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Conley
04-04-2012, 02:22 PM
If there's one thing that draws everyone together, it's aliens. :grin:

So, what's this about?

The Rendlesham Forest Incident is the name given to a series of reported sightings of unexplained lights and the alleged landing of a craft or multiple craft of unknown origin in Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk, England, in late December 1980, just outside RAF Woodbridge, used at the time by the U.S. Air Force. Dozens of USAF personnel were eyewitnesses to various events over a two- or three-day period. Some ufologists believe it is perhaps the most famous UFO event to have happened in Britain, ranking amongst the best-known UFO events worldwide. Along with the Berwyn Mountain UFO incident, it has been compared to the Roswell UFO incident in the United States, and is sometimes referred to as "Britain's Roswell".[1]

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) denied that the event posed any threat to national security, and stated that it was therefore never investigated as a security matter. Later evidence indicated that there was a substantial MoD file on the subject, which led to claims of a cover-up; some interpreted this as part of a larger pattern of information suppression concerning the true nature of unidentified flying objects, by both the United States and British governments (see the UFO conspiracy theory). One such person to take this view was eyewitness and Deputy Base Commander Colonel Charles Halt (see below). When the file was released in 2001 it turned out to consist mostly of internal correspondence and responses to inquiries from the public. The lack of any in-depth investigation in the publicly released documents is consistent with the MoD's earlier statement that they never took the case seriously.[2][3] Included in the released files is an explanation given by defence minister Lord Trefgarne as to why the MoD did not investigate further.[4] Sceptics regard the sightings as misinterpretation of a series of nocturnal lights – a fireball, the Orford Ness lighthouse and bright stars.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

MMC
04-04-2012, 04:26 PM
Well according to the drama queen.....she has no problem posting right behind you. Guess it was a little slow. :f_run: :wink:

MMC
04-05-2012, 03:28 PM
Heya Ramone.....cmon on down and lets us know whats behind Curtian #1. Like I had said before we had a couple of things up on it. :wink:

Conley
04-05-2012, 07:08 PM
Heya Ramone.....cmon on down and lets us know whats behind Curtian #1. Like I had said before we had a couple of things up on it. :wink:

Thanks MMC. It does seem like there would be some good stories to tell.

ramone
04-05-2012, 08:38 PM
Yep, I was there and know people who saw the thing. I doubt anybody but people who know me would trust me to say it, but yes it was the real thing and I'll stand behind it 100 %. If anybody says otherwise then screw em. I know what I know.

The show on discover or history was very factual, Just saying. If you saw it then you know most everything that happened.


In case anybody has some stupid question, I was in the 81'st CRS, Tac fighter wing.

Conley
04-05-2012, 08:45 PM
Thanks Ramone, I will look around on Youtube and see if the episode or anything related is on there.

ramone
04-05-2012, 09:00 PM
Thanks Ramone, I will look around on Youtube and see if the episode or anything related is on there.

It's out there and it's real. Honestly to think we are alone in the vast universe is comical to me, it doesn't even make sense to think that. One reason I'm agnostic.

MMC
04-05-2012, 09:48 PM
It's out there and it's real. Honestly to think we are alone in the vast universe is comical to me, it doesn't even make sense to think that. One reason I'm agnostic.


Yeah we have Ancient Aliens thread to add to Ramone. I think i can add some stuff to this. looks like it will be a good thread.

Conley
04-05-2012, 09:53 PM
It's out there and it's real. Honestly to think we are alone in the vast universe is comical to me, it doesn't even make sense to think that. One reason I'm agnostic.

I agree, I think there is life out there but I think the bigger issue is the vast distances between us. Entire planets could give rise to life that dies out before we ever develop the technology to make contact. Still it's cool stuff to think about.

MMC
04-05-2012, 09:58 PM
I will look back and see what I got with some of the threads we had up on it. Just give some time to catch up.

ramone
04-05-2012, 11:35 PM
I agree, I think there is life out there but I think the bigger issue is the vast distances between us. Entire planets could give rise to life that dies out before we ever develop the technology to make contact. Still it's cool stuff to think about.

True, stars we are looking at now have died long ago. Kinda strange to think that life could have died off thousands of years ago but we can still see it as it was once, in a manner of speaking anyway.

Conley
04-05-2012, 11:51 PM
True, stars we are looking at now have died long ago. Kinda strange to think that life could have died off thousands of years ago but we can still see it as it was once, in a manner of speaking anyway.

Yeah, that is another way the universe messes with your head. It is really hard for me to wrap my head around that concept. Almost like we could see back in time to the original beginning of everything if we could catch up to the light that is at the farthest reaches of the universe. Can't believe I'm 100% sober right now. :cry: :laugh:

MMC
04-06-2012, 12:00 AM
The Rendlesham Forest Incident is the name given to a series of reported sightings of unexplained lights and the alleged landing of a craft or multiple craft of unknown origin in Rendlesham Forest (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest), Suffolk (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Suffolk), England, in late December 1980, just outside RAF Woodbridge, used at the time by the U.S. Air Force. Dozens of USAF personnel were eyewitnesses to various events over a two- or three-day period. Some ufologists believe it is perhaps the most famous UFO (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/UFO) event to have happened in Britain, ranking amongst the best-known UFO events worldwide. Along with the Berwyn Mountain UFO incident (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Berwyn_Mountain_UFO_incident), it has been compared to the Roswell UFO incident (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Roswell_UFO_incident) in the United States, and is sometimes referred to as "Britain's Roswell".[1] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-0)
The Ministry of Defence (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Ministry_of_Defence_(United_Kingdom)) (MoD) denied that the event posed any threat to national security, and stated that it was therefore never investigated as a security matter. Later evidence indicated that there was a substantial MoD file on the subject, which led to claims of a cover-up; some interpreted this as part of a larger pattern of information suppression concerning the true nature of unidentified flying objects, by both the United States and British governments (see the UFO conspiracy theory (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/UFO_conspiracy_theory)). One such person to take this view was eyewitness and Deputy Base Commander Colonel Charles Halt (see below (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#The_Halt_Affidavit)). When the file was released in 2001 it turned out to consist mostly of internal correspondence and responses to inquiries from the public. The lack of any in-depth investigation in the publicly released documents is consistent with the MoD's earlier statement that they never took the case seriously.[2] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-1)[3] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-2) Included in the released files is an explanation given by defence minister Lord Trefgarne as to why the MoD did not investigate further.[4] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-3) Sceptics regard the sightings as misinterpretation of a series of nocturnal lights – a fireball, the Orford Ness lighthouse and bright stars.....snip~

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

Thing is the skeptics don't even have the right to say shiznit.....this was a Military installation. So none of them would know anything about what is taking place around a place like this. So IMO the Skeptics can kiss my azz. There are no Other Better trained Observers than the Military.

ramone
04-06-2012, 12:11 AM
All skeptic theories have been debunked, The base CO was straight up and saw it. I know people who were in places I couldn't get to. It happened. Even the Brits, admitted it once, never confirmed it but admitted something happened.

Yeah, CL. It's hard to wrap your mind around something that happened millions of years ago that you can still see. Thing is that discoveries of the so called big bang and the supposed expanding universe can still be analyzed. That is cool, it really is.........

Alias
04-06-2012, 12:11 AM
As far as the universe goes, we're not living in "real time".

MMC
04-06-2012, 12:18 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Rafmap.png/220px-Rafmap.png

The incident occurred in the vicinity of two former military bases - RAF Bentwaters (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/RAF_Bentwaters), which is just to the north of the forest, and RAF Woodbridge (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/RAF_Woodbridge) which extends into the forest from the west and is bounded by the forest on its northern and eastern edges. At the time, both were being used by the United States Air Force (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/United_States_Air_Force) and were under the command of wing commander Colonel Gordon E. Williams (http://thepoliticalforums.com/w/index.php?title=Gordon_E._Williams&action=edit&redlink=1). The base commander was Colonel Ted Conrad, and his deputy was Lieutenant Colonel Charles I. Halt (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Charles_I._Halt). Halt's memo to the Ministry of Defence on the incident, and his personal involvement in the second night of the sightings, has given the case credibility.

Retired Sgt. John Burroughs (LE) states that the events took place over three successive nights (pm into am); 24–25, 25–26 and 26–27 December 1980. One of the key pieces of primary evidence (the "Halt memo", described below) suggests that the first sightings were on the 26th, rather than 25th. The memo was written almost two weeks after the event and its author later agreed that he had probably made a mistake in his recollection of the dates. This discrepancy in dates has not only confused subsequent researchers but also led to confusion at the time, for example in the MoD's investigation and analysis of contemporaneous radar records.....snip~

Burroughs time is the only dispute. He drew a copy of the ship that had landed. Touched it. Drew the symbols that were on it. There was a whole security detail. 2 others were with Burroughs. Both refuse to get involved or be involved with the event.

MMC
04-06-2012, 12:23 AM
Btw they had another episode of AAt's tonight on Puma Punco again. They now know that the area was destroyed by a flood that somehow rose over the Andes mountains.

The next episode on now is about the Bigfoots and the Yeti's.....they are talking about different cultures that were separated but all describing the same thing.

wingrider
04-06-2012, 12:44 AM
Btw they had another episode of AAt's tonight on Puma Punco again. They now know that the area was destroyed by a flood that somehow rose over the Andes mountains.

The next episode on now is about the Bigfoots and the Yeti's.....they are talking about different cultures that were separated but all describing the same thing.
i am curious about the timeline on the flood in the Andes .. sounds interesting

MMC
04-06-2012, 01:19 AM
i am curious about the timeline on the flood in the Andes .. sounds interesting

Yeah I didn't catch that. At the End I heard Georgio saying he believe the Et's destroyed Puma Punco. right now the episode on is about the greys. Talking about the Annaki and the Sumerians.

MMC
04-06-2012, 01:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb38oeQ7l00

Part One.

MMC
04-06-2012, 01:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwiG_fsszwc

Part Two.

MMC
04-06-2012, 01:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me8kgy1xh3w&feature=related

Part 3.

MMC
04-06-2012, 01:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T1GfmwRzDc&feature=related

Part 4.

MMC
04-06-2012, 01:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHctitq8LLs&feature=related

Part 5.....and the End piece from the UFO Hunters on this issue. :spacecraft:

MMC
04-06-2012, 02:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiIosz1Li88&feature=related

More on the incident back when these guys all brang it out. These guys all came out with the Call on to Washington. There was a special on it. I think we have those videos in the UFO Hunters Thread or Ancient Aliens.

They were young with this interview.

keyser soze
04-08-2012, 07:53 PM
It's talked about in this video...that and many others...credible. I believe we're being visited.

Out of the Blue - Full HD UFO Movie



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYPCKIL7oVw&feature=fvsr

MMC
05-26-2012, 08:41 AM
More UFO Hunters.....This Episode is on Code Red and what took place in 1965 in and around Edwards Aif Force Base. The Hunters were finally able to get whatever infor that was declassified.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQhCGddMBEc

Part 1. :smiley:

MMC
05-26-2012, 08:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ02cyJTfZs&feature=relmfu

Part Two. :shocked:

MMC
05-26-2012, 08:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfTGZzxtNWo&feature=relmfu

Part 3. :cool2:

MMC
05-26-2012, 08:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh1z-f5hv-c&feature=relmfu

Part 4. :satellite:

MMC
05-26-2012, 08:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQrYh0hZy24&feature=relmfu

Part 5 and the last piece.....:spacecraft:

Calypso Jones
05-26-2012, 09:13 AM
I never heard of this...but i've done a little reading up on it and it seems to be as much skepticism as there is belief that it was an actual ufo sighting.

I do think that these things are real but they are not extraterrestrial in the sense that they are beings from another planet. More like beings from another realm.

MMC
05-26-2012, 10:06 AM
Yeah so far we have been focusing more on the ones dealing with the Military or other governments. Now some of the NASA material has been declassfied there is an episode on some of the info they have had. Which we will eventually get up. Ramone is ex-military to and was at Bentwaters at the time.

While I do not discount some of them coming from another realm or maybe even from another time.....I do not discount what our Military has engaged themselves. Nor other militaries from other Countries. From Pilots to ground troops.

We also have another thread on Disclosure: Media stations and what they have reported. Governments, Physicists such Hawkins and the Chinese one on CNN all the time.

MMC
05-26-2012, 04:31 PM
Hey Ramone did you see this? This episode was on Edwards Air Force Base. From 1965!

ramone
05-26-2012, 05:32 PM
Hey Ramone did you see this? This episode was on Edwards Air Force Base. From 1965!

Don't think so, What network was it on?


Planet or realm, both about the same in our understanding of the grand design of things.

MMC
05-26-2012, 05:35 PM
Don't think so, What network was it on?

The History Channel and the Discovery.....check out the Videos when things get slow around here.(which that shouldnt be a problem) Figured we could go thru them and see if there is more info that has been released.

ramone
05-26-2012, 06:12 PM
This happened twice at Benwaters,,little know fact I think. I may have over spoke here but, it did. It's not classified as far as I know.

MMC
05-26-2012, 09:00 PM
This happened twice at Benwaters,,little know fact I think. I may have over spoke here but, it did. It's not classified as far as I know.

No it's not classfied anymore. Especially after Britian released theirs.

MMC
05-30-2012, 12:19 AM
Where are some of our Vets? Lets hear from some others that were in the military over these incidents. SO far these incidents involve the military. Those interested check out what we have, take your time and lets see what we come with.

Thats not to say others interested that were not in the Military cannot participate. :spacecraft:

Conley
05-30-2012, 12:30 AM
I need to watch the videos but when this stuff happens around bases my first thought is always it is some kind of military operation.

MMC
05-30-2012, 12:42 AM
I need to watch the videos but when this stuff happens around bases my first thought is always it is some kind of military operation.

Not to mention stuff being declassified after 40 some years. Moreover now that the NASA's stuff is being declassified. The Astronauts have also been coming out with what they have observed, witnessed and or encountered.

Naturally there is always cover with weapons testings and specialized projects. But when Military personell know they are experiencing something out of the ordinary, sound alarms, send out security details, send up planes, track objects showing on radar. Then there really is no getting around protocol. No matter how high up they go into the Government and Research and Development.

Were not talking about chasing something or encountering something that is not there. It is something and it is tangible, animate, and as many military personell and pilots say, moving with and intelligence behind it.

MMC
06-01-2012, 06:03 PM
Heya Pete did you see this.....we have the incident that took place with Edwards in 1965. I was trying to get some others with Military Experience and what they think.

FYI.....UFO Hunters are on Tonight. But the Episode that is on now is about what took place over Aurora Texas. Which isn't with Birnes and his crew.

Trinnity
06-02-2012, 03:16 AM
Yeah, that is another way the universe messes with your head. It is really hard for me to wrap my head around that concept. Almost like we could see back in time to the original beginning of everything if we could catch up to the light that is at the farthest reaches of the universe. Can't believe I'm 100% sober right now. :cry: :laugh:It IS seeing back in time, literally.
This stuff is an interest of mine.

Our Spitzer space telescope (an advancement over the Hubble) can see so far, it can see the earliest galaxies. They're so much in infancy that they're smudgy looking. That's because they're pre-formed and precede shapes we used to observing, such as elliptical, spiral, barred spiral (the Milky Way Galaxy), linticular, ring, starburst, irregular and interacting (the last one the result of two galaxies colliding).

Here's a decent article at wiki that describe galaxies:
http://schools-wikipedia.org/wp/g/Galaxy.htm

I could yak about this stuff all day....

wingrider
06-02-2012, 04:16 PM
has anyone here seen the movie area 51.. ?

Conley
06-02-2012, 04:19 PM
has anyone here seen the movie area 51.. ?

The only movie of that name I know about isn't out yet I don't think. This one?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1519461/

Conley
06-02-2012, 04:19 PM
Or this one?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1900817/

wingrider
06-02-2012, 04:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP-n1MlF7PE&feature=related



this one here is the full movie all of you enjoy when it gets quiet in here

wingrider
06-02-2012, 04:25 PM
the one I posted starred Bruce Boxlietner in the lead role

MMC
06-02-2012, 05:59 PM
:laugh: I don't think that movie was based on the true story. Now the Videos from Bentwaters and Edwards Air Force base are real. Which again was why I was trying to get our guys with military experience to respond to them.

Peter1469
06-02-2012, 06:05 PM
Heya Pete did you see this.....we have the incident that took place with Edwards in 1965. I was trying to get some others with Military Experience and what they think.

FYI.....UFO Hunters are on Tonight. But the Episode that is on now is about what took place over Aurora Texas. Which isn't with Birnes and his crew.

I did not see it. When I was enlisted and in Desert Storm I was at the tip of the 18th ABN Corps spear. While doing guard duty at night I often watched satellites overhead and saw what I assume to be lasers targeting for our aircraft. No crap- beams of light coming from satellites which appeared to guide our aircraft to target. I never thought of any theory that they were not satellites.....

MMC
06-02-2012, 06:08 PM
When ya get some time Pete check out the videos on Edwards. Then let us know what you think.