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Refugee
04-30-2014, 07:29 AM
How about getting back to a few political basics?

The government doesn’t produce wealth, it spends other people’s.

The bigger the government, the more it costs those who produce.

Welfare creates dependency. (Who ever said no to free money).

You can’t regulate against individual stupidity. (You can’t socially engineer equality).

Abolish liberal logic. If diversity promotes separation and those differences produce racism; abolish racialism and promote more separation and diversity.

Things that we always knew, are now told we were wrong, but keep voting an increase in Statism for more of them.


Does the following from past decades give a predictive warning in opposition to what you have under “Yes we can”?

Back to the future?

“We should measure welfare's success by how many people leave welfare, not by how many are added.”
“Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.”
“I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress.”

Ronald Regan.

Peter1469
04-30-2014, 02:42 PM
Great points.

Captain Obvious
04-30-2014, 02:44 PM
The left-wing bucket brigade will instinctively (negatively) react to these perceived RW talking points.

Referencing Reagan is a deal killer. These will be the focus, not the content.

Bob
04-30-2014, 02:59 PM
How about getting back to a few political basics?

The government doesn’t produce wealth, it spends other people’s.

The bigger the government, the more it costs those who produce.

Welfare creates dependency. (Who ever said no to free money).

You can’t regulate against individual stupidity. (You can’t socially engineer equality).

Abolish liberal logic. If diversity promotes separation and those differences produce racism; abolish racialism and promote more separation and diversity.

Things that we always knew, are now told we were wrong, but keep voting an increase in Statism for more of them.


Does the following from past decades give a predictive warning in opposition to what you have under “Yes we can”?

Back to the future?

“We should measure welfare's success by how many people leave welfare, not by how many are added.”
“Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.”
“I have wondered at times what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the US Congress.”

Ronald Regan.

I started to argue that of all the USA presidents ever to serve

Ronald Magnus Reagan, no doubt at all, is this nations best ever president.

I have articulated more than a few times my crystal clear logic as to why I believe this.

Let's high light a bit of my comments

Such as

George Washington though great, owned slaves. Though he managed this country well, he actually followed the constitution very well. This gives him high marks.

Jefferson gets mentioned. As Washington did, he too owned slaves. And was his legacy really that important to the entire system? High marks as a founder. As a president, I wonder.

Lincoln, the old outlaw. I rank him low because of actions. Abe told the world he did not fight to free slaves. His one motive was to restore the union.

But was that correct? When Washington and his pals decided to toss out then law to boot out a King that officially settled this country, at least at that time it was how it worked, they did not ask for a vote to see if they should or not. They took action.

The South put this up to the people for a vote. Same thing done recently in Crimea. They voted and knew what they voted for.

Supposedly when people vote, it matters. If the votes in states can be overturned by an Army, not the courts, why praise Abe Lincoln. Then there is the matter of lives lost. Of all presidents, he cost this nation the most ever deaths. His deaths top the rest of the presidents lost in combat. Add the rest up and they still don't beat out Abe.

The idea Abe ended slavery is nonsense. It was not his emancipation proclamation. And could the public vote after the war ended in the south matter at all? They were defeated people living on garbage found where it was. Abe destroyed a lot of states.

For him to be called great merely because he was republican ought to anger us, not please us.

FDR? That man wanted this nation to use the Hitler system to create a good economy. Make no mistake, that is just what it was. Hitler engaged his nation in massive building projects. This of course had benefits. But this country still has not recovered from the errors of FDR. And for what it is worth, it seems as if it never will.

FDR designed a system that promotes racism. Promotes being on welfare. Promotes us from being self sufficient and strong, to being willing to sell our souls to government for a few benefits.

This Government is not remotely what Washington and the founders imagined. We have taken a stroll into socialism. Some feel this is not strong enough and we are running to Communism.

Arkady Factorovich, from Kiev, and I were talking around 1994 where he asked me a question.

Bob he says, I came from Communism. Explain to me why this country is rushing to adopt that system?

Arkady is on CSPAN where he talked to a large group of Republicans in DC some time back. HE clearly can't stand Democrats. I wish I could stand them. But I too can't.

I see hatred. I see Democrats fanning the flames. I see us as servants and the Democrats herding us like sheep and locking the doors. I see high taxes forever.

I see a defeated American people. When will we do what the Founders did?

This is the CSPAN tape where Factorovich was a speaker


http://www.c-span.org/person/?arkadyfaktorovich

Refugee
04-30-2014, 06:25 PM
Good post Bob. Socialism does eventually turn into communism and that’s because it runs out of money to fund it. A bloated State funding everything then looks to the only other option to fund itself and that’s taxation. Show me a socialist European country with low taxation? Eventually it starts to collapse and the only thing left is to tax the wealthy. When that runs out it either collapses altogether or the State starts to nationalize private industry to try to produce the wealth for itself.

The following short article is interesting in that it’s a modern day updated version of the pre-war Frankfurt school suggestions for dumbing down a society prior to introducing Liberal Fascist Statism. You're slowly going down the same road as Europe.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp)