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Mr. Right
06-11-2014, 08:36 AM
Eric Cantor- R of Virgina has lost his primary election bid to Dave Brat, an economics and ethics professor at Randolph- Macon College in Ashland.

This is great news for the nation, but probably too little too late. Seeya, Cantor.....

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dave-brat-meet-candidate-beat-eric-cantor/story?id=24081628

Chris
06-11-2014, 08:39 AM
How can this be when the establishment GOPers here announced the death of the Tea Parties not too long ago.

Perianne
06-11-2014, 08:46 AM
I heard on TV (no link) that Cantor had decided the GOP leaders in Washington should ban together to show up the Tea Party.

Matty
06-11-2014, 08:46 AM
I thought it was the left doing the announcing.

Chris
06-11-2014, 08:49 AM
I thought it was the left doing the announcing.

Both actually. THe left is more vociferous, but the right has more to fear in losing elections like this.

exotix
06-11-2014, 09:02 AM
Tea Partiers outing Tea Partiers ?

Lots to say about that.

By the way, congratulations Cantor .. you made American history by becoming the first Majority Leader to be assed-out in a primary.

exotix
06-11-2014, 09:08 AM
I heard on TV (no link) that Cantor had decided the GOP leaders in Washington should ban together to show up the Tea Party.
I believe that would be breaking the law ... Virginia apparently has a strict adherence to it's Sore Loser Law ... basically meaning Cantor can't be political in any way.

nic34
06-11-2014, 09:08 AM
Open primary..... seems the r&f repubs didn't show up. They're mad at cantors immigration stance. Ruby red district tho.... so what, who cares.

midcan5
06-11-2014, 10:42 AM
I have a hard time wondering why this is great news for the nation or for anyone? As I wrote earlier doing nothing replaced by doing nothing is still nothing. It is sorta funny that the land of immigrants is now the land of intolerance towards immigrants, but there is also a racist or ethnic element to this xenophobia, no one mentions all the other groups entering by plane or boat, it is only the Hispanic who gets attention. That (If) Cantor lost because of his immigration positions is only further proof the right wing in America is a hateful self centered narcissistic loony bin. Its voters lost in the spin of anti all things that once made the nation a refuge for all people.

On another note I went to school with the likes of Brat and I gotta say they are one weird entitled group of mini fascists or corporatists. Remember the hierarchy of the Catholic church is their model for thought and society, it gives credence to their holier than thou partisanship. You see that in the scotus with Scalia, Alito, and Roberts, same people, same bizarre narrow minded wisdom.

Captain Obvious
06-11-2014, 10:48 AM
How can this be when the establishment GOPers here announced the death of the Tea Parties not too long ago.

One election doesn't make or break a party.

And really, there is no "tea party".

There's liberals, there's conservatives.

Period.

Captain Obvious
06-11-2014, 10:49 AM
I have a hard time wondering why this is great news for the nation or for anyone? As I wrote earlier doing nothing replaced by doing nothing is still nothing. It is sorta funny that the land of immigrants is now the land of intolerance towards immigrants, but there is also a racist or ethnic element to this xenophobia, no one mentions all the other groups entering by plane or boat, it is only the Hispanic who gets attention. That (If) Cantor lost because of his immigration positions is only further proof the right wing in America is a hateful self centered narcissistic loony bin. Its voters lost in the spin of anti all things that once made the nation a refuge for all people.

On another note I went to school with the likes of Brat and I gotta say they are one weird entitled group of mini fascists or corporatists. Remember the hierarchy of the Catholic church is their model for thought and society, it gives credence to their holier than thou partisanship. You see that in the scotus with Scalia, Alito, and Roberts, same people, same bizarre narrow minded wisdom.

Besides people like Germanicus (for clear and obvious reasons), you're probably one of the most fucked up people I've ever ran into on the internet.

Seriously.

nic34
06-11-2014, 10:53 AM
Besides people like Germanicus (for clear and obvious reasons), you're probably one of the most fucked up people I've ever ran into on the internet.

Seriously.

I don't know, sounded a lot like you.... at times.... :wink:

Captain Obvious
06-11-2014, 10:55 AM
I don't know, sounded a lot like you.... at times.... :wink:

Go soak your head.

Codename Section
06-11-2014, 11:01 AM
I have a hard time wondering why this is great news for the nation or for anyone? As I wrote earlier doing nothing replaced by doing nothing is still nothing. It is sorta funny that the land of immigrants is now the land of intolerance towards immigrants, but there is also a racist or ethnic element to this xenophobia, no one mentions all the other groups entering by plane or boat, it is only the Hispanic who gets attention. That (If) Cantor lost because of his immigration positions is only further proof the right wing in America is a hateful self centered narcissistic loony bin. Its voters lost in the spin of anti all things that once made the nation a refuge for all people.

On another note I went to school with the likes of Brat and I gotta say they are one weird entitled group of mini fascists or corporatists. Remember the hierarchy of the Catholic church is their model for thought and society, it gives credence to their holier than thou partisanship. You see that in the scotus with Scalia, Alito, and Roberts, same people, same bizarre narrow minded wisdom.


Blah blah liberals always right blah blah conservatives suck blah blah I'm not a partisan blah blah whatever...

Captain Obvious
06-11-2014, 11:01 AM
Blah blah liberals always right blah blah conservatives suck blah blah I'm not a partisan blah blah whatever...

Yeah, exactly.

That one trick gets old.

Codename Section
06-11-2014, 11:07 AM
Yeah, exactly.

That one trick gets old.

There are "liberals" I like, Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Russ Feingold was awesome and then there are those I don't. There are things about Hillary that I find tolerable and things I don't.

What I can't stand is the unthinking idea that if it's (D/R) it's bad. Like Common and Mattie last night were both arguing for government control over X/Y when they want it and no control over X/Y when they don't...people just don't see that they have more in common with each other and the other party's ideas than they think.

For example, Obamacare--It was a Heritage Foundation idea primarily and when (R) Romney put it to work in Mass that was okay because, umm, like ummm a conservative did it. When Obama's administration does it suddenly it sucks ass. On the flip side, Democrats and their flag wavers LOVE it even though its a huge gimme to insurance providers and a fuck you to hospitals and doctors...and the lower middle class.

You keep poking at me about being a libertarian and I'll tell you why, it's because I am so fucking sick of the double standards, hypocrisy and inconsistency of party flag wavers​.

Captain Obvious
06-11-2014, 11:08 AM
There are "liberals" I like, Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Russ Feingold was awesome and then there are those I don't. There are things about Hillary that I find tolerable and things I don't.

What I can't stand is the unthinking idea that if it's (D/R) it's bad. Like Common and Mattie last night were both arguing for government control over X/Y when they want it and no control over X/Y when they don't...people just don't see that they have more in common with each other and the other party's ideas than they think.

For example, Obamacare--It was a Heritage Foundation idea primarily and when (R) Romney put it to work in Mass that was okay because, umm, like ummm a conservative did it. When Obama's administration does it suddenly it sucks ass. On the flip side, Democrats and their flag wavers LOVE it even though its a huge gimme to insurance providers and a fuck you to hospitals and doctors...and the lower middle class.

You keep poking at me about being a libertarian and I'll tell you why, it's because I am so fucking sick of the double standards, hypocrisy and inconsistency of party flag wavers​.

Be careful, you're starting to sound like me.

Pretty soon partisan hacks will be calling you a liberal and you'll be heckling threads and posting gifs of dogs humping.

Libhater
06-11-2014, 11:23 AM
There are "liberals" I like, Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Russ Feingold was awesome and then there are those I don't. There are things about Hillary that I find tolerable and things I don't.

What did you just flip your wig? Bernie Sanders is a self avowed socialist/commie. You don't get out much, do you? I can understand the capt oblivious liking that commie, but I'm a bit surprised you fell for it.

Mr. Right
06-11-2014, 12:20 PM
What did you just flip your wig? Bernie Sanders is a self avowed socialist/commie. You don't get out much, do you? I can understand the capt oblivious liking that commie, but I'm a bit surprised you fell for it.

Never know, one of his kids may have found his computer on and decided to fool around a bit. LOL! It's not so much the R vs. D arguement that gets to me. JFK was a democrat with lots of GOOD ideas. Bad ideas come from both sides, but sucking the life out of taxpayers so that a group can breed and be idle just for the sake of it, is one dumb ass idea.

nathanbforrest45
06-11-2014, 12:26 PM
There are two basic beliefs in the political world. Those that want to control you and those that don't. Liberals want to control you and somehow believe that by controlling you they are offering freedom. Conservatives (and not CINO's) don't want to control you but believe you can make your own mind up in your own rational self interest. Both mainstream Democrats and Republicans today believe in some form of control. Democrats want to control everything, Republicans only want to control 99% of everything.

The Sage of Main Street
06-11-2014, 01:29 PM
Conservative Republicans only want to control 99% of everything. Why wouldn't a 1% clique of soft, spoiled, sheltered sissyboys want to control the 99% and force them to become welfare escapists or submissive pacifists? Real Americans outnumber the bloated gated-community weaklings 99 to 1 and could crush them like grapes if we stopped whining and started making wine.

exotix
06-11-2014, 01:34 PM
There are two basic beliefs in the political world. Those that want to control you and those that don't. Liberals want to control you and somehow believe that by controlling you they are offering freedom. Conservatives (and not CINO's) don't want to control you but believe you can make your own mind up in your own rational self interest. Both mainstream Democrats and Republicans today believe in some form of control. Democrats want to control everything, Republicans only want to control 99% of everything.
That's nice ... can you name an (R) who would dare to not uphold the Kochs ?

nic34
06-11-2014, 01:38 PM
For example, Obamacare--It was a Heritage Foundation idea primarily and when (R) Romney put it to work in Mass that was okay because, umm, like ummm a conservative did it. When Obama's administration does it suddenly it sucks ass. On the flip side, Democrats and their flag wavers LOVE it even though its a huge gimme to insurance providers and a fuck you to hospitals and doctors...and the lower middle class.



Heritage Foundation idea?

Careful, they'll be calling you a liberal now.... :laugh:

Chris
06-11-2014, 04:05 PM
Heritage Foundation idea?

Careful, they'll be calling you a liberal now.... :laugh:

Obamacare and the Heritage Foundation idea are worlds apart.

Mr. Right
06-11-2014, 09:23 PM
That's nice ... can you name an (R) who would dare to not uphold the Kochs ?

Would you give me the name of one (D) who wouldn't worship at the Soros altar?

Codename Section
06-11-2014, 09:34 PM
That's nice ... can you name an (R) who would dare to not uphold the Kochs ?

Can you name a (D) that actually refused their money? Neither can I. Look at the donations, Dems don't have a problem taking their money, either.

exotix
06-12-2014, 07:49 AM
Would you give me the name of one (D) who wouldn't worship at the Soros altar?
Can you name a (D) that actually refused their money? Neither can I. Look at the donations, Dems don't have a problem taking their money, either.
Why ?

Which (D) did Virginia Tea Partiers ass-out in this election ?

LOL

Ransom
06-12-2014, 07:57 AM
That's nice ... can you name an (R) who would dare to not uphold the Kochs ?

Running things in Washington is expensive, Exo. Here is the list of donors to Obama's 2012 re-election...at a time when Member Exotix didn't care about money's influence on campaigns. Obama received more donations from Corporate America...and you voted for him. Just another oops in the long line of them for you, Herdmember.



Microsoft Corp (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000115)
$814,645


Google Inc
$801,770


US Government
$728,647


Harvard University (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000544)
$668,368


Kaiser Permanente
$588,386


Stanford University
$512,356


Deloitte LLP (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000131)
$456,975


Columbia University
$455,309


Time Warner (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000094)
$442,271

Matty
06-12-2014, 08:01 AM
Can you name a (D) that actually refused their money? Neither can I. Look at the donations, Dems don't have a problem taking their money, either.

Why don't you ask he/she/it why democrats whine about the Koch brothers but never utter a peep about GE?

exotix
06-12-2014, 08:02 AM
Running things in Washington is expensive, Exo. Here is the list of donors to Obama's 2012 re-election...at a time when Member Exotix didn't care about money's influence on campaigns. Obama received more donations from Corporate America...and you voted for him. Just another oops in the long line of them for you, Herdmember.



Microsoft Corp (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000115)
$814,645


Google Inc
$801,770


US Government
$728,647


Harvard University (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000544)
$668,368


Kaiser Permanente
$588,386


Stanford University
$512,356


Deloitte LLP (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000131)
$456,975


Columbia University
$455,309


Time Warner (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000094)
$442,271



Yes ?

Who of these corps. donated the half-million dollars to Cantors' campaign ?

Ransom
06-12-2014, 08:29 AM
Look at the next in line for 2012 Obama contributions. Is that nearly $650,000 from State and Justice?



US Dept of State
$417,629


DLA Piper (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000021569)
$401,890


Sidley Austin LLP
$400,883


Walt Disney Co (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000128)
$369,598


IBM Corp
$369,491


University of Chicago
$357,185


University of Michigan
$339,806


Comcast Corp (http://thepoliticalforums.com/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000461)
$337,628


US Dept of Justice
$334,659


US Dept of Health & Human Services
$309,956

Ransom
06-12-2014, 08:30 AM
No...it's nearly 750,000 from State and Justice. Another 300,000 from...Health and Human Services.

wow.

Ransom
06-12-2014, 08:36 AM
When no more hands went up, Obama began circulating around the room, going table to table counterclockwise. At some past events, the president’s team would arrange for an empty chair to be at each table — “the Elijah chair,” as some donors call it — so that Obama would have a place to sit. But with the event oversubscribed, Obama stayed on his feet. He seemed affable, guests said, more willing to banter than usual. An aide lingered nearby, unobtrusively moving Obama along, while a photographer from the campaign took candid shots that would later be made available to the guests.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/magazine/obamas-not-so-hot-date-with-wall-street.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0