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Ethereal
04-19-2014, 02:04 AM
http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/18/peoria-mayor-calls-out-police-to-track-d

A resident of Peoria, Illinois created a parody twitter account of the mayor, Jim Ardis. Mayor Ardis did not like it, so he sent the local police force to raid his house. Apparently, Ardis has not heard of the Streisand effect, because, predictably, a mass proliferation of HILARIOUS new parody accounts have risen in the old one's place. This is why I love the internet, because it demonstrates the robust nature of decentralized networks. Any politicians who try to control or confront the net will be subjected to a blitzkrieg of ridicule, mockery, and subversion; any attempt to confine or restrict it will have the reverse effect; the net is the invincible medium for liberty and anarchy; fight it at your own peril.

Please, please, please, take the time to peruse the new parody accounts of Mayor Ardis. They are pure comedy gold.

Green Arrow
04-19-2014, 02:26 AM
Jackboot thugs. And somehow this is the ideal system of many on this forum.

patrickt
04-19-2014, 04:31 AM
Hilarious? I suppose. There are people who find Bill Maher hilarious. But, I wonder how hilarious it would be if someone started posting on other political forums under the pseudonym of "Green Arrow". The "parody" could have the political affiliation of the week and cycle through why I am a socialist/tea party supporter/fascist anarchist/left-wing Democrat and so forth. The "parody" could focus on Green Arrows membership in NAMBLA and his participation in PETA black-bag jobs and wet work. What if the parody highlighted Green Arrows winning of the Roman Polanski look-alike contest?

What if someone set up a "WhiteHouseReachOut" twitter account? You know, someone like Chris Mathews who proceeded to pretend he was President Obama and had a crush on a white guy working at MSNBC. Wouldn't that be funny? And it would be really funny when the NSA, IRS, ATF, DOJ, and Federal Department of Education descended on them.

There are still people insisting that Gov. Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her back yard. Is parody safe with idiots like that? And that parody was done by Tina Fey and Amy Poehler on Saturday Night Live where you'd think people would realize it was parody.

Is it parody if someone is impersonating another person on the internet? There was no warning that it was The Onion or Saturday Night Live. Like the Wikipedia entry it purports to be valid. Was it a parody or an impersonation?

Me? It's a tempest in a teapot. I did read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Ardis

I'm convinced there are idiots who will believe it's all true.

CAPUSAFcadet23
04-19-2014, 04:34 AM
http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/18/peoria-mayor-calls-out-police-to-track-d

A resident of Peoria, Illinois created a parody twitter account of the mayor, Jim Ardis. Mayor Ardis did not like it, so he sent the local police force to raid his house. Apparently, Ardis has not heard of the Streisand effect, because, predictably, a mass proliferation of HILARIOUS new parody accounts have risen in the old one's place. This is why I love the internet, because it demonstrates the robust nature of decentralized networks. Any politicians who try to control or confront the net will be subjected to a blitzkrieg of ridicule, mockery, and subversion; any attempt to confine or restrict it will have the reverse effect; the net is the invincible medium for liberty and anarchy; fight it at your own peril.

Please, please, please, take the time to peruse the new parody accounts of Mayor Ardis. They are pure comedy gold.

That mayor is an authoritarian! It won't surprise me if we have another civil war in this nation!

patrickt
04-19-2014, 09:09 AM
Authoritarian? You mean like cancelling people's health insurance and ordering them to buy insurance you want them to have with coverage they don't want or need and a higher cost? Do you mean authoritarian like that? Jackbooted thugs? Are we thinking about the guys dressed like cartoon characters trying to round up someone else's cattle in Nevada?

Someone was impersonating another person on the internet but for liberals, that okay.

Now, I'm curious. If someone steals your credit card information and is using it to make purchases and you call the police, are you being authoritarian? If the police collect evidence, go to a judge, or in this case two judges, and get a court order to search a certain location and seize credit cards, business receipts, and other evidence, are they being the jackbooted thugs?

And what do you call the people who are committing the fraud? Oh, right, comedians. Hey, it works for Bill Maher.

It's gets hard to keep it all straight.

Alyosha
04-19-2014, 09:26 AM
Hilarious? I suppose. There are people who find Bill Maher hilarious. But, I wonder how hilarious it would be if someone started posting on other political forums under the pseudonym of "Green Arrow". The "parody" could have the political affiliation of the week and cycle through why I am a socialist/tea party supporter/fascist anarchist/left-wing Democrat and so forth. The "parody" could focus on Green Arrows membership in NAMBLA and his participation in PETA black-bag jobs and wet work. What if the parody highlighted Green Arrows winning of the Roman Polanski look-alike contest?

What if someone set up a "WhiteHouseReachOut" twitter account? You know, someone like Chris Mathews who proceeded to pretend he was President Obama and had a crush on a white guy working at MSNBC. Wouldn't that be funny? And it would be really funny when the NSA, IRS, ATF, DOJ, and Federal Department of Education descended on them.

There are still people insisting that Gov. Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her back yard. Is parody safe with idiots like that? And that parody was done by Tina Fey and Amy Poehler on Saturday Night Live where you'd think people would realize it was parody.

Is it parody if someone is impersonating another person on the internet? There was no warning that it was The Onion or Saturday Night Live. Like the Wikipedia entry it purports to be valid. Was it a parody or an impersonation?

Me? It's a tempest in a teapot. I did read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Ardis

I'm convinced there are idiots who will believe it's all true.


So we should go to jail for humor? Wow.

Cthulhu
04-19-2014, 10:03 AM
Now, I'm curious. If someone steals your credit card information and is using it to make purchases and you call the police, are you being authoritarian? If the police collect evidence, go to a judge, or in this case two judges, and get a court order to search a certain location and seize credit cards, business receipts, and other evidence, are they being the jackbooted thugs?

And what do you call the people who are committing the fraud? Oh, right, comedians. Hey, it works for Bill Maher.

It's gets hard to keep it all straight.

Blarg. One obviously has a victim and has broken reasonable laws regarding fraud and theft. The other does not. Although I suppose he might have grounds for a suit regarding character defamation.

But that would be civil, not criminal if I'm not mistaken.

Alyosha
04-19-2014, 11:24 AM
Blarg. One obviously has a victim and has broken reasonable laws regarding fraud and theft. The other does not. Although I suppose he might have grounds for a suit regarding character defamation.

But that would be civil, not criminal if I'm not mistaken.

The Supreme Court has upheld that mockery of public figures is protected by the First Amendment.

Ethereal
04-19-2014, 11:30 AM
Hilarious? I suppose. There are people who find Bill Maher hilarious. But, I wonder how hilarious it would be if someone started posting on other political forums under the pseudonym of "Green Arrow". The "parody" could have the political affiliation of the week and cycle through why I am a socialist/tea party supporter/fascist anarchist/left-wing Democrat and so forth. The "parody" could focus on Green Arrows membership in NAMBLA and his participation in PETA black-bag jobs and wet work. What if the parody highlighted Green Arrows winning of the Roman Polanski look-alike contest?

What if someone set up a "WhiteHouseReachOut" twitter account? You know, someone like Chris Mathews who proceeded to pretend he was President Obama and had a crush on a white guy working at MSNBC. Wouldn't that be funny? And it would be really funny when the NSA, IRS, ATF, DOJ, and Federal Department of Education descended on them.

There are still people insisting that Gov. Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her back yard. Is parody safe with idiots like that? And that parody was done by Tina Fey and Amy Poehler on Saturday Night Live where you'd think people would realize it was parody.

Is it parody if someone is impersonating another person on the internet? There was no warning that it was The Onion or Saturday Night Live. Like the Wikipedia entry it purports to be valid. Was it a parody or an impersonation?

Me? It's a tempest in a teapot. I did read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Ardis

I'm convinced there are idiots who will believe it's all true.

Everything you see or hear on the internet, unless expressly stated otherwise by the purveyor of the information, should be viewed as potentially false or misleading. Arresting someone because people in general are too dumb to identify an obvious parody is just ridiculous.

Alyosha
04-19-2014, 11:32 AM
Authoritarian? You mean like cancelling people's health insurance and ordering them to buy insurance you want them to have with coverage they don't want or need and a higher cost? Do you mean authoritarian like that? Jackbooted thugs? Are we thinking about the guys dressed like cartoon characters trying to round up someone else's cattle in Nevada?

Someone was impersonating another person on the internet but for liberals, that okay.

Now, I'm curious. If someone steals your credit card information and is using it to make purchases and you call the police, are you being authoritarian? If the police collect evidence, go to a judge, or in this case two judges, and get a court order to search a certain location and seize credit cards, business receipts, and other evidence, are they being the jackbooted thugs?

And what do you call the people who are committing the fraud? Oh, right, comedians. Hey, it works for Bill Maher.

It's gets hard to keep it all straight.

There is more than one authoritarian action, just like there is more than one type of juice or sneakers or coffee brands or....

Ethereal
04-19-2014, 11:37 AM
Authoritarian? You mean like cancelling people's health insurance and ordering them to buy insurance you want them to have with coverage they don't want or need and a higher cost? Do you mean authoritarian like that? Jackbooted thugs? Are we thinking about the guys dressed like cartoon characters trying to round up someone else's cattle in Nevada?

Yes, those are examples of authoritarian conduct.


Someone was impersonating another person on the internet but for liberals, that okay.

I'm not a "liberal", I just think it's dumb to arrest a person for doing parody on the internet. It's not his problem if people take everything they see or hear on the internet at face value.


Now, I'm curious. If someone steals your credit card information and is using it to make purchases and you call the police, are you being authoritarian? If the police collect evidence, go to a judge, or in this case two judges, and get a court order to search a certain location and seize credit cards, business receipts, and other evidence, are they being the jackbooted thugs?

And what do you call the people who are committing the fraud? Oh, right, comedians. Hey, it works for Bill Maher.

It's gets hard to keep it all straight.

What a ridiculous comparison. A business transaction is a two-way street, internet parody does not require anyone to listen or to take the speech seriously.

Green Arrow
04-19-2014, 12:37 PM
Hilarious? I suppose. There are people who find Bill Maher hilarious. But, I wonder how hilarious it would be if someone started posting on other political forums under the pseudonym of "Green Arrow". The "parody" could have the political affiliation of the week and cycle through why I am a socialist/tea party supporter/fascist anarchist/left-wing Democrat and so forth. The "parody" could focus on Green Arrows membership in NAMBLA and his participation in PETA black-bag jobs and wet work. What if the parody highlighted Green Arrows winning of the Roman Polanski look-alike contest?

What if someone set up a "WhiteHouseReachOut" twitter account? You know, someone like Chris Mathews who proceeded to pretend he was President Obama and had a crush on a white guy working at MSNBC. Wouldn't that be funny? And it would be really funny when the NSA, IRS, ATF, DOJ, and Federal Department of Education descended on them.

There are still people insisting that Gov. Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her back yard. Is parody safe with idiots like that? And that parody was done by Tina Fey and Amy Poehler on Saturday Night Live where you'd think people would realize it was parody.

Is it parody if someone is impersonating another person on the internet? There was no warning that it was The Onion or Saturday Night Live. Like the Wikipedia entry it purports to be valid. Was it a parody or an impersonation?

Me? It's a tempest in a teapot. I did read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Ardis

I'm convinced there are idiots who will believe it's all true.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the guy who wants us to believe that cops are good guys. The guy defending the government for arresting a guy over free speech on the internet.

I'm not surprised though, pattycake. It makes sense that someone as angry and humorless as you would try to shut down anything that could be construed as funny.

patrickt
04-19-2014, 05:15 PM
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the guy who wants us to believe that cops are good guys. The guy defending the government for arresting a guy over free speech on the internet.

I'm not surprised though, pattycake. It makes sense that someone as angry and humorless as you would try to shut down anything that could be construed as funny.

I see Green Arrow is going for parody. He lies a lot, too. Show me an example of saying the police are the good guys or kiss my ass, in absentia, please. Some police officers should be in prison and some are, in fact, good guys. The percentage of police officers who are good guys exceeds, in my opinion, the percentage of politicians who are good guys or the percentage of socialists who are even moderately decent.

It's amazing that someone arrested for impersonating another person on the internet is an assault on the 1st Amendment and this is from liberals and socialists who want the Constitution done away with. Amazing. Hate the 1st Amendment and then whine that it won't protect impersonation.

Green Arrow said: "The most horrible vestige of discrimination is that faced by myself and my friends in NAMBLA. We must be freed." Gotta love that parody, don't you?

Green Arrow
04-19-2014, 05:19 PM
I see Green Arrow is going for parody. He lies a lot, too. Show me an example of saying the police are the good guys or kiss my ass.

Green Arrow is bitter because NAMBLA doesn't get tax exempt status and as a charter member that chaps his ass. That's liberal humor.

I don't lie, patrick. You do, though, and for some reason feel like you have to project your (many) faults onto others.

patrickt
04-19-2014, 06:00 PM
I don't lie, patrick. You do, though, and for some reason feel like you have to project your (many) faults onto others.

You lied in your post. In fact, you often lie. What political party are you this week? I wondered why a lying weasel would be a moderator and was told that it simply had to do with having your days free to be on line.

So, find an instance where I promoted police officers en masse as good guys or kiss my ass as a lying weasel.

Green Arrow
04-19-2014, 06:02 PM
You lied in your post. In fact, you often lie. What political party are you this week? I wondered why a lying weasel would be a moderator and was told that it simply had to do with having your days free to be on line.

So, find an instance where I promoted police officers en masse as good guys or kiss my ass as a lying weasel.

Why don't you start by showing me where I've ever promoted NAMBLA. Or is it okay for you to call me a pedophile, but not okay for me to suggest that you are very pro-cop?

Matty
04-19-2014, 06:05 PM
You lied in your post. In fact, you often lie. What political party are you this week? I wondered why a lying weasel would be a moderator and was told that it simply had to do with having your days free to be on line.

So, find an instance where I promoted police officers en masse as good guys or kiss my ass as a lying weasel.
Really! We can get along just fine in society without police. We can police ourselves. Who needs police? You must agree with this or be called a scum sucking cop lover. Please sir get with the program! :)

Matty
04-19-2014, 06:06 PM
The worst thing you can do today is be pro cop. Who needs a damn cop?

Green Arrow
04-19-2014, 06:10 PM
Really! We can get along just fine in society without police. We can police ourselves. Who needs police? You must agree with this or be called a scum sucking cop lover. Please sir get with the program! :)

Take that up with patrick. He's the one that seems to think being called a cop supporter is an insult. He's freaking out about it.

Max Rockatansky
04-19-2014, 07:39 PM
The worst thing you can do today is be pro cop. Who needs a damn cop?

We need good, honest police. Not Rambo wannabe Barney Fifes like the Sheriff of Monterey County and his Deputy "Fife": http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/monterey/air-force-captains-attorney-questions-monterey-county-deputys-history/25520658



ATTORNEY QUESTIONS MONTEREY COUNTY... (http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/monterey/air-force-captains-attorney-questions-monterey-county-deputys-history/25523986)


MONTEREY COUNTY DEPUTIES MISTAKE AIR FORCE CAPTAIN FOR... (http://www.ksbw.com/news/carmel-air-force-captain-arrested-after-burglary-call-at-his-home/25486372)

http://www.ksbw.com/image/view/-/25496604/medRes/2/-/h/60/w/80/-/13u95p0z/-/soldierrrr-jpg.jpg (http://www.ksbw.com/news/carmel-air-force-captain-arrested-after-burglary-call-at-his-home/25486372)
U.S. Air Force Capt. Nicolas Aquino was tackled and handcuffed at his own house in Carmel because a Monterey County sheriff's deputy thought he was a burglar.
MORE (http://www.ksbw.com/news/carmel-air-force-captain-arrested-after-burglary-call-at-his-home/25486372)


AIR FORCE CAPTAIN'S CONFRONTATION WITH MONTEREY COUNTY... (http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/monterey/-air-force-captains-confrontation-with-monterey-county-deputies-debated/25504470)

http://www.ksbw.com/image/view/-/25504472/medRes/2/-/h/60/w/80/-/rsfnl8z/-/img-AIR-FORCE-ARREST-FOLO.jpg (http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/monterey/-air-force-captains-confrontation-with-monterey-county-deputies-debated/25504470)
U.S. Air Force Capt. Nicolas Aquino was tackled and handcuffed at his own house in Carmel because a Monterey County sheriff's deputy thought he was a burglar.
MORE (http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/monterey/-air-force-captains-confrontation-with-monterey-county-deputies-debated/25504470)

VIDEO: Aquino's lawyer questions deputy's history (http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/monterey/air-force-captains-attorney-questions-monterey-county-deputys-history/25523986)
Capt. Nicolas Aquino is being charged with resisting arrest and obstructing a peace officer, and on Wednesday, a judge declined to throw the charges out.

Last December, Aquino was at home when one of his neighbors called 911 to report a burglar was lurking outside Aquino's Carmel house.

When Deputy Ivan Rodriguez arrived, he thought Aquino was the burglar. Aquino explained that he lived there and was in the military, but the deputy demanded to see ID.

"All he said was, 'I need to see your ID.' At that moment I'm like, 'Excuse me sir, but who are you? And why are you here?" Aquino told KSBW. "He grabs my wrist, puts me in a front guillotine, slams my head into the ground and spins around and does a rear-naked choke."

In the incident report, the deputy wrote that while sitting on top of Aquino, "I yelled at the male to put his hands out to his sides. The male never complied. He was beginning to draw them in closer to the center of his body. Afraid that the male was going to reach for a weapon, I contemplated disengaging from him, drawing my own firearm and taking aim."

Monterey County Sheriff Scott Miller backed the actions of Rodriguez.


Read more: http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/monterey/air-force-captains-attorney-questions-monterey-county-deputys-history/25520658#ixzz2zNlpyiNw

Is it too much to hold our public officials and our Law Enforcement Officers to a higher standard of conduct?


This is from the Monterey Sheriff's office website:
http://www.co.monterey.ca.us/SHERIFF/

Our main mission is the protection of life and property of citizens in Monterey County and the operation of the County Jail. We shall provide quality law enforcement service to everyone in Monterey County with dedication, honor and commitment.We shall faithfully serve the people whose laws we enforce and that in so doing we will never violate the public’s trust placed in our positions. We shall demand of ourselves the highest standards of honesty and integrity.

Is it too much to expect this Sheriff to live up to his own words?

patrickt
04-19-2014, 07:51 PM
Oops, Green Arrow is lying again. I guess when you're a wannabee politician it gets to be a habit.

If we don't need cops then the solution is awfully simple. Don't call one. The majority of the calls I was getting the year before I retired were calls we never got the first year I was working. "My neighbor's boy broke my window." In 1966, the neighbor with the broken window would have talked to the neighbor with the son and it would be handled without the police. Not any more. A man called threatening to kill his neighbor because the neighbor cut two limbs off his shrub. it's pitiful.

A lot of the calls I went on were ones I wished no one had ever called in.

And I understand those who think impersonating someone on the internet for the purpose of ridiculing them is just good old-fashioned liberal fun. I'm thinking about writing a letter to Sen. Reid asking him to let me be an intern and promising that I could do everything that Monica Lewinsky did and signing it with Green Arrow's name and address. Wouldn't that be funny?

Matty
04-19-2014, 08:01 PM
We need good, honest police. Not Rambo wannabe Barney Fifes like the Sheriff of Monterey County and his Deputy "Fife": http://www.ksbw.com/news/central-california/monterey/air-force-captains-attorney-questions-monterey-county-deputys-history/25520658


Is it too much to hold our public officials and our Law Enforcement Officers to a higher standard of conduct?


This is from the Monterey Sheriff's office website:
http://www.co.monterey.ca.us/SHERIFF/


Is it too much to expect this Sheriff to live up to his own words?


Why? you don't make your prez do it!

Alyosha
04-19-2014, 08:05 PM
I see Green Arrow is going for parody. He lies a lot, too. Show me an example of saying the police are the good guys or kiss my ass, in absentia, please. Some police officers should be in prison and some are, in fact, good guys. The percentage of police officers who are good guys exceeds, in my opinion, the percentage of politicians who are good guys or the percentage of socialists who are even moderately decent.

It's amazing that someone arrested for impersonating another person on the internet is an assault on the 1st Amendment and this is from liberals and socialists who want the Constitution done away with. Amazing. Hate the 1st Amendment and then whine that it won't protect impersonation.

Green Arrow said: "The most horrible vestige of discrimination is that faced by myself and my friends in NAMBLA. We must be freed." Gotta love that parody, don't you?

Thats not parody. It's not even funny.

Alyosha
04-19-2014, 08:06 PM
Why? you don't make your prez do it!

All of them should be held accountable. To whom much is given, much is expected.

Max Rockatansky
04-19-2014, 09:33 PM
Why? you don't make your prez do it!

I expect every elected official to live up to it regardless of their skin color or political flavor.

Green Arrow
04-19-2014, 11:17 PM
Oops, Green Arrow is lying again. I guess when you're a wannabee politician it gets to be a habit.

If we don't need cops then the solution is awfully simple. Don't call one. The majority of the calls I was getting the year before I retired were calls we never got the first year I was working. "My neighbor's boy broke my window." In 1966, the neighbor with the broken window would have talked to the neighbor with the son and it would be handled without the police. Not any more. A man called threatening to kill his neighbor because the neighbor cut two limbs off his shrub. it's pitiful.

A lot of the calls I went on were ones I wished no one had ever called in.

And I understand those who think impersonating someone on the internet for the purpose of ridiculing them is just good old-fashioned liberal fun. I'm thinking about writing a letter to Sen. Reid asking him to let me be an intern and promising that I could do everything that Monica Lewinsky did and signing it with Green Arrow's name and address. Wouldn't that be funny?

What did I lie about, patrick? Answer: nothing. You, on the other hand, can't open your damn mouth without lying and looking like an idiot. So how about you just go to hell.

ChoppedLiver
04-20-2014, 12:13 AM
You, on the other hand, can't open your damn mouth without lying and looking like an idiot. So how about you just go to hell.

Try not looking in the mirror when posting, M'kay? It's embarrassing.

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