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exotix
04-13-2014, 04:33 PM
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Kansas ~ Gunman Kills Three at Two Jewish Centers

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-city-horror-gunman-kills-three-two-jewish-centers-n79316

Three people were killed in two shootings at Kansas Jewish centers police said Sunday — the day before the Passover holiday begins.

The three victims were shot in the Kansas City, Kan., suburb of Overland Park, at a Jewish community center and a Jewish retirement home, police said.



A person of interest was in custody but police would not say which shooting he was related to.

A KSHB photographer on the scene spoke with a man who said a gunman aimed at him and shot the windows out of his car.
That person was not injured, the station said.

Local KSHB reporter Andres Gutierrez told MSNBC that one person was taken away in the back of a police car at a nearby elementary school — and yelled an anti-Semitic remark at onlookers.



Police stand outside a Jewish community center in Overland Park, Kans.

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_15/320856/140413-jcc-shooting-jms-1545_7750c68d714655ac9dbf8e692f5ee6d5.nbcnews-ux-840-600.jpg

ChoppedLiver
04-13-2014, 04:37 PM
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Sooooooo............

Are you ready to start ragging on some Jew-haters exotix?

:cool:

exotix
04-13-2014, 04:40 PM
Sooooooo............

Are you ready to start ragging on some Jew-haters @exotix (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=516)?

:cool:
Let's just say no doubt Lapierre will want to hold a news conference on this one ... to again remind you of your 2nd Amendment Rights ... http://i62.tinypic.com/343gopt.gif

ChoppedLiver
04-13-2014, 04:46 PM
Let's just say no doubt Lapierre will want to hold a news conference on this one ... to again remind you of your 2nd Amendment Rights ... http://i62.tinypic.com/343gopt.gif

If the libtard ilk uses this incident to grab firearms, which they idiotically usually do, he probably will.

So what?

:cool:

exotix
04-13-2014, 04:49 PM
If the libtard ilk uses this incident to grab firearms, which they idiotically usually do, he probably will.

So what?

:cool:
Lemme guess, if a neo-nazi assumes his 2nd Amendment Rights *remedies* in capping-off Jews ... he's got to be Lib.

hanger4
04-13-2014, 04:54 PM
Let's just say no doubt Lapierre will want to hold a news conference on this one ... to again remind you of your 2nd Amendment Rights ... http://i62.tinypic.com/343gopt.gifWell somebodies got to remind you, y'all on the left can't seem to remember what the 2nd amendment says.

ChoppedLiver
04-13-2014, 04:56 PM
Lemme guess, if a neo-nazi assumes his 2nd Amendment Rights *remedies* in capping-off Jews ... he's got to be Lib.

Usually. Most of the Jew-haters are libtards. But this guy is probably just an idiot as well as a libtard. Not like this is the first time a libtard has done something like this.
Want links to the Jew-hating libtards who have done something similar in the past?

:cool:

exotix
04-13-2014, 04:56 PM
Well somebodies got to remind you, y'all on the left can't seem to remember what the 2nd amendment says.
Usually. Most of the Jew-haters are libtards. But this guy is probably just an idiot as well as a libtard. Not like this is the first time a libtard has done something like this.
Want links to the Jew-hating libtards who have done something similar in the past?

:cool:
Well he appears to be a neonazi ...


Suspect yelled “Heil Hitler” as he was being led away in handcuffs by Overland Park police.

News conference to begin shortly ~ http://www.kctv5.com/story/25235053/shooting-reported-at-overland-park-jewish-community-center


http://i57.tinypic.com/w0lver.png

hanger4
04-13-2014, 04:58 PM
Lemme guess, if a neo-nazi assumes his 2nd Amendment Rights *remedies* in capping-off Jews ... he's got to be Lib.Nobody call,the shooter a lib. Take some reading comprehension classes exo. Gebus

exotix
04-13-2014, 05:00 PM
Nobody call,the shooter a lib. Take some reading comprehension classes exo. Gebus
Maybe you and chopped liver need to get your stories straight.

hanger4
04-13-2014, 05:06 PM
Well he appears to be a neonazi ... Suspect yelled “Heil Hitler” as he was being led away in handcuffs by Overland Park police.News conference to begin shortly ~ http://www.kctv5.com/story/25235053/shooting-reported-at-overland-park-jewish-community-centerhttp://i57.tinypic.com/w0lver.pngWell it seems another left-wing wack-a-doodle was trying to revive Hitlers final solution.

exotix
04-13-2014, 05:09 PM
Well it seems another left-wing wack-a-doodle was trying to revive Hitlers final solution.
How is a big fat bald white-dude heil-hitlering in assuming his 2nd Amendment Rights *remedies* in capping-off Jews remotely lib ?

Cigar
04-13-2014, 05:09 PM
Well it seems another left-wing wack-a-doodle was trying to revive Hitlers final solution.

That's Funny, considering who's been using Hitler for the last several years. :laugh:

hanger4
04-13-2014, 05:18 PM
How is a big fat bald white-dude heil-hitlering in assuming his 2nd Amendment Rights *remedies* in capping-off Jews remotely lib ?
That's Funny, considering who's been using Hitler for the last several years. :laugh:Fascism is a form of leftism children. Try a keep up.

exotix
04-13-2014, 05:21 PM
Fascism is a form of leftism children. Try a keep up.
Kook ... http://i59.tinypic.com/o8w9zo.gif

Peter1469
04-13-2014, 05:30 PM
Kook ... http://i59.tinypic.com/o8w9zo.gif

Don't get butt hurt. He is correct.

The massive government control required by fascism can only be done by lefties.

hanger4
04-13-2014, 05:31 PM
Kook ... http://i59.tinypic.com/o8w9zo.gifSays the girl who has no argument.

exotix
04-13-2014, 05:48 PM
Don't get butt hurt. He is correct.

The massive government control required by fascism can only be done by lefties.
Says the girl who has no argument.http://i60.tinypic.com/25g41vl.gif


http://i59.tinypic.com/f5dlqf.png

Spectre
04-13-2014, 05:54 PM
Kook ... http://i59.tinypic.com/o8w9zo.gif

Ah, no, both are collectivist philosophies with deep common roots in 19th century Hegelian philosophy. Mussolini began as a socialist and Italian Fascism was regarded as a progressivist political philosophy for a long time by as great a hero of the left as Bernard Shaw, and National Socialism...well, the name speaks for itself. Neither was fond of liberal democratic capitalism, which they regarded as decadent.

exotix
04-13-2014, 05:57 PM
Ah, no, both are collectivist philosophies with deep common roots in 19th century Hegelian philosophy. Mussolini began as a socialist and Italian Fascism was regarded as a progressivist political philosophy for a long time by as great a hero of the left as Bernard Shaw, and National Socialism...well, the name speaks for itself. Neither was fond of liberal democratic capitalism, which they regarded as decadent.
Kook ... http://i59.tinypic.com/o8w9zo.gif

Peter1469
04-13-2014, 05:57 PM
http://i60.tinypic.com/25g41vl.gif


http://i59.tinypic.com/f5dlqf.png

You know I am right.

Spectre
04-13-2014, 05:57 PM
http://i60.tinypic.com/25g41vl.gif


http://i59.tinypic.com/f5dlqf.png

You might want to educate yourself on this matter, exotix, by reading a book by two of the greatest living historians of our time on this subject, all about the close inter-relationship between communism and fascism:

http://www.amazon.com/Fascism-Communism-European-Horizons-Francois/dp/0803269145/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397429725&sr=1-1

hanger4
04-13-2014, 05:59 PM
http://i60.tinypic.com/25g41vl.gifhttp://i59.tinypic.com/f5dlqf.pngImpressive exo, you can post a pic. Shame it means nothing. Some dude holding a couple of symbols. Try posting a cognitive rebuttal as to why fascism or nazism is not leftest instead of meaningless cartoon pic.

exotix
04-13-2014, 06:05 PM
You know I am right.
You might want to educate yourself on this matter, exotix, by reading a book by two of the greatest living historians of our time on this subject, all about the close inter-relationship between communism and fascism:

http://www.amazon.com/Fascism-Communism-European-Horizons-Francois/dp/0803269145/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397429725&sr=1-1

Impressive exo, you can post a pic. Shame it means nothing. Some dude holding a couple of symbols. Try posting a cognitive rebuttal as to why fascism or nazism is not leftest instead of meaningless cartoon pic.
Yes ?

Remind us again why Duhbyas' grandfather ... Prescott Bush ... had his company's assets seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act .. this is important since something happened on June 22, 1941 ...

What Happened ?

hanger4
04-13-2014, 06:10 PM
Yes ?Remind us again why Duhbyas' grandfather ... Prescott Bush ... had his company's assets seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act .. this is important since something happened on June 22, 1941 ... What Happened ?Remind us again why you are attempting to deflect from answering why fascism nazism is not a part of leftism ??

exotix
04-13-2014, 06:11 PM
Remind us again why you are attempting to deflect from answering why fascism nazism is not a part of leftism ??
Well you and your buddies are kooks ... I always get a good laugh at that ... LOL.

Peter1469
04-13-2014, 06:14 PM
Get me on your special email list for the talking points. Please.

Spectre
04-13-2014, 06:24 PM
http://i60.tinypic.com/25g41vl.gif


http://i59.tinypic.com/f5dlqf.png

You might want to educate yourself on this matter, exotix, by reading a book by two of the greatest living historians of our time, all about the close inter-relationship between communism and fascism:

http://www.amazon.com/Fascism-Communism-European-Horizons-Francois/dp/0803269145/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397429725&sr=1-1

Spectre
04-13-2014, 06:26 PM
Kook ... http://i59.tinypic.com/o8w9zo.gif

You don't know who Hegel is, do you exotix.....

nathanbforrest45
04-13-2014, 06:31 PM
Usually. Most of the Jew-haters are libtards. But this guy is probably just an idiot as well as a libtard. Not like this is the first time a libtard has done something like this.
Want links to the Jew-hating libtards who have done something similar in the past?


:cool:

You mean starting with the entire German population in the 20's and 30's. They were all followers of the National SOCIALIST Party and no matter how much the left wants to disavow itself from the National SOCIALIST Party their core values were no difference than today's Democrats.

exotix
04-13-2014, 06:33 PM
You don't know who Hegel is, do you exotix.....
Like quit kidding ... lemme guess ... you're going to book-burn Hegel (Wilhelm Friedrich) ... and rewrite 'em in tea party manifesto ... LOL

hanger4
04-13-2014, 06:34 PM
Well you and your buddies are kooks ... I always get a good laugh at that ... LOL.Seeing as how you don't have The cahonies to defend your *nazism is right wing* belief I will say one thing, your Prescot Bush statement is BS also.

Spectre
04-13-2014, 06:37 PM
Like quit kidding ... lemme guess ... you're going to book-burn Hegel (Wilhelm Friedrich) ... and rewrite 'em in tea party manifesto ... LOL

I think the weight of your ponyfalls is putting intolerable pressure on your brain, exotix.

exotix
04-13-2014, 06:40 PM
You mean starting with the entire German population in the 20's and 30's. They were all followers of the National SOCIALIST Party and no matter how much the left wants to disavow itself from the National SOCIALIST Party their core values were no difference than today's Democrats.
Of course that'll be news to the World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists ... who believe the Third Reich was based largely on the founding father philosophy in drafting the constitution ... with *allegiance* being the primary and principle factor of it's national socialism ...

nathanbforrest45
04-13-2014, 06:41 PM
Assuming Prescott Bush was a Nazi sympathizer, which he may very well have been, so was much of the so called "intelligentsia" during the period before the beginning of the war. Roosevelt had great admiration for Mussolini because he could make laws to change economic policy without worrying about the Constitution. Furthermore, what exactly does all that have to do with what happened in Kansas City? Do you think Prescott Bush came back from the dead and pulled the trigger?

nathanbforrest45
04-13-2014, 06:41 PM
Of course that'll be news to the World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists ... who believe the Third Reich was based largely on the founding father philosophy in drafting the constitution ... with *allegiance* being the primary and principle factor of it's national socialism ...


That is the most insane interpretation I have ever heard.

Free Enterprise and National Socialist????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????

That is an oxymoron, but then again leave off the first three letters and you are described to a "T"

exotix
04-13-2014, 06:45 PM
Assuming Prescott Bush was a Nazi sympathizer, which he may very well have been, so was much of the so called "intelligentsia" during the period before the beginning of the war. Roosevelt had great admiration for Mussolini because he could make laws to change economic policy without worrying about the Constitution. Furthermore, what exactly does all that have to do with what happened in Kansas City? Do you think Prescott Bush came back from the dead and pulled the trigger?
Makes you wonder why the majority of Americas' Jews vote Dem/Lib.

Spectre
04-13-2014, 06:46 PM
Of course that'll be news to the World Union of Free Enterprise National Socialists ... who believe the Third Reich was based largely on the founding father philosophy in drafting the constitution ... with *allegiance* being the primary and principle factor of it's national socialism ...
Sounds like you scored some bad meth...

Bob
04-13-2014, 06:51 PM
That may be rare to Exotix but she needs to track the city of Oakland, CA where such killings are quite normal.

nathanbforrest45
04-13-2014, 06:54 PM
Makes you wonder why the majority of Americas' Jews vote Dem/Lib.

Yes it does. Its as perplexing as why African Americans vote for the party dedicated to keeping them in bondage.

exotix
04-13-2014, 07:00 PM
Yes it does. Its as perplexing as why African Americans vote for the party dedicated to keeping them in bondage.
Well suffice to say ... most things perplex you ... LOL.

Bob
04-13-2014, 07:02 PM
Yes ?

Remind us again why Duhbyas' grandfather ... Prescott Bush ... had his company's assets seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act .. this is important since something happened on June 22, 1941 ...

What Happened ?
Remind us again of why FDR created his model based on the Hitler system?

nathanbforrest45
04-13-2014, 07:03 PM
Well suffice to say ... most things perplex you ... LOL.


What a deep and insightful comeback.

exotix
04-13-2014, 07:04 PM
Remind us again of why FDR created his model based on the Hitler system?
I give ... explain please ... should be good ... LOL.

Mr. Right
04-13-2014, 07:11 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=575908#post575908)Yes it does. Its as perplexing as why African Americans vote for the party dedicated to keeping them in bondage.
Well suffice to say ... most things perplex you ... LOL.


What a deep and insightful comeback.

IMHO, that's about as good as it gets.
Getting back to the point, exotix thinks that if guns are outlawed and banned that things like this will never happen. The truth is that there are so many firearms in the U.S. that they'd never even collect half of them if there was a ban. The interesting part is that ONLY law abiding
citizens would consider parting with their weapons. I know, E... that's a bit heavy for ya.

exotix
04-13-2014, 07:20 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=575908#post575908)Yes it does. Its as perplexing as why African Americans vote for the party dedicated to keeping them in bondage.
Well suffice to say ... most things perplex you ... LOL.



IMHO, that's about as good as it gets.
Getting back to the point, exotix thinks that if guns are outlawed and banned that things like this will never happen. The truth is that there are so many firearms in the U.S. that they'd never even collect half of them if there was a ban. The interesting part is that ONLY law abiding
citizens would consider parting with their weapons. I know, E... that's a bit heavy for ya.
I'm still waiting for Bobblehead to explain Liberal authoritarian regimes ... whether they be socialism/communism and national socialist facism ... yours is easy ... firearm massacres are an attack on your 2nd Amendment Rights.

hanger4
04-13-2014, 07:47 PM
I'm still waiting for Bobblehead to explain Liberal authoritarian regimes ... whether they be socialism/communism and national socialist facism ... yours is easy ... firearm massacres are an at tack on your 2nd Amendment Rights.You're not waiting, you're just running around trying to avoid the questions being asked. And firearm massacres have nothing to do with our 2nd amendment rights.

exotix
04-13-2014, 07:53 PM
You're not waiting, you're just running around trying to avoid the questions being asked. And firearm massacres have nothing to do with our 2nd amendment rights.
Yes ?

Step up to the plate and enthrall us with all that you know about socialism/communism and national socialist fascism as Liberal regime/agendas ... and while you're at it ... compare and contrast them with all other global political/geo-schemes ... finally match them all up to firearm deaths in those geo-schemes ...

hanger4
04-13-2014, 08:03 PM
Yes ?Step up to the plate and enthrall us with all that you know about socialism/communism and national socialist fascism as Liberal regime/agendas ... and while you're at it ... compare and contrast them with all other global political/geo-schemes ... finally match them all up to firearm deaths in those geo-schemes ...Mighty big words from someone who avoids answering the questions you raise from you own comments.

exotix
04-13-2014, 08:06 PM
Mighty big words from someone who avoids answering the questions you raise from you own comments.
In other words you don't know ... because you'e a teabag dummy ... LOL.

BB-35
04-13-2014, 08:07 PM
More rolling in the blood?

Mr. Right
04-13-2014, 08:12 PM
In other words you don't know ... because you'e a teabag dummy ... LOL.

Right, and what is the weight of a sparrow?

hanger4
04-13-2014, 08:25 PM
In other words you don't know ... because you'e a teabag dummy ... LOL.OH I'm sorry sweetie, it's just that I won't allow you to deflect and side track from your own foibles.

Bob
04-13-2014, 08:27 PM
In other words you don't know ... because you'e a teabag dummy ... LOL.

Given your Avatar, which I am sure you have hashed and rehashed it over with posters, I am feeling bad for you.

Don't you wish you had some glamour?

BB-35
04-13-2014, 08:45 PM
Right, and what is the weight of a sparrow?

African or european?

nathanbforrest45
04-14-2014, 06:46 AM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=575908#post575908)Yes it does. Its as perplexing as why African Americans vote for the party dedicated to keeping them in bondage.
Well suffice to say ... most things perplex you ... LOL.



IMHO, that's about as good as it gets.
Getting back to the point, exotix thinks that if guns are outlawed and banned that things like this will never happen. The truth is that there are so many firearms in the U.S. that they'd never even collect half of them if there was a ban. The interesting part is that ONLY law abiding
citizens would consider parting with their weapons. I know, E... that's a bit heavy for ya.


She understood the law part. Its the abiding part that has her flummoxed

exotix
04-14-2014, 06:58 AM
Mass-Murderer Frazier Glenn Cross, Jr. age 73 is a former Grand Dragon of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/former-kkk-leader-suspected-jewish-center-attacks-sources-n79486

The Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City sued Cross in the 1980s for intimidating African Americans, and he has had several run-ins with the law since then, including being accused of violating the terms of a court order that settled the lawsuit.


Video Inside

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_16/320976/140413-jewish-center-poi-jms-1810_62353fa105da0e22257eb13d3930e9cd.nbcnews-fp-1760-600.jpg

hanger4
04-14-2014, 07:08 AM
Mass-Murderer Frazier Glenn Cross, Jr. age 73 is a former Grand Dragon of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klanhttp://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/former-kkk-leader-suspected-jewish-center-attacks-sources-n79486The Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City sued Cross in the 1980s for intimidating African Americans, and he has had several run-ins with the law since then, including being accused of violating the terms of a court order that settled the lawsuit.Video Insidehttp://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_16/320976/140413-jewish-center-poi-jms-1810_62353fa105da0e22257eb13d3930e9cd.nbcnews-fp-1760-600.jpgStill want to argue if he's left or right ?? My personal belief, he's a nut job plain and simple.

exotix
04-14-2014, 07:10 AM
Still want to argue if he's left or right ?? My personal belief, he's a nut job plain and simple.
Kook ... http://i61.tinypic.com/2efj23r.gif

hanger4
04-14-2014, 07:15 AM
Kook ... http://i61.tinypic.com/2efj23r.gifCan't defend your beliefs ?? Sucks to be you doesn't it exotix ??

Adelaide
04-14-2014, 07:38 AM
Recorded hate crimes continually show that Jews are the group most targeted - but hate crime is such an ambiguous term that it would be difficult to know the true number of hate crimes and thus whether Jews are the most targeted group. At any rate, based on the information that comes out year after year, I think this type of shooting/attack isn't overly surprising.

Max Rockatansky
04-14-2014, 07:45 AM
Let's just say no doubt Lapierre will want to hold a news conference on this one ... to again remind you of your 2nd Amendment Rights ... http://i62.tinypic.com/343gopt.gif

You lost me. Is this like Rahm's strategy to never let a crisis go to waste? A neo-nazi KKK leader murders three people and you're using this as a platform to ban shotguns?

Refugee
04-14-2014, 07:52 AM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=575908#post575908)Yes it does. Its as perplexing as why African Americans vote for the party dedicated to keeping them in bondage.
Well suffice to say ... most things perplex you ... LOL.



IMHO, that's about as good as it gets.
Getting back to the point, exotix thinks that if guns are outlawed and banned that things like this will never happen. The truth is that there are so many firearms in the U.S. that they'd never even collect half of them if there was a ban. The interesting part is that ONLY law abiding
citizens would consider parting with their weapons. I know, E... that's a bit heavy for ya.

Firearms were banned in the UK and gun crime doubled. I suppose you have to find a way to make the criminals agree to any ban as well and no one has found a way to do that yet. :smiley: It's a bit like banning smoking and pointing to those who don't smoke as a success story, whilst pretending those that do don't exist. It's a liberal thing.

exotix
04-14-2014, 07:52 AM
You lost me. Is this like Rahm's strategy to never let a crisis go to waste? A neo-nazi KKK leader murders three people and you're using this as a platform to ban shotguns?
Yes?
Where in the OP does the OP mention political strategies and firearms bans ?

Max Rockatansky
04-14-2014, 08:01 AM
Yes?
Where in the OP does the OP mention political strategies and firearms bans ?The OP doesn't which is why I didn't quote you in the OP. I quoted you here:
Let's just say no doubt Lapierre will want to hold a news conference on this one ... to again remind you of your 2nd Amendment Rights ... http://i62.tinypic.com/343gopt.gifWhy did you bring up Lapierre and the Second Amendment if you didn't want to make it part of this thread discussion? You mentioned the Second Amendment again here:
How is a big fat bald white-dude heil-hitlering in assuming his 2nd Amendment Rights *remedies* in capping-off Jews remotely lib ?

I'm still waiting for Bobblehead to explain Liberal authoritarian regimes ... whether they be socialism/communism and national socialist facism ... yours is easy ... firearm massacres are an attack on your 2nd Amendment Rights.
Seems to me you like linking this kook and the murder of 3 people with the Second Amendment. If you are not, then why do you keep bringing it up?

exotix
04-14-2014, 08:04 AM
The OP doesn't which is why I didn't quote you in the OP. I quoted you here:Why did you bring up Lapierre and the Second Amendment if you didn't want to make it part of this thread discussion? You mentioned the Second Amendment again here:

Seems to me you like linking this kook and the murder of 3 people with the Second Amendment. If you are not, then why do you keep bringing it up?
Oh, notice the first post ... I was literally accused of *ragging on Jew-Haters* ... what kind of mind could conjure that one up on the first post ?

patrickt
04-14-2014, 08:09 AM
Exotix's strategy of strawmen and ignoring legitimate questions continues unabated.

My condolences for the victims and their families.

Max Rockatansky
04-14-2014, 08:11 AM
Oh, notice the first post ... I was literally accused of *ragging on Jew-Haters* ... what kind of mind could conjure that one up on the first post ?

As the evidence shows, you've linked this tragedy to the Second Amendment in three posts. Yes, what kind of mind would do that?

exotix
04-14-2014, 08:15 AM
Exotix's strategy of strawmen and ignoring legitimate questions continues unabated.

My condolences for the victims and their families.
As the evidence shows, you've linked this tragedy to the Second Amendment in three posts. Yes, what kind of mind would do that?
You got me there ... once the thread proceeded down the road of twisted hate-based ideologues and 2nd Amendment *remedies* ... well, it continued and unabated ... you seem shocked at this ...


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nathanbforrest45
04-14-2014, 08:21 AM
The idea that one group is superior to another group and inferior groups should be exterminated is a "Progressive" ideology. From Margaret Sanger's birth control and abortion as a method of reducing the number of blacks to Hitler's extermination of the Jews we see this constant thread from the left leaning Progressives. Wilson, FDR, LBJ, were all Democrats. All thought there were those who were inferior and either should be eliminated or taken care of by the elite. The KKK has much more in common with Nazi Germany in this regard than they do with any Tea Party group today.

Left wing, Socialist, Liberal, Progressive do not adequately describe those who would gladly enslave you today. Robert Heinlein stated it best in my signature quotation below.

Exotix is just a nut job who deserves about as much attention as the average 2 year old.

exotix
04-14-2014, 10:20 AM
The idea that one group is superior to another group and inferior groups should be exterminated is a "Progressive" ideology. From Margaret Sanger's birth control and abortion as a method of reducing the number of blacks to Hitler's extermination of the Jews we see this constant thread from the left leaning Progressives. Wilson, FDR, LBJ, were all Democrats. All thought there were those who were inferior and either should be eliminated or taken care of by the elite.

The KKK has much more in common with Nazi Germany in this regard than they do with any Tea Party group today.

Left wing, Socialist, Liberal, Progressive do not adequately describe those who would gladly enslave you today. Robert Heinlein stated it best in my signature quotation below.

Exotix is just a nut job who deserves about as much attention as the average 2 year old.
Yes ?

When did tea party froth, hate and death become a sign of strength for conservatism ?

Spectre
04-14-2014, 10:26 AM
Yes ?

When did tea party froth, hate and death become a sign of strength for conservatism ?

Tea Party smaller, more limited government ideals are the ONLY hope to save the future. You need to be advancing it, not diminishing it: we've seen what a disaster the soft socialism+fascist intimidation to enforce it as practiced by the current administration has been.

There is no alternative to limited government ideals. Which are Tea Party ideals. None. Zero.

hanger4
04-14-2014, 10:29 AM
Sorry Exotix, I know this is gonna hurt;


He even unsuccessfully ran in the Democratic primary for North Carolina governor in 1984 and as a Republican for a state Senate seat in 1987

NBC (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/former-kkk-leader-suspected-jewish-center-attacks-sources-n79486)

Like I said he's a nut case.

Spectre
04-14-2014, 10:35 AM
Yes ?

When did tea party froth, hate and death become a sign of strength for conservatism ?

I say this to you honestly, because you have to be aware of the impression you make on everyone: I have been here only a short time, but I can say that you may well be the LEAST bright leftist poster I've ever come across, in ANY forum.

Just sayin'...you might want to do a gut-check and make modifications in how you present yourself here.

exotix
04-14-2014, 10:39 AM
Tea Party smaller, more limited government ideals are the ONLY hope to save the future. You need to be advancing it, not diminishing it: we've seen what a disaster the soft socialism+fascist intimidation to enforce it as practiced by the current administration has been.

There is no alternative to limited government ideals. Which are Tea Party ideals. None. Zero.
No what I mean is ... people who froth in hate & lunacy are weak people ... who are actually angry & frightened ... and rely on self-victimization .. this is mainly driven by character defects and personality dysfunctions ... or self-hate ... this is called cognitive dissonance ...

Charlatans, say like Palin ... have merely manipulated *false events to appear real* to enrich themselves off of it all ... and this is all the tea party is and since Sal Russo accidentally invented it.

hanger4
04-14-2014, 10:51 AM
Charlatans, say like Palin ... have merely manipulated *false events to appear real* to enrich themselves off of it all ... and this is all the tea party is and since Sal Russo accidentally invented it.

Sounds just like you exo, your last name Palin ??

nathanbforrest45
04-14-2014, 11:23 AM
No what I mean is ... people who froth in hate & lunacy are weak people ... who are actually angry & frightened ... and rely on self-victimization .. this is mainly driven by character defects and personality dysfunctions ... or self-hate ... this is called cognitive dissonance ...

.

Sounds like most liberals to me.

Tell me Exotix, just what is wrong with being free to choose your own course of action?

exotix
04-14-2014, 11:29 AM
Sounds like most liberals to me.

Tell me Exotix, just what is wrong with being free to choose your own course of action?
Why ?
Who is stopping you ?

nathanbforrest45
04-14-2014, 11:37 AM
Why ?
Who is stopping you ?

If someone asked you for the time of the day I bet you dance around that one as well.

If you truly believe people are completely free to choose then how do you explain the millions of laws on the books?

exotix
04-14-2014, 11:43 AM
If someone asked you for the time of the day I bet you dance around that one as well.

If you truly believe people are completely free to choose then how do you explain the millions of laws on the books?
No what I mean is .. who is retarding your liberty and freedom to flourish ... say for instance, Paulie told you this last weekend at the Freedom Summit that the 1%, minorities in prison for drugs and Obama listening-in on your cell-phone is *infringing on you, impeding your progress and turning you into helpless gimps* ....

http://s8.tinypic.com/25g41vl_th.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwnnSubbSvg

Germanicus
04-14-2014, 11:46 AM
This story seems fake to me.

Also, why is this the top story and not the Ukraine situation? All day long google news kept running stories about this as top story.

I would have thought what was happening in Ukraine was bigger news.

Also, this story seems like nonsense. How old was the guy again? And was he 'Nazi' or Klan? Both? Sure he doesnt have links to CIA?

nathanbforrest45
04-14-2014, 11:48 AM
I thought you had left the forum. With as much bullshit as you add you really should.

nathanbforrest45
04-14-2014, 11:49 AM
No what I mean is .. who is retarding your liberty and freedom to flourish ... say for instance, Paulie told you this last weekend at the Freedom Summit that the 1%, minorities in prison for drugs and Obama listening-in on your cell-phone is *infringing on you, impeding your progress and turning you into helpless gimps* ....

http://s8.tinypic.com/25g41vl_th.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwnnSubbSvg

You are truly a piece of work. I don't know of anyone, not even Germanicus that is as insane as you are.

Bob
04-14-2014, 11:52 AM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=575924#post575924)
Remind us again of why FDR created his model based on the Hitler system?


I give ... explain please ... should be good ... LOL.

Hitler handled Germany's economic disaster by vast public works. Highways, buildings and manufacturing yanked Germany out of a deep depression. When FDR followed suit on manufacturing, America came out of the depression.

exotix
04-14-2014, 12:01 PM
You are truly a piece of work. I don't know of anyone, not even Germanicus that is as insane as you are.
Yes ?

Here's your other teabag hero *not* telling you why you are a slave in a Dem/Lib FEMA Camp Gulag ... just telling you are ... LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tGFmCyUmxc

Bob
04-14-2014, 12:02 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by exotix http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=575613#post575613)
Let's just say no doubt Lapierre will want to hold a news conference on this one ... to again remind you of your 2nd Amendment Rights ... http://i62.tinypic.com/343gopt.gif


Firearms were banned in the UK and gun crime doubled. I suppose you have to find a way to make the criminals agree to any ban as well and no one has found a way to do that yet. :smiley: It's a bit like banning smoking and pointing to those who don't smoke as a success story, whilst pretending those that do don't exist. It's a liberal thing.

She must be the life of parties. Can you imagine her pulling those stunts in a friendly group?

She must despise the constitution given she talks anti second amendment stuff.

exotix
04-14-2014, 12:10 PM
She must be the life of parties. Can you imagine her pulling those stunts in a friendly group?

She must despise the constitution given she talks anti second amendment stuff.
It gets better ... I talk all this same shit to my baptist christian conservative constituents here in Alabama ... in fact half the time they are watching me do it here ... everyone likes to hear my shit this ...

No need to guess why ... http://s8.tinypic.com/25g41vl_th.jpg

Spectre
04-14-2014, 12:10 PM
Exotix has three, maybe four, tab up on her computer right now:

One, this site...

Two, Daily Kos...

Three, Media Matters...

and as a possible forth, Democratic Underground.

She cuts and pastes like a maniac, feverishly throwing up the most inconsistent and incoherent rubbish as posts because these ideas are not her own, they are derived second hand and she doesn't even bother digesting and assimilating them before posting her replies.

Bob
04-14-2014, 12:12 PM
Originally Posted by exotix

Yes ?

Here's your other teabag hero *not* telling you why you are a slave in a Dem/Lib FEMA Camp Gulag ... just telling you you are ... LOL

The tea party is not tea bag.

Surely you use that term in the context of homosexual acts?

I saw Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and can't recall them saying what you claim they said. Do you have the transcript?

hanger4
04-14-2014, 12:13 PM
Exotix has three, maybe four, tab up on her computer right now:

One, this site...

Two, Daily Kos...

Three, Media Matters...

and as a possible forth, Democratic Underground.

She cuts and pastes like a maniac, feverishly throwing up the most inconsistent and incoherent rubbish as posts because these ideas are not her own, they are derived second hand and she doesn't even bother digesting and assimilating them before posting her replies.

Don't forget NBC, all her news posts are NBC.

exotix
04-14-2014, 12:13 PM
Exotix has three, maybe four, tab up on her computer right now:

One, this site...

Two, Daily Kos...

Three, Media Matters...

and as a possible forth, Democratic Underground.

She cuts and pastes like a maniac, feverishly throwing up the most inconsistent and incoherent rubbish as posts because these ideas are not her own, they are derived second hand and she doesn't even bother digesting and assimilating them before posting her replies.
Depends ... say for instance this OP didn't require any flame directed at right-wing loons ... this is because it was pretty self-explanatory ... LOL.

hanger4
04-14-2014, 12:14 PM
This story seems fake to me.

Also, why is this the top story and not the Ukraine situation? All day long google news kept running stories about this as top story.

I would have thought what was happening in Ukraine was bigger news.

Also, this story seems like nonsense. How old was the guy again? And was he 'Nazi' or Klan? Both? Sure he doesnt have links to CIA?

The "Ukraine situation" makes the Boss look bad.

exotix
04-14-2014, 12:15 PM
The tea party is not tea bag.

Surely you use that term in the context of homosexual acts?

I saw Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and can't recall them saying what you claim they said. Do you have the transcript?

Where did they actually explain why you have lost your Liberty & Freedom ?

Bob
04-14-2014, 12:16 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=576787#post576787)
She must be the life of parties. Can you imagine her pulling those stunts in a friendly group?

She must despise the constitution given she talks anti second amendment stuff.



It gets better ... I talk all this same shit to my baptist christian conservative constituents here in Alabama ... in fact half the time they are watching me do it here ... everyone likes to hear my shit this ...

No need to guess why ... http://s8.tinypic.com/25g41vl_th.jpg

Apparently you need to read HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE. It is excellent. It might cure that problem.

exotix
04-14-2014, 12:17 PM
Apparently you need to read HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE. It is excellent. It might cure that problem.
Who said ... *if you want a friend get a dog* ... LOL.

hanger4
04-14-2014, 12:18 PM
Depends ... say for instance this OP didn't require any flame directed at right-wing loons ... this is because it was pretty self-explanatory ... LOL.

True dat, he is as much a left-wing loon as right, even ran for a Democrat seat.

Who'd a thunk. :)

Bob
04-14-2014, 12:21 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=576794#post576794)
The tea party is not tea bag.

Surely you use that term in the context of homosexual acts?

I saw Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and can't recall them saying what you claim they said. Do you have the transcript?


Where did they actually explain why you have lost your Liberty & Freedom ?

The answer you were to give me was not a question.

I am aware of the loss of freedom.

It got much worse at the same time of Hitler.

exotix
04-14-2014, 12:21 PM
True dat, he is as much a left-wing loon as right, even ran for a Democrat seat.

Who'd a thunk. :)
Yes ?

How'd the Grand Dragon for the Klan do ?

hanger4
04-14-2014, 12:24 PM
Yes ?

How'd the Grand Dragon for the Klan do ?

Like most leftest loons, he lost.

Bob
04-14-2014, 12:27 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=576809#post576809)
Apparently you need to read HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE. It is excellent. It might cure that problem.



Who said ... *if you want a friend get a dog* ... LOL.

Harry S. Truman. I went to a rally held for him when he ran for president. Truman was full of quips.

exotix
04-14-2014, 12:28 PM
Like most leftest loons, he lost.
Yes ?
Well after he lost that one in 1984 .. how'd he do as Republican for a state senate seat in 1987 ?

hanger4
04-14-2014, 01:07 PM
Yes ?Well after he lost that one in 1984 .. how'd he do as Republican for a state senate seat in 1987 ?He lost that one too as most loons do. Like I said he's a LOON, neither left nor right. Why do you need to pigeon hole all evil actions left or right ?? Some evil is just evil for evils sake.

Ransom
04-14-2014, 01:12 PM
Yes ?

How'd the Grand Dragon for the Klan do ?

You'll have to ask Senator Byrd.

nathanbforrest45
04-14-2014, 01:13 PM
You'll have to ask Senator Byrd.


OH wait, he was a Democrat so that was ok.

nathanbforrest45
04-14-2014, 01:15 PM
Harry S. Truman. I went to a rally held for him when he ran for president. Truman was full of quips.

My goodness, you are an old shit aren't you.

I went to Hooters the other day with a friend. He asked me which of the Hooters girls I would want to be trapped in an elevator with. I told him the one who could fix the elevator of course. Shit, I am getting old too!!!

Ransom
04-14-2014, 01:21 PM
My goodness, you are an old shit aren't you.

I went to Hooters the other day with a friend. He asked me which of the Hooters girls I would want to be trapped in an elevator with. I told him the one who could fix the elevator of course. Shit, I am getting old too!!!

I too picked the elevator repair skilled employee....course.....she'll have to mulitask.

Professor Peabody
04-14-2014, 10:38 PM
Let's just say no doubt Lapierre will want to hold a news conference on this one ... to again remind you of your 2nd Amendment Rights ... http://i62.tinypic.com/343gopt.gif


Gunman who screamed 'Heil Hitler' 'after he shot dead three' in Jewish center and retirement home on the eve of Passover is revealed as renowned KKK leader who ran for CONGRESS

By James Nye (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=James++Nye) and Helen Pow (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Helen+Pow) and Wills Robinson (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Wills+Robinson)
Published: 14:32 EST, 13 April 2014 | Updated: 09:14 EST, 14 April 2014


He also ran for congress in North Carolina and Missouri, and also sought nomination for Governor in North Carolina for the Democratic party.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603828/Three-dead-shootings-two-separate-Jewish-centers-Kansas-City.html

A Democrat, I should have known! :rofl:

GrassrootsConservative
04-15-2014, 05:19 AM
So OP do you know through your own antisemitism this other Liberal neonazi that did these killings?

I know your numbers are small, so you must be pretty tight knit.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/8532-John-Boehner-must-go/page3?p=181936#post181936

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/8713-Rushbo-*I’m-the-primary-reason-the-Republican-Party-lost*?p=185511&viewfull=1#post185511

Your hatred for Jews is pathetic.

Max Rockatansky
04-15-2014, 05:22 AM
You'll have to ask Senator Byrd.
LOL.

All Klan members are assholes regardless of their party.

exotix
04-15-2014, 07:24 AM
So OP do you know through your own antisemitism this other Liberal neonazi that did these killings?

I know your numbers are small, so you must be pretty tight knit.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/8532-John-Boehner-must-go/page3?p=181936#post181936

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/8713-Rushbo-*I’m-the-primary-reason-the-Republican-Party-lost*?p=185511&viewfull=1#post185511

Your hatred for Jews is pathetic.
As a grassrootsconservative you're the one who hates Jews ... unless of course you're merely a fake and phony teabagger.

hanger4
04-15-2014, 07:32 AM
As a grassrootsconservative you're the one who hates Jews ... unless of course you're merely a fake and phony teabagger.OH cool, another left-wing myth right out of the mouth of babes.

exotix
04-15-2014, 07:35 AM
OH cool, another left-wing myth right out of the mouth of babes.
Jews murdered the son of God ... unless of course you're merely a teabag bible-thumper and don't actually believe in the scriptures.

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 07:43 AM
Jews murdered the son of God ... unless of course you're merely a teabag bible-thumper and don't actually believe in the scriptures.


Who are these "teabaggers" you keep babbling about?

As far as the "Jews killing the Son of God", that is a total misconception. The Romans killed Christ and did so in fulfillment of the prophecy. The death of the Son of God was necessary for our salvation. To blame the Jews for doing God's will is somewhat strange.

hanger4
04-15-2014, 07:44 AM
Jews murdered the son of God ... unless of course you're merely a teabag bible-thumper and don't actually believe in the scriptures.Yes the Jews execuded one of their own. Without which the Son of God could not have defeated death to rise up and offer salvation to all. Your point ??

Matty
04-15-2014, 07:46 AM
Who are these "teabaggers" you keep babbling about?

As far as the "Jews killing the Son of God", that is a total misconception. The Romans killed Christ and did so in fulfillment of the prophecy. The death of the Son of God was necessary for our salvation. To blame the Jews for doing God's will is somewhat strange.


Whoa, wait a minute! The Roman's did the deed at the insistence of the Jews! Pilate offered them alternatives but they screamed crucify him! Now that's in the bible!

exotix
04-15-2014, 07:51 AM
Who are these "teabaggers" you keep babbling about?

As far as the "Jews killing the Son of God", that is a total misconception. The Romans killed Christ and did so in fulfillment of the prophecy. The death of the Son of God was necessary for our salvation. To blame the Jews for doing God's will is somewhat strange.
Yes the Jews execuded one of their own. Without which the Son of God could not have defeated death to rise up and offer salvation to all. Your point ??
Yes ?

Lemme know when the Holy Trinnity has brought you salvation.

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 07:52 AM
Whoa, wait a minute! The Roman's did the deed at the insistence of the Jews! Pilate offered them alternatives but they screamed crucify him! Now that's in the bible!

Yes, I know that but either way if Christ had not been sacrificed our salvation would not be assured.

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 07:53 AM
Yes ?

Lemme know when the Holy Trinnity has brought you salvation.

What are you babbling about now? Been drinking that Alabama swamp water again bubba??

exotix
04-15-2014, 07:59 AM
What are you babbling about now? Been drinking that Alabama swamp water again bubba??
I'm merely pointing out that you're expected to live a painful tormented life always in shame of your sins ... always paying the church to absolve you ... never knowing salvation until you die (given you're lucky to last-rites) ... that's what the Bible means with *Christ dying for your Sins*

hanger4
04-15-2014, 08:09 AM
Yes ? Lemme know when the Holy Trinnity has brought you salvation.Biblical facts and prophecy seem to fly right over your head. "Th-Th-Th-Th-Th-... That's all, folks.

hanger4
04-15-2014, 08:12 AM
I'm merely pointing out that you're expected to live a painful tormented life always in shame of your sins ... always paying the church to absolve you ... never knowing salvation until you die (given you're lucky to last-rites) ... that's what the Bible means with *Christ dying for your Sins*Biblical facts and prophecy seem to fly right over your head. "Th-Th-Th-Th-Th-... That's all, folks.

exotix
04-15-2014, 08:17 AM
Biblical facts and prophecy seem to fly right over your head. "Th-Th-Th-Th-Th-... That's all, folks.
*Biblical* faith is a lot better than the other faith ... *from whence it emerged so shall it return* ... as organic mulch.

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 08:27 AM
I'm merely pointing out that you're expected to live a painful tormented life always in shame of your sins ... always paying the church to absolve you ... never knowing salvation until you die (given you're lucky to last-rites) ... that's what the Bible means with *Christ dying for your Sins*


You must be reading the Bible backwards.

Romans 10:9,10 (http://www.merrill.org/kjv1611/bible/romans/010.html) "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Don't see all that stuff you are talking about in this verse. Do you?

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 08:29 AM
And more that does not speak of your guilt and self hatred


In order to be saved you must first realise that you are a sinner and that you cannot make it to heaven on your own good merit.
"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one"
(Romans 3:10 KJV).
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
(Romans 3:23 KJV). Secondly, you must recognize that salvation is made possible only by the grace of God. "
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast"
(Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV). Finally, you must believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins and that he was raised from the dead. In Romans 10:9-10 KJV, Paul gives specific instructions for salvation.
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
In the sixteenth chapter of Acts, the Philippian jailor asked Paul and Silas what he must do in order to be saved. Their response to him still applies today.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved"
(Acts 16:31 KJV).

hanger4
04-15-2014, 08:32 AM
*Biblical* faith is a lot better than the other faith ... *from whence it emerged so shall it return* ... as organic mulch.Then why use it in an attempt to bolster your argument ?? especially when you're clueless ?? just makes you look dumber than you really are.

exotix
04-15-2014, 08:32 AM
You must be reading the Bible backwards.

Romans 10:9,10 (http://www.merrill.org/kjv1611/bible/romans/010.html) "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Don't see all that stuff you are talking about in this verse. Do you?

And more that does not speak of your guilt and self hatred


In order to be saved you must first realise that you are a sinner and that you cannot make it to heaven on your own good merit.
"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one"
(Romans 3:10 KJV).
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
(Romans 3:23 KJV). Secondly, you must recognize that salvation is made possible only by the grace of God. "
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast"
(Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV). Finally, you must believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins and that he was raised from the dead. In Romans 10:9-10 KJV, Paul gives specific instructions for salvation.
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
In the sixteenth chapter of Acts, the Philippian jailor asked Paul and Silas what he must do in order to be saved. Their response to him still applies today.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved"
(Acts 16:31 KJV).

It's all there my man ... from the grace of the immaculate conception to a torturous death.

exotix
04-15-2014, 08:42 AM
Then why use it in an attempt to bolster your argument ?? especially when you're clueless ?? just makes you look dumber than you really are.
Yes ?

What is the *Sermon on the Mount* (and plain) ... and why do Jews to this day disregard or attempt to *rewrite it* as Jewish prophecies and not Christian beliefs ?

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 09:09 AM
Huh???

exotix
04-15-2014, 09:11 AM
Huh???
I asked a simple question boy don't say huh ???

LOL.

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 09:32 AM
Huh?????

Chloe
04-15-2014, 09:40 AM
Yes ?

What is the *Sermon on the Mount* (and plain) ... and why do Jews to this day disregard or attempt to *rewrite it* as Jewish prophecies and not Christian beliefs ?

I wouldn't consider Jesus to be a Christian, but Jesus' followers after his death however are/were Christians. Jesus was Jewish and had Jewish beliefs, except for his claim to be the messiah, and so when he was preaching various things, besides him being the messiah, they were most Jewish beliefs and based on Jewish law.

Ransom
04-15-2014, 09:43 AM
I asked a simple question boy don't say huh ???

LOL.

At least Obama's policies are decreasing the national debt.

exotix
04-15-2014, 09:48 AM
I wouldn't consider Jesus to be a Christian, but Jesus' followers after his death however are/were Christians. Jesus was Jewish and had Jewish beliefs, except for his claim to be the messiah, and so when he was preaching various things, besides him being the messiah, they were most Jewish beliefs and based on Jewish law.
That's not what I asked ... I asked why Jesus' preachings upset the Jews so badly that they called for his tortured killing.

Chloe
04-15-2014, 09:56 AM
That's not what I asked ... I asked why Jesus' preachings upset the Jews so badly that they called for his tortured killing.

It wasn't "Jews" that called for his tortured killing, it was the roman authorities in power and a handful of Jewish leaders that were offended to the point of hatred. Jesus' teachings weren't the issue with those in religious power, it was his claim to be something that he wasn't. I don't at all believe that should warrant a death penalty, but to the roman government that feared powerful upstarts and a Jewish religious elite that also didn't want their authority challenged Jesus paid the price. It's also important to remember that the roman government in that region crucified thousands of people over the years with Jesus just one of the many. He just wasn't as significant in those days as he is now except to his small group of followers.

exotix
04-15-2014, 10:03 AM
It wasn't "Jews" that called for his tortured killing, it was the roman authorities in power and a handful of Jewish leaders that were offended to the point of hatred. Jesus' teachings weren't the issue with those in religious power, it was his claim to be something that he wasn't. I don't at all believe that should warrant a death penalty, but to the roman government that feared powerful upstarts and a Jewish religious elite that also didn't want their authority challenged Jesus paid the price. It's also important to remember that the roman government in that region crucified thousands of people over the years with Jesus just one of the many. He just wasn't as significant in those days as he is now except to his small group of followers.
So what you're saying is that Jesus was merely an *insurrectionist* threatening the Roman outpost of Judea ... which would be a threat to the Roman Empire as a whole ... so in order to pacify the populace ... call for the Jews to render the Crucifixion ... and this would also pacify the Jews ... is this what you're saying ?

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 10:06 AM
Jesus, The Christ, was a challenge to the established religious leaders of the day. He was preaching the old ways were no longer necessary. The establishment wanted to remove him from his influence. The Romans didn't care one way or the other except that by giving the establishment what they wanted they would keep the peace in Israel. Everyone was afraid that Jesus, if not the Son of God, would at the very least cause an uprising against both the Jewish and Roman leadership.

To me, Jews are waiting for something that has already arrived. "He came into his own and his own received him not".

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 10:07 AM
So what you're saying is that Jesus was merely an *insurrectionist* threatening the Roman outpost of Judea ... which would be a threat to the Roman Empire as a whole ... so in order to pacify the populace ... call for the Jews to render the Crucifixion ... and this would also pacify the Jews ... is this what you're saying ?


That is the Jewish position.

Chloe
04-15-2014, 10:10 AM
So what you're saying is that Jesus was merely an *insurrectionist* threatening the Roman outpost of Judea ... which would be a threat to the Roman Empire as a whole ... so in order to pacify the populace ... call for the Jews to render the Crucifixion ... and this would also pacify the Jews ... is this what you're saying ?

Im saying that Jesus' actions and claims caused some chaos amongst the people in power and ultimately resulted in his death. Someone claiming to be a king and a messiah offended both the Roman authorities and the religious authorities. When he refused to stop and began having followers he was silenced in a way that was pretty much acceptable thousands of years ago. Most Jews, non-Jews, and Romans probably didn't even know who Jesus was nor did they care. Jesus basically managed to offend and challenge the wrong people in my opinion. A lot of his messages weren't bad, but it wasn't the monotheistic and peaceful messages that most likely created the situation that he found himself in.

Chloe
04-15-2014, 10:21 AM
Jesus, The Christ, was a challenge to the established religious leaders of the day. He was preaching the old ways were no longer necessary. The establishment wanted to remove him from his influence. The Romans didn't care one way or the other except that by giving the establishment what they wanted they would keep the peace in Israel. Everyone was afraid that Jesus, if not the Son of God, would at the very least cause an uprising against both the Jewish and Roman leadership.

To me, Jews are waiting for something that has already arrived. "He came into his own and his own received him not".

Jesus wasn't the first or last person that claimed to be the Jewish messiah. None of them met the "qualifications" for it based on Jewish law, law that they all claimed to follow.

Ransom
04-15-2014, 10:22 AM
It wasn't "Jews" that called for his tortured killing.....

but they kept shouting, "Crucify, crucify him!

Read you Bible, Chloe. Then comment. Thanks.

Chloe
04-15-2014, 10:25 AM
but they kept shouting, "Crucify, crucify him!

Read you Bible, Chloe. Then comment. Thanks.

Consider the source, ransom. FYI my bible isn't the New Testament. You want me to read the Christian bible and then comment on words that will obviously favor the Christian point of view on the subject. That's a little too convenient. I don't doubt some people wanted him crucified, which he was, but to say it's "the Jews" as if every Jew knew who he was or even cared is naive and misguided.

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 10:57 AM
Jesus wasn't the first or last person that claimed to be the Jewish messiah. None of them met the "qualifications" for it based on Jewish law, law that they all claimed to follow.


Maybe not but it has seemed to resonate with billions of people on this planet that the Jews were wrong. Jesus never claimed to be an earthly king.

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Ransom
04-15-2014, 10:58 AM
I didn't say it's "the Jews." I'm explaining to you that is was more than just Roman governorship. Jesus was led...through a crowd of "some Jews" who beat and spit on him as he passed....others tried to help. Just clarifying for you Chloe, dont get all aflutter.

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 11:02 AM
Consider the source, ransom. FYI my bible isn't the New Testament. You want me to read the Christian bible and then comment on words that will obviously favor the Christian point of view on the subject. That's a little too convenient. I don't doubt some people wanted him crucified, which he was, but to say it's "the Jews" as if every Jew knew who he was or even cared is naive and misguided.


Its quite obvious not all Jews wanted him crucified. He had many followers, which is why he was becoming a threat. The only one's who counted in this narrative were those in the courtyard when He was brought before Pilate. Like your typical Democratic Rally today the crowd was easily swayed and it was loaded with ringers working for the Jewish leadership to whip up the crowd against Jesus.

Of course the "Jewish Bible" will not acknowledge the Divinity of Jesus of Nazareth. To do so would unravel the entire Jewish theology at this point.

exotix
04-15-2014, 11:55 AM
Just In

'Death Penalty on the Table'

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/white-supremacist-could-face-death-penalty-kansas-killings-n80946

Kansas authorities charged Frazier Glenn Cross with capital murder on Tuesday, the early legal steps in what could culminate in the pursuit of the death penalty for the 73-year-old former Ku Klux Klan leader.

He allegedly shot to death 14-year-old Eagle Scout (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/everybody-loved-him-tributes-youngest-shooting-victim-n79731) Reat Underwood and his 69-year-old grandfather, William Corporon, at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City campus in Overland Park.

Then he allegedly drove to Village Shalom, a nearby retirement community, and gunned down Terri LaManno, a 53-year-old children's center worker.


Although Cross seemed to be motivated by his animosity toward Jews -- federal authorities say they have enough evidence to charge him with hate crimes -- none of the victims was Jewish.



Frazier Glenn Cross

http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Frazier-Glenn-Cross-1.jpg

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 12:34 PM
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

The fact his victims were not members of a victim class should be irrelevant. His intent was to kill Jewish people or sympathizers. I would have no objection to ending his life.

Max Rockatansky
04-15-2014, 01:09 PM
Although Cross seemed to be motivated by his animosity toward Jews -- federal authorities say they have enough evidence to charge him with hate crimes -- none of the victims was Jewish.
Which demonstrates the inherent bias and ridiculousness of "hate crimes". Those that lost loved ones deserve as much justice if the families had been Jewish. Is no reason why the lives of Reat Underwood, William Corporon and Terri LaManno are worth less than if they have been Jewish, Black or some other race, religion, etc.

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 06:45 PM
Which demonstrates the inherent bias and ridiculousness of "hate crimes". Those that lost loved ones deserve as much justice if the families had been Jewish. Is no reason why the lives of Reat Underwood, William Corporon and Terri LaManno are worth less than if they have been Jewish, Black or some other race, religion, etc.


I have never understood the concept of "hate crimes". If I kill you you are dead regardless of your race, creed or country of origin. Its like killing a postal worker merits a higher penalty than killing a small business owner. Its stupid and only serves to divide us by class.

Peter1469
04-15-2014, 06:59 PM
I have never understood the concept of "hate crimes". If I kill you you are dead regardless of your race, creed or country of origin. Its like killing a postal worker merits a higher penalty than killing a small business owner. Its stupid and only serves to divide us by class.

It should only be a sentencing enhancer for particularly heinous crimes. It really is that without a law already. Juries are not stupid.

nathanbforrest45
04-15-2014, 07:03 PM
It should only be a sentencing enhancer for particularly heinous crimes. It really is that without a law. Juries are stupid.

Juries are our peers. If juries are stupid then so are we.

Well, I know that is true for some

Peter1469
04-15-2014, 07:07 PM
Juries are our peers. If juries are stupid then so are we.

Well, I know that is true for some


Sorry, I mean not

Bob
04-15-2014, 08:18 PM
At least Obama's policies are decreasing the national debt.

Is he taking credit for sequestration?

Hell his policies drove the deficit to record levels. Bout time he took credit for sequestration.

Peter1469
04-15-2014, 08:22 PM
Is he taking credit for sequestration?

Hell his policies drove the deficit to record levels. Bout time he took credit for sequestration.

He drove the debt to record levels. The deficit is down, although I think some of that is accounting trickery.

Bob
04-15-2014, 08:25 PM
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

The fact his victims were not members of a victim class should be irrelevant. His intent was to kill Jewish people or sympathizers. I would have no objection to ending his life.

I honestly don't like the death penalty yet it seems fair to take his life. I Wish that in this country, nobody took lives. But they take lives during abortions so take lives in other events.

Bob
04-15-2014, 08:30 PM
He drove the debt to record levels. The deficit is down, although I think some of that is accounting trickery.

It has been a long time since I carefully examined the budget. Problem was, Obama seldom has one. And they are so wrong on so many things. If they can purchase toilets for $600 who knows the truth.

Peter1469
04-15-2014, 08:34 PM
It has been a long time since I carefully examined the budget. Problem was, Obama seldom has one. And they are so wrong on so many things. If they can purchase toilets for $600 who knows the truth.
He went over 4 years without a budget. Just continuing resolutions.

That $600 toilet bs is just cover for other spending in the black budget.

Bob
04-15-2014, 08:47 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Bob http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=578869#post578869)
It has been a long time since I carefully examined the budget. Problem was, Obama seldom has one. And they are so wrong on so many things. If they can purchase toilets for $600 who knows the truth.


He went over 4 years without a budget. Just continuing resolutions.

That $600 toilet bs is just cover for other spending in the black budget.

Have you ever studied the Grace Commission report?

I have and from the looks of things, it has gone back to the same old business as usual.

They have no intentions of paying off the national debt. My children will be forced by the sword to pay high taxes.

exotix
04-16-2014, 07:38 AM
I have never understood the concept of "hate crimes". If I kill you you are dead regardless of your race, creed or country of origin. Its like killing a postal worker merits a higher penalty than killing a small business owner. Its stupid and only serves to divide us by class.
Hate Crime in America, by the Numbers

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/snapshot-hate-crime-america-numbers-n81521



http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_16/326251/140415-hate-crime-groups-2010_1260fcf0a0d501d99101fded64282f27.nbcnews-fp-1680-600.jpg

exotix
04-16-2014, 07:44 AM
“There’s absolutely no question that lone wolves are absolutely the most dangerous group out there”


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/kansas-jewish-center-shootings-reveal-new-dangers-lone-wolves-n81331


'We call them 'needle Nazis'



http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_16/326156/140415-frazier-glenn-cross-1859_b8b9060dcb838dbe74b65073e71519c7.nbcnews-fp-800-320.jpg

nathanbforrest45
04-16-2014, 08:06 AM
Hate Crime in America, by the Numbers

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jewish-center-shootings/snapshot-hate-crime-america-numbers-n81521



http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_16/326251/140415-hate-crime-groups-2010_1260fcf0a0d501d99101fded64282f27.nbcnews-fp-1680-600.jpg

Not really sure what this has to do with my post but its heart warming to know you still know how to cut and paste useless information.

Keep up the good work

Ransom
04-16-2014, 08:25 AM
He drove the debt to record levels. The deficit is down, although I think some of that is accounting trickery.

"Down"...after he ballooned it to 1.4 trillion for two years in a row, 1.3 trillion for the next, it's some 600 billion today. Many more billions than when he took office.

Every married person knows this accounting trickery, Pete. Something purchased neither can afford, the 'trick' being "Honey, guess how much I saved us."

Max Rockatansky
04-16-2014, 04:07 PM
I have never understood the concept of "hate crimes". If I kill you you are dead regardless of your race, creed or country of origin. Its like killing a postal worker merits a higher penalty than killing a small business owner. Its stupid and only serves to divide us by class.

Agreed. Murder of another human being is the crime. Penalties can vary by how it was done, such as torture, or whether it was premeditated, in a fight or by accident, but, regardless of a person's race, religion or gender, we're all equal.

Shoey
04-16-2014, 05:25 PM
The 2nd Amendment protects the Right of Self-Defense of the individual against acts of tyranny and aggression. It's the effort and ability of the individual to to defend themselves against acts of aggression that the 2nd Amendment assures when it declares, "The Right to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed." The 2nd Amendment simply accommodates the means necessary for the use of deadly force (such as a firearm) if an imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm exists for the individual. In concordance with the 2nd Amendment (Title 10 › Chapter X › Part 1047 › Section 1047.7. ), individuals reserve the fundamental right to defend himself/herself from imminent threats of death and bodily harm with deadly force if necessary but that is the limit of our inalienable Right of Self Defense.

Title 10 › Chapter X › Part 1047 › Section 1047.7


Use of deadly force.

(a) Deadly force means that force which a reasonable person would consider likely to cause death or serious bodily harm. Its use may be justified only under conditions of extreme necessity, when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be employed. A protective force officer is authorized to use deadly force only when one or more of the following circumstances exists:

(1) Self-Defense. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to protect a protective force officer who reasonably believes himself or herself to be in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm.

(2) Serious offenses against persons. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the commission of a serious offense against a person(s) in circumstances presenting an imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm (e.g. sabotage of an occupied facility by explosives).

(3) Nuclear weapons or nuclear explosive devices. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the theft, sabotage, or unauthorized control of anuclear weapon or nuclear explosive device.

(4) Special nuclear material. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to prevent the theft, sabotage, or unauthorized control of special nuclear material from an area of a fixed site or from a shipment where Category II or greater quantities are known or reasonably believed to be present.

(5) Apprehension. When deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to apprehend or prevent the escape of a person reasonably believed to: (i) have committed an offense of the nature specified in paragraphs (a)(1) through (a)(4) 1 of this section; or (ii) be escaping by use of a weapon or explosive or who otherwise indicates that he or she poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the protective force officer or others unless apprehended without delay.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/10/1047.7

drakey
04-16-2014, 09:01 PM
Will only happen again. Cannot prevent something like this to happen :(

Peter1469
04-16-2014, 09:17 PM
Will only happen again. Cannot prevent something like this to happen :(

If mentally unstable people decided to go on a killing spree they will pick any number of tools to help them achieve their goals. The focus on guns in the US is misplaced.

Max Rockatansky
04-17-2014, 05:09 PM
If mentally unstable people decided to go on a killing spree they will pick any number of tools to help them achieve their goals. The focus on guns in the US is misplaced.

Agreed. Does anyone think Bloomberg will spend $50M to stop the thousands of deaths each year by drunk drivers?......me neither.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/13/us/texas-sxsw-crash/

Austin, Texas (CNN) -- A driver who plowed into a crowded street at a popular festival in Austin this week, killing two people, was charged with capital murder, police said Friday.

Rashad Charjuan Owens allegedly tore through the crowd while drunk, running over people and hitting other cars. At least 23 others were injured.


Police caught Owens, 21, after an alleged foot chase, and Tasered him. His bond was set at $3 million.


Authorities have not released names of the dead, but they were a Dutch man on a bicycle and a local woman on a moped, Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo said.


MassiveMusic, a music agency with offices around the world, posted a statement on its website identifying the company's Amsterdam-based creative director, Steven Craenmehr, as killed Thursday in Austin.


...Twenty-three others were initially hospitalized, some with multiple internal injuries. Most of the victims are in their 20s, said Dr. Christopher Ziebell, medical director at the University Medical Center Brackenridge.