



The idea of everything being equal and nothing or no one being exceptional is the reasoning behind the feminization of America from the liberal feminist perspective and it demands from it's leaders an obedience without question or challenge within a politically correct atmosphere that is completely intolerant of anyone who dares to question the egalitarian feminists mantra of insanity. This is a mere case of fitting square pegs into round holes, of coming up with the perverted nonsensical answer of two added to two equaling five in grand Orwellian fashion. The country's most honored and cherished military academies, the police and fire departments, even private construction companies must adhere to the PC mantra of the egalitarian feminists or face scorn, social out casting, profit losses, tax auditing, sexist labeling and ruination disregarding the knowledge that men must be used in situations that require male masculine assistance in the first place or vital teamwork within a military combat unit that has to be sacrificed for the sake of gender neutralizing. It is a pretend game of gender neutral equality that reaches beyond all boundaries of sane civilization and stabilization for the sake of individual liberty itself.


Despite the actual fact that no other invention in human history gave women more financial independence in society than did the advent of the computer which opened up millions of good paying jobs for women in society along with other inventions within the home itself that made women's chores within them easier and less time consuming and there by giving them more time for independent seeking goals outside the home, the gender neutralizing and feminization of the country by the egalitarian feminists and their allies have created a situation of competition and resentment between the sexes that is a detriment to american society that is on going and destructive of normal man-woman relationships and stability which is essential in an american, properly functioning civilized society.

Codename Section
03-21-2014, 11:44 AM
I'm the first to say I don't think women belong in combat and will get men killed. I don't think we need women in the infantry. I'd even say that the women of the 1970's feminist movement went way too far and we're stuck with it now.

However, they didn't accomplish it on their own. Self-identified feminists are slightly over half of the females population which means all of this took the assistance of men to make happen.

Ravi
03-21-2014, 12:03 PM
What are women's chores?

My goodness you sound like a whiny bitch with a huge chip on his shoulder. I guess that's why you're blaming your mediocrity on women.

Ravi
03-21-2014, 12:04 PM
I'm the first to say I don't think women belong in combat and will get men killed. I don't think we need women in the infantry. I'd even say that the women of the 1970's feminist movement went way too far and we're stuck with it now.

However, they didn't accomplish it on their own. Self-identified feminists are slightly over half of the females population which means all of this took the assistance of men to make happen.

Men in combat get men killed.

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 12:06 PM
Men in combat get men killed.

Stop the presses, are you saying people die in war? You Americans are so bloody quick.

I do believe, however, his point was that they will be the reason for more men being killed unnecessarily. I quite agree. They're always the weak link on the football team.

The Xl
03-21-2014, 12:10 PM
You know, I will be scarred for life. I was walking down the street yesterday, minding my own business, when a gang of women came running out of an alley, screeching at me. They threw bottles at me and called me all sorts of names. But that wasn't the worst of it...they physically attacked me. It was horrible.

I wish they'd end this senseless persecution of men.

You should have been throwing right hands and left hooks, brah. Chivalry is great and something I abide by until shit like that happens.

Ravi
03-21-2014, 12:12 PM
Stop the presses, are you saying people die in war? You Americans are so bloody quick.

I do believe, however, his point was that they will be the reason for more men being killed unnecessarily. I quite agree. They're always the weak link on the football team.Are you talking about British soldiers? Because frankly, I'd feel more insecure with them on the combat field.

Philly Rabbit
03-21-2014, 01:01 PM
What are women's chores?

My goodness you sound like a whiny bitch with a huge chip on his shoulder. I guess that's why you're blaming your mediocrity on women.

If I even started to say anything like this, I'd get banned.

I think they call this a personal attack but in this case the author will get plenty of slack because she is a "victim."

Philly Rabbit
03-21-2014, 01:37 PM
If you don't like feminists don't fuck one. I really don't understand all the crap on this topic. Men need to put some fucking pants on and stand up, instead of whining about what was lost.

Is it OK if they have reproductive rights like getting married and not being the same as the guy across the street when it comes to that brilliant description of yours up there with the F word?

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 02:12 PM
Are you talking about British soldiers? Because frankly, I'd feel more insecure with them on the combat field.

http://armedforcesmuseum.com/top-ten-special-operations-forces-in-the-world/

Look at # 1 on the list Ravi


1. British SAS (http://armedforcesmuseum.com/british-special-forces-special-air-service-sas/) – The British SAS follow the sea, air and land training of the SEALs; http://armedforcesmuseum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/0000sas2ws5-300x192.jpg (http://armedforcesmuseum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/0000sas2ws5.jpg)however their training in counter-espionage is more in-depth and complex than the SEALs. Both the SAS and SEALs receive comparable training as they sometimes work closely. They are trained in numerous fighting techniques and remain the primary model in which most national commando units are based.

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 02:13 PM
If I even started to say anything like this, I'd get banned.

I think they call this a personal attack but in this case the author will get plenty of slack because she is a "victim."

Just tell her she's a catty bitch back and be done with it. If she's got balls and integrity she'll admit you're right.

Kabuki Joe
03-21-2014, 02:42 PM
http://i61.tinypic.com/1j9em0.jpg



The idea of everything being equal and nothing or no one being exceptional is the reasoning behind the feminization of America from the liberal feminist perspective and it demands from it's leaders an obedience without question or challenge within a politically correct atmosphere that is completely intolerant of anyone who dares to question the egalitarian feminists mantra of insanity. This is a mere case of fitting square pegs into round holes, of coming up with the perverted nonsensical answer of two added to two equaling five in grand Orwellian fashion. The country's most honored and cherished military academies, the police and fire departments, even private construction companies must adhere to the PC mantra of the egalitarian feminists or face scorn, social out casting, profit losses, tax auditing, sexist labeling and ruination disregarding the knowledge that men must be used in situations that require male masculine assistance in the first place or vital teamwork within a military combat unit that has to be sacrificed for the sake of gender neutralizing. It is a pretend game of gender neutral equality that reaches beyond all boundaries of sane civilization and stabilization for the sake of individual liberty itself.


Despite the actual fact that no other invention in human history gave women more financial independence in society than did the advent of the computer which opened up millions of good paying jobs for women in society along with other inventions within the home itself that made women's chores within them easier and less time consuming and there by giving them more time for independent seeking goals outside the home, the gender neutralizing and feminization of the country by the egalitarian feminists and their allies have created a situation of competition and resentment between the sexes that is a detriment to american society that is on going and destructive of normal man-woman relationships and stability which is essential in an american, properly functioning civilized society.


...excellent post...now be prepared for the PC "heshes" to protest this...just be prepared...

Green Arrow
03-21-2014, 03:43 PM
...you are a male, from what you say as a username on a forum, but a man?...really?...I've read your posts for awhile now and they don't look like the opinions of a man...just my opinion...this should get rina back here to protect you... ;)

Good for you! I don't really care. I'm happy with who I am.

GrassrootsConservative
03-21-2014, 03:47 PM
Feminists are actually in a war against all of the rest of the sane human race. They believe they are seen as inferiors because of their gender, which isn't true. They are seen as inferiors because they're modern Liberals. Their anger and frustration is very misguided.

Max Rockatansky
03-21-2014, 03:48 PM
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-Green Arrow
I think I've seen her on PH!

Peter1469
03-21-2014, 04:33 PM
What is PH?

sachem
03-21-2014, 04:37 PM
Feminists are actually in a war against all of the rest of the sane human race. They believe they are seen as inferiors because of their gender, which isn't true. They are seen as inferiors because they're modern Liberals. Their anger and frustration is very misguided.Fringe feminists. I'm a feminist and I consider myself sane.

Green Arrow
03-21-2014, 04:43 PM
What is PH?

Political Hotspot or some shit like that.

Max Rockatansky
03-21-2014, 04:48 PM
Fringe feminists. I'm a feminist and I consider myself sane.

You look quite sane to me......for a woman. http://imageshack.us/a/img21/2374/tgx.gif

Max Rockatansky
03-21-2014, 04:50 PM
What is PH?

Another political website; a hotbed of Left Wing Weenies.

Max Rockatansky
03-21-2014, 04:52 PM
Feminists are actually in a war against all of the rest of the sane human race. They believe they are seen as inferiors because of their gender, which isn't true. They are seen as inferiors because they're modern Liberals. Their anger and frustration is very misguided.

Women have a long history of being subjugated, especially in the Catholic church. The whole confusing of Mary Magdalene with the unnamed prostitute saved from stoning is but one example of diminishing Mary's important contributions to early Christianity.

sachem
03-21-2014, 04:53 PM
You look quite sane to me......for a woman. http://imageshack.us/a/img21/2374/tgx.gif

:tongue:

Max Rockatansky
03-21-2014, 04:55 PM
:tongue:

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/Bejules_photo/Personal/Bonanza/Boomers/kojak.jpg

(age check!)

sachem
03-21-2014, 04:57 PM
Kojak. I'm old enough to remember.

:D

Baby.

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 05:04 PM
Women have a long history of being subjugated, especially in the Catholic church. The whole confusing of Mary Magdalene with the unnamed prostitute saved from stoning is but one example of diminishing Mary's important contributions to early Christianity.

They got it from noncanonicals. Course there is also some marvelously sexy things going on in those, as well. Pity they didn't make it into the Bible.

Max Rockatansky
03-21-2014, 05:13 PM
Kojak. I'm old enough to remember.

:D

Baby.I love it when you talk sexy to me. :D

Good to know you remember Kojak. It makes it easier to relate when people are approximately the same age.

A few years ago when I was going through my divorce, I signed up on a dating website (plentyoffish). All kinds of options, but thought it best to limit the age range to something close to my own. I've seen some guys my own age date women half their age and never understood why. Sure, like Tessa above, they're pretty, but after sex, what is there to the relationship? What is there to share?

sachem
03-21-2014, 05:18 PM
I love it when you talk sexy to me. :D

Good to know you remember Kojak. It makes it easier to relate when people are approximately the same age.

A few years ago when I was going through my divorce, I signed up on a dating website (plentyoffish). All kinds of options, but thought it best to limit the age range to something close to my own. I've seen some guys my own age date women half their age and never understood why. Sure, like Tessa above, they're pretty, but after sex, what is there to the relationship? What is there to share?Yeah, talking to people who don't have the same cultural references is too hard.

Ravi
03-21-2014, 05:40 PM
If I even started to say anything like this, I'd get banned.

I think they call this a personal attack but in this case the author will get plenty of slack because she is a "victim."
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I was merely channeling my inner feminazi and couldn't help myself.

Ravi
03-21-2014, 05:42 PM
http://armedforcesmuseum.com/top-ten-special-operations-forces-in-the-world/

Look at # 1 on the list @Ravi (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=698)


1. British SAS (http://armedforcesmuseum.com/british-special-forces-special-air-service-sas/) ľ The British SAS follow the sea, air and land training of the SEALs; http://armedforcesmuseum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/0000sas2ws5-300x192.jpg (http://armedforcesmuseum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/0000sas2ws5.jpg)however their training in counter-espionage is more in-depth and complex than the SEALs. Both the SAS and SEALs receive comparable training as they sometimes work closely. They are trained in numerous fighting techniques and remain the primary model in which most national commando units are based.Follow being the key word.

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 05:43 PM
Follow being the key word.

Bollocks, you mean. You're full of it.

Max Rockatansky
03-21-2014, 05:50 PM
Follow being the key word.
LOL


Bollocks, you mean. You're full of it.
First, Ravi is correct.

Second, you're proving Brits are as sensitive as Bunny Wigglesworth.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_aIW33xGqs

Ravi
03-21-2014, 05:52 PM
LOL


First, Ravi is correct.

Second, you're proving Brits are as sensitive as Bunny Wigglesworth.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_aIW33xGqs
In general I agree. A lot of Brits are as sensitive as hell. Not that there's anything wrong with it. I've known one or two that aren't metrosexuals, though.

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 06:00 PM
LOL

First, Ravi is correct.


Hasn't been correct yet. This would be a first.



Second, you're proving Brits are as sensitive as Bunny Wigglesworth.


Responding to someone proves "sensitivity", yeh? If so, you're about as sensitive as a menopausal woman, Max.

Lastly, if you wish to insult someone proper-like use a reference that make sense to them. That would be from the 1990's onwards.

Ravi
03-21-2014, 06:02 PM
Hasn't been correct yet. This would be a first.



Responding to someone proves "sensitivity", yeh? If so, you're about as sensitive as a menopausal woman, Max.

Lastly, if you wish to insult someone proper-like use a reference that make sense to them. That would be from the 1990's onwards.
Off topic, but why do you only post here when you're in the US? I'm also curious to know if Americans post on Brit forums.

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 06:05 PM
Off topic, but why do you only post here when you're in the US? I'm also curious to know if Americans post on Brit forums.

Because if I were to post whilst on UK time it would be at off hours like Gerrard posts. Do you wish to post on a UK forum? I can point out a few where ex-pats post and Americans are treated fairly decently.

Paperback Writer
03-21-2014, 06:17 PM
Ravi

you should join. This bit of conversation is highly similar to the threads here, just different ethnic groups.

http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=34697.0

You'll have to change the time you post, however. It's already dead now.

Ravi
03-21-2014, 06:31 PM
Hasn't been correct yet. This would be a first.



Responding to someone proves "sensitivity", yeh? If so, you're about as sensitive as a menopausal woman, Max.

Lastly, if you wish to insult someone proper-like use a reference that make sense to them. That would be from the 1990's onwards.
Oh, and funny that you are likening yourself to menopausal women. Are there any Brits that don't do that?

Ravi
03-21-2014, 06:32 PM
Because if I were to post whilst on UK time it would be at off hours like Gerrard posts. Do you wish to post on a UK forum? I can point out a few where ex-pats post and Americans are treated fairly decently.
No, but thanks for the offer. As a rule, I don't actually care what Brits think.

Max Rockatansky
03-21-2014, 08:06 PM
Oh, and funny that you are likening yourself to menopausal women. Are there any Brits that don't do that?

British metrosexuals do seem to be struggling with their sexual identity, so I'll cut him some slack there.

GrassrootsConservative
03-22-2014, 03:32 AM
Women have a long history of being subjugated, especially in the Catholic church. The whole confusing of Mary Magdalene with the unnamed prostitute saved from stoning is but one example of diminishing Mary's important contributions to early Christianity.

Well that is the fault of religion, which is a FAR greater problem than feminism could ever hope of becoming. Religion has actually caused death and genocide upon the human race. All feminism kills is brain-cells and fetuses, the latter of which isn't even considered a person by many feminists.

BUT, if that woman did what many claim she did, then she would be deserving of way more criticism than that. She and her bastard offspring would be responsible for the holocaust, the crusades, the genocide and relocation of countless Native Americans based on the Christian idea of "Manifest Destiny" and so many other acrimonious atrocities perpetrated against the human race.

But anyway, back to feminism, what you talk about is ancient history. Women have less to be butthurt about than even blacks with the whole "slavery reparations" bullshit they keep trying to push. I know some sects of Islam have some problems with equality between males and females, but again, the problem there is religion, and feminists have even less of a chance of changing things there than they do anywhere else.

I know this rant has been quite long, so I'll end with a joke:

How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Undefined, because feminists don't change anything.

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 07:16 AM
No, but thanks for the offer. As a rule, I don't actually care what Brits think.

Then why interact with one so much and ask him so many questions?

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 07:18 AM
British metrosexuals do seem to be struggling with their sexual identity, so I'll cut him some slack there.

Mr. Darcy was a British metrosexual and there is a whole Austen cottage industry that caters to women's fantasies about him. Google "Mr. Darcy" sometime and you'll learn a great deal about women.

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 07:42 AM
Mr. Darcy was a British metrosexual and there is a whole Austen cottage industry that caters to women's fantasies about him. Google "Mr. Darcy" sometime and you'll learn a great deal about women.

Mr. Spock on the original Star Trek was very popular with women. Why? Because he was a "safe" date. Well, until the episode "Amok Time" came out, but that only happens every seven years.

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 07:45 AM
Mr. Spock on the original Star Trek was very popular with women. Why? Because he was a "safe" date. Well, until the episode "Amok Time" came out, but that only happens every seven years.

Speaking of Spock...

http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/It s been raining every day here in Florida _8fce29a5ca7202274fdcf49f98aa8c06.jpg


Just take some deep breaths and then come back at me with better insults and jibes.

kilgram
03-22-2014, 07:52 AM
This thread has become the ideal thread for the sexists, aka "machista" to rant against women. Inventing reasons and inventing problems that cause feminism. Obviously, from the machista or conservative viewpoint it is a menace to their power positions and affect to their low self esteem and as they don't have self esteem need non-independent women that serve them and do everything they say to her to do.

Yes, my opinion about the sexist and machist ones, they already know to whom I refer is that their opinions are nauseabund, reactionary and go against any idea of social justice and equality.

Women have had closed many doors until these days, and even today women is considered inferior in many cultures, only in Occidental world the sexism against women (caused mainly by religions) is being defeated, but the war is not finished, there are many things to do.

Peter1469
03-22-2014, 08:06 AM
Oh boy.... (http://www.wikihow.com/Find-a-Modern-Day-Mr.-Darcy)


Mr. Darcy was a British metrosexual and there is a whole Austen cottage industry that caters to women's fantasies about him. Google "Mr. Darcy" sometime and you'll learn a great deal about women.

Peter1469
03-22-2014, 08:07 AM
That's OK, you can still hang out with the real men. :smiley:


This thread has become the ideal thread for the sexists, aka "machista" to rant against women. Inventing reasons and inventing problems that cause feminism. Obviously, from the machista or conservative viewpoint it is a menace to their power positions and affect to their low self esteem and as they don't have self esteem need non-independent women that serve them and do everything they say to her to do.

Yes, my opinion about the sexist and machist ones, they already know to whom I refer is that their opinions are nauseabund, reactionary and go against any idea of social justice and equality.

Women have had closed many doors until these days, and even today women is considered inferior in many cultures, only in Occidental world the sexism against women (caused mainly by religions) is being defeated, but the war is not finished, there are many things to do.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:09 AM
This thread has become the ideal thread for the sexists, aka "machista" to rant against women. Inventing reasons and inventing problems that cause feminism. Obviously, from the machista or conservative viewpoint it is a menace to their power positions and affect to their low self esteem and as they don't have self esteem need non-independent women that serve them and do everything they say to her to do.

Yes, my opinion about the sexist and machist ones, they already know to whom I refer is that their opinions are nauseabund, reactionary and go against any idea of social justice and equality.

Women have had closed many doors until these days, and even today women is considered inferior in many cultures, only in Occidental world the sexism against women (caused mainly by religions) is being defeated, but the war is not finished, there are many things to do.


...I think you misunderstand the issue, it's not about females/women, it's about feminist views...feminist views are extreme and I don't like how they are impacting society...gay rights, animal rights and civil rights regarding criminal/prison inmate treatment are just 3 issues off the top of my head that are way overboard...I don't care about gay rights, I don't care about animal rights and I don't care about the rights of people that broke the law and forfeited their civil rights...I don't care about these 3 issues but feminists do...

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 08:10 AM
...I think you misunderstand the issue, it's not about females/women, it's about feminist views...feminist views are extreme and I don't like how they are impacting society...gay rights, animal rights and civil rights regarding criminal/prison inmate treatment are just 3 issues off the top of my head that are way overboard...I don't care about gay rights, I don't care about animal rights and I don't care about the rights of people that broke the law and forfeited their civil rights...I don't care about these 3 issues but feminists do...

Non-feminists also care about those things.

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 08:11 AM
Oh boy.... (http://www.wikihow.com/Find-a-Modern-Day-Mr.-Darcy)

I'm getting real tired of military and ex-military guys who have obsessive compulsive disorder about organization and weapons obsession.

Peter1469
03-22-2014, 08:14 AM
I'm getting real tired of military and ex-military guys who have obsessive compulsive disorder about organization and weapons obsession.

I find that hard to believe.... :wink:

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 08:14 AM
I find that hard to believe.... :wink:

I'm not saying they're not hot. Those types unfortunately usually are.

I'm tired of the OCD.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:19 AM
Non-feminists also care about those things.

...listen to me again, I don't care about gay rights but people like you force the issue on people like me, I don't care about animal rights but people like you force the issue on people like me and I sure as hell don't care about someone that did wrong and got caught thus giving up their civil rights but people like you force the issue on people like me...as a male/man I don't have empathy, but I do have sympathy...you are empathetic, which is a female/woman trait...I know, I know, I'm an asshole but this is science...

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 08:20 AM
...listen to me again, I don't care about gay rights but people like you force the issue on people like me, I don't care about animal rights but people like you force the issue on people like me and I sure as hell don't care about someone that did wrong and got caught thus giving up their civil rights but people like you force the issue on people like me...as a male/man I don't have empathy, but I do have sympathy...you are empathetic, which is a female/woman trait...I know, I know, I'm an asshole but this is science...

How am I forcing the issue on you?

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:21 AM
How am I forcing the issue on you?


...legislation...

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 08:22 AM
...legislation...

What legislation have I advocated that would force those issues on you?

kilgram
03-22-2014, 08:23 AM
...I think you misunderstand the issue, it's not about females/women, it's about feminist views...feminist views are extreme and I don't like how they are impacting society...gay rights, animal rights and civil rights regarding criminal/prison inmate treatment are just 3 issues off the top of my head that are way overboard...I don't care about gay rights, I don't care about animal rights and I don't care about the rights of people that broke the law and forfeited their civil rights...I don't care about these 3 issues but feminists do...

Sorry, Bit you are proving that you don't understand about you are talking. Feminism is a social movement for the women liberation, only that.

You mentioned other social movements unrelated with feminism.

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Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:25 AM
What legislation have I advocated that would force those issues on you?



...listen to me again, I don't care about gay rights but people like you force the issue on people like me, I don't care about animal rights but people like you force the issue on people like me and I sure as hell don't care about someone that did wrong and got caught thus giving up their civil rights but people like you force the issue on people like me...as a male/man I don't have empathy, but I do have sympathy...you are empathetic, which is a female/woman trait...I know, I know, I'm an asshole but this is science...


...did you miss this part?...

kilgram
03-22-2014, 08:26 AM
...listen to me again, I don't care about gay rights but people like you force the issue on people like me, I don't care about animal rights but people like you force the issue on people like me and I sure as hell don't care about someone that did wrong and got caught thus giving up their civil rights but people like you force the issue on people like me...as a male/man I don't have empathy, but I do have sympathy...you are empathetic, which is a female/woman trait...I know, I know, I'm an asshole but this is science...

Empathy is female trait? This is not science is other thing.

And are you not forcing on the rest your ideology when you want to restrict freedom?

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 08:28 AM
...did you miss this part?...

No, I saw it. If they are like me, they advocate the same things I do. My question stands.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:29 AM
Sorry, Bit you are proving that you don't understand about you are talking. Feminism is a social movement for the women liberation, only that.

You mentioned other social movements unrelated with feminism.

Enviado desde mi MT15i usando Tapatalk 2


...and part of that is replacing old, outdated male/men ideals with better feminist ideals...in society as a whole...social reform via feminist ideals...I've been told this so many times I lost count...

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:38 AM
Empathy is female trait? This is not science is other thing.

And are you not forcing on the rest your ideology when you want to restrict freedom?


...pretty much empathy is what women do (see link in signature biological sex vs gender)...and see just like every good feminazi, you are taking this to the extreme...I never said we need to take anything away from anyone, we just need to allow people the right to run their lives as they see fit and the right to choose not to make a wedding cake for a same sex marriage ceremony and the right to choose not to take wedding photos for a same sex wedding ceremony is not allowed by people like you...it's very simple but the idea in a feminist society is unacceptable...me, I don't care but I'm forced to by you, get it?...

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:41 AM
No, I saw it. If they are like me, they advocate the same things I do. My question stands.


...I already know the answer but I'll play along anyway, so you don't support legislation for gay rights?...animal rights?...and prison inmate civil rights?...yes or no please...

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 08:41 AM
...I already know the answer but I'll play along anyway, so you don't support legislation for gay rights?...animal rights?...and prison inmate civil rights?...yes or no please...

No, no, and no.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:44 AM
No, no, and no.


:huh: ...maybe on the last 2 but you are not being honest about the first...I've watched your heartfelt posts for a while now and you are very pro gay and I don't believe you are against legislation to protect gays...

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 08:45 AM
:huh: ...maybe on the last 2 but you are not being honest about the first...I've watched your heartfelt posts for a while now and you are very pro gay and I don't believe you are against legislation to protect gays...

*shrug* You can not believe it all you want, it's true. I don't believe legislation is the right way to go.

kilgram
03-22-2014, 08:52 AM
...and part of that is replacing old, outdated male/men ideals with better feminist ideals...in society as a whole...social reform via feminist ideals...I've been told this so many times I lost count...

If female ideals according to you are those that lead us to a more human society and less barbarian, I stick with them.

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Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:54 AM
*shrug* You can not believe it all you want, it's true. I don't believe legislation is the right way to go.


...I agree but the left doesn't look at it that way...if you can't make someone change through shame, make them by law...

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 08:55 AM
If female ideals according to you are those that lead us to a more human society and less barbarian, I stick with them.

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...then what are we arguing about?...you are saying the same thing I am...

The Sage of Main Street
03-22-2014, 09:51 AM
If you don't like feminists don't fuck one. I really don't understand all the crap on this topic. Men need to put some fucking pants on and stand up, instead of whining about what was lost.

How do the Australians get away with treating women naturally? Maybe when an Australian guy begs for it, his mates mock him, while Americans would not if it gets the guy a date.

The Sage of Main Street
03-22-2014, 09:59 AM
What is PH?

Pussylickers Hugging?

The Sage of Main Street
03-22-2014, 10:11 AM
don't care about someone who did wrong and got caught thus giving up their civil rights

You don't have much masculine consciousness, or else you'd realize that your use of their to refer to a singular, "someone," has been forced on us by femininny hysterics over the fact that he has always been used for "he or she." If you don't know that, you probably don't realize that it also refers to his, not their, being used for "his or her." He merely means "this person" and is related to here, "this place."

Paperback Writer
03-22-2014, 10:48 AM
I'm getting real tired of military and ex-military guys who have obsessive compulsive disorder about organization and weapons obsession.

:huh:

Codename Section
03-22-2014, 11:08 AM
:huh:

Goose, she's lost that loving feeling...

GrassrootsConservative
03-22-2014, 11:09 AM
Who did hear about new way of femenism called FEMEN ?
Germanicus brought this up in another thread a few days ago. As for me I have no interest in anyone related to the Feminazi movement, or any other movement that wishes to elevate itself above me as a person (be it neo-nazis, black panthers, or any brand of religion) because they simply don't deserve my interest. Those groups attract the rats too ignorant for the rest of society, and for a good reason.

Paperback Writer
03-22-2014, 11:17 AM
Goose, she's lost that loving feeling...

:)

No, she hasn't.

Codename Section
03-22-2014, 11:29 AM
Alyosha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLzVbz2HHzo

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 11:36 AM
Who did hear about new way of femenism called FEMEN ?
6382
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Yeah, I've seen lots of their boo-er, I mean, movement. What about them?

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 11:37 AM
Germanicus brought this up in another thread a few days ago. As for me I have no interest in anyone related to the Feminazi movement, or any other movement that wishes to elevate itself above me as a person (be it neo-nazis, black panthers, or any brand of religion) because they simply don't deserve my interest. Those groups attract the rats too ignorant for the rest of society, and for a good reason.

Dude, they are boobs, and nice ones at that, on hot women. Feminazis or not, who gives a shit?

GrassrootsConservative
03-22-2014, 11:42 AM
Dude, they are boobs, and nice ones at that, on hot women. Feminazis or not, who gives a shit?

Lipstick on the pig, my friend. I am too much of a loving person to get past all that Feminazi hate. These people might look nice on the outside, but inside they are loathsome and cold.

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 11:43 AM
Lipstick on the pig, my friend. I am too much of a loving person to get past all that Feminazi hate. These people might look nice on the outside, but inside they are loathsome and cold.

Well, all we have to deal with is pictures, and very nice ones :tongue:

Paperback Writer
03-22-2014, 11:44 AM
Lipstick on the pig, my friend. I am too much of a loving person to get past all that Feminazi hate. These people might look nice on the outside, but inside they are loathsome and cold.

I didn't think they were that hot, just naked. I could care less if a woman is loathsome and cold if they were hot.

Seriy
03-22-2014, 11:47 AM
Yeah, I've seen lots of their boo-er, I mean, movement. What about them?
To learn more about these new breed fo feminists, you can open your Wiki and look at a word in caps FEMEN. Plenty of info. :)

GrassrootsConservative
03-22-2014, 11:49 AM
I didn't think they were that hot, just naked. I could care less if a woman is loathsome and cold if they were hot.

Please. You don't care if ANYONE is loathsome or cold. You're British. That's like saying an Irish person could care less if someone else gets drunk and starts a fight in a bar. It would be quite hypocritical to say anything else.

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 11:50 AM
@Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLzVbz2HHzo


Is this the part where I tell you that you can sit down, or ya know, open the door and walk in? It only works if you sing in real life, too.

Philly Rabbit
03-22-2014, 12:14 PM
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I was merely channeling my inner feminazi and couldn't help myself.


You're not sorry about anything. And "hurt feelings" are a liberal excuse for a politically incorrect hate speech crime.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 12:14 PM
How do the Australians get away with treating women naturally? Maybe when an Australian guy begs for it, his mates mock him, while Americans would not if it gets the guy a date.


...Aussie chics love American men because they can push them around...

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 12:18 PM
You don't have much masculine consciousness, or else you'd realize that your use of their to refer to a singular, "someone," has been forced on us by femininny hysterics over the fact that he has always been used for "he or she." If you don't know that, you probably don't realize that it also refers to his, not their, being used for "his or her." He merely means "this person" and is related to here, "this place."

...gender vs biological sex...men don't need to be male and women don't need to be female...look at the link in my signature...it's anthropology...

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 01:10 PM
Some men don't know what to do with strong so they choose weak ones. Ironically, they're the same ones who feel men are superior to women and yet admittedly cannot control us due to their own weakness.

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 01:28 PM
...listen to me again, I don't care about gay rights but people like you force the issue on people like me, I don't care about animal rights but people like you force the issue on people like me and I sure as hell don't care about someone that did wrong and got caught thus giving up their civil rights but people like you force the issue on people like me...as a male/man I don't have empathy, but I do have sympathy...you are empathetic, which is a female/woman trait...I know, I know, I'm an asshole but this is science...

Empathy is not a feminine trait, it is a human trait. Lack of empathy is one of the key symptoms for various personality disorders.



Narcissistic Personality Disorder - Diagnostic Criteria, American Psychiatric Association (http://www.psychiatry.org/dsm5)

An individual diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder needs to show at least 5 of the following criteria:

Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).

Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
Requires excessive admiration.
Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.

Additionally, individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder frequently lack empathy and tend to be callous, cynical, and contemptuous of the feelings, rights, and sufferings of others. It is also a key symptom in Psychopathy.

GrassrootsConservative
03-22-2014, 01:33 PM
Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
Requires excessive admiration.
Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.



Holy shit. I've seen all of this from 90% or more of the Liberals I have encountered in my lifetime. I feel totally enlightened.

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 01:34 PM
Wow, that's a huge surprise that Kabuki Joe lacks empathy. Next up, he'll admit he's insecure and a crybaby. :rollseyes:

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 01:42 PM
Empathy is not a feminine trait, it is a human trait. Lack of empathy is one of the key symptoms for various personality disorders.



Narcissistic Personality Disorder - Diagnostic Criteria, American Psychiatric Association (http://www.psychiatry.org/dsm5)

An individual diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder needs to show at least 5 of the following criteria:

Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).

Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
Requires excessive admiration.
Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.

Additionally, individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder frequently lack empathy and tend to be callous, cynical, and contemptuous of the feelings, rights, and sufferings of others. It is also a key symptom in Psychopathy.


...in your opinion it's a good thing, but "clinically speaking" it's a bad thing...I used to have a quote from a PhD Psychologist I know that puts it (empathy) in perspective...and while I was down in California talking with a bunch of mental health specialists a week ago it was confirmed...

"the difference between sympathy and empathy is when you walk up on a person standing in a hole; sympathy makes you run down the road to get help, empathy makes you jump into the hole to help and now you have 2 people in crisis instead of 1"


...this is straight from a PhD psychologist that makes his living with mental health...crisis btw is a bad thing...

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 02:08 PM
Holy shit. I've seen all of this from 90% or more of the Liberals I have encountered in my lifetime. I feel totally enlightened.

Lack of empathy as an element of personality disorder is not a liberal invention, it comes from science. I am arguing it is not a feminine trait, it is a trait that should be developed in all children before the age of five, otherwise that person can quite easily become a social predator, capable of all manner of callous behavior including abusing children, animals and at its worse, serial murder.

Paperback Writer
03-22-2014, 02:11 PM
...in your opinion it's a good thing, but "clinically speaking" it's a bad thing...I used to have a quote from a PhD Psychologist I know that puts it (empathy) in perspective...and while I was down in California talking with a bunch of mental health specialists a week ago it was confirmed...

"the difference between sympathy and empathy is when you walk up on a person standing in a hole; sympathy makes you run down the road to get help, empathy makes you jump into the hole to help and now you have 2 people in crisis instead of 1"


...this is straight from a PhD psychologist that makes his living with mental health...crisis btw is a bad thing...

When I was speaking to a PhD psychologist the other day that makes his living in mental health, he told me you were shite.

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 02:19 PM
...in your opinion it's a good thing, but "clinically speaking" it's a bad thing...I used to have a quote from a PhD Psychologist I know that puts it (empathy) in perspective...and while I was down in California talking with a bunch of mental health specialists a week ago it was confirmed...

"the difference between sympathy and empathy is when you walk up on a person standing in a hole; sympathy makes you run down the road to get help, empathy makes you jump into the hole to help and now you have 2 people in crisis instead of 1"


...this is straight from a PhD psychologist that makes his living with mental health...crisis btw is a bad thing...

Sounds like a psychology conference joke.

Empathy is what stops a child from inflicting pain or injury on his/her younger sibling or setting the family cat on fire. It is putting yourself into the shoes of the other. Sympathy is acknowledging the emotional hardships of others and providing comfort and assurance. They differ in emotional meaning.

GrassrootsConservative
03-22-2014, 02:23 PM
Lack of empathy as an element of personality disorder is not a liberal invention, it comes from science. I am arguing it is not a feminine trait, it is a trait that should be developed in all children before the age of five, otherwise that person can quite easily become a social predator, capable of all manner of callous behavior including abusing children, animals and at its worse, serial murder.

Nobody said otherwise, but it's a nice strawman. All I'm saying is that I have
seen all of this from 90% or more of the Liberals I have encountered in my lifetime..

You don't need to look any further into it than that.

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 02:32 PM
Nobody said otherwise, but it's a nice strawman. All I'm saying is that I have .

You don't need to look any further into it than that.

I fail to see how there is any straw man in my argument. If anything you presented a straw man by introducing an element of "liberalism" to the argument. I was offering a rebuttal to KJ's assertion that empathy was a feminine trait as opposed to being a human trait.

GrassrootsConservative
03-22-2014, 02:41 PM
I fail to see how there is any straw man in my argument. If anything you presented a straw man by introducing an element of "liberalism" to the argument. I was offering a rebuttal to KJ's assertion that empathy was a feminine trait as opposed to being a human trait.

Quite simply you misrepresented my argument with that stuff about "Liberal inventions," as if anyone here had said anything of the sort.

/Edit: As if Liberalism has ever "invented" anything. :rollseyes:

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 02:48 PM
Sounds like a psychology conference joke.

Empathy is what stops a child from inflicting pain or injury on his/her younger sibling or setting the family cat on fire. It is putting yourself into the shoes of the other. Sympathy is acknowledging the emotional hardships of others and providing comfort and assurance. They differ in emotional meaning.


...I thought you were smarter then you obviously are...my apologies...

"Empathy is what stops a child from inflicting pain or injury on his/her younger sibling or setting the family cat on fire."

...empathy means you literally feel the pain someone else feels so in this instance you are lighting the child on fire to show him what it feels like to be on fire, follow me?...that's not a good thing for an adult to do to a child...sympathy would be, "I've never been lit on fire, but I'd imagine it hurts, don't do it"...your grasp of ideas is not very good...

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 02:51 PM
emĚpaĚthy noun \ˈem-pə-thē\ : the feeling that you understand and share another person's experiences and emotions : the ability to share someone else's feelings




Full Definition of EMPATHY1
: the imaginative projection (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/projection) of a subjective state into an object so that the object appears to be infused with it

2
: the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vicarious) experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/explicit) manner; also : the capacity for this


symĚpaĚthy noun \ˈsim-pə-thē\ : the feeling that you care about and are sorry about someone else's trouble, grief, misfortune, etc. : a sympathetic feeling
: a feeling of support f


Empathy is when you are physically affected by the pain of others. It is deeper than sympathy and less common. Men are entirely capable of empathy, it is what makes them protectors because they feel the pain of their families intensely.

Well, good men, that is.

Peter1469
03-22-2014, 02:56 PM
Sounds like a psychology conference joke.

Empathy is what stops a child from inflicting pain or injury on his/her younger sibling or setting the family cat on fire. It is putting yourself into the shoes of the other. Sympathy is acknowledging the emotional hardships of others and providing comfort and assurance. They differ in emotional meaning.

Not to link two threads, but empathy was certainly a problem in the last Walking Dead episode! (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/22484-The-Walking-Dead) :shocked:

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 03:09 PM
...I thought you were smarter then you obviously are...my apologies...

"Empathy is what stops a child from inflicting pain or injury on his/her younger sibling or setting the family cat on fire."

...empathy means you literally feel the pain someone else feels so in this instance you are lighting the child on fire to show him what it feels like to be on fire, follow me?...that's not a good thing for an adult to do to a child...sympathy would be, "I've never been lit on fire, but I'd imagine it hurts, don't do it"...your grasp of ideas is not very good...
I expected that "putting yourself into the shoes of another" was sufficient explanation for most people to grasp the concept, but if it makes you feel better to insult me - go right ahead. As you have stated, you are empathically challenged, so I offer my sympathies for your disabled state.

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 03:36 PM
I expected that "putting yourself into the shoes of another" was sufficient explanation for most people to grasp the concept, but if it makes you feel better to insult me - go right ahead. As you have stated, you are empathically challenged, so I offer my sympathies for your disabled state.

I don't see how Kabuki Joe could insult you as his opinion would have to first be respectable. This is a man who thought it was great fun to have beasts rip each other to shreds for money.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 04:05 PM
I expected that "putting yourself into the shoes of another" was sufficient explanation for most people to grasp the concept, but if it makes you feel better to insult me - go right ahead. As you have stated, you are empathically challenged, so I offer my sympathies for your disabled state.


...like lighting a kid on fire to show them what it feels like?!?!?...that's empathy...sympathy is what a husband has for his pregnant wife, is he pregnant?...no, but he FEELS bad for her...does this click at all?!?!?...

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 04:09 PM
...like lighting a kid on fire to show them what it feels like?!?!?...that's empathy...sympathy is what a husband has for his pregnant wife, is he pregnant?...no, but he FEELS bad for her...does this click at all?!?!?...


Comparison chart</> Embed this chart (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Empathy_vs_Sympathy#)


Empathy
Sympathy


Definition
Understanding what others are feeling because you have experienced it yourself or can put yourself in their shoes.
Acknowledging another person's emotional hardships and providing comfort and assurance.


Example
I know it's not easy to lose weight because I have faced the same problems myself.
When people try to make changes like this (e.g. lose (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Loose_vs_Lose) some weight) at first it seems difficult.


Relationship
Personal
Friends, family and community ( the experience of others) .


Nursing context
Relating with your patient because you have been in a similar situation or experience
Comforting your patient or their family


Scope
Personal, It can be one to many in some circumstances
From either one to another person or one to many (or one to a group).



http://static.diffen.com/uploadz/7/7b/Empathy-1.jpg


Empathy^

http://static.diffen.com/uploadz/5/58/Sympathy-2.jpg


Sympathy^^

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Empathy_vs_Sympathy


This is for everyone who isn't such a thin-skinned crybaby that they need to hide behind the Ignore button. I realize I'm not helping to educate Kabuki Joe because he's ineducable, but others might be interested.

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 04:20 PM
...like lighting a kid on fire to show them what it feels like?!?!?...that's empathy...sympathy is what a husband has for his pregnant wife, is he pregnant?...no, but he FEELS bad for her...does this click at all?!?!?...
I'm certain now that you misunderstood what I was saying. Having empathy is what prevents someone from lighting another on fire. That is what putting yourself into another's shoes means. If we are discussing a child, for example, who already understands that hot burns, and if he or she has empathy, that child would not do something to another that would burn them and cause pain. He or she would stand in the other's shoes and be capable of understanding the pain it would cause him or herself. A child without empathy might possibly do so such a thing and feel nothing. I said nothing about lighting a child on fire to demonstrate what it feels like. Please reread my post.

Codename Section
03-22-2014, 04:21 PM
I'm certain now that you misunderstood what I was saying. Having empathy is what prevents someone from lighting another on fire. That is what putting yourself into another's shoes means. If we are discussing a child, for example, who already understands that hot burns, and if he or she has empathy, that child would not do something to another that would burn them and cause pain. He or she would stand in the other's shoes and be capable of understanding the pain it would cause him or herself. A child without empathy might possibly do so such a thing and feel nothing. I said nothing about lighting a child on fire to demonstrate what it feels like. Please reread my post.
Dr. Who

don't let yourself be trolled. Kabuki Joe can't be that stupid so it's got to be a troll.

Peter1469
03-22-2014, 04:23 PM
@Dr. Who (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=612)

don't let yourself be trolled. Kabuki Joe can't be that stupid so it's got to be a troll.

I actually lean towards the stupid. But I am willing to wait for more signs of life.

The Sage of Main Street
03-22-2014, 04:27 PM
...Aussie chics love American men because they can push them around...

American men like to get pushed around, but I don't consider that manly. The bitch's bark was worse than the bite of tail I got.

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 04:29 PM
@Dr. Who (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=612)

don't let yourself be trolled. Kabuki Joe can't be that stupid so it's got to be a troll.

Being an empathic person, I try to allow the benefit of the doubt. If he legitimately misunderstood my post, then he should now understand. If not...

The Sage of Main Street
03-22-2014, 04:29 PM
...gender vs biological sex...men don't need to be male and women don't need to be female...look at the link in my signature...it's anthropology...

The latest PC fad. That link should sink.

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 05:03 PM
...I already know the answer but I'll play along anyway, so you don't support legislation for gay rights?...animal rights?...and prison inmate civil rights?...yes or no please...

You obviously don't understand the difference between equal or human rights and "special rights". I don't like special rights. It's discriminatory. Affirmative Action is a special right. Legislation saying you can't fire a person because they are gay or white is special rights. Legislation saying you have to allow someone into your private business is special rights. OTOH, granting the same 1138 Federal rights and benefits given to straight married couples to gay couples is not special rights. It's equal rights.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 05:04 PM
I'm certain now that you misunderstood what I was saying. Having empathy is what prevents someone from lighting another on fire. That is what putting yourself into another's shoes means. If we are discussing a child, for example, who already understands that hot burns, and if he or she has empathy, that child would not do something to another that would burn them and cause pain. He or she would stand in the other's shoes and be capable of understanding the pain it would cause him or herself. A child without empathy might possibly do so such a thing and feel nothing. I said nothing about lighting a child on fire to demonstrate what it feels like. Please reread my post.


...if you have walked in someone else's shoes you have empathy for/with them, if you haven't you MIGHT have sympathy for them, depending on how good or how bad the shoes are...you can't have empathy unless you have personally experienced what they are going through, meaning you have been lit on fire, otherwise it's sympathy...that's why it's called "sympathy pains" and not "empathy pains"...a woman that has gone through pregnancy and given birth can "empathize" with a woman going through it...a man can't, but he can "sympathize" with her...this is not rocket science...

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 05:04 PM
I actually lean towards the stupid. But I am willing to wait for more signs of life.


...that's alright Peter, sometimes you make my head hurt... :)

Peter1469
03-22-2014, 05:18 PM
...that's alright Peter, sometimes you make my head hurt... :)

I do too. :smiley:

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 05:21 PM
...if you have walked in someone else's shoes you have empathy for/with them, if you haven't you MIGHT have sympathy for them, depending on how good or how bad the shoes are...you can't have empathy unless you have personally experienced what they are going through, meaning you have been lit on fire, otherwise it's sympathy...that's why it's called "sympathy pains" and not "empathy pains"...a woman that has gone through pregnancy and given birth can "empathize" with a woman going through it...a man can't, but he can "sympathize" with her...this is not rocket science... If your father is dying of cancer in a most painful way, and you can see that he is in pain, and in your life you have experienced pain, then you only have to consider the level of pain and you can empathize with his agony. Empathy is more emotional than sympathy. One takes place in your "heart" and the other in your brain. If you are empathic about your father's pain, you will feel it on a different level than sympathy. It will reach you at your core and you will feel his pain and it will be difficult for you to bear his suffering. If you have never experienced empathy, you might not understand it. Parents can have so much empathy for their children, that when the child hurts itself, the parent feels pain. If you have never experienced it, it's like explaining color to a blind person. Empathy means that you also feel the joy of another, like it is your own. It has so much more dimension than sympathy.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 05:28 PM
If your father is dying of cancer in a most painful way, and you can see that he is in pain, and in your life you have experienced pain, then you only have to consider the level of pain and you can empathize with his agony. Empathy is more emotional than sympathy. One takes place in your "heart" and the other in your brain. If you are empathic about your father's pain, you will feel it on a different level than sympathy. It will reach you at your core and you will feel his pain and it will be difficult for you to bear his suffering. If you have never experienced empathy, you might not understand it. Parents can have so much empathy for their children, that when the child hurts itself, the parent feels pain. If you have never experienced it, it's like explaining color to a blind person. Empathy means that you also feel the joy of another, like it is your own. It has so much more dimension than sympathy.


...I can't empathize with him because I haven't personally experienced cancer, but I can sympathize with him by watching what he's going through...but watching is not the same as experiencing...

Peter1469
03-22-2014, 05:36 PM
...I can't empathize with him because I haven't personally experienced cancer, but I can sympathize with him by watching what he's going through...but watching is not the same as experiencing...

It can be worse.

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 05:42 PM
...I can't empathize with him because I haven't personally experienced cancer, but I can sympathize with him by watching what he's going through...but watching is not the same as experiencing...If you have ever experienced terrible pain, you can empathize. Cancer is just a word. The symptoms of dying of cancer is pain. You know what pain is, do you not? You know what it is to suffer, do you not? Can you not extrapolate in your own mind what that person is feeling?

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 05:44 PM
It can be worse.Yes because on top of the empathy is the frustration that you can do nothing to make it stop.

Alyosha
03-22-2014, 05:44 PM
Codename is wrong. He is that stupid. The ability to create appropriate analogies and understand them is a key sign of intelligence and used by almost every credible testing group.

Just sayin'.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 06:07 PM
If you have ever experienced terrible pain, you can empathize. Cancer is just a word. The symptoms of dying of cancer is pain. You know what pain is, do you not? You know what it is to suffer, do you not? Can you not extrapolate in your own mind what that person is feeling?


...you are like my mom...we went over this with other mental health professionals like herself and she flat out refused to believe what I was saying...she went from therapist to therapist to therapist looking for anyone to take her side, which is also your side...if you could see the looks on people's faces as she asked them the question, got the answer and then went to the next person she could find and go through the whole thing again...one of her closest friends watched her ask the person next to her after she asked him...he looked at me and asked why ask a question when you don't like the answer...after 30 mins she gave up and said, "I guess I'll need to reevaluate my ideas on this topic"...this is the fourth of fifth time we had that discussion and she still thinks there was a bunch of incorrect people at her retirement party...

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 06:08 PM
It can be worse.


...I watched my grandfather go through it...it's not pretty but I still don't know what it's like...I only watched him go through it...

donttread
03-22-2014, 06:15 PM
Sexism has a couple of important things in common with racism
1) It's a two way street which is only considered offensive in one direction
2) While not erradicated it's current presence is exaggerated for the personal gain of those who make money off writing about it

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 06:18 PM
...you are like my mom...we went over this with other mental health professionals like herself and she flat out refused to believe what I was saying...she went from therapist to therapist to therapist looking for anyone to take her side, which is also your side...if you could see the looks on people's faces as she asked them the question, got the answer and then went to the next person she could find and go through the whole thing again...one of her closest friends watched her ask the person next to her after she asked him...he looked at me and asked why ask a question when you don't like the answer...after 30 mins she gave up and said, "I guess I'll need to reevaluate my ideas on this topic"...this is the fourth of fifth time we had that discussion and she still thinks there was a bunch of incorrect people at her retirement party...

I feel for your mother, but I guess you cannot explain color to the blind.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 06:21 PM
I feel for your mother, but I guess you cannot explain color to the blind.


...in all the years I've known her, 71 to be exact, this is the only time she's been wrong...she's an exceptional person...even a little better then that, but I'm biased...

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 06:27 PM
...in all the years I've known her, 71 to be exact, this is the only time she's been wrong...she's an exceptional person...even a little better then that, but I'm biased...I imagine she's a great lady and don't be so sure that she is wrong. I offer the Black Swan Theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 06:35 PM
I imagine she's a great lady and don't be so sure that she is wrong. I offer the Black Swan Theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory


...what's that saying, "I thought I was wrong once, but I was only mistaken"...she's been a huge influence on me, she's just a lot more....sympathetic...then I am...it's her profession and her passion and she has never steered me wrong...yeah, she's pretty awesome...

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 06:39 PM
...what's that saying, "I thought I was wrong once, but I was only mistaken"...she's been a huge influence on me, she's just a lot more....sympathetic...then I am...it's her profession and her passion and she has never steered me wrong...yeah, she's pretty awesome...

What is/was your mother's profession, if I may ask?

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 06:50 PM
What is/was your mother's profession, if I may ask?


...she's a therapist...she has a masters in psychology and a handful of licenses...she does family stuff on her own but she loves working with problem kids...she got some presidential award for a program she did with a police dept in California a few years ago...she does it a little different then most people, she brings the family into therapy with the kids and works with these kids and their families together because the parents have a hand in the way these kids turn out...she's sharp and she's been doing it for 40 years or so...I'm hoping she does something in Oregon, they are just starting to get serious about gangs up here, which is her specialty...

Dr. Who
03-22-2014, 06:54 PM
...she's a therapist...she has a masters in psychology and a handful of licenses...she does family stuff on her own but she loves working with problem kids...she got some presidential award for a program she did with a police dept in California a few years ago...she does it a little different then most people, she brings the family into therapy with the kids and works with these kids and their families together because the parents have a hand in the way these kids turn out...she's sharp and she's been doing it for 40 years or so...I'm hoping she does something in Oregon, they are just starting to get serious about gangs up here, which is her specialty... An impressive bio - you must be very proud of her.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 07:03 PM
An impressive bio - you must be very proud of her.

...yes I am...

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 07:58 PM
Holy shit. I've seen all of this from 90% or more of the Liberals I have encountered in my lifetime. I feel totally enlightened.

Really? 'Cause I've seen the exact opposite from 90% or more of the liberals I have encountered in my lifetime. We can't both be right, so maybe we should put the ultra-partisan anecdotes to rest. We're both smarter than that.

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 08:15 PM
Sexism has a couple of important things in common with racism
1) It's a two way street which is only considered offensive in one direction
2) While not erradicated it's current presence is exaggerated for the personal gain of those who make money off writing about it

While that viewpoint can be correct, it's not completely correct nor correct all the time. What it does show is that by allowing either racism or sexism to be institutionalized, such as quotas, it furthers racism and/or sexism in society.

Racism will exist in America for as long as Affirmative Action and other institutionalized forms of racism are allowed to exist.

Cthulhu
03-22-2014, 08:27 PM
While that viewpoint can be correct, it's not completely correct nor correct all the time. What it does show is that by allowing either racism or sexism to be institutionalized, such as quotas, it furthers racism and/or sexism in society.

Racism will exist in America for as long as Affirmative Action and other institutionalized forms of racism are allowed to exist.

Bigotry will always exist as long as there are different opinions, races, religions, sports teams etc. People like an "us" us to satisfy the ego, and a "them" to hate on.

It is what it is.

Ravi
03-22-2014, 08:35 PM
You're not sorry about anything. And "hurt feelings" are a liberal excuse for a politically incorrect hate speech crime.
No I truly believe I hurt your feelings and I am sorry.

Ravi
03-22-2014, 08:38 PM
...you are like my mom...we went over this with other mental health professionals like herself and she flat out refused to believe what I was saying...she went from therapist to therapist to therapist looking for anyone to take her side, which is also your side...if you could see the looks on people's faces as she asked them the question, got the answer and then went to the next person she could find and go through the whole thing again...one of her closest friends watched her ask the person next to her after she asked him...he looked at me and asked why ask a question when you don't like the answer...after 30 mins she gave up and said, "I guess I'll need to reevaluate my ideas on this topic"...this is the fourth of fifth time we had that discussion and she still thinks there was a bunch of incorrect people at her retirement party...
What was her question?

Ravi
03-22-2014, 08:41 PM
I apologize to all men that think equality means they are lesser beings and I am thankful that there aren't too many of them. This thread is a total wtf?

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 08:46 PM
Bigotry will always exist as long as there are different opinions, races, religions, sports teams etc. People like an "us" us to satisfy the ego, and a "them" to hate on.

It is what it is.

True, but that's people. I'm talking about institutionalized racism and sexism. In other words, government.

Isn't that what exactly what those who like to label some as "statists" mean by government?

Cthulhu
03-22-2014, 08:55 PM
True, but that's people. I'm talking about institutionalized racism and sexism. In other words, government.

Isn't that what exactly what those who like to label some as "statists" mean by government?

In order to continue this conversation, I require you to post a picture of a unicorn.
Max Rockatansky

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 09:14 PM
In order to continue this conversation, I require you to post a picture of a unicorn.
@Max Rockatansky (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=575)
Done, Cthulhu. Now please post something relevant and intelligent.

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs25/300W/i/2008/141/a/8/Happy_unicorn_by_kangel.jpg

Cthulhu
03-22-2014, 09:21 PM
Done, @Cthulhu (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=872). Now please post something relevant and intelligent.

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs25/300W/i/2008/141/a/8/Happy_unicorn_by_kangel.jpg

You lose points for tardiness. Regardless, payment accepted.

Kabuki Joe
03-22-2014, 09:23 PM
What was her question?


...there's a page of this back and forth and I know you are smart enough to figure it out...

Cthulhu
03-22-2014, 09:24 PM
True, but that's people. I'm talking about institutionalized racism and sexism. In other words, government.

Frankly quite worthless. The government is composed of people - all of whom have differences in some way. Thus disbanding government based racism or any sort of bigotry remains in the realm of unicorns. Imaginary and a waste of time to pursue.

It would be more productive to disband government than racism. Seeing as how the government is the most racist organization known to man.



Isn't that what exactly what those who like to label some as "statists" mean by government?

I call avian creatures that quack ducks too, provided they fit the profile.

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 10:15 PM
You lose points for tardiness. Regardless, payment accepted.
Fashionably late is worth the point deduction.

Cthulhu
03-22-2014, 10:17 PM
Fashionably late is worth the point deduction.

But there were much better pictures of unicorns out there... A solid C for effort I guess.

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 10:21 PM
Frankly quite worthless. The government is composed of people - all of whom have differences in some way. Thus disbanding government based racism or any sort of bigotry remains in the realm of unicorns. Imaginary and a waste of time to pursue.

It would be more productive to disband government than racism. Seeing as how the government is the most racist organization known to man.

Disagreed. Mankind can be very petty, but also very noble. The intent of our founding fathers was to create a government that worked for the people instead of against them. The Second Amendment was created as insure to that end.

If our government has gone off track, and the polls say many people believe it has, than that is primarily our fault. We, the People.

Too many people think of themselves as children and government as the parent. That's assbackwards. We, the People are the parent and the government is our child. If we neglect it and treat it like a latchkey kid, should we really be surprised when it turns into a punk-assed teenager?

Likewise, saying the only solution to a house in disrepair is to burn the damn thing down is reckless. There is still a good foundation and the roof is good even if there is a leak or two. It needs some TLC, not a wrecking ball.

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 10:21 PM
But there were much better pictures of unicorns out there... A solid C for effort I guess.

True, but I liked that one because it was the funniest.

Cthulhu
03-22-2014, 10:28 PM
Disagreed. Mankind can be very petty, but also very noble. The intent of our founding fathers was to create a government that worked for the people instead of against them. The Second Amendment was created as insure to that end.

If our government has gone off track, and the polls say many people believe it has, than that is primarily our fault. We, the People.

And they are correct. But I am sick of shouldering moral responsibility for anothers amoral actions. Which is why individual contracts are superior.



Too many people think of themselves as children and government as the parent. That's assbackwards. We, the People are the parent and the government is our child. If we neglect it and treat it like a latchkey kid, should we really be surprised when it turns into a punk-assed teenager?

Figuratively speaking, I support and condone abortion in this sense. Why create something that has a historical pattern of abusing its creators?

Reading Frankenstein was enough to convince me of that.



Likewise, saying the only solution to a house in disrepair is to burn the damn thing down is reckless. There is still a good foundation and the roof is good even if there is a leak or two. It needs some TLC, not a wrecking ball.

Depends on how much you like the house. Sometimes desire is the main instigator, not practicality.

In the case of good old 'merica, it is still pretty damn good here. But, it is rapidly getting worse. We approach the Rubicon swiftly.

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 10:32 PM
And they are correct. But I am sick of shouldering moral responsibility for anothers amoral actions. Which is why individual contracts are superior.
Democracies have that downside whether it's a club meeting, an HOA, a State election or a national issue.

The upside is that it's a better solution to resolving disputes than firefights, raids and fratricide.

One thing that is remarkable about our nation is the consistent exchange of power every four or so years. This picture is remarkable in several ways in there regard:
http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Health/ap_all_presidents_kb_130425_wmain.jpg

Cthulhu
03-22-2014, 10:40 PM
Democracies have that downside whether it's a club meeting, an HOA, a State election or a national issue.

The upside is that it's a better solution to resolving disputes than firefights, raids and fratricide.

Because industrial scale slaughter and warfare is so much better right? As long as we get to be proud of the nation? Not exactly a compelling argument.



One thing that is remarkable about our nation is the consistent exchange of power every four or so years. This picture is remarkable in several ways in there regard:
http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Health/ap_all_presidents_kb_130425_wmain.jpg


If they were really opponents, they wouldn't be smiling when in each other's presence. What I see is a series of employees who work for puppetmaster's. The power structure of the Mexican drug cartels is more genuine than these cretins.

Power structure never really changes. The only guy worth anything in the photo is wearing a hat with some bling on it.

Codename Section
03-22-2014, 10:44 PM
Democracies have that downside whether it's a club meeting, an HOA, a State election or a national issue.

The upside is that it's a better solution to resolving disputes than firefights, raids and fratricide.

One thing that is remarkable about our nation is the consistent exchange of power every four or so years. This picture is remarkable in several ways in there regard:
http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Health/ap_all_presidents_kb_130425_wmain.jpg


That is an illusion of change of power. They're all good friends. The animosity and party differences is bullshit. They should wear corporate patches, to show who sponsors each election.

Our system is a joke and its on everyone who believes they are voting for change.

Max Rockatansky
03-22-2014, 10:53 PM
That is an illusion of change of power. They're all good friends. The animosity and party differences is bullshit. They should wear corporate patches, to show who sponsors each election.

Our system is a joke and its on everyone who believes they are voting for change.The Democrats and Republicans must be excellent actors because anyone watching thinks they really disagree with each other.

The Xl
03-22-2014, 10:54 PM
The Democrats and Republicans must be excellent actors because anyone watching thinks they really disagree with each other.

All they do is act, honestly, with the exception of a very few decent politicians.

They all effectively do the same shit.

Green Arrow
03-22-2014, 10:58 PM
The Democrats and Republicans must be excellent actors because anyone watching thinks they really disagree with each other.

And anyone who actually pays attention to their votes will notice that it's all a smoke screen.

The Xl
03-22-2014, 11:00 PM
And anyone who actually pays attention to their votes will notice that it's all a smoke screen.

Pretty much this. When they need to take freedom away, they always band together. Other than that, they play the game.

Cthulhu
03-22-2014, 11:04 PM
Pretty much this. When they need to take freedom away, they always band together. Other than that, they play the game.

Marching in sync to the drum beat of evil.

pjohns
03-23-2014, 12:38 AM
Yeah, everyone needs a demon to exercise.

Or a demon to exorcise, either. (Although exercising one might be fun, too.)

Max Rockatansky
03-23-2014, 07:03 AM
And anyone who actually pays attention to their votes will notice that it's all a smoke screen.

It's certainly overly dramatic. Theater, but not a conspiracy to defraud the public where all of the actors go backstage and receive their lines from the Zionist Cabal or whomever the fuck conspiracy theorists believe is "really" in charge.

Green Arrow
03-23-2014, 07:18 AM
It's certainly overly dramatic. Theater, but not a conspiracy to defraud the public where all of the actors go backstage and receive their lines from the Zionist Cabal or whomever the fuck conspiracy theorists believe is "really" in charge.

And that was all said where, exactly?

Max Rockatansky
03-23-2014, 07:25 AM
And that was all said where, exactly?

Isn't the implication when people claim "it's all a smoke screen"? What did you mean by that statement?

Green Arrow
03-23-2014, 07:30 AM
Isn't the implication when people claim "it's all a smoke screen"? What did you mean by that statement?

I mean that our politicians pretend to be at odds when in reality, they work together to expand their own power and pad their own pockets.

Max Rockatansky
03-23-2014, 07:38 AM
I mean that our politicians pretend to be at odds when in reality, they work together to expand their own power and pad their own pockets.

In a conspiracy or simple recognition that the vast majority of people are seeking to improve their lot?

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/ron-paul-net-worth/

Ron Paul is a United States Congressman and current presidential candidate for the 2012 election with a net worth of $4.9 Million. Originally from Pittsburgh, he served as a flight surgeon in the United States Air Force. He subsequently started his own private practice, trained in obstetrics and gynecology. Starting in the early 1970′s he developed a large interest in politics, and started to run for several offices. He won a special election to a vacant seat in the US Congress in 1976, and continued to move up the ranks.

Green Arrow
03-23-2014, 07:42 AM
In a conspiracy or simple recognition that the vast majority of people are seeking to improve their lot?

It doesn't qualify as a conspiracy, because it's not secret. Anybody who looks at their voting records (which are public record) will see what's up. Problem is, most people don't and only care about the touchy-feely "hope and change" side of politics. In other words, all they care about is rhetoric.


http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/ron-paul-net-worth/

What's the relevance of this?

Max Rockatansky
03-23-2014, 08:13 AM
Anybody who looks at their voting records (which are public record) will see what's up.Please tell me what you think is "up".

What's the relevance of this?It shows that even the Libertarian hero is interested in self-improvement and advancement.

Green Arrow
03-23-2014, 08:22 AM
Please tell me what you think is "up".

I already did. Growing government and expanding power.


It shows that even the Libertarian hero is interested in self-improvement and advancement.

Right, but how is that relevant? Nobody in this thread has condemned "self-improvement and advancement."

Kabuki Joe
03-23-2014, 08:27 AM
Marching in sync to the drum beat of evil.


...while I don't really like it it's not evil...they are doing to us what we do to our children...that's what this is all about, people thinking they are smarter then you and they know what's best...it's not evil...

Max Rockatansky
03-23-2014, 08:38 AM
I already did. Growing government and expanding power.It's a conspiracy theory to think that there is a plot to grow government for it's own sake. People seek to improve their position and advance what they think is right. Military people seek to improve the military regardless if it is a general seeking to improve the entire force or a Corporal seeking to improve a fire team. This means they want more money aka the best equipment and training for those under their charge. Same goes for administrators and doctors in the Dept. of Health and all other "government" departments.

In aggregate, it grows government, but it's not like a secret plot to throw up a smoke screen and grow government to take away our freedom. It's more like building a termite hill. There is no overall plan; it just grows.

That's why American voters must stay engaged to guide that growth. Part of the problem is that we each have things we support and things we do not. You are anti-military, at least past a Beach/Border Self-Defense Force. I favor limitations on entitlements, but I also understand that our nation benefits from a healthy, educated and gainfully employed citizenry. It's the aggregate of those who vote (and a result of those who do not vote) that results in our present government. Not a plot. Certainly not a conspiracy.


Right, but how is that relevant? Nobody in this thread has condemned "self-improvement and advancement."You do not see the similarity between individuals in government positions seeking "self-improvement and advancement" themselves and the result that has on government.

Looking at the entire US government is like counting stars; the scale can become incomprehensible. Look at smaller groups for a deeper understanding. Look at your local HOA, town council or PTA. Study the dynamics involved and try to understand why things happen and why things are the way they are. Armed with that knowledge, it makes it easier to understand the human dynamics of city, state and federal government.

Dr. Strangelove
03-23-2014, 11:32 AM
I also heard she married some rich guy.

Nice role model for all those single mothers out there on government assistance who took her advice.

You want to see Fem-Nazis in action, go to ultra liberal Santa Cruz, CA to the University.

All the students wear gender neutral Guatamalan pants and Panchos, and you see guys and gals making out openly on campus! I went to a dance there once, to pick up girls, and Whoa! I didn't see any guys dancing with girls, it was all same sex dancing and necking, along with hallucinogenic drug taking.

I was seeing an associate porfessor gal there, who lived on campus, who was a Wicca witch, devout Marxist, and majored in Womens Studies. She was a meth head, made a living with phony accidents in stores, and her apartment was a den of filth and roaches. I stayed there about two weeks, and had to bail out...it was too much!

A radical group of Fem-Nazis was going around to all the magazine racks in town, and tossing out all the Men's magazines, and poring pigs blood on them, and shutting down the nude beaches around, claiming they were infested with child molesters and freaks.

Having gone out with a lot of women back then(the 70's & 80's, I can guarantee you at least 1/2 of them were Bi-sexuals, both sexes. Lots of aging hippie women there with the braided arm pits, and spaced out eyes..."Bliss Ninnies", we used to call them. The really cute young chicks there were "nose whores", who were only out to score blow, and get a free dinner out of you.

From 1971-74, the S.C. area was the "mass murder capital" of the world, with acid fueled crazies like Kemper, Mullins, and Frazier killing dozens after Reagan shut down the nut houses.

The Sage of Main Street
03-23-2014, 01:21 PM
...if you have walked in someone else's shoes you have empathy for/with them, if you haven't you MIGHT have sympathy for them, depending on how good or how bad the shoes are...you can't have empathy unless you have personally experienced what they are going through, meaning you have been lit on fire, otherwise it's sympathy...that's why it's called "sympathy pains" and not "empathy pains"...a woman that has gone through pregnancy and given birth can "empathize" with a woman going through it...a man can't, but he can "sympathize" with her...this is not rocket science...

"Empathy" is how someone with a speech defect pronounces embassy.

The Sage of Main Street
03-23-2014, 01:33 PM
That is an illusion of change of power. They're all good friends. The animosity and party differences is bullshit. They should wear corporate patches, to show who sponsors each election.

Our system is a joke and it's on everyone who believes they are voting for change.

Our 18th Century anti-democratic Constitution, written behind closed doors, is a joke. So if you are judging the system for not following the Constitution, you will be confused.

The Sage of Main Street
03-23-2014, 01:42 PM
You want to see Fem-Nazis in action, go to ultra liberal Santa Cruz, CA to the University.

All the students wear gender neutral Guatamalan pants and Panchos, and you see guys and gals making out openly on campus! I went to a dance there once, to pick up girls, and Whoa! I didn't see any guys dancing with girls, it was all same sex dancing and necking, along with hallucinogenic drug taking.

I was seeing an associate porfessor gal there, who lived on campus, who was a Wicca witch, devout Marxist, and majored in Womens Studies. She was a meth head, made a living with phony accidents in stores, and her apartment was a den of filth and roaches. I stayed there about two weeks, and had to bail out...it was too much!

A radical group of Fem-Nazis was going around to all the magazine racks in town, and tossing out all the Men's magazines, and poring pigs blood on them, and shutting down the nude beaches around, claiming they were infested with child molesters and freaks.

Having gone out with a lot of women back then(the 70's & 80's, I can guarantee you at least 1/2 of them were Bi-sexuals, both sexes. Lots of aging hippie women there with the braided arm pits, and spaced out eyes..."Bliss Ninnies", we used to call them. The really cute young chicks there were "nose whores", who were only out to score blow, and get a free dinner out of you.

From 1971-74, the S.C. area was the "mass murder capital" of the world, with acid fueled crazies like Kemper, Mullins, and Frazier killing dozens after Reagan shut down the nut houses.

Such a concentration of mutant misfits with a predatory Death Wish can only be found at a university. In college, a student lives like a child, working without pay. So he winds up with the mind of a child and behaves like a child. That damage is permanent.

Peter1469
03-23-2014, 01:46 PM
Our 18th Century anti-democratic Constitution, written behind closed doors, is a joke. So if you are judging the system for not following the Constitution, you will be confused.

Our Constitution created a Republic, not a democracy. A democracy is very dangerous with no protections for minority rights.

Green Arrow
03-23-2014, 06:54 PM
It's a conspiracy theory to think that there is a plot to grow government for it's own sake. People seek to improve their position and advance what they think is right. Military people seek to improve the military regardless if it is a general seeking to improve the entire force or a Corporal seeking to improve a fire team. This means they want more money aka the best equipment and training for those under their charge. Same goes for administrators and doctors in the Dept. of Health and all other "government" departments.

In aggregate, it grows government, but it's not like a secret plot to throw up a smoke screen and grow government to take away our freedom. It's more like building a termite hill. There is no overall plan; it just grows.

That's why American voters must stay engaged to guide that growth. Part of the problem is that we each have things we support and things we do not. You are anti-military, at least past a Beach/Border Self-Defense Force. I favor limitations on entitlements, but I also understand that our nation benefits from a healthy, educated and gainfully employed citizenry. It's the aggregate of those who vote (and a result of those who do not vote) that results in our present government. Not a plot. Certainly not a conspiracy.

Trying to have discussions with you can be tedious sometimes. I specifically said it was not a conspiracy, so what do you do? Lecture me about how it's not a conspiracy.


You do not see the similarity between individuals in government positions seeking "self-improvement and advancement" themselves and the result that has on government.

Looking at the entire US government is like counting stars; the scale can become incomprehensible. Look at smaller groups for a deeper understanding. Look at your local HOA, town council or PTA. Study the dynamics involved and try to understand why things happen and why things are the way they are. Armed with that knowledge, it makes it easier to understand the human dynamics of city, state and federal government.

The difference is that Dr. Paul the Elder has not enriched himself at the cost of anyone's freedom, and in the business world he has more than given back to his consumers.

Max Rockatansky
03-23-2014, 07:11 PM
Trying to have discussions with you can be tedious sometimes.

Then don't worry about it.

Green Arrow
03-23-2014, 07:20 PM
Then don't worry about it.

I just don't understand why you're so against honest discussion. Lots of us around here have honest discussions all the time, but you're one of the few who can't seem to take it.

Max Rockatansky
03-23-2014, 07:24 PM
I just don't understand why you're so against honest discussion.

I'm not, but when you make statements like that, why should I bother discussing anything with you? This is just one of many times you made such accusations. It's like a child's game with you. Sorry, dude, but I'm not playing.

Ransom
03-24-2014, 07:52 AM
I just don't understand why you're so against honest discussion. Lots of us around here have honest discussions all the time, but you're one of the few who can't seem to take it.

Process, procedure, tactic....your discussions anything but content. Rarely, if ever.

So, what do you think is happening to our males today Arrow? Why the poor socioeconomic nunbers, why do we trail women in school performance, etc?:undecided:

Kabuki Joe
03-24-2014, 08:31 AM
Process, procedure, tactic....your discussions anything but content. Rarely, if ever.

So, what do you think is happening to our males today Arrow? Why the poor socioeconomic nunbers, why do we trail women in school performance, etc?:undecided:


...I've got to see this answer...

The Sage of Main Street
03-24-2014, 09:02 AM
Our Constitution created a Republic, not a democracy. A democracy is very dangerous with no protections for minority rights.

Your secular Bible, the Constitution, protects the minority, the 1%, that turns loose all the other pet attack-dog minorities on the majority.

Peter1469
03-24-2014, 09:06 AM
Your secular Bible, the Constitution, protects the minority, the 1%, that turns loose all the other pet attack-dog minorities on the majority.

Well, you are going to take care of that for us, right?

The Sage of Main Street
03-24-2014, 09:13 AM
...I've got to see this answer... Referring to real life rather than educationists' propaganda about their own racket, women are more suitable to college life because they don't need an income and a car to get dates. Male students are losers in the dating game. The female students will cause a healthy male to get frustrated and drop out because they primarily date guys with jobs or rich students living on a fat allowance.

Green Arrow
03-24-2014, 09:28 AM
So, what do you think is happening to our males today Arrow? Why the poor socioeconomic nunbers, why do we trail women in school performance, etc?:undecided:

A number of factors. Cultural attitudes, parental upbringing, and education are the big ones.

Ransom
03-24-2014, 09:28 AM
You want to see Fem-Nazis in action, go to ultra liberal Santa Cruz, CA to the University.

All the students wear gender neutral Guatamalan pants and Panchos, and you see guys and gals making out openly on campus! I went to a dance there once, to pick up girls, and Whoa! I didn't see any guys dancing with girls, it was all same sex dancing and necking, along with hallucinogenic drug taking.

I was seeing an associate porfessor gal there, who lived on campus, who was a Wicca witch, devout Marxist, and majored in Womens Studies. She was a meth head, made a living with phony accidents in stores, and her apartment was a den of filth and roaches. I stayed there about two weeks, and had to bail out...it was too much!

A den of roaches and filth...and yet you stayed two weeks? My my.


A radical group of Fem-Nazis was going around to all the magazine racks in town, and tossing out all the Men's magazines, and poring pigs blood on them, and shutting down the nude beaches around, claiming they were infested with child molesters and freaks.

That's the Leftist agenda, not the radicals.


Having gone out with a lot of women back then(the 70's & 80's, I can guarantee you at least 1/2 of them were Bi-sexuals, both sexes. Lots of aging hippie women there with the braided arm pits, and spaced out eyes..."Bliss Ninnies", we used to call them. The really cute young chicks there were "nose whores", who were only out to score blow, and get a free dinner out of you.

Braided armpits......scoring blow.......my......hanging with the intelligent crowd often, Dr?

I'm beginning to understand some of your posts in here. Self inflicted.

Alyosha
03-24-2014, 10:05 AM
I'm a sexist. I think women are better than men. I am not a "feminist" because I don't believe we're all the same. It is in our differences, that feminists wish to veil, that we prove ourselves the superior sex.

Feminism is in many cases shooting our sex in the foot for some temporary gain. Over the long haul, we'll lose the war because we lost the sacred concept of "mother".

Hopefully, I'll be dead by then.

Green Arrow
03-24-2014, 10:06 AM
I'm a sexist. I think women are better than men. I am not a "feminist" because I don't believe we're all the same. It is in our differences, that feminists wish to veil, that we prove ourselves the superior sex.

Feminism is in many cases shooting our sex in the foot for some temporary gain. Over the long haul, we'll lose the war because we lost the sacred concept of "mother".

Hopefully, I'll be dead by then.

I would agree that women are the superior sex.

Now, if someone could tell my wife I said that...:tongue:

texan
03-24-2014, 10:18 AM
I don't like feminists because they only react and support to liberal females. If its a conservative female they could care less. Just a heeping pile of politically driven hypocrites. The biggest farse was that chick over the birth control issue in the last election. Such a pile of caca.

Captain Obvious
03-24-2014, 10:32 AM
I'm a sexist. I think women are better than men. I am not a "feminist" because I don't believe we're all the same. It is in our differences, that feminists wish to veil, that we prove ourselves the superior sex.

Feminism is in many cases shooting our sex in the foot for some temporary gain. Over the long haul, we'll lose the war because we lost the sacred concept of "mother".

Hopefully, I'll be dead by then.

Well, you are biased.

Women are culturally evolving (collectively) but it's still early, you have a long way to go. All the while we are de-evolving, so while you're (collectively) moving forward, you're also moving backward. Look on the bright side, men are just moving backward.

Not your fault either, blame Darwin.

Kabuki Joe
03-24-2014, 10:56 AM
Referring to real life rather than educationists' propaganda about their own racket, women are more suitable to college life because they don't need an income and a car to get dates. Male students are losers in the dating game. The female students will cause a healthy male to get frustrated and drop out because they primarily date guys with jobs or rich students living on a fat allowance.


...LOLOLOLOL...damn you're good!!!!...which is why they say you are crazy...

Cthulhu
03-24-2014, 11:08 AM
I'm a sexist. I think women are better than men. I am not a "feminist" because I don't believe we're all the same. It is in our differences, that feminists wish to veil, that we prove ourselves the superior sex.

Feminism is in many cases shooting our sex in the foot for some temporary gain. Over the long haul, we'll lose the war because we lost the sacred concept of "mother".

Hopefully, I'll be dead by then.

Eh. I don't buy either sex being superior. Simply different and codependent on each other for continued existence. Both are of equal importance yet have vastly different capabilities and traits.

Philly Rabbit
03-24-2014, 11:19 AM
I apologize to all men that think equality means they are lesser beings and I am thankful that there aren't too many of them. This thread is a total wtf?

There's a major difference between equal rights between the sexes and gender neutralizing which is a form of politically correct insanity.
There's also a major difference between equality and power by empowering women by way of making men insignificant and removing their privacy rights and their freedom of association rights.

Cthulhu
03-24-2014, 11:24 AM
There's a major difference between equal rights between the sexes and gender neutralizing which is a form of politically correct insanity.
There's also a major difference between equality and power by empowering women by way of making men insignificant and removing their privacy rights and their freedom of association rights.

^^There is much win in this post.

texan
03-24-2014, 11:29 AM
Men pigs!

Too bad we run the damn place.