Republicans respond to good Obamacare news: 'Lalala, we can't hear you!'

[Cigar]

Republicans respond to good Obamacare news: 'Lalala, we can't hear you!' (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/18/1292956/-Republicans-respond-to-good-Obamacare-news-Lalala-we-can-t-hear-nbsp-you)
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Obamcare enrollments exceeded all expectations, premiums are going to be lower than predicted, millions of Americans now have health coverage. So, as President Obama said Thursday, in announcing 8 million enrollments (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/17/1292771/-President-Obama-to-make-statement-at-daily-press-briefing), "It's well past time to move on as a country."

Right? Ha.

No, we can't. RT @ZekeJMiller: Obama: "I think we can all agree that it's well past time to move on."
— @NRCC (http://twitter.com/NRCC) Oh, but that's not all:

http://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1683226436/SRC_twittericon_2012__2__normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/Senate_GOPs/statuses/456901727321485312)From dropped coverage, to increased health care costs, to less access to preferred doctors, #ObamaCare is hurting millions of Americans.
— @Senate_GOPs (http://twitter.com/Senate_GOPs)
http://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/56452868/starcheck_normal.gif (https://twitter.com/FreedomWorks/statuses/456890005978611712)Tell Congress to stop spending $17 million of your tax dollars every month on #Obamacare ads! http://t.co/... (http://t.co/Z8uZmSBW2j)
— @FreedomWorks (http://twitter.com/FreedomWorks)

Or in the words of a Republican in House leadership: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-hails-8-million-enrollees-for-insurance-under-federal-health-care-law/2014/04/17/db1892b2-c670-11e3-bf7a-be01a9b69cf1_story.html?hpid=z1)


House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy said Obama was “right” when he said the GOP refuses to accept the Affordable Care Act “as settled law.”


“Republicans cannot and will not accept this law,” McCarthy said in a statement.


For Republicans, no Obamacare news is good Obamacare news. It's just another opportunity to roll out the talking points, the "unskewing" (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/17/1292773/-House-Republicans-try-their-hand-at-unskewing-Obamacare) and the conspiracy theories about how the numbers really can't be all that good. Because everybody knows, this law is doomed to collapse under its own weight. That's their theory, and they're sticking to it all the way through November.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/18/1292956/-Republicans-respond-to-good-Obamacare-news-Lalala-we-can-t-hear-nbsp-you?detail=email

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[keymanjim]

I feel the same way about 'good obamacare' as I do about unicorns, leprechauns and honest politicians.

[Cigar]

I feel the same way about 'good obamacare' as I do about unicorns, leprechauns and honest politicians.

Laugh at all the time? :laugh:

[Cigar]

Here’s how we got to 8 million Obamacare signups

After a two-week extension of the Obamacare open enrollment deadline, the White House announced today that 8 million people have signed up through the health-care law's insurance marketplaces since it opened in October. That means about 900,000 people picked a health plan in the two weeks since the end of the original March 31 enrollment deadline.

When signups hit 7 million on April 1, I wrote about why that number alone didn't necessarily say whether the Affordable Care Act would succeed. The same goes for the newly announced 8 million signups.

Now that we pretty much have the final tally (a few state-run exchanges, including the District's, are still allowing enrollment through the end of the month), here's what enrollment actually looked like vs. expectations set by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services in September before the insurance marketplaces opened.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/04/17/heres-how-we-got-to-8-million-obamacare-signups/?hpid=z1

[Matty]

Tell us why we should believe the latest in a long string of lies?

[Cigar]

Tell us why we should believe the latest in a long string of lies?

I think you got it all wrong ... it looks like Millions of American Citizens don't give a Shit if you believe it or not.

It means nothing and stops nothing. :grin:

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[Matty]

As usual you got nothing, lies backed up with bullshit!

[Cigar]

Good News for Obamacare Is Bad News for Conservative Pundits
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There is a double standard in the media. When bad news comes up with respect to Democrats or liberals, the corporate media relentlessly plays this up. But when facts arise that contradict right wing talking points, the corporate right wing media, simply pretends that they do not exist.



Conservatives were sure at every turn that Obamacare would fail, but as the numbers roll in, those convictions are looking increasingly ideological.

First they said nobody would enroll. Then they said first-year premiums would be through the roof. And later, they warned of a "death spiral," wherein premiums would go up uncontrollably. My colleague Sam Baker has written an excellent analysis of the situation, the upshot of which is that Obamacare is on a winning streak.

The next great frontier of conservative hyperbole concerns premiums for 2015, with critics warning that costs will double or even triple next year.

As of this week, we have good evidence to the contrary. Health insurance premium rates are expected go up just 7 percent—a rate of increase much lower than what critics were predicting. And the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office is predicting that premium hikes will be relatively modest.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/good-news-for-obamacare-is-bad-news-for-conservative-pundits-20140418

Oops :laugh:

[hanger4]

Same ol sh*t, different day Cigar. When Obama said 8 mill. enrolled he lied. 8 mill may or may not have signed up. They know the #'s, why hide them ?? How many of the younger demographic that's needed to pay for ACA have enrolled ?? How many have enrolled that didn't have insurance before ?? HHS knows all these #'s Cigar, why are they holding on to them if ACA is such a success ??

[Cigar]

Same ol sh*t, different day Cigar. When Obama said 8 mill. enrolled he lied. 8 mill may or may not have signed up. They know the #'s, why hide them ?? How many of the younger demographic that's needed to pay for ACA have enrolled ?? How many have enrolled that didn't have insurance before ?? HHS knows all these #'s Cigar, why are they holding on to them if ACA is such a success ??

So tell me ... what's an Number you will believe?

[Ransom]

He forces Sebelius to resign and then goes on an "it's working" tour.

If it was truly working......then you must consider this move by Obama as downright misogynistic. He takes the credit himself? This is Sebelius's credit if it is indeed working! A woman who was grilled through Senate and House question sessions, was allowed to take all of the brunt of criticisms upon its' release. The President accepts HHS' I quit request and then some observers would like us to believe you're due a victory lap.

I mean......you cannot make this circus side show up....pure political entertainment.

HHS quit because it's all "working?"

We gotta sayin here in the South, don't pee down my back and tell me it's rainin. How stupid do they think people are? Who would belie.......ve......this....

never mind

[Venus]

Does anyone know how many uninsured signed up?

How many young healthy people signed up?

How many had to sign up because they lost their health insurance (the one they liked and thought they could keep)?

Do you have a graph or a cartoon that may answer these question cigar?

[Peter1469]

A pre-packaged talking point. I bet Cigar got it posted in under 30 seconds.


And I get on the special email list?


Republicans respond to good Obamacare news: 'Lalala, we can't hear you!' (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/18/1292956/-Republicans-respond-to-good-Obamacare-news-Lalala-we-can-t-hear-nbsp-you)


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Obamcare enrollments exceeded all expectations, premiums are going to be lower than predicted, millions of Americans now have health coverage. So, as President Obama said Thursday, in announcing 8 million enrollments (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/17/1292771/-President-Obama-to-make-statement-at-daily-press-briefing), "It's well past time to move on as a country."

Right? Ha.

No, we can't. RT @ZekeJMiller: Obama: "I think we can all agree that it's well past time to move on."
— @NRCC (http://twitter.com/NRCC) Oh, but that's not all:

http://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1683226436/SRC_twittericon_2012__2__normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/Senate_GOPs/statuses/456901727321485312)From dropped coverage, to increased health care costs, to less access to preferred doctors, #ObamaCare is hurting millions of Americans.
— @Senate_GOPs (http://twitter.com/Senate_GOPs)
http://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/56452868/starcheck_normal.gif (https://twitter.com/FreedomWorks/statuses/456890005978611712)Tell Congress to stop spending $17 million of your tax dollars every month on #Obamacare ads! http://t.co/... (http://t.co/Z8uZmSBW2j)
— @FreedomWorks (http://twitter.com/FreedomWorks)

Or in the words of a Republican in House leadership: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-hails-8-million-enrollees-for-insurance-under-federal-health-care-law/2014/04/17/db1892b2-c670-11e3-bf7a-be01a9b69cf1_story.html?hpid=z1)

House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy said Obama was “right” when he said the GOP refuses to accept the Affordable Care Act “as settled law.”


“Republicans cannot and will not accept this law,” McCarthy said in a statement.



For Republicans, no Obamacare news is good Obamacare news. It's just another opportunity to roll out the talking points, the "unskewing" (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/17/1292773/-House-Republicans-try-their-hand-at-unskewing-Obamacare) and the conspiracy theories about how the numbers really can't be all that good. Because everybody knows, this law is doomed to collapse under its own weight. That's their theory, and they're sticking to it all the way through November.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/18/1292956/-Republicans-respond-to-good-Obamacare-news-Lalala-we-can-t-hear-nbsp-you?detail=email

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[Cigar]

Does anyone know how many uninsured signed up?

How many young healthy people signed up?

How many had to sign up because they lost their health insurance (the one they liked and thought they could keep)?

Do you have a graph or a cartoon that may answer these question cigar?

Don't have to ... it was posted last week, but you choose to deny or ignore it :laugh:

[Peter1469]

Those are the correct questions. How many uninsured signed up. Also how many of the young people bought their own policies vice hanging out on mom and dad's policy. We will know pretty soon. The insurance company bean counters are crunching numbers. I predict skyrocketing costs for health insurance.


Does anyone know how many uninsured signed up?

How many young healthy people signed up?

How many had to sign up because they lost their health insurance (the one they liked and thought they could keep)?

Do you have a graph or a cartoon that may answer these question cigar?

[Peter1469]

Was it posted last week? Or just cut and pasted? :smiley:


Don't have to ... it was posted last week, but you choose to deny or ignore it :laugh:

[Cigar]

Was it posted last week? Or just cut and pasted? :smiley:

I don't invent The Facts, I just post them :laugh:

[Peter1469]

I don't invent The Facts, I just post them :laugh:

I know. Cut and pasted.

[Kalkin]

I don't invent The Facts, I just post them :laugh:
You didn't invent the bucket, you just carry the water.

[Perianne]

Obama sucks.

[Akula]

Obama sucks.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
There have been rumors about him being gay for years. ;)

[Kalkin]

Obama sucks.
Truer words were never spoken.

[Venus]

Don't have to ... it was posted last week, but you choose to deny or ignore it :laugh:


I wasn't really on last week.

Care to point me in the right direction...

[Venus]

Those are the correct questions. How many uninsured signed up. Also how many of the young people bought their own policies vice hanging out on mom and dad's policy. We will know pretty soon. The insurance company bean counters are crunching numbers. I predict skyrocketing costs for health insurance.


the devil is in the details, and they aren't giving up any details

[Cigar]

I wasn't really on last week.

Care to point me in the right direction...

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[Matty]

At least not until after 2016 elections!

[Cigar]

At least not until after 2016 elections!

Keep Hope Alive :grin:

[Venus]

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I'm not going fishing when I know I won't catch anything.

[Bob]

Here’s how we got to 8 million Obamacare signups


I don't care. All it means to me is that some fat cat insurance companies signed up fools.

They were misled to accept they were forced by Obama to agree to terms with insurance companies.

3 cheers for what Obama did for the insurance industry.

[Bob]

I heard Obama claim that 60 million had no insurance

OK, we know a lot got dumped by insurance companies.

We know a lot were told their policy was not good by Obama.

Do the math

If we knew the correct figure for those dumped and those told the policy was worthless, we could get down to actual people that never had insurance that signed up.

Let's go by some better numbers.

Maybe 1 or two million not then covered but not on the list of dumped or had bad policies are left.

Let's give Obama 2 million of the 60 million since those were his actual targets.

We are looking at close to 4 percent.

And you left wingers are bragging?

Why?

[Kalkin]

Keep Hope Alive :grin:
Don't forget Change! Might as well keep the whole charade intact.

[Bob]

Hope and change
Hope or change
Hope he changed
Hope he will finish office before the term ends.

[hanger4]

Don't have to ... it was posted last week, but you choose to deny or ignore it :laugh:Must have been the LA times article where the author lied about the Rand Corp. study. You were shown your mistake Cigar, you have no facts.

[Mainecoons]

Gee did they do that when it was discovered that over half of the sign ups in Georgia haven't paid their bill?

Those crazy Republicans. :rofl:

[Cigar]

Must have been the LA times article where the author lied about the Rand Corp. study. You were shown your mistake Cigar, you have no facts.

And The FACTS show, the numbers are going UP not DOWN on Citizens getting Obamacare :laugh:.

[Akula]

link? hahahahahaha...

source? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....


Just kidding. I know you don't have any.

[zelmo1234]

So tell me ... what's an Number you will believe?

Well here is the first state to report the actual numbers?

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/376152/whoops-half-georgias-insurance-enrollees-havent-paid-yet-jim-geraghty

Lets hope that the other 49 states have better luck?

I will believe the actual numbers, you know the ones that they haven't got a clue about?

[zelmo1234]

He forces Sebelius to resign and then goes on an "it's working" tour.

If it was truly working......then you must consider this move by Obama as downright misogynistic. He takes the credit himself? This is Sebelius's credit if it is indeed working! A woman who was grilled through Senate and House question sessions, was allowed to take all of the brunt of criticisms upon its' release. The President accepts HHS' I quit request and then some observers would like us to believe you're due a victory lap.

I mean......you cannot make this circus side show up....pure political entertainment.

HHS quit because it's all "working?"

We gotta sayin here in the South, don't pee down my back and tell me it's rainin. How stupid do they think people are? Who would belie.......ve......this....

never mind

Liberals have spent the last 5 decades trying to destroy the educations system so they have the perfect idiot to control? and they have spent hundreds of billions making sure that the indoctrination is complete

They thought they had the people right where they wanted them, and then they all show up to support Bundy and won't buy the ACA numbers?

And you wonder why liberals have been in a bad mode?

[Cigar]

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[Mainecoons]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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[zelmo1234]

Here is the real problem!

Republicans have drawn a line in the sand and are not going to budge on many of the issues in the ACA though there are some things that could help!

Democrats know that this thing is a turd and have tried to postpone all of the really crappy stuff until after the next presidential elections. But the people still know it is there.

What they are hoping I have no clue? But at the very least 90% of the law needs major reform not just a little tweaking.

With both sides firmly entrenched in their positions it is not very likely that the American people will come out a winner in this one! That is the only thing that can be assumed with a high rate of probability!

[lynn]

Since we cannot obtain a breakdown of the numbers that never had insurance, they very least they can do is tell us how many of the 7 million that are under age 18 now are insured. If this administration cannot even accomplish at the very least coverage for all children to instill a little faith from the public's viewpoint but then again they really don't give a S***.

[Peter1469]

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for honest numbers from this administration. :wink:


Since we cannot obtain a breakdown of the numbers that never had insurance, they very least they can do is tell us how many of the 7 million that are under age 18 now are insured. If this administration cannot even accomplish at the very least coverage for all children to instill a little faith from the public's viewpoint but then again they really don't give a S***.

[Venus]

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this cartoon is wrong

One of Obama's speech writers came up with the term "Obamacare".

[patrickt]

The Democrats are welcome to all the credit for Obamacare no matter how hard they run away. Liberals will be like the drunk being arrested who said, "Aren't you going after the guy who shit in my pants?"

[texan]

I don;t trust anyone on this issue anymore. I am just gonna wait this out and see what happens.

[Common Sense]

this cartoon is wrong

One of Obama's speech writers came up with the term "Obamacare".

It was actually a health care lobbyist who came up with it...then the Romney campaign started using it. That was back in 2007.

[texan]

Actually I started it.

[zelmo1234]

Actually I started it.

You know I thought that was YOU!!!! :)