Racist Conservatives Pick Ted Cruz and Beb Carson in Presidential Straw Poll

[Libhater]

A Black and a Hispanic puled in 60 percent of vote among attendees at the Republican Leadership Conference. Al Sharpton was no where to be found to explain that anomaly.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/15761/racist-conservatives-pick-ted-cruz-ben-carson-presidential-straw-poll/

[Cigar]

Only Republicans care about Straw Polls :laugh: ... then win them all the time :grin:

[del]

cruz and carson are two of the biggest pulers out there; it doesn't surprise me that they got 60%

neither one would make a decent dog catcher, but it's cool, neither one of them will win

[The Wash]

A medical doctor with the power to save lives or another lawyer. I'm guessing we'll go with a lawyer. They've always worked out in the past.

[Green Arrow]

Only way I vote GOP in 2016 is if Rand Paul is the nominee.

[Spectre]

cruz and carson are two of the biggest pulers out there; it doesn't surprise me that they got 60%

neither one would make a decent dog catcher, but it's cool, neither one of them will win
You realize that both of them are simply off the charts brilliant--to quote Alan Dershowitz on Ted Cruz's intellect (Dershowitz is a progressive, keep in mind), and that you are mentally retarded by comparison--you know this, right?

[Spectre]

Only way I vote GOP in 2016 is if Rand Paul is the nominee.
Why do you even bother to so compromise and soil your dainty and delicate anarchist principles as to vote at all?

One would think that voting is beneath such an enlightened being as yourself.

[Green Arrow]

Why do you even bother to so compromise and soil your dainty and delicate anarchist principles as to vote at all?

One would think that voting is beneath such an enlightened being as yourself.

I don't believe voting is contrary to anarchism. Voting can and will exist in an anarchist system, in fact. Some of my anarchist brethren would argue that voting in our current statist system is contrary to anarchism, but I don't believe that. My vote doesn't matter, it's just something I do out of principle.

[del]

You realize that both of them are simply off the charts brilliant--to quote Alan Dershowitz on Ted Cruz's intellect (Dershowitz is a progressive, keep in mind), and that you are mentally retarded by comparison--you know this, right?

it isn't often one sees an appeal to the authority of alan dershowitz, legend in his own mind

that's pretty funny

[Common Sense]

But Cruz was born in Canada...how's that going to work out? Left wing birthers?

[Green Arrow]

But Cruz was born in Canada...how's that going to work out? Left wing birthers?

If his parents were U.S. citizens and he was born on a U.S. military base, he's fine.

[del]

If his parents were U.S. citizens and he was born on a U.S. military base, he's fine.

his father didn't become naturalized until 2005

i don't think we maintain any bases in alberta

[Common Sense]

If his parents were U.S. citizens and he was born on a U.S. military base, he's fine.

His mother was American and his father was Cuban...and there are no American military bases in Canada.

[texan]

Racist = Liberal Strategy.............and Pimp money making.

It used to be when someone didn't like it they took their ball and went home. Now they just yell racist. Whats even more comincal is racists calling others racist. people think because they call themselves a democrat they are not white I guess. If you are white you are a racist as the pimps will tell you, get the strategy now?

[nic34]

Too bad neither are electable.... keeping with the caribou barbie tradition. :laugh:

[nic34]

His mother was American and his father was Cuban...and there are no American military bases in Canada.

Gosh, do you think they missed that little tidbit?

[Common Sense]

Gosh, do you think they missed that little tidbit?

What I find funny is it's the exact same scenario as Obama being born in Kenya. American mother, foreign father, born outside of the US. The only difference is Obama was actually born on US soil. There is another difference, but I digress...

[1751_Texan]

I wish doc Carson and Mr. Cruz much luck. It would be awesome to have either as the GOP's nominee.

[del]

I wish doc Carson and Mr. Cruz much luck. It would be awesome to have either as the GOP's nominee.

it certainly would

[Alyosha]

US military personnel stationed on Canadian bases in quarters have an island/reservation like an embassy. Such was his case. We have British troops in Virginia. Same courtesy is given to them.

[del]

US military personnel stationed on Canadian bases in quarters have an island/reservation like an embassy. Such was his case. We have British troops in Virginia. Same courtesy is given to them.

his father wasn't in the military; he ran an oil exploration company

[Alyosha]

his father wasn't in the military; he ran an oil exploration company

He released his birth certificate and I thought it had him listed as being born on a base. Regardless his mother is a US citizen.

I could care less I wouldn't vote for him either way. I also didn't vote for Obama and it had nothing to do with where he was born but how badly he sucks.

Suck>where you are born

[Spectre]

I love all you people saying about every Republican candidate mentioned except for that strange bird Rand Paul that you will not vote for him.

In that case, if there is a repeat of the 2012 election results and Hilary Clinton becomes president because of 3 or 4 million Republican votes that didn't show up again, I must ABSOLUTELY INSIST that there be NO bitching about the 4 or 8 years of the Hildebeest administration. I insist on complete SILENCE from you people. By not showing up and making a difference, you have lost the moral right to complain. You have made yourselves non-factors, non-players.

[Codename Section]

I'm only voting for Rand Paul. I hate progressives on either side of the aisle. See I want government smaller not ​larger.

[del]

rand paul won't shrink the govt any more than obama made it transparent.

[texan]

Obama claimed to be a foreign student to get his college paid for and won't release the documents. Does that bother you? Is he an American or did he lie for college? It's one of the two.

[Green Arrow]

His mother was American and his father was Cuban...and there are no American military bases in Canada.

Really? Interesting...I did not know this.

[Green Arrow]

I love all you people saying about every Republican candidate mentioned except for that strange bird Rand Paul that you will not vote for him.

In that case, if there is a repeat of the 2012 election results and Hilary Clinton becomes president because of 3 or 4 million Republican votes that didn't show up again, I must ABSOLUTELY INSIST that there be NO bitching about the 4 or 8 years of the Hildebeest administration. I insist on complete SILENCE from you people. By not showing up and making a difference, you have lost the moral right to complain. You have made yourselves non-factors, non-players.

Tell you what. How about you get over yourself instead, buck up, and deal with it.

[Mainecoons]

I think it is very likely that Obama lied to get foreign student aid and I think it is possible that his real father is Frank Marshall Davis or someone else. The BC is an obvious forgery but that doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't born in Hawaii.

What I do know is that we've never had a POTUS who has a history like this that we know so little about. At this point, the question is moot. What is very apparent is that he was well schooled in American anti-American liberal theology. In that respect, he's definitely one of us.

[Cigar]

Obama claimed to be a foreign student to get his college paid for and won't release the documents. Does that bother you? Is he an American or did he lie for college? It's one of the two.


Do you think that will hurt him for a Third Presidential Election :grin:

[Redrose]

But Cruz was born in Canada...how's that going to work out? Left wing birthers?

Cruz was born in Canada to parents who were US citizens just working temporarily in Canada. He's a US citizen. Now Obama was a completely different situation.

Even if Obama was really born in Hawaii, his young mother didn't meet the age and residency requirements. Obama is not a legal citizen.

[zelmo1234]

Too bad neither are electable.... keeping with the caribou barbie tradition. :laugh:

Racist!

[Codename Section]

rand paul won't shrink the govt any more than obama made it transparent.

I disagree. His actions have shown he's willing to do it. Obama's showed that he knew how to avoid voting.

[del]

I disagree. His actions have shown he's willing to do it. Obama's showed that he knew how to avoid voting.

what actions?

[Codename Section]

what actions?

I'll make a list of all the bill's he's gone across the aisle to work on and promote and post it for you tomorrow. Right now I am too over this stupid to put in the energy.

[del]

I'll make a list of all the bill's he's gone across the aisle to work on and promote and post it for you tomorrow. Right now I am too over this stupid to put in the energy.

fine by me

[nic34]

I disagree. His actions have shown he's willing to do it. Obama's showed that he knew how to avoid voting.

That's the problem with assuming high office.... you never know all the rules until you're there.

He would be even less effective as prez..... dems won't play nice and repubs will split even further...

[Redrose]

Do you think that will hurt him for a Third Presidential Election :grin:

tertium non datur

[Common Sense]

Cruz was born in Canada to parents who were US citizens just working temporarily in Canada. He's a US citizen. Now Obama was a completely different situation.

Even if Obama was really born in Hawaii, his young mother didn't meet the age and residency requirements. Obama is not a legal citizen.

Again, stuff like this is awesome.

Cruz's father was Cuban, btw and Obama's mother was an adult (18) when she gave birth to him on US soil.

[texan]

Birthright citizenship[edit (http://thepoliticalforums.com/w/index.php?title=Citizenship_in_the_United_States&action=edit&section=8)]Main article: Birthright citizenship in the United States of America (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Birthright_citizenship_in_the_United_States_of_Ame rica)
U.S. citizenship is usually acquired by birth when a child is born in the territory of the United States. In addition to the U.S. States (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/U.S._States), this includes the District of Columbia (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Washington,_D.C.), Guam (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Guam), Puerto Rico (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Puerto_Rico), the Northern Mariana Islands (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Northern_Mariana_Islands) and the U.S. Virgin Islands (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/U.S._Virgin_Islands).[30] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-30)[31] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-31)[32] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-32) Citizenship, however, was not specified in the original Constitution (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/United_States_Constitution). In 1868 the Fourteenth Amendment (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion) specifically defined persons who were either born or naturalized (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Naturalization) in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction as citizens. All babies born in the United States—except those born to enemy aliens in wartime or the children of foreign diplomats—enjoy U.S. citizenship under the Supreme Court's (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States) long-standing interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment.[33] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-tws19nova16-33) The amendment states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." [34] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-34) There remains dispute as to who is "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States at birth.[35] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-35)
By acts of Congress, every person born in Puerto Rico (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Puerto_Rico), the U.S. Virgin Islands (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/United_States_Virgin_Islands), Guam (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Guam), and the Northern Mariana Islands (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Northern_Mariana_Islands) is a United States citizen by birth.[36] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-36) Also, every person born in the former Panama Canal Zone (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone) whose father or mother (or both) are or were a citizen is a United States citizen by birth.[37] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-37)
Regardless of where they are born, children of U.S. citizens are U.S. citizens in most cases. Children born outside the United States with at least one U.S. citizen parent usually have birthright citizenship by parentage (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Birthright_citizenship_in_the_United_States#Statut e.2C_by_parentage).


Case closed he is indistutably an American.

[Redrose]

Again, stuff like this is awesome.

Cruz's father was Cuban, btw and Obama's mother was an adult (18) when she gave birth to him on US soil.

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986." Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, US Law very clearly stipulates: "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.

[Common Sense]

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986." Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, US Law very clearly stipulates: "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.

I guess it's a good thing he was born on US soil then.

I do like your little copy and paste...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

[donttread]

A Black and a Hispanic puled in 60 percent of vote among attendees at the Republican Leadership Conference. Al Sharpton was no where to be found to explain that anomaly.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/15761/racist-conservatives-pick-ted-cruz-ben-carson-presidential-straw-poll/

One of the best things that could happen to blacks as race would be if Al Sharpton really was "no where to be found"

[Green Arrow]

Why do you people treat chain emails as gospel truth? It is baffling.

[texan]

Obama is a US Citizen until he needed college money then he became a foreign exchange student. He chose this path of high character and honesty.

[Common Sense]

Why do you people treat chain emails as gospel truth? It is baffling.

It's amazing. If you tell people what they want to hear, they'll eat it up.

I've seen dozens posted as truth. No attempt to check the credibility.

[bladimz]

A medical doctor with the power to save lives or another lawyer. I'm guessing we'll go with a lawyer. They've always worked out in the past.This country was won by the blood, sweat and tears of American progressives, but the paperwork was done up by the lawyers.

[bladimz]

Why do you people treat chain emails as gospel truth? It is baffling.It truly is. I have a cousin like that... Relatives; you can pick your nose, but you...well, you know.

[bladimz]

Obama is a US Citizen until he needed college money then he became a foreign exchange student. He chose this path of high character and honesty.There's no such thing as a politician of high character and honesty...

[texan]

It still smacks of irony every time common sense posts something.