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zelmo1234
05-08-2014, 08:00 AM
It was a fairly bad primary day for those that want smaller government. IF you look at the national ticket.

But it appears that small government conservatives did really well in their local races!

Maybe it is time to start at home, First get the school board to start teaching instead of indoctrinating the kids, then get your city council or county government to be physically conservative, get rid of the waste.

Then move on to the civil and criminal courts in your area, most of those positions are elected. And easy to change because a few people handing out flyers will generally swing the election!

Finally move on to your state government, and get them in line so we see the results that are happening in places like ND, TX, WI LA

If we start at home, the federal government will finally take care of itself

Alyosha
05-08-2014, 08:04 AM
Because the GOP still gets big dollars for adverts only when large government DOD contracting types are running. They don't want smaller government, and unless people get the exposure that $$ brings they don't get in.

Cigar
05-08-2014, 08:09 AM
It use to be a time you can Vote without having to involve Big Government ... but the GOP is changing that :laugh:

It use to be a time a Woman and she Doctor was private without having to involve Big Government ... but the GOP is changing that :laugh:

Alyosha
05-08-2014, 08:11 AM
It use to be a time you can Vote without having to involve Big Government ... but the GOP is changing that :laugh:

It use to be a time a Woman and she Doctor was private without having to involve Big Government ... but the GOP is changing that :laugh:
Cigar

it's 2014 and the Democrats have been in charge totally for 6 years. You can give partial birth to a baby and stick scissors in its skull to kill it and drag it out the rest of the way.

Abortion rights have never been safer and are not changing.

2014...okay? 2014, not 1968.

Thanks.

Cigar
05-08-2014, 08:15 AM
@Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294)

it's 2014 and the Democrats have been in charge totally for 6 years. You can give partial birth to a baby and stick scissors in its skull to kill it and drag it out the rest of the way.

Abortion rights have never been safer and are not changing.

2014...okay? 2014, not 1968.

Thanks.

Ok ... let's just pretend the #1 and #2 pieces of legislation coming out of The GOP and Washington is striping Abortion and Voting Rights.

Name anything the GOP has offered over the last decade other than that?

Take your time ... :laugh:

nathanbforrest45
05-08-2014, 08:19 AM
Other than ever growing government controls what have the Democrats really offered? Bueller, Bueller, Anyone Anyone??

Alyosha
05-08-2014, 08:22 AM
Ok ... let's just pretend the #1 and #2 pieces of legislation coming out of The GOP and Washington is striping Abortion and Voting Rights.

Yes, let's pretend because the GOP like the DNC's #1 and #2 pieces of legislation are all about warfare and spying.

Take your time and see how many abortion bills show up in the Congress compared to money for the MIC. Wake up and smell the police state.

zelmo1234
05-08-2014, 08:22 AM
OK back to the subject! Nice deflection Cigar, But what about the idea fo changing the local and while not totally abandoning the national giving it a lot less attention?

Alyosha
05-08-2014, 08:24 AM
OK back to the subject! Nice deflection Cigar, But what about the idea fo changing the local and while not totally abandoning the national giving it a lot less attention?

Well, I would agree with this if we hadn't completely dismantled federalism.

nathanbforrest45
05-08-2014, 08:25 AM
I have been saying since 2008 that changing the president does not change much if you leave the same Congress in place. If we really want to curb the power of the government we MUST start on a grass roots level. We MUST elect local STATESMEN, not politicians. Statesmen that will return us to the promises of the founding fathers and the ideology of the Constitution. Only then, and only over time, will the progressive movement on both sides of the aisle be crushed. We did not become a socialist nation overnight. We have been creeping toward total government domination since Teddy Roosevelt. Both Roosevelt's, Wilson, LBJ, Nixon, Carter, both Bush's, Clinton, and now the fulfillment of the dream by Obama.

Don't worry about who is president. Worry about who is in the House and Senate and don't continue voting for the same liberalism in the hopes it will somehow turn into freedom.

zelmo1234
05-08-2014, 08:36 AM
Well, I would agree with this if we hadn't completely dismantled federalism.

That is my point let's rebuild from the ground up! Start with the smallest and work you way up

Dark Mistress
05-08-2014, 08:39 AM
It was a fairly bad primary day for those that want smaller government. IF you look at the national ticket.

But it appears that small government conservatives did really well in their local races!

Maybe it is time to start at home, First get the school board to start teaching instead of indoctrinating the kids, then get your city council or county government to be physically conservative, get rid of the waste.

Then move on to the civil and criminal courts in your area, most of those positions are elected. And easy to change because a few people handing out flyers will generally swing the election!

Finally move on to your state government, and get them in line so we see the results that are happening in places like ND, TX, WI LA

If we start at home, the federal government will finally take care of itself

Just me, but I think the best way to get some change in schools is pull the children out. Then you will see some change because schools will not be seeing their dollars. Most parents are not willing to do that, they are content to continue on with the indoctrination because they have to work or they just could not ever, ever homeschool their kids. We have lots of charter schools who have had more liberties with what and how they teach but Common Core is changing all of that.

But I don't believe conservatism is the answer. It doesn't seem to make much difference when we have Conservatives elected.

zelmo1234
05-08-2014, 08:39 AM
I have been saying since 2008 that changing the president does not change much if you leave the same Congress in place. If we really want to curb the power of the government we MUST start on a grass roots level. We MUST elect local STATESMEN, not politicians. Statesmen that will return us to the promises of the founding fathers and the ideology of the Constitution. Only then, and only over time, will the progressive movement on both sides of the aisle be crushed. We did not become a socialist nation overnight. We have been creeping toward total government domination since Teddy Roosevelt. Both Roosevelt's, Wilson, LBJ, Nixon, Carter, both Bush's, Clinton, and now the fulfillment of the dream by Obama.

Don't worry about who is president. Worry about who is in the House and Senate and don't continue voting for the same liberalism in the hopes it will somehow turn into freedom.

I think it is more local than that, I think getting the right school board and then city council and then mayor and state house and Senate and then your congressperson, and then your senators?

Not that you should not try, but 3 people with flyers can get someone elected tot he school board. 50 people with flyers can get your city council changed.

And as these policies change the local economy and government it will be easier to get the 10,000 people you need to change you Senator!

Dark Mistress
05-08-2014, 08:40 AM
But what if there are not Statesmen who want to return to that ideology? You have the same murky muddled mess of candidates because that is what we see in Washington.

zelmo1234
05-08-2014, 08:41 AM
Just me, but I think the best way to get some change in schools is pull the children out. Then you will see some change because schools will not be seeing their dollars. Most parents are not willing to do that, they are content to continue on with the indoctrination because they have to work or they just could not ever, ever homeschool their kids. We have lots of charter schools who have had more liberties with what and how they teach but Common Core is changing all of that.

But I don't believe conservatism is the answer. It doesn't seem to make much difference when we have Conservatives elected.

That is a great Idea. but in some cases it is financial that they are stuck with the system. Vouchers would be one way to change that!

But YES if you can starve the beast you can effect change that is a GREAT IDEA

Green Arrow
05-08-2014, 08:42 AM
I intend to run for city council myself in a year or two.

zelmo1234
05-08-2014, 08:48 AM
I intend to run for city council myself in a year or two.

That is fantastic! That is one of the best ways to effect change. Do it yourself! another Great Idea!

nathanbforrest45
05-08-2014, 08:53 AM
I intend to run for city council myself in a year or two.

I am glad I don't live in Chattanooga.

Green Arrow
05-08-2014, 08:56 AM
That is fantastic! That is one of the best ways to effect change. Do it yourself! another Great Idea!

I was inspired at the age of 12 when I got into Gandhi. Particularly his mantra of "Be the change you want to see in the world."

nic34
05-08-2014, 08:57 AM
it's 2014 and the Democrats have been in charge totally for 6 years.

:rofl:

Such a partisan thing to say....

Aly, this might mean something if "democrats" was synonymous with liberal or progressive or something.... :wink: