Liberals And Conservatives

[Chris]

Not sure how they define liberal or conservative but according to 4 Ways Liberals And Conservatives Are Totally Different (And 3 Ways They’re The Same) (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/4-ways-liberals-and-conservatives-are-totally-different-and) (just the headings and graphs):


Pew Research Center released a massive new study on American politics this week. The takeaway: America is a lot more politically polarized today than it has been in the past. But while liberals and conservatives may be sticking together more and more, the research shows they also have some things in common.

Differences:


1. Liberals like to live in the city. Conservatives prefer suburban and country life.

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2. Liberals and conservatives are divided on gun control, pretty much in the way you’d expect.

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3. Conservatives want leaders who’ll “stick to their positions,” while liberals want leaders who compromise.

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4. Atheists are not popular among conservatives.

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Similarities:


1. Everyone wants to live near their family.

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2. No one likes the NSA.

3. No one wants to cut Social Security.

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[Mainecoons]

Obviously liberals like compromise because in practice it has meant mostly getting their way and growing government and taxation.

What is different now is that people are beginning to wake up and realize that is how it works and reject liberal-style compromise.

Liberals like Nic love Republicrats because they basically are fellow travelers in expanding government and raising taxes and have been so for quite some time.

By and large, establishment Republicans are Democrat Lite with a love of wasteful "defense" spending and warmongering thrown in for good measure.

If you think you are a conservative and you support the Republican establishment, I have news for you. What you really are is a big government neocon.

[kilgram]

The most interesting is that according to this study. Atheists or non-believers are the devil.

[Chris]

The most interesting is that according to this study. Atheists or non-believers are the devil.


So, liberals like you think God and religion the devil, so it balances out.

[PolWatch]

lib & con are just words used to keep Americans from remembering they are all Americans. While fighting over unimportant differences, the voter is less likely to notice what the politicians are really doing. When ya think its 'them v/s us'...remember 'they' are the politicians and 'we' are the voters....

[Adelaide]

Obviously liberals like compromise because in practice it has meant mostly getting their way and growing government and taxation.

What is different now is that people are beginning to wake up and realize that is how it works and reject liberal-style compromise.

Liberals like Nic love Republicrats because they basically are fellow travelers in expanding government and raising taxes and have been so for quite some time.

By and large, establishment Republicans are Democrat Lite with a love of wasteful "defense" spending and warmongering thrown in for good measure.

If you think you are a conservative and you support the Republican establishment, I have news for you. What you really are is a big government neocon.

I don't think that's what compromise means. It's meeting somewhere in the middle when two or more parties have opposite views. I don't think it means Liberals always getting their way.

[PolWatch]

a good compromise means neither party is completely happy with the result...

[Chris]

I don't think that's what compromise means. It's meeting somewhere in the middle when two or more parties have opposite views. I don't think it means Liberals always getting their way.

No, it does. Example, a couple fiscal cliffs ago Obama suggested a compromise, if Republicans agreed to raise the debt ceiling, Democrats would agree to cut by a percentage point or two the rate in increase in spending. The Republicans compromised and allowed the debt ceiling to be raised, but when it came time to reduce the rate of increase of spending, the Democrats whined and again got their way in a new compromise. That is fairly typical in the US.

The problem I might add is Republicans are far too compromising.

[kilgram]

So, liberals like you think God and religion the devil, so it balances out.
Religion is bad :) And history proves it.

Give power to religion and you have Islamic countries, but with the religion that has got that power.

And no. I am not liberal. I am anarchist. My position is not the one kept by Liberals or atheists. My position comes from my anarchist vision of the world.

And in difference with the religious people. I don't have problem with a theist. Even if a descendant married with a religious I would not have any problem with that. I would not care. It is the least important for me.

[Chris]

Found it! More on the Pew study...

The single most important fact about American politics (http://www.vox.com/2014/6/13/5803768/pew-most-important-fact-american-politics)

"Perhaps the single most important fact about American politics is this: the people who participate are more ideological and more partisan, as well as angrier and more fearful, than those who don't."


1) There are three kinds of polarization — and they're becoming one kind of dangerous mega-polarization

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2) Don't mix up polarization and extremism

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3) Republicans and Democrats hate each other

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4) Republicans and Democrats fear each other

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5) Politicians want their supporters angry and afraid

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6) Conservatives are more likely to identify as conservatives than liberals are to identify as liberals

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7) Conservatives and liberals don't just want different policies. They want different lives in different places with different people.

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[Chris]

Religion is bad :) And history proves it.

Give power to religion and you have Islamic countries, but with the religion that has got that power.

And no. I am not liberal. I am anarchist. My position is not the one kept by Liberals or atheists. My position comes from my anarchist vision of the world.

And in difference with the religious people. I don't have problem with a theist. Even if a descendant married with a religious I would not have any problem with that. I would not care. It is the least important for me.


Modern anarchy arises out of liberalism. You're a liberal in the broader sense just like the rest of us.

You're not special, most modern liberals hate religion too.

[Mister D]

I have to admit I would not like an atheist in the family if it was the kind of atheist who can't stop talking about his atheism.

[Mister D]

Religion is bad :) And history proves it.

Give power to religion and you have Islamic countries, but with the religion that has got that power.

And no. I am not liberal. I am anarchist. My position is not the one kept by Liberals or atheists. My position comes from my anarchist vision of the world.

And in difference with the religious people. I don't have problem with a theist. Even if a descendant married with a religious I would not have any problem with that. I would not care. It is the least important for me.

From your perspective, sure. Religion created your culture and civilization. You hate both ergo...

Anyway, no, Islam and Christianity, for example, created two very different kinds of societies. Indeed, two different kinds of men.

[Bob]

Obviously liberals like compromise because in practice it has meant mostly getting their way and growing government and taxation.

What is different now is that people are beginning to wake up and realize that is how it works and reject liberal-style compromise.

Liberals like Nic love Republicrats because they basically are fellow travelers in expanding government and raising taxes and have been so for quite some time.

By and large, establishment Republicans are Democrat Lite with a love of wasteful "defense" spending and warmongering thrown in for good measure.

If you think you are a conservative and you support the Republican establishment, I have news for you. What you really are is a big government neocon.

This is my version of Democrats idea of compromise

Democrat

You stand right there and I will punch you with all my might, in your face 100 times

Republican

No, not one time

Democrat

Let's compromise. I hit your face 50 times

Republican, no way

Democrat

See folks, this turd refuses to compromise

[Ethereal]

I have to admit I would not like an atheist in the family if it was the kind of atheist who can't stop talking about his atheism.

Those people are just as annoying as people who cannot stop talking about their religion.

[Bob]

I don't think that's what compromise means. It's meeting somewhere in the middle when two or more parties have opposite views. I don't think it means Liberals always getting their way.

Watch the US Senate if you think Reid and his gang ever meet in the middle.

Their idea of compromise is you can create amendments and we kill all of them.

Pelosi was the same way.

[Bob]

a good compromise means neither party is completely happy with the result...

A good example of this is the wife wants a spotless home. She realizes a clean home is safer, more healthy and comfortable.

Slob says let's compromise.

She says, in what way

He says, I will keep the house messy for half the week

Then you get to clean up the other half

This is democrats idea of compromise

Do you women blame us for turning down the Demorats? We like clean homes.

[Chris]

This is my version of Democrats idea of compromise

Democrat

You stand right there and I will punch you with all my might, in your face 100 times

Republican

No, not one time

Democrat

Let's compromise. I hit your face 50 times

Republican, no way

Democrat

See folks, this turd refuses to compromise

And just about then the Republican does compromise, always does.

[Chris]

I have to admit I would not like an atheist in the family if it was the kind of atheist who can't stop talking about his atheism.


Those people are just as annoying as people who cannot stop talking about their religion.


My family compromised and we don't discuss religion/atheism at all. Other than my mother saying now and then, do you remember Sister Mary ____, she retired, or she died. I once said, Christopher Hitchens died, but they didn't know who he was.

[Bob]

Religion is bad :) And history proves it.

Give power to religion and you have Islamic countries, but with the religion that has got that power.

And no. I am not liberal. I am anarchist. My position is not the one kept by Liberals or atheists. My position comes from my anarchist vision of the world.

And in difference with the religious people. I don't have problem with a theist. Even if a descendant married with a religious I would not have any problem with that. I would not care. It is the least important for me.

There are several very bad ways to run government.

Religion produces bad results.

So does communism, socialism and the like.

Democrats in the USA refuse to tolerate religion they claim, yet the want to run government as if it is religion.

How you ask?

By acting as if Government is charity.

Government is not charity. Government is not the local shop of freebies. Government is not to manage lives. Government is protection. Government is more like the Mafia protection racket.

[Mister D]

Those people are just as annoying as people who cannot stop talking about their religion.

You'd expect people to talk about what is a large part of their lives. You wouldn't expect them to talk about their lack of belief anymore than you'd expect a someone who doesn't like baseball to keep talking about the Yankees.

[Mainecoons]

The most interesting is that according to this study. Atheists or non-believers are the devil.

The survey says that conservatives mostly wouldn't be happy about a family member marrying an atheist.

There's no mention of the devil. Try reading what is there and not making stuff up.

[Ransom]

You'd expect people to talk about what is a large part of their lives. You wouldn't expect them to talk about their lack of belief anymore than you'd expect a someone who doesn't like baseball to keep talking about the Yankees.

Indeed, many go into detail why and how there can be no God until you explain to them that if there is no God...then there are no atheists.

[Chris]

Indeed, many go into detail why and how there can be no God until you explain to them that if there is no God...then there are no atheists.

If there were no God, there would be no atheists? I'd love to hear that explanation myself.