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Peter1469
05-05-2014, 06:35 PM
Coming fiscal meltdown (http://usawatchdog.com/catastrophic-meltdown-coming-to-america-doug-casey/)


Investor/author Doug Casey says most Americans are ill-prepared for what is coming. Casey explains, “This huge recession that started in 2007, and the bottom was 2009 and 2010, has cyclically recovered. So, people think it’s going to be happy days again, but it’s not. The way the government engineered this recovery is by creating trillions in currency units, and as we speak, they are creating $55 billion a month more by buying government bonds and mortgage securities.

All of this paper money which is currently sitting in banks, at some point, is going to wash over the U.S. You’ll see very high levels of inflation. It’s going to be quite catastrophic.” Casey, who has a new video called “Meltdown America,” contends, “The standard of living for the average American has been dropping for years now. The average American can’t lay his hands on $2,000. A recent poll came out and said 40% of Americans, if they had to get $2,000 cash in 30 days, couldn’t do it. So, things are pretty strapped, and when the economy goes off the deep end again, and I think it could happen this year quite frankly, there’s going to be a lot of unemployed people, a lot of people without any money and a lot of people with a lot of debt. There is nothing the government can do at this point except print more money. The problem is all the money they are printing is coming out of a financial fire hose at the Federal Reserve. The rich guys are where the fire hose is, and the little people are just getting some dribs and drabs. This is why the country is becoming polarized, where the rich are becoming richer and the poor are becoming poorer. It’s exactly because of these government actions that are incredibly stupid. . . It’s just bailing out the rich. The prognosis is extremely grim. There’s no way out.”


What does Casey mean when he says, “There’s no way out”? Casey explains, “It means, in the real world, there is cause and effect. Actions have consequences . . . . What could happen? You could have lots of bank failures. You could have a stock market crash. All this money that the government has created has bulled up the stock market to new highs. So, the next step is likely to be down. A lot of people have assets in the stock market, and if they don’t, their pension funds are in the stock market. Most of the cities in this country have and most of the states in this country have gigantic pension liabilities that are underfunded, underfunded even though the stock market is at all-time highs and the bond market is in a super bubble. Now, when interest rates inevitably go up from these artificially suppressed levels where they are now, the bond market is going to collapse, the stock market is going to collapse, and with it, the real estate market is going to collapse. These pension funds are going to be wiped out. Then what’s going to happen? This is a very bad situation. The U.S. is digging itself in deeper and deeper.”



So, could the U.S. one day just default on its enormous debt? Casey says, “There is really no pleasant solution to this problem, but actually, for years, I have advocated the U.S. doing exactly that. Right now, the U.S. has official government debt of $17 trillion. This is not repayable. In addition to that, there is another $65 trillion in obligations that it has to make good on, like Social security, for instance. I suggest the U.S. government default on all these things because, otherwise, it is going to mean the next generation of Americans is going to be indentured servants. It’s an insoluble problem at this point. It’s just as if you or I had borrowed a million dollars and we lived high off the hog for a year. At the end of the year, after an artificially high standard of living, we would have a very real decrease in our standard of living if we were going to pay the million dollars back. I think the U.S. should default. I think it would also serve as a good thing to punish the people who loaned the U.S. the money and enabled it to do all the stupid things it has done with the money. Another advantage would be the U.S. wouldn’t be able to borrow again for a good long time, and that’s a plus too. The U.S. is going to default one way or another. I’m just saying they ought to do it overtly and honestly as opposed to catastrophically by destroying the dollar, which is the way they are actually going to default on all that debt.”


What will happen to your retirement funds that are not wiped out by a crash? Will the government simply take what it needs to survive? Casey thinks, “The U.S government is not ‘We the People.’ The U.S. government is an entity unto itself. It’s as separate from U.S. society as General Motors or Apple Computer. So, its first interest is to look out for itself, and its only source of revenue is confiscating wealth from the American people. Of course, it will. Governments are always doing this type of thing. Here in Argentina, they confiscated everybody’s pension account three years ago. . . . Of course, it’s going to happen in the U.S.”

zelmo1234
05-05-2014, 06:51 PM
That is when the battle for the soul of the country will begin! Pray it will be a peaceful battle

MrJimmyDale
05-05-2014, 07:02 PM
I'm trying to start preparing........God bless this country!

Germanicus
05-05-2014, 07:10 PM
So now do you all believe me? I have been saying this for years.

edit- I have. So in a way I will be very happy about it when it happens. I will be correct. (:

zelmo1234
05-05-2014, 07:20 PM
So now do you all believe me? I have been saying this for years.

edit- I have. So in a way I will be very happy about it when it happens. I will be correct. (:

But you will disappointed with the final outcome as it will totally destroy the Chinese economy as well.

Think about what will happen if China becomes the world currency? It will cost to much to manufacture in their country and there economy will collapse!

If the USA turns inward, they are the only country in the world that can be energy, food, and raw material independent!

Thus ending the massive imports that we have now! A return to federalism would change the world landscape in a decade, and bring the USA back to the top!

Refugee
05-05-2014, 07:30 PM
A lot of people forecasting the total collapse of the economy and a survivalist mode. Personally I think it will come with a whimper, not a bang. Sometime in the not too distant future someone is going to have to tell whichever President is in office, “Sir, we have a million people out in the streets and they’re armed”. The playing with equality and socialism will come to a sudden halt and the hunt will be on for another Regan to try to get America back on its feet and clean up the mess.

The welfare crowd will be the first to suffer, followed by a drastic cut back in foreign aid and a drastic culling of the Pelosi’s and Reid’s who infest your government. It will take you decades to get back on your feet again.

By the way, the European Union passed a law which allowed governments to plunder savings from bank accounts, (Cyprus). Governments can do it and they will also suspend your rights in a national emergency or mass civil unrest. Bet on it.

I don’t believe the U.S. will collapse as predicted, but it will learn you a lesson not to play with things, (socialism), you don’t understand.

darroll
05-05-2014, 07:30 PM
Bush warned us about the housing meltdown, We saved our own a$$ by listening Read Casey Crisis investing. It's too late for precious metals.

lynn
05-05-2014, 07:44 PM
I'm trying to start preparing........God bless this country!


How do you prepare for something like that?

Perianne
05-05-2014, 07:50 PM
...the hunt will be on for another Regan to try to get America back on its feet and clean up the mess.

Refugee, I like you and I forgive you for misspelling the Great One's name.

Refugee
05-05-2014, 08:03 PM
@Refugee (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1060), I like you and I forgive you for misspelling the Great One's name.

Ah yes, Reagan, my apologies. Not to be confused with Reid. :smiley:

Germanicus
05-05-2014, 08:52 PM
But you will disappointed with the final outcome as it will totally destroy the Chinese economy as well.

Think about what will happen if China becomes the world currency? It will cost to much to manufacture in their country and there economy will collapse!

If the USA turns inward, they are the only country in the world that can be energy, food, and raw material independent!

Thus ending the massive imports that we have now! A return to federalism would change the world landscape in a decade, and bring the USA back to the top!

But Chgina has two currencies kind of. They can pay domestic workers in the domestic currency and use another unit for international trade. Kinda like Hitler did with his German Marks. Or Lincoln with his Greenbacks. China will be fine.

edit- I really do not think anyone with any sense wants to see USA or China collapse.

Ethereal
05-05-2014, 08:54 PM
Exchange your dollars for precious metals (gold and silver), a hunting rifle, ammo, sandbags (at least a thousand), camouflage netting, barbed wire, water filters and purification tablets, canned food, medical supplies, seeds and gardening equipment, batteries, gas, coal, generator, communication equipment (radio), cooking supplies, including a gas stove and wood grill, and last but not least, A SUPPORT NETWORK.

Refugee
05-05-2014, 09:07 PM
A SUPPORT NETWORK.

Warning label! Does not include the government. :laugh:

Newpublius
05-05-2014, 09:30 PM
Ah yes, Reagan, my apologies. Not to be confused with Reid. :smiley:

Or regan, the treas sec under ReaganReagan

Gerrard Winstanley
05-06-2014, 04:18 AM
@Refugee (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1060), I like you and I forgive you for misspelling the Great One's name.
http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ronald_reagan_riding_a_velociraptor_by_sharpwriter-d55rsh7.jpg

Akula
05-06-2014, 04:32 AM
How do you prepare for something like that?

Same way you do for a hurricane.
Get lots of canned food or MRE, have a supply of gasoline, some basic tools, gloves, toilet paper, insect repellent, lighters (or a flint firestarter), a lifestraw personal water filter (look it up), some kind of weapons.

Think of what you'd need if all the stores were closed and there was no electricity and you were going to have to camp out for a few weeks ....or months..

Akula
05-06-2014, 04:43 AM
Coming fiscal meltdown (http://usawatchdog.com/catastrophic-meltdown-coming-to-america-doug-casey/)

What is your source?

Where did you get this info?

Is the amount you posted a violation of fair use and therefore a copyright violation? It might be.


You don't want to risk losing advertisers, remember.:rollseyes:

I believe that was your excuse for harassing me, wasn't it? :)

Peter1469
05-06-2014, 05:10 AM
What is your source?

Where did you get this info?

Is the amount you posted a violation of fair use and therefore a copyright violation? It might be.


You don't want to risk losing advertisers, remember.:rollseyes:

I believe that was your excuse for harassing me, wasn't it? :)

The blue is a link that you can click on and go directly to my source. The thing that you lacked.

Akula
05-06-2014, 05:18 AM
The blue is a link that you can click on and go directly to my source. The thing that you lacked.


but where did you get it? Why won't you say?...not admitting it speaks volumes...see how that works, ace?..fun, huh?


I posted the link. It was the exact same one as shown on the chart, wasn't it?

Peter1469
05-06-2014, 05:23 AM
but where did you get it? Why won't you say?...not admitting it speaks volumes...see how that works, ace?..fun, huh?


I posted the link. It was the exact same one as shown on the chart, wasn't it?

No.

I imagine that nobody here has any doubts as to why you did not link to the website where you got the chart that you posted.

Akula
05-06-2014, 05:27 AM
No.

I imagine that nobody here has any doubts as to why you did not link to the website where you got the chart that you posted.

You imagine way too much, counselor..that's your problem in this matter...your imagination feeding your prejudices.


What do you have against the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education who published the chart i referenced? Are you a racist or something?

The Sage of Main Street
05-06-2014, 02:05 PM
That is when the battle for the soul of the country will begin! Pray it will be a peaceful battle Greed is suicide of the soul, so "the soul of the country" is already dead.