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Conley
04-11-2012, 08:19 AM
It was supposed to be an olive branch from the dictator's son, an apology for those who had died at the start of the Libyan uprising, a pledge to reform Muammar Gaddafi's four-decade old regime.

But when Saif al-Islam Gaddafi appeared on television on February 20 last year, he sounded just like his defiant and rambling father.

Wagging a finger at the camera, Saif al-Islam blamed Libyan exiles for fomenting the violence and warned of more bloodshed. There was mention of reform to Libya's constitution, but it was hardly an offer of compromise.

"We will keep fighting until the last man standing, even to the last woman standing," he said.

The speech, the first by a Gaddafi family member after Libya's uprising began on February 17, 2011, was all the more confrontational because of who made it. Saif al-Islam Gaddafi had been hailed - at home and abroad - as the Western-educated, business-friendly face of Libya, a reformer who could bring the country back in from the cold. Here he was sounding like a belligerent hardliner.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/11/us-libya-saif-idUSBRE83A0DL20120411

Interesting profile.


"To me it's a great modern tragedy," adviser Barber said. "And if there was a modern Sophocles or Aeschylus around, they would write it."

MMC
04-11-2012, 01:34 PM
It was supposed to be an olive branch from the dictator's son, an apology for those who had died at the start of the Libyan uprising, a pledge to reform Muammar Gaddafi's four-decade old regime.

But when Saif al-Islam Gaddafi appeared on television on February 20 last year, he sounded just like his defiant and rambling father.

Wagging a finger at the camera, Saif al-Islam blamed Libyan exiles for fomenting the violence and warned of more bloodshed. There was mention of reform to Libya's constitution, but it was hardly an offer of compromise.

"We will keep fighting until the last man standing, even to the last woman standing," he said.

The speech, the first by a Gaddafi family member after Libya's uprising began on February 17, 2011, was all the more confrontational because of who made it. Saif al-Islam Gaddafi had been hailed - at home and abroad - as the Western-educated, business-friendly face of Libya, a reformer who could bring the country back in from the cold. Here he was sounding like a belligerent hardliner.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/11/us-libya-saif-idUSBRE83A0DL20120411

Interesting profile.

Well before the conflict there were pics of Gadhafi's kid with the Clintons. Moreover just how much did Dad give to that Clinton Global Initative? Gadhafi was having Big Azz parties up in England and France. Where anybody who is somebody always showed up to party and get money from him. Then they all turned on him. To oust him it took the West.

As you were correct that the Libyan Rebels could not do it by themselves. Those Rebels consisted of a smaller tribe of Berbers (the minority within, and former rulers), then the MB, AQ, and a Couple of Mulahs.

I am surprised Gadhafi's son is still alive to tell you the truth. But then again after his Dad's death and his body being paraded around. The New Rulers might have the word out not to touch him.

Conley
04-11-2012, 01:45 PM
He will probably be tried and executed.

MMC
04-11-2012, 01:55 PM
He will probably be tried and executed.

That will leave his daughter. Plus she is an attorney as well. Still, I was looking to see what Berbers were closer to the Gadhafi's to see who would fill the niche.

waltky
06-14-2016, 01:53 AM
Ex-Qaddafi officials purged...
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Qaddafi-era officials shot after release from prison
Tue, Jun 14, 2016 - EXECUTED: The bodies of the former officials, who were arrested between 2011 and 2014, were found in various parts of Tripoli, a prosecutor told the media


Gunmen have killed 12 Libyans after their release from jail for taking part in acts of repression during the 2011 revolt against former Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi, officials said on Sunday. A Tripoli court ordered the conditional release of the former regime officials on Thursday last week, and on Friday their bullet-riddled bodies were found in the capital, the prosecution said on its Facebook page. An investigation into the murders has begun, it added. The victims had been imprisoned on charges of committing abuses during the NATO-backed uprising that toppled and killed Qaddafi. They were freed on condition that they report to the prosecutor every two weeks.

The UN special envoy to Libya Martin Kobler condemned the murders and called for a prompt and “transparent” investigation. Kobler tweeted that he was “shocked and dismayed by the reports of murder of so many detainees released by a Tripoli court.” The Government of National Accord also denounced what it called a “despicable crime.” A statement on its Facebook page called on security and judiciary authorities to find the assailants and bring them to justice. Seddiq es-Sour, of the prosecutor’s office, told Libyan television the bodies were found in various parts of the capital and confirmed that all were former prisoners.


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Soldiers from forces aligned with Libya’s new unity government are pictured during an advance on the Islamic State stronghold of Sirte

He said they had been arrested between 2011 and 2014. The identities of the victims were not immediately released. Earlier this month, es-Sour had said the supreme court had ordered the release of six Qaddafi regime officials pending an appeal, for reasons linked to their health and age. Dozens of people are on trial in Libya for their role in the violent suppression of the revolt, including two sons of Qaddafi and former government officials. In July last year, several people were sentenced to death, including Saif al-Islam, Qaddafi’s son and one-time heir apparent.

Separately, a suicide bomber on Sunday killed three people at a field hospital for forces fighting Islamic State militants in their Libyan coastal stronghold of Sirte, a security source said, and medical staff appealed for help in treating the wounded. The bomber also wounded seven others and caused extensive damage to the hospital, about 50km from the front line, the source said. Two other attempted suicide bombings just outside the center of Sirte did not cause casualties, he said.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2016/06/14/2003648600

Peter1469
06-14-2016, 05:03 AM
Hillary destroyed Libya.

AeonPax
06-14-2016, 05:12 AM
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Despite what the US government and MSM say, life in Libya was actually pretty good under Muammar Gaddafi:

Facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about ! (http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-884508)

Peter1469
06-14-2016, 05:23 AM
It was the model for North Africa.

MMC
06-14-2016, 06:35 AM
Ex-Qaddafi officials purged...
http://www.politicalforum.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
Qaddafi-era officials shot after release from prison
Tue, Jun 14, 2016 - EXECUTED: The bodies of the former officials, who were arrested between 2011 and 2014, were found in various parts of Tripoli, a prosecutor told the media

Yes.....they are always shocked and call for transparency. Like that will ever happen.:rollseyes:

MMC
06-14-2016, 06:37 AM
Hillary destroyed Libya.

Hillary was just the Patsy.....it was The French behind it all. They tricked Hillary and Rice quite easily. Played them like marks.

Then Hillary talked BO peep into it. Despite being played for a fool.

Mark III
06-14-2016, 07:45 AM
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Despite what the US government and MSM say, life in Libya was actually pretty good under Muammar Gaddafi:

Facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about ! (http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-884508)

Among other things Gaddafi was a serial rapist.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf3_1348468809

MMC
06-14-2016, 08:01 AM
Among other things Gaddafi was a serial rapist.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf3_1348468809

Had a sex problem like Bill Clinton, huh? Imagine that.

AeonPax
06-14-2016, 10:11 AM
Among other things Gaddafi was a serial rapist.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf3_1348468809
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So was Bill Clinton.