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dadakarma
04-05-2012, 10:49 AM
Does he ever think before he opens his mouth? :)


Romney, who has two Harvard degrees, says Obama spent 'too much time at Harvard'

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=vN_q0VhbJZ4

http://thinkprogress.org/special/2012/04/05/458987/romney-who-has-two-harvard-degrees-says-obama-has-spent-too-much-time-at-harvard/

Conley
04-05-2012, 11:06 AM
Doh! Classic. Besides, Mitt shouldn't be calling anyone out for getting an education. The way a couple of these guys speak, it's as if getting a college degree is a bad thing (of course they have plenty of degrees themselves). Bill O'Reilly's another Harvard guy himself. Oh, look at those fancypants elitists with their highfalutin book learnin' and such. :rollseyes:

dadakarma
04-05-2012, 11:14 AM
Doh! Classic. Besides, Mitt shouldn't be calling anyone out for getting an education. The way a couple of these guys speak, it's as if getting a college degree is a bad thing (of course they have plenty of degrees themselves). Bill O'Reilly's another Harvard guy himself. Oh, look at those fancypants elitists with their highfalutin book learnin' and such. :rollseyes:

LOL! And recall how recently Santorum called those seeking college education 'snobs'.

This is part of the dumbing-down strategy. The populace is much more compliant and easily led if they're ignorant and will swallow whatever bullshit it's fed. 'Dumb' became hip during Bush's terms. Everyone applauded the fact that the frat boy made 'Cs' at Yale and they all wanted to drink a beer with him. They found his inarticulation charming.

Mister D
04-05-2012, 11:15 AM
LOL! And recall how recently Santorum called those seeking college education 'snobs'.

This is part of the dumbing-down strategy. The populace is much more compliant and easily led if they're ignorant and will swallow whatever bullshit it's fed. 'Dumb' became hip during Bush's terms. Everyone applauded the fact that the frat boy made 'Cs' at Yale and they all wanted to drink a beer with him. They found his inarticulation charming.

College students regularly swallow all kinds of "bullshit".

Conley
04-05-2012, 11:19 AM
College students regularly swallow all kinds of "bullshit".

True, but getting an MBA from Harvard is different from a degree in art psychology from State U. Education is empowering and I think efforts to squash it are harmful to society but beneficial to those in power. You see it everywhere from African American communities to the statements of high ranking Republicans and at points in between. It is definitely in DC's best interest to keep the population uneducated and partisan.

Mister D
04-05-2012, 11:27 AM
True, but getting an MBA from Harvard is different from a degree in art psychology from State U. Education is empowering and I think efforts to squash it are harmful to society but beneficial to those in power. You see it everywhere from African American communities to the statements of high ranking Republicans and at points in between. It is definitely in DC's best interest to keep the population uneducated and partisan.

Generally speaking, I don't think your average American college graduate is particularly well educated. Sure, I'd imagine that Ivy League students are a tier above but they represent a tiny percentage of the overall number of university educated Americans. Furthermore, I don't see any correlation between education or a lack there of and partisanship.

Conley
04-05-2012, 11:32 AM
Furthermore, I don't see any correlation between education or a lack there of and partisanship.

Really? I think more educated people are more likely to look more deeply at issues, but as I think about it more, maybe it is more accurate to say that they possess the skills to do so if they choose. Education furthering critical thinking, reading comprehension, and related topics should give people the tools needed to evaluate issues. Given the liberal nature of college education across the country (on average) you are probably right that there is less of a correlation than I believe there should be in theory.

Mister D
04-05-2012, 11:38 AM
Really? I think more educated people are more likely to look more deeply at issues, but as I think about it more, maybe it is more accurate to say that they possess the skills to do so if they choose. Education furthering critical thinking, reading comprehension, and related topics should give people the tools needed to evaluate issues. Given the liberal nature of college education across the country (on average) you are probably right that there is less of a correlation than I believe there should be in theory.

They still fall prey to confirmation bias and their own prejudices. Yeah, I think that's a better way of putting it. A university education should show show a strong correlation with non-partisanship but many of our universities are not only dominated by a progressive ideology but far too many have become diploma mills as well.

Conley
04-05-2012, 11:41 AM
I can't argue with either of those two points. They are diploma mills that are run for profit, profit for both the schools and the lenders.

dadakarma
04-05-2012, 11:42 AM
Too bad none of this minutiae being discussed has any bearing on the fact that Romney sticks his foot in his mouth every time he opens it. :)

Conley
04-05-2012, 11:43 AM
Too bad none of this minutiae being discussed has any bearing on the fact that Romney sticks his foot in his mouth every time he opens it. :)

You don't like our discussion? :smiley:

dadakarma
04-05-2012, 11:47 AM
You don't like our discussion? :smiley:

It isn't a matter of like or dislike. I think it's funny how the focus was deliberately deflected from Romney's idiocy. Carry on. :)

Mister D
04-05-2012, 11:53 AM
Too bad none of this minutiae being discussed has any bearing on the fact that Romney sticks his foot in his mouth every time he opens it. :)

Yeah, the state of higher education in the US is but minutiae compared to a verbal gaffe Mitt Romney made at some gathering during the 2012 election. It could be that the topic just isn't very interesting and people would rather let thread develop into a discussion of real issues. :wink:

Mister D
04-05-2012, 11:54 AM
You don't like our discussion? :smiley:

She thinks we are Romney supporters, I guess. It's always amusing when rabid partisans project their illness like that.

Conley
04-05-2012, 11:58 AM
It isn't a matter of like or dislike. I think it's funny how the focus was deliberately deflected from Romney's idiocy. Carry on. :)

:grin: Most of our threads meander as you've seen...it's not necessarily deliberate.

dadakarma
04-05-2012, 12:02 PM
:grin: Most of our threads meander as you've seen...it's not necessarily deliberate.

I'm aware. I wasn't complaining, I was laughing. ;)

Alias
04-05-2012, 12:32 PM
I'm aware. I wasn't complaining, I was laughing. ;)

What are you going to do if Obamacare gets struck down by the USSC?

Mister D
04-05-2012, 12:35 PM
What are you going to do if Obamacare gets struck down by the USSC?

I'm sure the Koch brothers inspired conspiracy theories will keep her occupied for months. :grin:

Mainecoons
04-05-2012, 12:37 PM
Straight from Democrat Underground, another partisan thread from Dodo, whoops, I mean Dada.

Haven't you figured out yet we find this stuff boring? Haven't you also figured out yet this group isn't very fond of Romney?

You need to get out from under that rock you've been living under, notice that your entitlement state dream is collapsing almost everywhere, figure out that there are more sources of information out there than the DNC, and get with the program.

:grin:

Alias
04-05-2012, 12:41 PM
I'm sure the Koch brothers inspired conspiracy theories will keep her occupied for months. :grin:

Those Kock brothers are nasty. They gave 10 million to charity last year. Anytime some leftist dweeb flashs "Koch brothers" like a parrot, just remind them of that and ask how much they gave to charity.

GRUMPY
04-05-2012, 01:02 PM
Doh! Classic. Besides, Mitt shouldn't be calling anyone out for getting an education. The way a couple of these guys speak, it's as if getting a college degree is a bad thing (of course they have plenty of degrees themselves). Bill O'Reilly's another Harvard guy himself. Oh, look at those fancypants elitists with their highfalutin book learnin' and such. :rollseyes:

son is this yet something else you did not actually listen too before commenting.....dada before you get your panties in a wad racing to connie's rescue, listen to the audio and think about the backgrounds of these two men.....further one might consider that the last four president's of this nation were ivy league boys and we are now a once great nation in rapid decline....this boy who would be president in particular established the office of the president elect full of the smartest liberals in the country, has been acclaimed as the most brilliant to ever hold the office, hailed his own election as that time when the seas would cease to rise and the planet cool yada yada and of course has surrounded himself with similar thinking academic fascist elites with no real world experience at doing anything other than soaking the taxpayers; did i hear you ask as to what effect...a stagnant economy, high unemployment, skyrocketing debt and inflation, a stridently divided country, unilateral disarmament and of course the so-called arab spring....but he did get a gay pride flag raised on a us military installation......great....

dadakarma
04-05-2012, 01:03 PM
"boy"

Got it.

GRUMPY
04-05-2012, 01:06 PM
"boy"

Got it.

no son, you are incapable of getting it......

ramone
04-05-2012, 01:18 PM
Too bad none of this minutiae being discussed has any bearing on the fact that Romney sticks his foot in his mouth every time he opens it. :)

You mean like Biden, the Democratic wizard of speech? Yeah, you're right. I figure them to be the same, mentally challenged.

Dagny
04-05-2012, 02:15 PM
Does he ever think before he opens his mouth? :)


Romney, who has two Harvard degrees, says Obama spent 'too much time at Harvard'

He can't stop stepping on his tongue. At his acceptance speech the other night, he referred to being in 'business school'. He won't say Harvard, because he's trying to appeal to the commoners that he'd 'like to fire'.

He's going to get the base. Nobody else is going to vote for him.

keyser soze
04-05-2012, 02:31 PM
Straight from Democrat Underground, another partisan thread from Dodo, whoops, I mean Dada.

Haven't you figured out yet we find this stuff boring? Haven't you also figured out yet this group isn't very fond of Romney?

You need to get out from under that rock you've been living under, notice that your entitlement state dream is collapsing almost everywhere, figure out that there are more sources of information out there than the DNC, and get with the program.

:grin:
You find this 'stuff' boring but taking the time to post all about dada is the bomb...I get it.

dadakarma
04-05-2012, 03:30 PM
You find this 'stuff' boring but taking the time to post all about dada is the bomb...I get it.

He didn't even cite the correct link. :) These people don't read, Mr. Soze. That's why they vote for nutjobs like Romney, Bush, etc.

Alias
04-05-2012, 03:34 PM
He didn't even cite the correct link. :) These people don't read, Mr. Soze. That's why they vote for nutjobs like Romney, Bush, etc.

Do you think Obama is a smart man?

ramone
04-05-2012, 09:09 PM
Do you think Obama is a smart man?

Most likely she does, I figure the imbecile voted for him and will do it again. It was an attempt to push the country into a socialistic society brought on by the democratic machine. The thing they do not understand that democracy, followed by socialism, leads to authoritarianism. When that comes to be, then they will be the ones begging for food and being enslaved by their captors who they put into power. Good luck to them, I'm not buying it and will not be enslaved.

Alias
04-06-2012, 09:13 AM
Most likely she does, I figure the imbecile voted for him and will do it again. It was an attempt to push the country into a socialistic society brought on by the democratic machine. The thing they do not understand that democracy, followed by socialism, leads to authoritarianism. When that comes to be, then they will be the ones begging for food and being enslaved by their captors who they put into power. Good luck to them, I'm not buying it and will not be enslaved.

See, it's so difficult for most of us to believe that totalitarianism is what anyone would actually desire, but that's what a few people want. They actually believe that govt can bring a utopia. All of a sudden, a magic govt is going to arise like some science fiction metropolis from the depths of the deep blue ocean. They think this is just one big movie.

Mainecoons
04-06-2012, 09:39 AM
That's the interesting bit that liberals just don't get. If in point of fact their ideas produced some kind of utopia, that is, if their ideas actually worked instead of what we are seeing now as the western world sinks into economic decay brought on largely by too much government, we would be enthusiastic supporters. Who among us doesn't really want a "great society" in which there is no poverty or underclass? Who doesn't want everyone to have the best medical care available? Who doesn't want utopia?

The difference is that we look at what works and what doesn't. For example, the greatest decrease in poverty came during the Clinton presidency, not from all those government programs that mainly employ overpaid government workers and sqander most of the resources leaving little for the intended recipients, but from the robust growth of the private sector and private sector jobs. So right in front of our eyes we have had a demonstration of what works and what doesn't.

What works is free enterprise and putting people to work. What doesn't work is public programs that have squandered 3 trillion on a "war" on poverty with no discernible result other than a number of bad ones, such as the explosion in unwed motherhood in the poverty class. What works is understanding the difference between equal opportunity and equal outcomes. The former is a laudable goal of a society, the latter is just more of the same failed socialist nonsense based on a perception of human nature that is flawed at the core.

Liberals are so busy villifying and demonizing anyone who disagrees with them that they miss two simple realities: Virtually all of us share the same goals, but some of us take the time to see whether or not our policies and programs actually achieve them.

Ironically, the classic definition of conservatism is resistance to change but after six decades of trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, is is liberals who can't let go of their failure and move on. So who is really resistance to change here?

tinkerbell
04-06-2012, 01:44 PM
I dont care were the Republican nominee went to school. JUST BEAT BAMA!!

dadakarma
04-06-2012, 01:48 PM
LOL! Romney inserts his other foot:


A flight of recent polling has suggested that Mitt Romney and the GOP have a “women problem (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/mitt-romneys-women-problem/2012/04/01/gIQAE17mpS_blog.html),” losing support among half the voting population in swing states at a dramatic pace.

Asked about the issue in a Newsmax interview (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-healthcare-obama-supreme/2012/04/04/id/434881) yesterday, Mitt Romney not only acknowledged the existence of the problem, but also accepted that the recent debate over contraception caused it. But don’t worry, Romney said, just wait until voters see “our real position,” as Democrats have “distorted” the debate:


ROMNEY: But there’s no question that over the past several weeks, that a discussion about religious liberty was distorted into a discussion about contraceptives. And there was the somehow Republicans are opposed to contraceptives. I think it was most unfortunate twist by our Democrat friends. I think this will pass as an issue as people understand our real position.


http://thinkprogress.org/special/2012/04/05/459182/mitt-romney-addresses-women-problem/

:rofl:

Alias
04-06-2012, 01:48 PM
I dont care were the Republican nominee went to school. JUST BEAT BAMA!!

Second that. This administration is a first class collosal glittering disaster.

Alias
04-06-2012, 01:49 PM
LOL! Romney inserts his other foot:



http://thinkprogress.org/special/2012/04/05/459182/mitt-romney-addresses-women-problem/

:rofl:

More women are unemployed and under-employed by this administration than the previous one.

tinkerbell
04-06-2012, 01:59 PM
We can't afford four more years of this guy. I was really hoping obama would make a good president but he turned out to be a nightmare!! Oh, I sure didnt vote for him.

keyser soze
04-06-2012, 03:15 PM
He's a great Republican president....

Mainecoons
04-06-2012, 03:16 PM
Hello Tink! Max the Magnificent Maine Coon sends a big meow your way.

I didn't have any hope about Obama. Unfortunately, I took the time to notice the kind of people he has associated with from the time he was a young man and his stunning lack of real achievements and hard work. I did hope that he would at least not continue the same old foreign military misadventurism as all the rest of them. No such luck.

dadakarma
04-06-2012, 03:18 PM
He's a great Republican president....

I call him 'Bush Lite'.

He's still worlds better than the coke-addled, spoiled frat boy.

Alias
04-06-2012, 03:19 PM
He's a great Republican president....

Naw. He's all yours. The left fainted and prostrated themselves. and now the left is like Peter in the Garden denying he ever knew Jesus. Funny stuff.

keyser soze
04-06-2012, 03:20 PM
Agree...but for a Democrate he sure has some fucked up policy.

Alias
04-06-2012, 03:23 PM
I call him 'Bush Lite'.

He's still worlds better than the coke-addled, spoiled frat boy.

Oh, yes. Obama is gobs better than Bush. Gobs and gobs.

dadakarma
04-06-2012, 03:24 PM
Agree...but for a Democrate he sure has some fucked up policy.

A lot of that has to do with the fact that since the GOP platform now represents the agenda of the extreme right-wing nutjobs who hijacked it, everything has lurched to the right, including centrism. What is called the 'center' is actually center/right.

Mainecoons
04-06-2012, 03:24 PM
He, and Bush, are just a great demonstration of the fact that Republicrats and Demicans pretty much share the same philosophy. It is all about the agenda of the ruling elite. The rest of it is just window dressing.

We used to say that Republicans favored borrow and spend and Democrats favored tax and spend. But these days they seem to be very bipartisan about borrowing and spending.

Mainecoons
04-06-2012, 03:26 PM
Yeah, boy those Republicans are really slashing the budget. Wowza!

You might want to notice how many of those left-wing nut jobs are running around the White House these days. I sure miss Bill Clinton.

Alias
04-06-2012, 03:27 PM
A lot of that has to do with the fact that since the GOP platform now represents the agenda of the extreme right-wing nutjobs who hijacked it, everything has lurched to the right, including centrism. What is called the 'center' is actually center/right.

Hardly. It just appears the repubs are very right wing because the Dems have moved so far left. JFK would have been a conservative today.

Alias
04-06-2012, 03:28 PM
I hear those damn republicans are gonna shut off the air conditioning in all the nursing homes this August.