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Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:16 PM
It's a private company and can do what it wishes, but it shows what bullshit Facebook is

http://www.adamvstheman.com/facebook-aids-obama-in-war-crimes-cover-up/#.U2vXJ_ldVpt

’ve been getting text messages from concerned friends and fans for the last several hours about the official ADAM VS THE MAN Facebook page being down. I logged in, and it turns out that the meme below is the reason. This is a young girl who was badly burned in one of Obama’s drone strikes. As obscene as this photo is, it’s still only a small symbol of the pain experienced by millions in the Middle East suffering due to Obama’s war policies and the families of the hundreds of children who have been confirmed killed by Obama’s drone strikes.http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FOR-WAR-300x168.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FOR-WAR.jpg)Why does Facebook have an interest in covering up Obama’s war crimes? Well, if you know anything about Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerburg, you know he’d rather cozy up to the murderer-in-chief than call him out or tell the truth about his crimes. In fact, he won’t even let us portray the grizzly reality that is being kept from the American people. Here he is shmoozing with Obama at the Facebook Town Hall, but he’s also met with him in private. Facebook has cooperated extensively with the NSA and other government spy agencies.http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-townhall-meeting16-300x210.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-townhall-meeting16.jpg)Here’s what we were greeted with when logging in today:http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-censored-forwar-copy-300x175.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-censored-forwar-copy.jpg)The Facebook “Community Guidelines” are deliberately vague in order to “allow” this kind of blatant censorship. Of course Facebook is a “privately owned” (although publicly traded) company, and has the right to set the rules for participation on its platform. However, as a huge recipient of corporate welfare and such a broad platform for important information to be shared that can shed light on the crimes of governments all over the world, seeing this kind of support for a war criminal is still disheartening. Beheadings are regularly allowed on Facebook, along with war crimes committed by Obama’s foreign enemies, but despite the censorship, we can all see the emperor is more naked than the girl in the meme.We hope to have our page fully functional again, but Facebook does not even allow us to contest the removal of our page or the picture in question. While they point out that “pictures of personal importance such as breastfeeding or Michelangelo’s David” are acceptable, pictures depicting government crimes can get you kicked off. All the page admins and I are also blocked from posting ANYWHERE on Facebook so we can’t even post there to let people know about this. Facebook says this might only last 24 hours and we should review the rest of the content on the page. Petty as this may be, it is important to understand that the conversation is being distorted by the platform, and the incredible potential of the internet is not being realized. Please share this post.- Adam Kokesh

Cigar
05-08-2014, 02:17 PM
Fear makes you do scary things :laugh:

Ravi
05-08-2014, 02:17 PM
Good for them. Shame on people that use children as emotional tools to advance their agenda.

The Xl
05-08-2014, 02:18 PM
Good for them. Shame on people that use children as emotional tools to advance their agenda.

Kinda like you liberals do after any school shooting incident, eh?

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:19 PM
Good for them. Shame on people that use children as emotional tools to advance their agenda.

Weren't you the one using hungry kids back in October for your agenda? I think you were. You kept bringing up people losing SNAP as why RWNJs were the worse people ever when no one had missed SNAP yet.

Glass houses...stones....Ravi....

Captain Obvious
05-08-2014, 02:19 PM
Usually there's a lot more to the story and the guy is usually being a total douchebag and otherwise breaking lots of rules, but someone will no doubt try to politicize it.

It happens all the time and people inhale that bait like it's going out of style.

So having said that, I wonder what the whole story really is.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:20 PM
And if certain people on this thread were smarter they would see that protests are and have always been an important part of making change, and that those protests are nothing without the information of why you are protesting. Why protest war? Because it hurts people.

Should we not talk about the effects of war on children Ravi?

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:21 PM
Usually there's a lot more to the story and the guy is usually being a total douchebag and otherwise breaking lots of rules, but someone will no doubt try to politicize it.

It happens all the time and people inhale that bait like it's going out of style.

So having said that, I wonder what the whole story really is.
Captain Obvious

you are sometimes a douchebag and you break forum rules. I'd think you'd appreciate him a little more. :D

Captain Obvious
05-08-2014, 02:23 PM
And if certain people on this thread were smarter they would see that protests are and have always been an important part of making change, and that those protests are nothing without the information of why you are protesting. Why protest war? Because it hurts people.

Should we not talk about the effects of war on children @Ravi (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=698)?

Right but there's a way to do it and a place for it.

Being a total asshole, ignoring laws and rules, violence, attacking the innocent - all not the right way to do it.

Using the right venues, attacking the offending entity, targeting the right people, not exposing the wrong people - all the right way to do it.

Ethereal
05-08-2014, 02:24 PM
Good for them. Shame on people that use children as emotional tools to advance their agenda.

What's wrong with advancing the agenda of not bombing children?

Captain Obvious
05-08-2014, 02:24 PM
@Captain Obvious (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=3)

you are sometimes a douchebag and you break forum rules. I'd think you'd appreciate him a little more. :D

Maybe - who doesn't to a degree? It's like speeding, everyone does it, who does it really injure?

I just know how far to not go, maybe this guy wasn't smart enough now he's playing the "victim" schtick.

That's sure what it looks like to me, and there is always, ALWAYS more to the story.

Kabuki Joe
05-08-2014, 02:25 PM
Good for them. Shame on people that use children as emotional tools to advance their agenda.


:huh:

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:26 PM
Maybe - who doesn't to a degree? It's like speeding, everyone does it, who does it really injure?

I just know how far to not go, maybe this guy wasn't smart enough now he's playing the "victim" schtick.

That's sure what it looks like to me, and there is always, ALWAYS more to the story.

I don't know that he's playing the victim. He's pushing the limits for a reason and then telling people what happens. We're all so fucking uptight, so wound up, there's a million laws and he's breaking some of them.

I kinda like that.

Ravi
05-08-2014, 02:27 PM
Weren't you the one using hungry kids back in October for your agenda? I think you were. You kept bringing up people losing SNAP as why RWNJs were the worse people ever when no one had missed SNAP yet.

Glass houses...stones....Ravi....

Who gave you permission to use that child's picture?

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:28 PM
Right but there's a way to do it and a place for it.

Being a total asshole, ignoring laws and rules, violence, attacking the innocent - all not the right way to do it.

Using the right venues, attacking the offending entity, targeting the right people, not exposing the wrong people - all the right way to do it.

Dr. King, Gandhi, Jesus, and pretty much every normal person who wasn't rich had to do this to make shit happen. Provoking, holding up mirrors, telling the truth even if it is hard is the only weapons we have to fight against the bad shit going down.

Should he not show the results of drones? People don't care if they can't see the results. You should know that from the abortion debate.

Captain Obvious
05-08-2014, 02:29 PM
I don't know that he's playing the victim. He's pushing the limits for a reason and then telling people what happens. We're all so fucking uptight, so wound up, there's a million laws and he's breaking some of them.

I kinda like that.

"Adam Kokesh" - he sounds like a douchebag kid who thinks he's invincible and can get away with anything and the world owes him a debt.

I bet I'm a lot closer to the mark than you are.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:30 PM
Who gave you permission to use that child's picture?

Who gave you permission to use Boehner's picture? Same person.

Ravi
05-08-2014, 02:31 PM
Usually there's a lot more to the story and the guy is usually being a total douchebag and otherwise breaking lots of rules, but someone will no doubt try to politicize it.

It happens all the time and people inhale that bait like it's going out of style.

So having said that, I wonder what the whole story really is.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2011/12/cnn_claims_that_pakistani_chil.php

Ravi
05-08-2014, 02:32 PM
Who gave you permission to use Boehner's picture? Same person.
Boehner is an adult and a public figure and one need not get his permission to use his picture. An underaged child is a totally different story.

Green Arrow
05-08-2014, 02:32 PM
Of all the agendas to criticize, I never thought I'd see the day when not bombing children was an unacceptable agenda in America.

Ravi
05-08-2014, 02:34 PM
Of all the agendas to criticize, I never thought I'd see the day when not bombing children was an unacceptable agenda in America.
Not bombing children is good. Using a discredited story to attack the US is bad. Worse, is using a child as a political tool.

The first forum I posted on had a left wing nut who did the same thing to attack the US under Bush. She was roundly spanked for it by both the left and the right.

Kalkin
05-08-2014, 02:35 PM
Fear makes you do scary things :laugh:
In your case, posting nonsense ad nauseam.

Captain Obvious
05-08-2014, 02:35 PM
Of all the agendas to criticize, I never thought I'd see the day when not bombing children was an unacceptable agenda in America.

Bombing or not bombing children isn't the issue from where I see it, it's more of an issue of - was this kid who got banned from Facebook being a douchebag or not?

Don't let your emotions cloud the core issue here, nobody's suggesting taking the stance that bombing children is ok.

Just because someone is against something like bombing children doesn't give them free reign to be an asshole, is that what you're recommending?

The end justifies the means?

Captain Obvious
05-08-2014, 02:37 PM
This guy must be a total fucking tool - I click that link adam vs. the man or whatever and it takes me to a site with black wording on a very dark diamond plate background - which is virtually unreadable.

Yeah, this kid is a fucking moron. Sorry, dismissed.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:38 PM
Whatever people have been doing this since forever and even use images like the Holocaust to make political points

http://visualartsdepartment.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/60s-protest.jpg

https://desertpeace.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/never-again.jpg

http://flamingomusings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/no-kid-hungry-poster.jpg

http://identity33.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/KAH_Brochure_Inside.jpg

http://images.catholic.org/ins_news/2013035107.jpg

Newpublius
05-08-2014, 02:39 PM
Good for them. Shame on people that use children as emotional tools to advance their agenda.

Bullshit. Children are emotional tools because the impact of war on children strikes a raw nerve in adults (we're hard wired to protect children)

so, frankly I don't care if it's an image of the Vietnamese napalm girl running naked down the street, a picture of the limbless Iraqi boy, or more recently some children victims coming out of Syria.

don't like it? Don't fucking care, know what I don't like? Funding this bullshit......

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:39 PM
Not bombing children is good. Using a discredited story to attack the US is bad. Worse, is using a child as a political tool.

The first forum I posted on had a left wing nut who did the same thing to attack the US under Bush. She was roundly spanked for it by both the left and the right.
Ravi

show the discredited story of our bombing(s​)--that's plural.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:40 PM
Boehner is an adult and a public figure and one need not get his permission to use his picture. An underaged child is a totally different story.

Oh totally, sure. Are you saying Obama or Hillary has never done that?

Ravi
05-08-2014, 02:48 PM
Oh totally, sure. Are you saying Obama or Hillary has never done that?

If they did, it was just as wrong.

You have shaky morals.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 02:51 PM
If they did, it was just as wrong.

You have shaky morals.

Yeh, I don't think you're the one to tell me about morality, but thanks for the attempt. When I need crazy bitch help, I'll call ya tho.

Green Arrow
05-08-2014, 02:53 PM
Yeh, I don't think you're the one to tell me about morality, but thanks for the attempt. When I need crazy bitch help, I'll call ya tho.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1NEzc3UInnY/UW2baFCSF-I/AAAAAAAAAC0/bZGgMrymbxk/s1600/OhNoYouDidnt_zpsf6998147.jpg

Captain Obvious
05-08-2014, 02:55 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1NEzc3UInnY/UW2baFCSF-I/AAAAAAAAAC0/bZGgMrymbxk/s1600/OhNoYouDidnt_zpsf6998147.jpg

Hey - it's Coach Token!

Newpublius
05-08-2014, 03:01 PM
http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2011/12/cnn_claims_that_pakistani_chil.php

Oh, so the US military didn't cause this collateral damage because the US military said they didn't? Wow, trials will be really quick if we just asked defendants if they did it or not. Notwithstanding, the specific instance is irrelevant, drone strikes are admitted to have occurred elsewhere, presumably collateral damage free? Yeah, right. As usual, you miss the point, Ravi, point is wars have disgusting consequences.

if it wasn't her specifically, it was somebody else's baby girl.

as for the permissions? Who cares? That's between the person whose name, image or likeliness is being used and the photographer/publisher. For all you know, consent was obtained or perhaps even the relative newsworthiness of the event put the image into 'fair use' territory. Not to mention, it's Pakistan, who knows what their laws say about it.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 03:02 PM
Oh, so the US military didn't cause this collateral damage because the US military said they didn't? Wow, trials will be really quick if we just asked defendants if they did it or not. Notwithstanding, the specific instance is irrelevant, drone strikes are admitted to have occurred elsewhere, presumably collateral damage free? Yeah, right. As usual, you miss the point, Ravi, point is wars have disgusting consequences.

if it wasn't her specifically, it was somebody else's baby girl.

as for the permissions? Who cares? That's between the person whose name, image or likeliness is being used and the photographer/publisher. For all you know, consent was obtained or perhaps even the relative newsworthiness of the event put the image into 'fair use' territory. Not to mention, it's Pakistan, who knows what their laws say about it.


Yes, she harps on this one girl from another picture who still may have been droned by us as if to discredit all the drone campaigns. She's a piece of work, that one.

Kalkin
05-08-2014, 03:03 PM
Good for them. Shame on people that use children as emotional tools to advance their agenda.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2013/01/barack_obama_gun_control.jpg

Ravi
05-08-2014, 03:03 PM
Yeh, I don't think you're the one to tell me about morality, but thanks for the attempt. When I need crazy bitch help, I'll call ya tho.

ha! I wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire, so don't bother. You sure are a sensitive child.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 03:04 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2013/01/barack_obama_gun_control.jpg


Awww, but that's like different.


Seriously tho, she'll say that's bad and move on quickly to RWNJs and nutters and whatever. Nothing to see here folks...

The Xl
05-08-2014, 03:04 PM
ha! I wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire, so don't bother. You sure are a sensitive child.

How can you call anyone a child, considering the juvenile thread you made the other day?

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 03:06 PM
ha! I wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire, so don't bother. You sure are a sensitive child.

Uh huh and what makes me sensitive again? Oh! Yeh, responding to a post...cuz... like no one ever does that.

GTFO with that brand of stupid.

Newpublius
05-08-2014, 03:06 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2013/01/barack_obama_gun_control.jpg

Debate winning post, Kalkin!

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 03:07 PM
How can you call anyone a child, considering the juvenile thread you made the other day?

Or call out someone's shaky morals considering how dishonest she is on here...

Ravi
05-08-2014, 03:12 PM
Awww, but that's like different.


Seriously tho, she'll say that's bad and move on quickly to RWNJs and nutters and whatever. Nothing to see here folks...
It is different but still wrong, imo. At least they aren't naked and probably are aware to an extent of what they are doing.

Ravi
05-08-2014, 03:13 PM
How can you call anyone a child, considering the juvenile thread you made the other day?

Which one?

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 03:13 PM
It is different but still wrong, imo. At least they aren't naked and probably are aware to an extent of what they are doing.

LOL, excuses...those shaky morals of yours...

Ravi
05-08-2014, 03:15 PM
LOL, excuses...those shaky morals of yours...
What part of still wrong did you miss?

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 03:17 PM
What part of still wrong did you miss?

When you have to say "it is different" and "at least" you're spinning, but that's ok, Rav. I expect it of you. You wouldn't be you if you were impartial.

Keep on truckin'...

Newpublius
05-08-2014, 03:17 PM
It is different but still wrong, imo. At least they aren't naked and probably are aware to an extent of what they are doing.

I'm she'd rather put some clothes on and go outside to play. Pretty sure the burns coupled with that cream and the bandages make clothing her impractical. It makes the image stronger, Ravi. This isn't nakedness to induce sexual arousal.

Green Arrow
05-08-2014, 03:18 PM
ha! I wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire, so don't bother. You sure are a sensitive child.

See, that's sad, because if you and junie were on fire, I'd run for a bucket or a hose and try to put it out. I'd do the same for patrickt or Kabuki Joe, too, and I hate those guys.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 03:19 PM
I'm she'd rather put some clothes on and go outside to play. Pretty sure the burns coupled with that cream and the bandages make clothing her impractical. It makes the image stronger, Ravi. This isn't nakedness to induce sexual arousal.

When she complains about Holocaust imagery using children who didn't give their opinion as tools I might start, sorta maybe kinda, believing this is somewhat sincere on her part.

But since I know her...

GrassrootsConservative
05-08-2014, 03:21 PM
See, that's sad, because if you and junie were on fire, I'd run for a bucket or a hose and try to put it out. I'd do the same for patrickt or Kabuki Joe, too, and I hate those guys.

But water makes witches melt. You'd be better off grabbing a fire-extinguisher or a fire blanket.

Newpublius
05-08-2014, 03:22 PM
What part of still wrong did you miss?

not only is it not wrong, it's right. 100% so. Nothing even morally ambiguous even. Your objections have been shot down, your argument is shit.

this image is a modern equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize winning photographs of the napalm victims in Vietnam -- and nakedness in those pictures too.

Sorry, you're just fucking wrong.

Common Sense
05-08-2014, 03:26 PM
I think Kokesh has the best of intentions, however he's a bit of an idiot. Joining RT, the Russian propaganda machine, doesn't exactly send the right message.

Facebook is free to do what they want.

Ethereal
05-08-2014, 03:43 PM
I think Kokesh has the best of intentions, however he's a bit of an idiot. Joining RT, the Russian propaganda machine, doesn't exactly send the right message.

Facebook is free to do what they want.

It's only because the American propaganda machine wouldn't let him join their networks.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 03:45 PM
It's only because the American propaganda machine wouldn't let him join their networks.

I agree with my intelligent, nice, marine brother on this one.

Common Sense
05-08-2014, 03:47 PM
It's only because the American propaganda machine wouldn't let him join their networks.

So the Russian propaganda machine was a valid alternative? He's very present on line. I've been aware of him for years.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 03:48 PM
So the Russian propaganda machine was a valid alternative? He's very present on line. I've been aware of him for years.

Actually RT covers US politics FAR more honestly than our networks. They don't need propaganda when our truth is so fucked up.

Ethereal
05-08-2014, 03:50 PM
So the Russian propaganda machine was a valid alternative?

If your goal is to criticize the US establishment without fear of undue pressure, then yes.

Common Sense
05-08-2014, 03:50 PM
Actually RT covers US politics FAR more honestly than our networks. They don't need propaganda when our truth is so fucked up.

Ummmm, maybe... Definitely with a negative slant towards the US.

Green Arrow
05-08-2014, 03:52 PM
Ummmm, maybe... Definitely with a negative slant towards the US.

As he pointed out, they don't have to lie to make people think the U.S. is wicked. We do enough stupid, evil shit that they actually are better off telling the truth.

Heyduke
05-08-2014, 03:57 PM
It's a private company and can do what it wishes, but it shows what bullshit Facebook is

http://www.adamvstheman.com/facebook-aids-obama-in-war-crimes-cover-up/#.U2vXJ_ldVpt

’ve been getting text messages from concerned friends and fans for the last several hours about the official ADAM VS THE MAN Facebook page being down. I logged in, and it turns out that the meme below is the reason. This is a young girl who was badly burned in one of Obama’s drone strikes. As obscene as this photo is, it’s still only a small symbol of the pain experienced by millions in the Middle East suffering due to Obama’s war policies and the families of the hundreds of children who have been confirmed killed by Obama’s drone strikes.http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FOR-WAR-300x168.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FOR-WAR.jpg)Why does Facebook have an interest in covering up Obama’s war crimes? Well, if you know anything about Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerburg, you know he’d rather cozy up to the murderer-in-chief than call him out or tell the truth about his crimes. In fact, he won’t even let us portray the grizzly reality that is being kept from the American people. Here he is shmoozing with Obama at the Facebook Town Hall, but he’s also met with him in private. Facebook has cooperated extensively with the NSA and other government spy agencies.http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-townhall-meeting16-300x210.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-townhall-meeting16.jpg)Here’s what we were greeted with when logging in today:http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-censored-forwar-copy-300x175.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-censored-forwar-copy.jpg)The Facebook “Community Guidelines” are deliberately vague in order to “allow” this kind of blatant censorship. Of course Facebook is a “privately owned” (although publicly traded) company, and has the right to set the rules for participation on its platform. However, as a huge recipient of corporate welfare and such a broad platform for important information to be shared that can shed light on the crimes of governments all over the world, seeing this kind of support for a war criminal is still disheartening. Beheadings are regularly allowed on Facebook, along with war crimes committed by Obama’s foreign enemies, but despite the censorship, we can all see the emperor is more naked than the girl in the meme.We hope to have our page fully functional again, but Facebook does not even allow us to contest the removal of our page or the picture in question. While they point out that “pictures of personal importance such as breastfeeding or Michelangelo’s David” are acceptable, pictures depicting government crimes can get you kicked off. All the page admins and I are also blocked from posting ANYWHERE on Facebook so we can’t even post there to let people know about this. Facebook says this might only last 24 hours and we should review the rest of the content on the page. Petty as this may be, it is important to understand that the conversation is being distorted by the platform, and the incredible potential of the internet is not being realized. Please share this post.- Adam Kokesh

I actually migrated to this site from the AVTM forums. They were lively for the year or two I participated. Then Adam got arrested and I think the whole community scattered to the 4 winds. I wouldn't know, really, because I've watched a sum total of about 15 minutes of Adam Kokesh video. I only participated in the forums, which I liked because there were a few disparate signs of intelligent discussion about anarchy and liberty on those boards. But, almost overnight, those forums dried up completely. They've restarted it now from scratch, deleting all the old discussions.

I saw an interesting link to a post from this site that intrigued me, and I signed up here not realizing that the vast majority of you guys and ladies are all over 90 years old!

Common Sense
05-08-2014, 03:58 PM
As he pointed out, they don't have to lie to make people think the U.S. is wicked. We do enough stupid, evil shit that they actually are better off telling the truth.

I get that...yet they curate the news to paint the US in a very negative light while making them look benevolent. Just look at their coverage of the Ukrainian situation.

Heyduke
05-08-2014, 04:00 PM
But, Facebook is like a sandbox where babies are encouraged to be creative, and yet at the same time they have a minder (the care provider) who constantly attempts to funnel their creativity in a certain direction.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 04:00 PM
I get that...yet they curate the news to paint the US in a very negative light while making them look benevolent. Just look at their coverage of the Ukrainian situation.

What was untruthful about what they said of the US in that story? And are you also saying we don't do the same to them?

Common Sense
05-08-2014, 04:04 PM
What was untruthful about what they said of the US in that story? And are you also saying we don't do the same to them?

The difference is RT is state media. What's the US equivalent, PBS? Of course media is always slanted to favor whatever nation it originates in and the US media outlets are just as guilty. I don't know...maybe it's just the crude blatant way RT does it that gets to me. Their coverage of the Ukraine implied the US was installing Nazi fascists into power and helping kill off ethnic Russians. It was comical. They banned me from commenting there. I was respectful and merely tried to correct inaccuracies.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 04:08 PM
The difference is RT is state media. What's the US equivalent, PBS? Of course media is always slanted to favor whatever nation it originates in and the US media outlets are just as guilty. I don't know...maybe it's just the crude blatant way RT does it that gets to me. Their coverage of the Ukraine implied the US was installing Nazi fascists into power and helping kill off ethnic Russians. It was comical. They banned me from commenting there. I was respectful and merely tried to correct inaccuracies.

If you think that our news stations aren't "state media" I will pat your head and hand you a lollipop.

Common Sense
05-08-2014, 04:11 PM
If you think that our news stations aren't "state media" I will pat your head and hand you a lollipop.

Well, they're not. Not in the same sense that RT is. Of course there are backroom talks and deals made. But state control? No. I could still go for that lollipop though. Don't touch my head.

KC
05-08-2014, 04:19 PM
It's a private company and can do what it wishes, but it shows what bullshit Facebook is

http://www.adamvstheman.com/facebook-aids-obama-in-war-crimes-cover-up/#.U2vXJ_ldVpt

’ve been getting text messages from concerned friends and fans for the last several hours about the official ADAM VS THE MAN Facebook page being down. I logged in, and it turns out that the meme below is the reason. This is a young girl who was badly burned in one of Obama’s drone strikes. As obscene as this photo is, it’s still only a small symbol of the pain experienced by millions in the Middle East suffering due to Obama’s war policies and the families of the hundreds of children who have been confirmed killed by Obama’s drone strikes.http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FOR-WAR-300x168.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FOR-WAR.jpg)Why does Facebook have an interest in covering up Obama’s war crimes? Well, if you know anything about Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerburg, you know he’d rather cozy up to the murderer-in-chief than call him out or tell the truth about his crimes. In fact, he won’t even let us portray the grizzly reality that is being kept from the American people. Here he is shmoozing with Obama at the Facebook Town Hall, but he’s also met with him in private. Facebook has cooperated extensively with the NSA and other government spy agencies.http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-townhall-meeting16-300x210.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-townhall-meeting16.jpg)Here’s what we were greeted with when logging in today:http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-censored-forwar-copy-300x175.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-censored-forwar-copy.jpg)The Facebook “Community Guidelines” are deliberately vague in order to “allow” this kind of blatant censorship. Of course Facebook is a “privately owned” (although publicly traded) company, and has the right to set the rules for participation on its platform. However, as a huge recipient of corporate welfare and such a broad platform for important information to be shared that can shed light on the crimes of governments all over the world, seeing this kind of support for a war criminal is still disheartening. Beheadings are regularly allowed on Facebook, along with war crimes committed by Obama’s foreign enemies, but despite the censorship, we can all see the emperor is more naked than the girl in the meme.We hope to have our page fully functional again, but Facebook does not even allow us to contest the removal of our page or the picture in question. While they point out that “pictures of personal importance such as breastfeeding or Michelangelo’s David” are acceptable, pictures depicting government crimes can get you kicked off. All the page admins and I are also blocked from posting ANYWHERE on Facebook so we can’t even post there to let people know about this. Facebook says this might only last 24 hours and we should review the rest of the content on the page. Petty as this may be, it is important to understand that the conversation is being distorted by the platform, and the incredible potential of the internet is not being realized. Please share this post.- Adam Kokesh

To be clear, about my thanks, I appreciate you posting this, not that I approve of anything Facebook has done here. The US needs to know about the consequences of our drone policy.

Ethereal
05-08-2014, 04:22 PM
The difference is RT is state media.

State media that allows a more critical view of the US state than the US media, which is why it makes sense to join if your goal is to criticize the US state.


What's the US equivalent, PBS?

All the major corporate news outlets are clients of the US state to some degree or another. They are a captive audience who depends on the state to grant them access to, and protect their incumbency in, the marketplace with various regulatory and legislative policies that inhibit competition and sanction activities. They rarely, if ever, deviate from the establishment propaganda out of fear for oppression.


Of course media is always slanted to favor whatever nation it originates in and the US media outlets are just as guilty. I don't know...maybe it's just the crude blatant way RT does it that gets to me. Their coverage of the Ukraine implied the US was installing Nazi fascists into power and helping kill off ethnic Russians. It was comical. They banned me from commenting there. I was respectful and merely tried to correct inaccuracies.

I'm not saying they're an independent news organization, just that they provided Kokesh with a bigger microphone for his anti-US-state views, so it made sense for him to work with them.

1751_Texan
05-08-2014, 04:39 PM
It's a private company and can do what it wishes, but...


why even go on?

KC
05-08-2014, 04:43 PM
why even go on?

Because part of a free market is taking private action to hold privately owned corporations accountable for their actions.

Ravi
05-08-2014, 04:58 PM
I'm she'd rather put some clothes on and go outside to play. Pretty sure the burns coupled with that cream and the bandages make clothing her impractical. It makes the image stronger, Ravi. This isn't nakedness to induce sexual arousal.
It makes it more emotional. It is an appeal to emotion, using a child as a tool to attack where there is actually no proof that she was harmed by a drone. I'm sure if she's told often enough, though, she'll grow up to join AQ to get her revenge.

How pathetic you people are.

Green Arrow
05-08-2014, 05:00 PM
It makes it more emotional. It is an appeal to emotion, using a child as a tool to attack where there is actually no proof that she was harmed by a drone. I'm sure if she's told often enough, though, she'll grow up to join AQ to get her revenge.

How pathetic you people are.

It's a fact that 200 children have been killed between 2009 and 2012 by this administration's drone strikes. Whether or not it was that specific child or not is irrelevant.

Ravi
05-08-2014, 05:01 PM
It's a fact that 200 children have been killed between 2009 and 2012 by this administration's drone strikes. Whether or not it was that specific child or not is irrelevant.
Because she's just a tool, right? :rolleyes:

Green Arrow
05-08-2014, 05:03 PM
Because she's just a tool, right? :rolleyes:

You'd know all about being a tool, wouldn't you? But no, not because she's just a tool. She's not a tool, she's a child.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 05:06 PM
It makes it more emotional. It is an appeal to emotion, using a child as a tool to attack where there is actually no proof that she was harmed by a drone. I'm sure if she's told often enough, though, she'll grow up to join AQ to get her revenge.

How pathetic you people are.

No, you are. You're fine with kids being killed as long as your elected officials are doing it.

BTW, the girl in this photo from Kokesh is not the one from your dippy article whose only proof, btw, is us saying "it wasn't us". It's one of the many kids hurt by our drones.

And you want to talk morality to me? Go get some first.

I know what I've done and I'll work that out with God, but I won't be justifying this shit anymore.

Ravi
05-08-2014, 05:09 PM
You'd know all about being a tool, wouldn't you? But no, not because she's just a tool. She's not a tool, she's a child.
How do you know I wasn't used as a tool as a child? You are so full of it.

She's a child being used as a tool.

Ravi
05-08-2014, 05:10 PM
No, you are. You're fine with kids being killed as long as your elected officials are doing it.

BTW, the girl in this photo from Kokesh is not the one from your dippy article whose only proof, btw, is us saying "it wasn't us". It's one of the many kids hurt by our drones.

And you want to talk morality to me? Go get some first.

I know what I've done and I'll work that out with God, but I won't be justifying this shit anymore.Link?

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 05:11 PM
How do you know I wasn't used as a tool as a child? You are so full of it.

She's a child being used as a tool.

She's a child who is a symbol of what we've done wrong and she's a child who will grow up and never have what others have thanks to us.

Green Arrow
05-08-2014, 05:12 PM
How do you know I wasn't used as a tool as a child? You are so full of it.

She's a child being used as a tool.

She's not being used as a tool. The fact that children are hurt and killed by drone strikes is my top reason for opposing them.

Codename Section
05-08-2014, 05:12 PM
Link?

Remember what you said about links the other day? :) Here's where I get to say "Google is your friend"--besides its in your own article.

Alyosha
05-08-2014, 05:28 PM
Unsurprising considering how much funding Facebook has received and their collusion with the US government, specifically the agency responsible for drones.

donttread
05-08-2014, 06:32 PM
It's a private company and can do what it wishes, but it shows what bullshit Facebook is

http://www.adamvstheman.com/facebook-aids-obama-in-war-crimes-cover-up/#.U2vXJ_ldVpt

’ve been getting text messages from concerned friends and fans for the last several hours about the official ADAM VS THE MAN Facebook page being down. I logged in, and it turns out that the meme below is the reason. This is a young girl who was badly burned in one of Obama’s drone strikes. As obscene as this photo is, it’s still only a small symbol of the pain experienced by millions in the Middle East suffering due to Obama’s war policies and the families of the hundreds of children who have been confirmed killed by Obama’s drone strikes.http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FOR-WAR-300x168.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FOR-WAR.jpg)Why does Facebook have an interest in covering up Obama’s war crimes? Well, if you know anything about Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerburg, you know he’d rather cozy up to the murderer-in-chief than call him out or tell the truth about his crimes. In fact, he won’t even let us portray the grizzly reality that is being kept from the American people. Here he is shmoozing with Obama at the Facebook Town Hall, but he’s also met with him in private. Facebook has cooperated extensively with the NSA and other government spy agencies.http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-townhall-meeting16-300x210.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-townhall-meeting16.jpg)Here’s what we were greeted with when logging in today:http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-censored-forwar-copy-300x175.jpg (http://www.adamvstheman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/facebook-censored-forwar-copy.jpg)The Facebook “Community Guidelines” are deliberately vague in order to “allow” this kind of blatant censorship. Of course Facebook is a “privately owned” (although publicly traded) company, and has the right to set the rules for participation on its platform. However, as a huge recipient of corporate welfare and such a broad platform for important information to be shared that can shed light on the crimes of governments all over the world, seeing this kind of support for a war criminal is still disheartening. Beheadings are regularly allowed on Facebook, along with war crimes committed by Obama’s foreign enemies, but despite the censorship, we can all see the emperor is more naked than the girl in the meme.We hope to have our page fully functional again, but Facebook does not even allow us to contest the removal of our page or the picture in question. While they point out that “pictures of personal importance such as breastfeeding or Michelangelo’s David” are acceptable, pictures depicting government crimes can get you kicked off. All the page admins and I are also blocked from posting ANYWHERE on Facebook so we can’t even post there to let people know about this. Facebook says this might only last 24 hours and we should review the rest of the content on the page. Petty as this may be, it is important to understand that the conversation is being distorted by the platform, and the incredible potential of the internet is not being realized. Please share this post.- Adam Kokesh

The feds really hate Adam and his firey young girlfriend, so they must be doing something right. While I agree that FB can do this if they wish , I also feel it was a dick move

donttread
05-08-2014, 06:34 PM
It makes it more emotional. It is an appeal to emotion, using a child as a tool to attack where there is actually no proof that she was harmed by a drone. I'm sure if she's told often enough, though, she'll grow up to join AQ to get her revenge.

How pathetic you people are.

Well we know for a fact that drone strikes killed a teen who was an American citizen and wasn't even accused of a crime. Do people think drone strikes somehow only wound and kill terrorist?

Alyosha
05-08-2014, 06:35 PM
It makes it more emotional. It is an appeal to emotion, using a child as a tool to attack where there is actually no proof that she was harmed by a drone. I'm sure if she's told often enough, though, she'll grow up to join AQ to get her revenge.

How pathetic you people are.

Why shouldn't it be emotional? Children are dying? How heartless you are!

Newpublius
05-08-2014, 06:41 PM
there is actually no proof that she was harmed by a drone.

But there are drones causing collateral damage, generally. The specific young girl is irrelevant. Let there be constant and consistent reminders about how disgusting war is.

LEST WE FORGET.