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Cigar
03-25-2014, 11:31 AM
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Obamacare enrollment could hit 7 million before the midterms; meanwhile, GOP still has no answer for beneficiaries :grin:


It’s a complete accident of legislative and administrative history that the fourth anniversary of the Affordable Care Act should fall the week before the end of the law’s first ever, six-month-long open-enrollment period. But it’s a great coincidence for those of us in the business of cutting through all the hyperbole that accompanies each ACA anniversary, because, for the first time since the law passed, there are real data, and real beneficiaries, to hold the spin up against.

And as I’ve been arguing for months now, the GOP’s position on the law can’t actually withstand on-the-ground realities.

Case in point: Terri Lynn Land — Michigan’s one-time Republican secretary of state, turned Senate candidate — held a first-ever conference call with reporters to trash the ACA on its fourth birthday. But confronted with the question of what happens to people with preexisting medical conditions if the GOP repeals the law (and thus eliminates the individual mandate) — Land’s press aide, Heather Swift, commandeered the call, and tried to take the whole thing off the record.

I wasn’t on the line, but Michigan Information and Research Service posted the audio here. (The call starts at 19:20 and the preexisting conditions question at 39:15.) I think the biggest tell of all is that Land doesn’t seem remotely prepared to address the real human consequences of repealing the law in any meaningful or substantive way. But almost as big is that her staff can’t either. The aide who leapt to Land’s defense made a glaring error after attempting to take the call off the record.


“I can follow up with you more on this with a little bit more policy research, but just off the record the characterization of this question is incorrect,” she said. “It’s not the individual mandate but it’s the guaranteed provision that prohibits the denial of coverage from preexisting conditions. The problem with Obamacare is that it allows people to wait until they’re very sick to purchase insurance, which creates significant and unknown risks to insurers and then the insurance companies would pass that cost on to consumers. So the way that Terri’s plan, and then this can be on the record, the way that Terri’s plan addresses preexisting conditions is continuous coverage and portability.”
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http://www.salon.com/2014/03/25/republicans_losing_it_over_new_obamacare_data_why_ their_position_is_collapsing/

Captain Obvious
03-25-2014, 11:33 AM
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Mainecoons
03-25-2014, 11:44 AM
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Cigar
03-25-2014, 11:45 AM
The Country is still waiting on that GOP Health Care Plan ... has anyone seen it? :laugh:

Captain Obvious
03-25-2014, 11:47 AM
The Country is still waiting on that GOP Health Care Plan ... has anyone seen it? :laugh:

Yeah, house and senate democrats saw many, many versions - or at least glimpsed them before they tucked tail and ran away.

Ask them.

Cigar
03-25-2014, 11:48 AM
Obama Co-Opts Tea Party Slogan For Obamacare Bumper Sticker


President Barack Obama's new Obamacare bumper sticker sure looks familiar.

Below is the pro-Obamacare bumper sticker unveiled (http://www.barackobama.com/news/free-dont-tread-obamacare-bumper-sticker/) and promoted at BarackObama.com, which is now run by the president's advocacy group, Organizing For Action.

http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/w_652/a2snlfbd0iq1amiy33hg.jpg

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obama-tea-party-slogan-obamacare


:smiley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::s miley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO:

Cigar
03-25-2014, 11:49 AM
Yeah, house and senate democrats saw many, many versions - or at least glimpsed them before they tucked tail and ran away.

Ask them.

What's The Plan? :laugh:

keymanjim
03-25-2014, 01:10 PM
Obama Co-Opts Tea Party Slogan For Obamacare Bumper Sticker


President Barack Obama's new Obamacare bumper sticker sure looks familiar.

Below is the pro-Obamacare bumper sticker unveiled (http://www.barackobama.com/news/free-dont-tread-obamacare-bumper-sticker/) and promoted at BarackObama.com, which is now run by the president's advocacy group, Organizing For Action.

http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/w_652/a2snlfbd0iq1amiy33hg.jpg

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obama-tea-party-slogan-obamacare


:smiley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::s miley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/keymanjim/obamacare-bumpersticker-135719447454_zps36745d05.jpeg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/keymanjim/media/obamacare-bumpersticker-135719447454_zps36745d05.jpeg.html)

zelmo1234
03-25-2014, 01:12 PM
The Country is still waiting on that GOP Health Care Plan ... has anyone seen it? :laugh:

You mean the onel that would actually insure more people and lower cost????

Must be you lost your copy from the last time I posted it??

Or did you just lose the argument already and have to resort to lies??

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/GOPHealthPlan_061709.pdf

Cigar
03-25-2014, 01:14 PM
You mean the onel that would actually insure more people and lower cost????

Must be you lost your copy from the last time I posted it??

Or did you just lose the argument already and have to resort to lies??

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/GOPHealthPlan_061709.pdf

VOTE ON IT ... or STFU :grin:

zelmo1234
03-25-2014, 01:16 PM
VOTE ON IT ... or STFU :grin:

Tell Dingy Harry man? it passed the house and Dingy Harry will not even bring it up because he would lose!

So your party is the one that does not want the vote so you STFU!

texan
03-25-2014, 03:25 PM
The Country is still waiting on that GOP Health Care Plan ... has anyone seen it? :laugh:

Why yes I have and like I have always said, the democrats have never had an original idea:

"In 2010, President Obama credited the right-leaning Heritage Foundation for coming up with the concept of state health insurance exchanges. And indeed they did. In fact, some of the work done by the think tank in the early part of the last decade was incorporated into the landmark Massachusetts health reform law enacted by then Gov. Mitt Romney in 2006. And as lawmakers in the House and Senate were tinkering with federal reform legislation, the idea of state insurance exchanges was a concept both parties seemed to favor." Says AISHealth......and about everywhere else you search.


This is whats known in sports as a facial Cigar, welcome to the party.

nathanbforrest45
03-25-2014, 03:31 PM
Well, its interesting that Cigar thinks the Democrats are all ga ga over Obamacare

http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/larry-sabato-elections-backlash-obamacare/2014/03/20/id/560837/

nathanbforrest45
03-25-2014, 03:33 PM
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And now we know where Baghdad Bob went after the war.

nathanbforrest45
03-25-2014, 03:37 PM
We don't want the Republicans to come up with a national health insurance plan. What we had before worked for a remarkable number of people. This clusterfuck we see now has, according to Baghdad Bob (AKA Cigar) signed up 7 million. According to Obama there were 40 million without health care so we only have 33 million more to go, except now we have more uninsured as companies drop their health plan due to cost.

texan
03-25-2014, 03:43 PM
Whats even more funny is it wasn't their idea and they admit it.

Now thats funny, facial! Also, I think the republicans idea was not for people to lose their HC, doctors and not to pay at rate that only the rich can afford. You know common sense don't ruin the middle class further any further plan?