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Bob
04-24-2014, 10:08 PM
This came to me via mail so there is no link included. The article explains the source.

Florida Today

Florida Today


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DON GILLELAND

GUEST COLUMNIST

May 24, 2014





Abolish Florida’s archaic death penalty

Life sentence is cheaper, more humane

It is irrefutable, folks — we kill a lot of innocent people. If that wasn’t bad enough, because of our lengthy appeals process, killing people is very expensive. It is time to bring a little more sanity to our punitive approach.

From the beginning of time, we have said: “It is wrong to kill, and to demonstrate how wrong it is to kill, we will kill you if you kill.” Still, throughout history, men and women have murdered each other.

The traditional humanists conclude that capital punishment is not a deterrent. Of course, they are wrong in a significant sense. There is no recidivism among the executed; they never kill again.

However, it is no easy matter to decide who should be executed. There isn’t much uniformity in sentencing practices in our 50 states.

An individual can be executed in one state for a crime that is not a capital offense in another state. It also is deplorable that three people found guilty of the same crime can be given three different sentences. There have even been cases where an actual murderer was given a prison sentence while his two accomplices were executed.

While there seems to be little uniformity in sentencing, the greater problem is that it is so difficult to play God. Hugo Adam Bedau, in his remarkably comprehensive book, “The Death Penalty in America,” documented 74 instances in which we executed individuals who were later proved to be innocent of the crime for which they were executed.

The manner of their post-mortem vindication took the form of everything from the conventional deathbed confession by the real culprit, to the grimly ironic discovery of the supposed victim very much alive.

The Innocence Project, a wellknown group that works with many inmates to try to clear their names based on DNA evidence, has documented 289 post-conviction DNA exonerations. Florida has exonerated 32 individuals who were incarcerated for crimes they never committed.

Frank Johnson was the first inmate executed in Florida's electric chair on Oct. 7, 1924. In 1929, and from May 1964 to May 1979, there were no executions in Florida. Since then, Florida has executed 85 criminals. The average age of the inmate at the time the capital offense was committed was 29, while the average age at which the criminal was executed was 46.

According to Floridians for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, since Florida resumed executions in the 1970s, 24 wrongfully convicted death row prisoners have been exonerated. Saving innocent lives is important, but so is saving money on costly appeals.

According to estimates by the Palm Beach Post , because the lengthy appeals process is so expensive, Florida would save $51 million every year by punishing all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole, instead of executing them.

Much of the civilized world already has abolished capital punishment. Isn’t it time Florida joined them? It’s not only the humane thing to do, but we would eliminate the risk of killing innocent people, and save a truck load of money each year.

Gilleland is retired and lives in Suntree.


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Protesters to Florida’s death penalty gather across the highway from the Florida State Correctional facility near Starke last year.AP

Mainecoons
04-24-2014, 10:13 PM
You can't trust government with anyones life. They have been caught time and time again convicting innocent people. Abolish capital punishment.

Blackrook
04-24-2014, 11:44 PM
Once the government has decided you're guilty your goose is cooked. I was involved in a criminal trial. The prosecution did not turn over a video they had taken from our clients, despite discovery rules requiring them to turn over evidence. They put a cop on the stand who lied his ass off. We put on a video and proved he was lying. What saved us is the prosecution had the wrong video, and we had the right one. Otherwise my clients would have been convicted based on a cop's perjured testimony.

momsapplepie
04-25-2014, 12:03 AM
There are those that deserve capitol punishment, with irrefutable evidence and beyond a reasonable doubt.

Case in point, Ted Bundy.
evidence? forensically proven orthodontic evidence that matched bite marks on his 14 year old victim, who was physically abducted, beaten, tortured, raped, sodomized, strangled, then partially buried. This was ONLY in Fla. The other states let Fla. have him to prosecute BECAUSE he was going to be sentenced to death. If not, Fla., the other states were lined up to do so.
yeah, Let's give these sickos life, when they acted in an animalistic manner.

texan
04-25-2014, 08:46 AM
I don't take issue with the death penalty, meaning its not a great issue for me.

I could not push the button to take someones life therefore don't agree with the penalty.

I will head off the follow-up question. I think abortion in some cases should be legal and has to be determined by the individual, there may be some legit reasons for this procedure and you can't decide for everyone from your couch. I do think we are to damn casual about it in these days. There should be services in place to educate and protect life where we can. A big however, I am totally and fiercy against late term abortions unless someones life is in danger. The Philly Dr and Tiller should be in jail for there practices. This is also my chief complaint against Kathlene S. from Kansas she supported Tiller and he was an animal andd piece of crap for his disregard for life. I don't agree with the man who shot him but I do understand how it could happen.

Governements should not pay for abortions. BTW I am not sure executions would be more expensive if we handled them properly.

Common Sense
04-25-2014, 08:49 AM
You can't trust government with anyones life. They have been caught time and time again convicting innocent people. Abolish capital punishment.

We agree on something!

Mainecoons
04-25-2014, 09:05 AM
Yes except you trust government with your liberty and property, which is about as stupid as trusting them with your life.

When you grow up, you'll realize that most of what government has gotten into since Dwight Eisenhower has been a gross failure, the "Great Society" the greatest 3 trillion dollar failure of all. I see on the news this morning that the VA managed to put 40 Veterans on a concealed waiting list long enough for them to die. The VA is a classic demonstration of just how bad the overpaid, incompetent Federal bureaucracy is, yet you just can't seem to give them more stuff to fuck up and more of our money to do so.

We'll agree when you get real about government and its limits.