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nathanbforrest45
04-25-2014, 09:00 PM
If we believe many commercials today we would have to admit white women no longer date white men. Why is that?

Dark Mistress
04-25-2014, 09:10 PM
In an effort to prove said companies are not "racist."

Perianne
04-25-2014, 10:05 PM
If we believe many commercials today we would have to admit white women no longer date white men. Why is that?

And all physicians are black.

sachem
04-25-2014, 10:07 PM
If we believe many commercials today we would have to admit white women no longer date white men. Why is that?Well, we know commercials are certainly reality based.

Ravi
04-26-2014, 04:12 AM
I think it's because all the white guys seem to need viagra.

GrassrootsConservative
04-26-2014, 04:18 AM
I think it's because all the white guys seem to need viagra.

For you? I'd imagine.

Bet you got "phat booty fo da brothaz" though, huh?

Libhater
04-26-2014, 05:20 AM
I think it's because all the white guys seem to need viagra.

Are you talking from personal experience with these WHITE men?

Ravi
04-26-2014, 05:36 AM
Are you talking from personal experience with these WHITE men?
I'm talking about the commercials. A lot of white men in commercials seem to need viagra.

GrassrootsConservative
04-26-2014, 05:45 AM
I'm talking about the commercials. A lot of white men in commercials seem to need viagra.

That's because Progressives and their gender-blending agendas have made women a lot more masculine and white men are having a hard time keeping it up around that. I understand some black men might want a woman with short hair and broad shoulders and a hot-air balloon ass, but in general men with higher standards want a female that is feminine.

Libhater
04-26-2014, 05:54 AM
I'm talking about the commercials. A lot of white men in commercials seem to need viagra.

Got it, did you see that commercial with an emaciated pale white woman wearing a Christmas tree hat
selling her body from a street corner locale? Evidently she thought there were enough available testosterone-driven
white men having the Holiday spirit to please her both sexually and financially.

midcan5
04-26-2014, 06:51 AM
LOL oh the invisible racism flies, invisible you say.... LOL Not in America we ain't racist, why just ask Cliven. Having grown up in a age in which blacks and gays were nonexistent it's kinda funny seeing the change and especially the reaction, kinda like when affirmative action was only white, huh, you mean it still is! The thing that is changing too is the white male and the black women, years ago I read a piece that posed the proposition that white men were taking to black ladies cause they were more traditional. I'll let the reader muse on that one. I once told a black manager (very racist man) I worked with not to worry, for racism was only an advertising gimmick made up by Suntan lotion companies for when we were all brownish then who would need their product. You see the humor I hope and so it goes.....

But please folks inform Cliven, Fox, Right wing talking heads, conservative republicans, that the memo has been out there for years now. They need to get on board and talk the talk but make sure only some dogs hear it.


"You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger” — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a by-product of them is blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.” Lee Atwater, Republican strategist, 1981, describing the Southern Strategy


'Kevin Phillips, who popularized the right’s 'Southern Strategy,' was quoted in The New York Times Magazine in May 1970 as saying that "the more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans.""

1751_Texan
04-26-2014, 07:17 AM
If we believe many commercials today we would have to admit white women no longer date white men. Why is that?

Of the commercials either in television or print media, there is no way more instances of "white" women "dating" outside their race. You're perception may be skewed to notice interracial couples more for some reason.

I seem to recall your namesake was highly focused on race.

ChoppedLiver
04-26-2014, 12:26 PM
I think it's because all the white guys seem to need viagra.


For you? I'd imagine.

Bet you got "phat booty fo da brothaz" though, huh?

Don't forget the plentiful amount of brown paper grocery sacks they need to go with the Viagra.

:cool:

1751_Texan
04-26-2014, 01:08 PM
Some so-called "White-males" egos seem to be so fragile...No one should even uncousciously attempt to offend their sensibilities. Do people really believe that commericals are made to offeded "white-males'?

Used to be back in the good old days Men used to brag about their sexual conquests...now "men" need the fantasy that they are so desirable that no woman would ever date outside their "race".

How freaking self-absorbed and delusional

Sad. Men used to be do-ers...now all they can do... is think about it and complain. No wonder women want real men.

Akula
04-26-2014, 04:15 PM
Do people really believe that commericals are made to offeded "white-males'?
No one anywhere ever said that. That isn't the purpose of commercials.

Everyone knows that they are made to manipulate people and persuade them to do or not do certain things.
There is no image ever seen on a television screen by "accident". Every image or item in every scene is there for a reason. They're carefully storyboarded out and certain actors are hired to portray certain types of individuals in order to influence the way people think.

It's marketing mixed with psychology and a portion of propaganda.
See Edward Bernays for more on using propaganda/marketing to influence people.

Mister D
04-26-2014, 04:26 PM
No one anywhere ever said that. That isn't the purpose of commercials.

Everyone knows that they are made to manipulate people and persuade them to do or not do certain things.
There is no image ever seen on a television screen by "accident". Every image or item in every scene is there for a reason. They're carefully storyboarded out and certain actors are hired to portray certain types of individuals in order to influence the way people think.

It's marketing mixed with psychology and a portion of propaganda.
See Edward Bernays for more on using propaganda/marketing to influence people.

Advertising is a method of manipulation and control. That's why America is saturated in advertising probably more so than any other country. That's also part and parcel of what gives liberal democracies the illusion of freedom. The methods of domination are merely softer in western societies than in the former USSR, for example.

Akula
04-26-2014, 04:34 PM
Advertising is a method of manipulation and control. That's why America is saturated in advertising probably more so than any other country. That's also part and parcel of what gives liberal democracies the illusion of freedom. The methods of domination are merely softer in western societies than in the former USSR, for example.

Precisely.
Keep the herd mesmerized with flashing pictures and loud, fast dialogue..
"Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt".

The media promotes ADD by the continuous barrage of "news" and "information" to the point where it's hard to keep up.

People don't have the bandwidth to keep up with all the misdirection and corruption in government while trying to sort out the propaganda and lies. People have lives and jobs, etc....that take up most of their time...

Mister D
04-26-2014, 04:43 PM
Akula You're also correct that there is nothing accidental in these ads. Westerners are constantly bombarded with advertising because it's a great method for instilling the values the political and economic elite think we should have. Anyone who thinks they just happened to select mixed race couples for some recent ads is incredibly naive.

Dr. Who
04-26-2014, 05:45 PM
@Akula (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=402) You're also correct that there is nothing accidental in these ads. Westerners are constantly bombarded with advertising because it's a great method for instilling the values the political and economic elite think we should have. Anyone who thinks they just happened to select mixed race couples for some recent ads is incredibly naive.

Not arguing against subliminal messages, but I disagree that there is anything nefarious in selecting mixed race couples. They've been around for a long time and advertising is just now reflecting reality. Similarly they are proportionately reflecting other races in society, although in some cases deliberately targeting certain races for their products.

Mister D
04-26-2014, 06:00 PM
Not arguing against subliminal messages, but I disagree that there is anything nefarious in selecting mixed race couples. They've been around for a long time and advertising is just now reflecting reality. Similarly they are proportionately reflecting other races in society, although in some cases deliberately targeting certain races for their products.

The messages aren't subliminal. They are straight forward and I didn't say it's "nefarious". I said it's intentional. That said, advertising does not reflect reality. The purpose of advertising is to create reality. For example, I'm sure we can agree that advertising is in part designed to create needs that aren't true needs. I'm sure you would also agree that the people in question are concerned with little more than making money society be damned. It's not racial harmony per se that interests them but the creation of ever more uniform, mindless consumers they can sell their crap too.

Dr. Who
04-26-2014, 06:07 PM
The messages aren't subliminal. They are straight forward and I didn't say it's "nefarious". I said it's intentional. That said, advertising does not reflect reality. The purpose of advertising is to create reality. For example, I'm sure we can agree that advertising is in part designed to create needs that aren't true needs. I'm sure you would also agree that the people in question are concerned with little more than making money society be damned. It's not racial harmony per se that interests them but the creation of ever more uniform, mindless consumers they can sell their crap too.
I don't disagree that they are trying to make money, but at the same time the best way to do that is to make the advertising as inclusive as possible WRT the population/viewers. Mixed couples/families of all kinds are fairly ubiquitous, so why wouldn't advertising reflect that reality?

Mister D
04-26-2014, 06:14 PM
I don't disagree that they are trying to make money, but at the same time the best way to do that is to make the advertising as inclusive as possible WRT the population/viewers. Mixed couples/families of all kinds are fairly ubiquitous, so why wouldn't advertising reflect that reality?

That's what I just said. Again, it's purposeful. It's not accidental.

no, they really aren't. If you take Hispanic/white pairings (a statistically meaningless category) out of the equation they're pretty rare considering what this country has become.

Dr. Who
04-26-2014, 06:28 PM
That's what I just said. Again, it's purposeful. It's not accidental.

no, they really aren't. If you take Hispanic/white pairings (a statistically meaningless category) out of the equation they're pretty rare considering what this country has become.

Interracial marriages in the U.S. have climbed to 4.8 million (1 in 12 marriages) in 2010[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-HuffingtonHopeYen-3) as a steady flow of new Asian and Hispanic immigrants expands the pool of prospective spouses.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] Blacks are now substantially more likely than before to marry whites.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-HuffingtonHopeYen-3) In 2010, 15% of new marriages were interracial.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-HuffingtonHopeYen-3) In 2010, 25% of Asians, 25% of Hispanics, 17.1% of blacks, and 9.4% of whites married interracially.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-HuffingtonHopeYen-3) Of the 275,500 new interracial marriages in 2010, 43% were white-Hispanic couples, 14.4% were white-Asian, 11.9% were white-black, and the remainder were other combinations.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-5)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage

Mister D
04-26-2014, 06:34 PM
Interracial marriages in the U.S. have climbed to 4.8 million (1 in 12 marriages) in 2010[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-HuffingtonHopeYen-3) as a steady flow of new Asian and Hispanic immigrants expands the pool of prospective spouses.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] Blacks are now substantially more likely than before to marry whites.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-HuffingtonHopeYen-3) In 2010, 15% of new marriages were interracial.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-HuffingtonHopeYen-3) In 2010, 25% of Asians, 25% of Hispanics, 17.1% of blacks, and 9.4% of whites married interracially.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-HuffingtonHopeYen-3) Of the 275,500 new interracial marriages in 2010, 43% were white-Hispanic couples, 14.4% were white-Asian, 11.9% were white-black, and the remainder were other combinations.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage#cite_note-5)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage

Right. It's much rarer than we are led to believe.

Dr. Who
04-26-2014, 06:41 PM
Right. It's much rarer than we are led to believe.Not so rare as to exclude them from being the targets of advertising. Furthermore from the same Wiki source:

The 2010 Pew Research Center Report (U.S. Census Bureau's 2010 American Community Survey) found that record 15.1% of all new marriages in the United States were between spouses of a different race or ethnicity from one another. Furthermore, the 2008 Pew Survey found more than a third of adults (35%) say they have a family member who is married to someone of a different race. And, most Americans say they approve of racial or ethnic intermarriage – not just in the abstract, but in their own families. More than six-in-ten say it would be fine with them if a family member told them they were going to marry someone from any of three major race/ethnic groups other than their own and over 70% approve of interacial marriage in general.

Mister D
04-26-2014, 06:50 PM
Not so rare as to exclude them from being the targets of advertising. Furthermore from the same Wiki source:

The 2010 Pew Research Center Report (U.S. Census Bureau's 2010 American Community Survey) found that record 15.1% of all new marriages in the United States were between spouses of a different race or ethnicity from one another. Furthermore, the 2008 Pew Survey found more than a third of adults (35%) say they have a family member who is married to someone of a different race. And, most Americans say they approve of racial or ethnic intermarriage not just in the abstract, but in their own families. More than six-in-ten say it would be fine with them if a family member told them they were going to marry someone from any of three major race/ethnic groups other than their own and over 70% approve of interacial marriage in general.


Exclude? All I'm saying is that these ads are carefully planned and the interracial market is pretty small. They sell values just like the sell products but I agree it's all in the pursuit of profit.

Who, you're being naive. If you took a poll in my town you'd likely get the same results. :wink: It's like people being OK with their kid being queer. no one really wants that to happen. Secondly, ethnicity is included to make you believe interracial marriage is rampant. It's not.

Dr. Who
04-26-2014, 06:57 PM
Exclude? All I'm saying is that these ads are carefully planned and the interracial market is pretty small. They sell values just like the sell products but I agree it's all in the pursuit of profit.

Who, you're being naive. If you took a poll in my town you'd likely get the same results. :wink: It's like people being OK with their kid being queer. no one really wants that to happen. Secondly, ethnicity is included to make you believe interracial marriage is rampant. It's not.

Who said it was rampant? I only suggested that it is a demographic that the advertisers are targeting. Furthermore, it doesn't actually matter which mixed race mixture that you show, because all mixed race couples will identify with the concept of mixed relationships and potentially respond to being addressed as a group.

1751_Texan
04-26-2014, 07:03 PM
Do I buy more honeymaid crackers now...no. do I think the ads are cool...yes.


does liking the HM commercial make me want my child to be queer or marry a person of color...I don't know. I guess I'll wait till the next HM commercial to see what they want me to think.

Ravi
04-27-2014, 04:43 AM
Maybe we should outlaw advertising so businesses can't trick people into buying their products.

nathanbforrest45
04-27-2014, 08:32 AM
I have also noticed that many of the "white women" could be black women as well. They are somewhat indistinguishable as white women. You would also get the impression that McDonald's is only interested in selling hamburgers to minorities. Now, a few years ago that would have resulted in McDonald's being called racist because the left thought hamburgers were the devil incarnate and they were only marketed to black people so they would get fat and die.

Go figure.

Oh, and by the way, Nathan Bedford Forrest was not overly concerned with race, no more so than 99% of the population at the time. Forrest was concerned with the preservation of the rights of the states to choose their own destiny. If anyone truly believes the War Between the States was solely because of slavery they are totally and completely ignorant of history.

Akula
04-27-2014, 10:59 AM
Not so rare as to exclude them from being the targets of advertising. Furthermore from the same Wiki source:

The 2010 Pew Research Center Report (U.S. Census Bureau's 2010 American Community Survey) found that record 15.1% of all new marriages in the United States were between spouses of a different race or ethnicity from one another. Furthermore, the 2008 Pew Survey found more than a third of adults (35%) say they have a family member who is married to someone of a different race. And, most Americans say they approve of racial or ethnic intermarriage not just in the abstract, but in their own families. More than six-in-ten say it would be fine with them if a family member told them they were going to marry someone from any of three major race/ethnic groups other than their own and over 70% approve of interacial marriage in general.


Maybe, maybe not. I think most people know that wiki isn't the best source if one is looking for pure truth.

Akula
04-27-2014, 11:01 AM
Maybe we should outlaw advertising so businesses can't trick people into buying their products.

Yes.Great idea .Let's pass some more laws..Let's grow government some more and give them more power...It's worked so well, thus far!

Dr. Who
04-27-2014, 11:02 AM
Maybe, maybe not. I think most people know that wiki isn't the best source if one is looking for pure truth.
Wiki referenced an actual survey. If you have reason to question that survey, then so be it, but Wiki isn't making up the results.

Akula
04-27-2014, 11:06 AM
Wiki referenced an actual survey. If you have reason to question that survey, then so be it, but Wiki isn't making up the results.

Whatever...wiki isn't reliable.
Hitler told the truth sometimes, too...but it's not wise to use him as a reference, either.

Dr. Who
04-27-2014, 11:39 AM
Whatever...wiki isn't reliable.
Hitler told the truth sometimes, too...but it's not wise to use him as a reference, either.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/02/16/the-rise-of-intermarriage/