Voter fraud, It's Happening and it's rampant!

[momsapplepie]

The Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program is set up to allow states to upload their voter rolls and voting records to a separate system and be able to crosscheck their registered voters with other states. The goal, obviously, is to find instances where the same individual is registered in multiple states, or even voted multiple times across the country.

North Carolina has recently come under lot of criticism for its voter ID requirement. Critics say that there is no “sizeable” evidence of voter fraud in North Carolina that could possibly warrant voter ID requirements. Well, this year’s findings from the Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program prove that not only is Voter ID a good idea in North Carolina, but it is absolutely essential to protect the integrity of our elections!

The crosscheck revealed that in 2012, a whopping 35,750 people with the same first name, last name, and date of birth, were found to have voted in North Carolina AND another state. The preliminary findings suggest that there could be 35,750 cases of people voting twice (once in North Carolina, once in another state). Additionally, the program found that 81 people in North Carolina had cast ballots after their death.

In all, the Crosscheck Program recognized a total of 155,692 North Carolina voters whose first and last names, dates of birth and last four digits of their Social Security number matched those of voters registered in other states!

If you live in Illinois, there are potentially 211,023 registered voters who are also registered to vote in other states. With 7,292,639 registered voters in the state, that means that 2.8% of all Illinois registered voters are registered to vote in multiple states.

In Michigan, there are 164,837 potential duplicate voters (2.2% of all registered voters).

In Colorado, the program found 136,542 “residents” who were registered to vote in other states – a whopping 5.5% of all registered voters!

And in Arizona, where the Obama Administration has fought tooth and nail to stop the state from protecting the integrity of the vote, there are potentially 108,077 residents who are registered to vote in multiple states (3.4% of all registered voters).

This is what happens when 28 out of 50 states work together and compare their voter rolls to find duplicates. The program is literally finding hundreds of thousands of potential duplicate voters.

http://www.conservative-daily.com/2014/04/04/data-proves-that-voter-fraud-is-rampant/

Congress needs to make this program mandatory for ALL states. Think of the fraud that goes on in the other 22 states that have not run the voter registrations through the cross check. Yes, I believe this rampant fraud is how Obama won the elections in 2008 and 2012. For all the naysayers, the proof is in the data. Rampant Voter fraud exists, and Voter ID needs to be implemented nationwide.

[sachem]

No. It's not.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2012/11/06/voter-fraud-a-massive-anti-democratic-deception/

[ChoppedLiver]

No. It's not.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2012/11/06/voter-fraud-a-massive-anti-democratic-deception/

Let's see here...

...the OP and linked article is new evidence about voter fraud from an article posted the other day.

...YOUR linked article is from a year and a half ago.

NEXT!

:cool:

[GrassrootsConservative]

Lmao.

[Peter1469]

Voter fraud is certainly a problem. Typically the fraud at the ballot isn't much of an issue- until recently when elections a turning out closer to 50%-50% than in the past. Where fraud really hurts is when those in charge of the ballots "lose" entire percents of votes. We had parts of Pennsylvania that ended up with 100% votes for Obama. Not very likely. :smiley:

[midcan5]

@momsapplepie

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"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire

[nathanbforrest45]

Florida has long had problems with double voting. People in Yankeeland owning property in Florida vote either via absentee ballots or early voting and end up voting in both Florida and their home states. This has been going on for at least the last 14 years. I don't know if voter photo ID would stop this practice since they are legally entitled to vote in both states. One argument is that since they own property in both states they have a vested interest in representation in both states. This may be true for some positions but certainly not presidential elections.

[nathanbforrest45]

@momsapplepie

Well what did you think, was that swamp land, er, I mean fine pasture land something or what? Robem and Foolem real estate was glad to hear you have taken advantage of our wonderful offer. Oh and wait till you see the desert, er, nice farmland we offer too. You can't go wrong with Robem and Foolem real estate.

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire

Does this post make any sense to anyone who is not totally stoned?

[patrickt]

No. It's not.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2012/11/06/voter-fraud-a-massive-anti-democratic-deception/

Liberals are determined to convince people that there is no voter fraud but what you cited is an opinion piece from a man who is an expert because he's from Chicago and therefore knows about election fraud. And, he started his opinion with an emotional tug at the heartstrings about an elderly woman who didn't get to vote because she didn't have a driver's license but she didn't drive. That little story is pointless, other than emotional, because the little old lady didn't need a drivers license. She needed evidence that she really was Jimmy Hoffa or whoever she was saying she was. I realize the liberals, Democrats, leftists, whatever, want a process where you can walk in to a polling station on election day, pick up a ballot, walk into the booth, and vote. No ID. No prior registration. No, just vote easy-peasy as simple as an ATM and...as often as you want.

Dead people are still voting. In the recall election for Gov. Walker voters registered as living in hotels and their expenses were being paid by unions. Sincle apartments will be used as addresses for far more people than could possibly live there. Foreign nationals are still be registered to vote with motor voter laws and corrupt liberal voter registration employees. Worst of all, the federal government is suing states to maintain the systems that facilitate election and voter fraud.

Notice Melowese Richardson, convicted for voter fraud and released after less than a year of a five-year sentence is a heroine of the left, greeted by Al Sharpton and embraced by the Democrats. She's proud of herself.

[Max Rockatansky]

Voter fraud is certainly a problem. Typically the fraud at the ballot isn't much of an issue- until recently when elections a turning out closer to 50%-50% than in the past. Where fraud really hurts is when those in charge of the ballots "lose" entire percents of votes. We had parts of Pennsylvania that ended up with 100% votes for Obama. Not very likely. :smiley:

Most voter fraud is through absentee ballots. Something Voter ID wouldn't catch. I support Voter ID. What I don't support is a backdoor poll tax or a scheme to disenfranchise American voters.

The case of the 100% Obama voters has been investigated: http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp

The OP letter by Otto by points out that the voter rolls need to be cleaned up, then goes on a conspiracy theorist rant that Obama only won because of voter fraud. What he fails to recognize is the difference between duplicate voter rolls and actual duplicate voters.

This article also points out the need to clean up voter rolls without the conspiracy theorist bullshit: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/03/heres-how-to-clean-up-messy-voter-rolls/

As a retired member of the military, I have little doubt my name and SSN are on a couple of states given they haven't cleaned up their voter registration. Does that mean I vote in those other states? No, it does not and I have not.

[Cigar]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_86-X5Fn-0UA/TJ2aSnPmBoI/AAAAAAAAFYg/L61h9zVTRsM/s1600/not_this_shit_again.jpeg

Obama Won by over 5 Million Votes last Election ... are you really that stupid folks :rollseyes:

[Cigar]

No. It's not.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2012/11/06/voter-fraud-a-massive-anti-democratic-deception/



:dang: The Conservative Daily Dose of Bull-Shit ... they Lost, Twice ... by a Fucking lot of Votes, time to get over it.

[zelmo1234]

@momsapplepie

Well what did you think, was that swamp land, er, I mean fine pasture land something or what? Robem and Foolem real estate was glad to hear you have taken advantage of our wonderful offer. Oh and wait till you see the desert, er, nice farmland we offer too. You can't go wrong with Robem and Foolem real estate.

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire

You are correct but I hear if you use lotion that the chains won't rub your skin raw?

You might want to try it!

[zelmo1234]

Does this post make any sense to anyone who is not totally stoned?

His point is that as of right now most of this voting is Democratic, So he is OK with this.

And as long as the IRS can keep the TEA parties off the street so the advantage in voter fraud does not get neutralized, he will still be OK with it

However if the advantage switched to the republicans side? It will then, and only then need to be stopped

[nic34]

What folks seem not able to differentiate, is that voter fraud is not the same as election fraud. Very few voters knowingly commit fraud, the penalties are not worth what little is gained.

[zelmo1234]

:dang: The Conservative Daily Dose of Bull-Shit ... they Lost, Twice ... by a Fucking lot of Votes, time to get over it.

This might come as a complete surprise to you? But we elect a president by electoral vote not popular vote.

And the Fraud in VA OH, mi and pa, might have been enough to swing the vote.

But do not worry the democrats are fighting the correction to this problem so the republicans are starting to engage in this imagine when all the people with multiple homes start voting in each district?

And all of a sudden you have huge suburbs that turn out 100% vote for the Republican!

The Democrats will be screaming for reforms and voter ID

[Cigar]

What folks seem not able to differentiate, is that voter fraud is not the same as election fraud. Very few voters knowingly commit fraud, the penalties are not worth what little is gained.

.... and don't for get when you LOSE by ... 4,982,296 Votes, that ain't the work of ACORN :laugh:



Electoral vote

332
206


States carried
26 + DC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.)

24



Popular vote
65,915,796

60,933,500



Percentage
51.1%
47.2%

[Cigar]

This might come as a complete surprise to you? But we elect a president by electoral vote not popular vote.

And the Fraud in VA OH, mi and pa, might have been enough to swing the vote.

But do not worry the democrats are fighting the correction to this problem so the republicans are starting to engage in this imagine when all the people with multiple homes start voting in each district?

And all of a sudden you have huge suburbs that turn out 100% vote for the Republican!

The Democrats will be screaming for reforms and voter ID

What ... all the Gerrymandering sill didn't get you a WHITE HOUSE :grin:

[zelmo1234]

What ... all the Gerrymandering sill didn't get you a WHITE HOUSE :grin:

How would gerrymandering help you get the Whitehouse?? it goes by states?

I remember when Gerrymandering was a good thing, when democrats were in charge of it?

[junie]

@momsapplepie

Well what did you think, was that swamp land, er, I mean fine pasture land something or what? Robem and Foolem real estate was glad to hear you have taken advantage of our wonderful offer. Oh and wait till you see the desert, er, nice farmland we offer too. You can't go wrong with Robem and Foolem real estate.

"It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire


:laugh: all closings administered by attorneys dewey, cheatem and howe!

[nic34]

:laugh: all closings administered by attorneys dewey, cheatem and howe!

"Kickham, Harter, and Indagroyne"

nyuck, nyuck, nyuck

[patrickt]

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Cigar http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=570850#post570850)
":dang: The Conservative Daily Dose of Bull-Shit ... they Lost, Twice ... by a Fucking lot of Votes, time to get over it."

Golly, yes. And, Hitler won elections. So did Stalin and Castro. And, Chavez, landslides. The little tyrant in North Korea can only get 100% but in some precincts our Glorious Leader got 110%.

It's 2014, Cigar. Time to crank up the lies and slander.

[Peter1469]

From snopes: (like I said, not likely).



It is true that 59 voting divisions in Philadelphia recorded no votes for Mitt Romney, but given the voter composition of the Philadelphia area (and some Philadelphia wards in particular) and the number of voters in each division, that outcome was hardly a "mathematical and statistical impossibility."
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp#FCzmebJCcFMTGCko.99

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Most voter fraud is through absentee ballots. Something Voter ID wouldn't catch. I support Voter ID. What I don't support is a backdoor poll tax or a scheme to disenfranchise American voters.

The case of the 100% Obama voters has been investigated: http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp#FCzmebJCcFMTGCko.99)

The OP letter by Otto by points out that the voter rolls need to be cleaned up, then goes on a conspiracy theorist rant that Obama only won because of voter fraud. What he fails to recognize is the difference between duplicate voter rolls and actual duplicate voters.

This article also points out the need to clean up voter rolls without the conspiracy theorist bullshit: [URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/03/heres-how-to-clean-up-messy-voter-rolls/

As a retired member of the military, I have little doubt my name and SSN are on a couple of states given they haven't cleaned up their voter registration. Does that mean I vote in those other states? No, it does not and I have not.