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Paperback Writer
04-02-2014, 12:32 PM
Let's look at these "acts" (I'll reference Wiki since I know some people refuse to read anything but)

Some monologues include:


I Was Twelve, My Mother Slapped Me: a chorus describing many young women's and girls' first menstrual period.
My Angry Vagina, in which a woman humorously rants about injustices wrought against the vagina, such as tampons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampons), douches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche), and the tools used by OB/GYNs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstetrics_and_gynecology).
My Vagina Was My Village, a monologue compiled from the testimonies of Bosnian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnians) women subjected to rape camps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_camps).
The Little Coochie Snorcher That Could, in which a woman recalls memories of traumatic sexual experiences in her childhood and a self-described "positive healing" sexual experience in her adolescent years with an older woman. This particular skit has sparked outrage, numerous controversies and criticisms due to its content, among which the most famous is the Robert Swope controversy (see below). In the original version, she is 13, but later versions would change her age to 16. It also originally included the line, "If it was rape, it was a good rape." which was removed from later versions.
Reclaiming ****, a piece narrated by a woman who illustrates that the word "**** (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****)" itself is a lovely word despite its disconcerting connotations.
The Woman Who Loved to Make Vaginas Happy, in which a sex worker for women discusses the intriguing details of her career and her love of giving women pleasure. In several performances it often comes at the end of the play, literally climaxing with a vocal demonstration of a "triple orgasm".
Because He Liked to Look At It, in which a woman describes how she had thought her vagina was ugly and had been embarrassed to even think about it, but changed her mind because of a sexual experience with a man named Bob who liked to spend hours looking at it.
I Was There In The Room, a monologue in which Eve Ensler describes the birth of her granddaughter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues


I find it interesting that women can make whatever comments about their fanny, about rape, etcetera as long as it's a pro-choice female and it's acceptable.

No one called out Eve Ensler--nor should they have--for making sensitive topics available as humour.

Green Arrow
04-02-2014, 12:35 PM
Ironically, The Vagina Monologues (which is a great piece of theatre, btw. A close friend of mine actually performed in it) is the exact same thing as the video I posted. Only difference is, TVM is about women and written by women.

Paperback Writer
04-02-2014, 12:39 PM
Hypocrisy.

Paperback Writer
04-02-2014, 12:54 PM
Sooooo
@Ravi (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=698) @junie (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=699) IMPress Polly

Do you feel that the The Little Coochie Snorcher That Could, deserved outrage? Moreover, these blasted women posing as people who were raped and to bring comedy into it, you must despise them, yeh?

I just want to know if you're hypocrites or if you think Eve Ensler is an arse.

Ravi
04-02-2014, 01:00 PM
So you admit he meant it as humor.

Cool beans.

Paperback Writer
04-02-2014, 01:04 PM
So you admit he meant it as humor.

Cool beans.
Ravi

are you completely stupid? You couldn't have watched the vid. There were moments of humour, but it turned quickly so that a valid point could be made. He used the medium to make a statement, no differently than Ensler and others did.

Ravi
04-02-2014, 01:15 PM
@Ravi (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=698)

are you completely stupid? You couldn't have watched the vid. There were moments of humour, but it turned quickly so that a valid point could be made. He used the medium to make a statement, no differently than Ensler and others did.

I did watch it after SageofMain pointed out that it appeared to be false. The guy seemed to be making fun of young male victims of predatory females. His acting was over the top.

Anyway, I think we've argued this topic to death.

Paperback Writer
04-02-2014, 01:17 PM
I did watch it after SageofMain pointed out that it appeared to be false. The guy seemed to be making fun of young male victims of predatory females. His acting was over the top.

Anyway, I think we've argued this topic to death.


Of course you do since you're wrong.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/86421/this-guy-thinks-male-rape-is-sincerely-hilarious-and-he-s-right

He says in the article he was a victim.

midcan5
04-02-2014, 01:43 PM
Can someone link the original debate thread, thanks.

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PS I see no hypocrisy in this.

Green Arrow
04-02-2014, 01:48 PM
Can someone link the original debate thread, thanks.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/24100-Why-Rape-Is-Sincerely-Hilarious

Do yourself a favor that Ravi and junie did not: watch the video before you complain about the title.

Paperback Writer
04-02-2014, 01:59 PM
Can someone link the original debate thread, thanks.

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PS I see no hypocrisy in this.

How can you see no hypocrisy if you don't know which thread the debate started in?

Mister D
04-02-2014, 02:06 PM
The more I consider the more incomprehensible it becomes. How could anyone take that title at face value? I'd imagine you would say to yourself, "WTF?" Then you would click on the link. Then would say, "Oh, I see." Maybe some folks are more emotional than I am.

Green Arrow
04-02-2014, 02:12 PM
The more I consider the more incomprehensible it becomes. How could anyone take that title at face value? I'd imagine you would say to yourself, "WTF?" Then you would click on the link. Then would say, "Oh, I see." Maybe some folks are more emotional than I am.

That was actually my reaction when I first found the video. I was like, "The fuck? No they did NOT!" Then I clicked the link and watched the video, ready to write a scathing critique of how stupid it was. Instead, I was blown away by how on-point the message was.

Paperback Writer
04-02-2014, 02:15 PM
I would have seen the title and thought it was sardonic. Oh, wait. That's exactly what I did do.

Mister D
04-02-2014, 02:25 PM
I would have seen the title and thought it was sardonic. Oh, wait. That's exactly what I did do.

Well, yeah. lol Same here.

midcan5
04-02-2014, 02:56 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/24100-Why-Rape-Is-Sincerely-Hilarious

Do yourself a favor that Ravi and junie did not: watch the video before you complain about the title.

I did watch the video it is rather sad in its use of irony. The reason I mentioned I did not see any hypocrisy was because the act is evil no matter the victim, nor how each deals with it. Maybe I misunderstood the comments.

And men do get raped as the Catholic church and the Military have demonstrated.

GrassrootsConservative
04-02-2014, 04:32 PM
I did watch the video it is rather sad in its use of irony. The reason I mentioned I did not see any hypocrisy was because the act is evil no matter the victim, nor how each deals with it. Maybe I misunderstood the comments.

And men do get raped as the Catholic church and the Military have demonstrated.

And hundreds of thousands in the government-constructed prison systems.

Adelaide
04-02-2014, 08:15 PM
I might have flipped over the title if it were posted by someone I perceived to be a troll or incredibly misogynistic (I won't lie, I thought at face value without looking past the title that it would be about women, and not men). It's like when you choose something informative to read; the source can and does matter. I know GA would never actually hold that type of belief and I can't believe it's still being argued about.

Peter1469
04-02-2014, 08:19 PM
I skipped over it at first because of the title, and only went back to look when the SHTF.