Tea Party Strong

[Redrose]

We just got home from the TP event, Gov. Sarah Palin, Janine Pirro, Col. Allen West and Sen. Rob Santorum. Great event, packed house. West said the liberal left is only 20% and conservative people is 40%. Those numbers have remained consistent for over 40 years but conservatism has slowly been shrinking. So why is the 20% running the show? The answer is they are unified, unified to "fundamentally" change America, and they are winning, and having the biased media covering their butt, they are gaining ground. He and the others said we must get our act together. We're running out of time. We must send our best people to Congress to back up the few good ones there. Get involved, get informed and get the message out.


PS. All four spoke for 40 minutes each WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER.

[Perianne]

I wish I could have been there!

[Redrose]

I wish I could have been there!
I wish I had arms like Pirro. Great, well toned. She and Palin looked amazing. I had my photo taken with Palin and West.

[Refugee]

We just got home from the TP event, Gov. Sarah Palin, Janine Pirro, Col. Allen West and Sen. Rob Santorum. Great event, packed house. West said the liberal left is only 20% and conservative people is 40%. Those numbers have remained consistent for over 40 years but conservatism has slowly been shrinking. So why is the 20% running the show? The answer is they are unified, unified to "fundamentally" change America, and they are winning, and having the biased media covering their butt, they are gaining ground. He and the others said we must get our act together. We're running out of time. We must send our best people to Congress to back up the few good ones there. Get involved, get informed and get the message out.


PS. All four spoke for 40 minutes each WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER.

I think people sometimes forget what a determined minority can achieve. It’s why America has gay marriages and mass unopposed immigration. It’s because people either don’t care or have no way of stopping it so it just gets passed into law. Put these people into top positions in schools, government and the media, which is where they are and you can do an awful lot of damage in small numbers. When it fails, as it always does, you can blame Bush or Reagan, or just blame it on buzzwords; racism, homophobia, the rich . . . . . and it becomes the fault of people themselves.

For instance, you’ll rarely hear the benefits of immigration discussed. What you will hear that it’s not working because you’re a racist or a RWNJ. The idea of mass immigration itself is diverted because it can’t be wrong and so when eventually the system itself starts to collapse, it’s your fault because you opposed it, so but for you and people like you it would have worked. You heard it with the Obamacare; if it works isn’t socialized medical care a good idea, but if it fails it’s all the fault of the Senate and people like you for opposing it. You hear it a lot in communist countries; the endless repetition of five-year plans that didn’t work because of sabotage, reactionaries, the bourgeoisie . . . what the left don’t understand is it’s the ideal that is wrong; you can’t create a workable society on dreams and wishes of what should be.

Personally, as part of my job I lecture in 45 minute periods daily. Obama tried it in Europe recently and got a slow hand clap as he muffled and stumbled over his words without a prepared script. That’s because when he has to address clever and articulate people instead of the party faithful, with sentences that actually have meaning instead of catch phrases, he makes a complete fool of himself. Reid and Pelosi are the same – false sincerity with a big photogenic smile and nothing to say that makes any sense to those who think about the content – it just sounds good and always with lots of give-a-way freebies and promises about the future. It’s why you can google the gaffs and stupid remarks of these people and they’re seemingly endless and why the speeches of those who oppose them make sense and seem so relevant to everyday life.

There you are, a little English rant. :smiley:

[Perianne]

Refugee

When I started posting here again, someone told me that I would like you. That person was correct. You are very wise, sir.

[Refugee]

@Refugee (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1060)

When I started posting here again, someone told me that I would like you. That person was correct. You are very wise, sir.

At your service Ma'am. :yo2: :wink:

[Peter1469]

LTC. Not COL.


We just got home from the TP event, Gov. Sarah Palin, Janine Pirro, Col. Allen West and Sen. Rob Santorum. Great event, packed house. West said the liberal left is only 20% and conservative people is 40%. Those numbers have remained consistent for over 40 years but conservatism has slowly been shrinking. So why is the 20% running the show? The answer is they are unified, unified to "fundamentally" change America, and they are winning, and having the biased media covering their butt, they are gaining ground. He and the others said we must get our act together. We're running out of time. We must send our best people to Congress to back up the few good ones there. Get involved, get informed and get the message out.


PS. All four spoke for 40 minutes each WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER.

[exotix]

The tea party is nothing more than Hitler marching on the govt. known as the Beer Hall Putsch.

[Peter1469]

The tea party is nothing more than Hitler marching on the govt. known as the Beer Hall Putsch.

Hitler wanted lower taxes and less government? Who knew!

[exotix]

Hitler wanted lower taxes and less government? Who knew!
One only has to go over to the 'Sharia Law is preferred' thread to *be warned*

[Peter1469]

One only has to go over to the 'Sharia Law is preferred' thread to *be warned*

Was Hitler in favor of lowering taxes on the Jooos?

[zelmo1234]

One only has to go over to the 'Sharia Law is preferred' thread to *be warned*

Preferred to what , is the question that we must ask, To Communism and total government control of a mindless life? YES!

The of government that the founding fathers outlined in the constitution and the Democrats are trying to change to the Above? NO!

[exotix]

Preferred to what , is the question that we must ask, To Communism and total government control of a mindless life? YES!

The of government that the founding fathers outlined in the constitution and the Democrats are trying to change to the Above? NO!
Believe me ... if Congress was to be under the kind of Jurisdiction and *honor* of that of the Army ... anything with an (R) before it would have long gone the way of McCrhystal if not Leavenworth.

[1751_Texan]

We just got home from the TP event, Gov. Sarah Palin, Janine Pirro, Col. Allen West and Sen. Rob Santorum. Great event, packed house. West said the liberal left is only 20% and conservative people is 40%. Those numbers have remained consistent for over 40 years but conservatism has slowly been shrinking. So why is the 20% running the show? The answer is they are unified, unified to "fundamentally" change America, and they are winning, and having the biased media covering their butt, they are gaining ground. He and the others said we must get our act together. We're running out of time. We must send our best people to Congress to back up the few good ones there. Get involved, get informed and get the message out.


PS. All four spoke for 40 minutes each WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER.

Did you have to pay an entrance fee? Did you buy a book? What was the purpose of going to a rally of people that could never win in a national election???

[zelmo1234]

Believe me ... if Congress was to be under the kind of Jurisdiction of that of the Army ... anything with an (R) before it would have long gone the way of McCrhystal if not Leavenworth.

Actually if you look at the Socialist take overs that todays liberals such as yourself are pushing for. The first thing the government does is gets ride of the Uber rich, because they need to confiscate their money! That would include Soro's and Buffet, as well as the dreaded Koch brothers you get the picture.

Liberals such as yourself will cheer this on and sometimes even help them do this because you actually believe that they are going to distribute e the money to you?

But they don't, they keep it to build an all powerful government and start to for people to work at a lower standard of living to support the government machine! This is going to be the working middle class and upper middle class, largely Republicans in this country.

Because they know that the lower class that they created to help overthrow the country can't be reformed and are mindless zombies, These are Democrats such as yourself for example. They kill them!

So it is not likely the (R)s that would have the problem in the new communist America that you seek, but it is you that they will be coming to get rid of?

You see after you help them take power, you have nothing left to offer that greater good? so you will have to go!

That is actually the funny part about Socialism? they kill the people that really wanted it?

[Mainecoons]

Did you have to pay an entrance fee? Did you buy a book? What was the purpose of going to a rally of people that could never win in a national election???

One of the things one learns with age is to never say "never."

:grin:

[exotix]

Actually if you look at the Socialist take overs that todays liberals such as yourself are pushing for. The first thing the government does is gets ride of the Uber rich, because they need to confiscate their money! That would include Soro's and Buffet, as well as the dreaded Koch brothers you get the picture.

Liberals such as yourself will cheer this on and sometimes even help them do this because you actually believe that they are going to distribute e the money to you?

But they don't, they keep it to build an all powerful government and start to for people to work at a lower standard of living to support the government machine! This is going to be the working middle class and upper middle class, largely Republicans in this country.

Because they know that the lower class that they created to help overthrow the country can't be reformed and are mindless zombies, These are Democrats such as yourself for example. They kill them!

So it is not likely the (R)s that would have the problem in the new communist America that you seek, but it is you that they will be coming to get rid of?

You see after you help them take power, you have nothing left to offer that greater good? so you will have to go!

That is actually the funny part about Socialism? they kill the people that really wanted it?
I mean don't get me wrong ... the teaparty does pretty good ... it has govt. representation destroying America from within with it's rag-tag sects of true believers on the outside armed to the teeth with military-grade assault-weapons waiting for the moment to take the country back ... fueled by the same ideologue as muslim jihadism.

Take a bow.

[zelmo1234]

I mean don't get me wrong ... the teaparty does pretty good ... it has govt. representation destroying America with it's rag-tag sects of true believers armed to the teeth with military-grade weapons waiting for the moment to take the country back ... all the same ideologue as muslim jihadism.

I understand how you could feel that why?

And accept for the fact that the TEA party has nothing to do with challenging the current government, but reforming it and making it small and less expensive? That might have been a valid point.

Now there are militia's out there and they are on the right and the left. and both think that our current government is getting out of control.

But that has nothing to do with the tea party?

I can understand why you would be confused, see you have been trained by the system and are not capable of research and thinking for yourself.

That is why if you ever get what you think that you want? You will have to be exterminated. So those in the TEA party actually get the last laugh.

[sachem]

We just got home from the TP event, Gov. Sarah Palin, Janine Pirro, Col. Allen West and Sen. Rob Santorum. Great event, packed house. West said the liberal left is only 20% and conservative people is 40%. Those numbers have remained consistent for over 40 years but conservatism has slowly been shrinking. So why is the 20% running the show? The answer is they are unified, unified to "fundamentally" change America, and they are winning, and having the biased media covering their butt, they are gaining ground. He and the others said we must get our act together. We're running out of time. We must send our best people to Congress to back up the few good ones there. Get involved, get informed and get the message out.


PS. All four spoke for 40 minutes each WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER.It seems if the TP is that strong then things will happen for them.

Personally, I think things have changed so much that they can never go back. At least not very much. And that assumes that America ever really existed.

[exotix]

It seems if the TP is that strong then things will happen for them.

Personally, I think things have changed so much that they can never go back. At least not very much. And that assumes that America ever really existed.
Excellent point ... the last govt. shutdown is simple proof ... especially concerning Executive Orders ... Obama could simply have ordered the treasury to mint and issue a Trillion Dollar coin to keep the Govt. from collapsing ...

Instead, he simply called their bluff and said ... ok, let's default.

The teabaggers went into instant panic ... they didn't know how too stop what they started ... and that's how Rand Paul & Mitch McConnell were the winners ... simply broker an extortion of $2 Billion to Kentucky to prevent a default on America and the world.

And they will do it again now that they know this is how to legislate.

[Peter1469]

:smiley:


Excellent point ... the last govt. shutdown is simple proof ... especially concerning Executive Orders ... Obama could simply have ordered the treasury to mint and issue a Trillion Dollar coin to keep the Govt. from collapsing ...

Instead, he simply called their bluff and said ... ok, let's default.

The teabaggers went into instant panic ... they didn't know how too stop what they started ... and that's how Rand Paul & Mitch McConnell were the winners ... simply broker an extortion of $2 Billion to Kentucky to prevent a default on America and the world.

And they will do it again now that they know this is how to legislate.

[PolWatch]

Sarah Palin was recently a speaker at a high school graduation in New Hope, Alabama....to great acclaim. Want some information about her target audience? The latest census shows population: 95% white, per capita income: under $16,000 per year, education: 1,156 people in the community had a high school degree, or 68.7 of the population (compared to the national average of 80.40%). One of the major flag wavers of the tea party opts to target lily-white, poor, marginally educated groups...and these are the people who are going to 'restore' this country? no thank you...

[Redrose]

The tea party is nothing more than Hitler marching on the govt. known as the Beer Hall Putsch.
That comment shows how little you know. You are basing you opinion on the propaganda put out by the loony left. That is a foolish way to go through life.

[Redrose]

Did you have to pay an entrance fee? Did you buy a book? What was the purpose of going to a rally of people that could never win in a national election???
Well, if your location, south central Texas is true, you better hope we win elections. You and your state will be part of Mexico. I hope you're fluent in Espanol.

[Redrose]

I mean don't get me wrong ... the teaparty does pretty good ... it has govt. representation destroying America from within with it's rag-tag sects of true believers on the outside armed to the teeth with military-grade assault-weapons waiting for the moment to take the country back ... fueled by the same ideologue as muslim jihadism.

Take a bow.
Are you allowed out without supervision? Increase your meds.

[Libhater]

I wish I had arms like Pirro. Great, well toned.

You might be impressed with my arms as well. I have a cache of all of the latest military weapons (arms) imaginable. Got to be prepared for the upcoming revolution, doncha know.

[Redrose]

Sarah Palin was recently a speaker at a high school graduation in New Hope, Alabama....to great acclaim. Want some information about her target audience? The latest census shows population: 95% white, per capita income: under $16,000 per year, education: 1,156 people in the community had a high school degree, or 68.7 of the population (compared to the national average of 80.40%). One of the major flag wavers of the tea party opts to target lily-white, poor, marginally educated groups...and these are the people who are going to 'restore' this country? no thank you...

That my friend is most of Alabama, but the TP is nationwide. This wasn't a rally, it was $1000 per plate event. A fund raiser, you know, like the $10k dinners the Hollywood elite does for Barry.

I notice you don't cite the stats and demographics that support Barry. A vast portion of the black community supporting him can barely form a complete sentence that is discernible to normal English speaking people. TPers with a HS education, Barry's crew in the ghettos never make it past 7th grade they miss school because they are either in jail or in labor.

Getting accurate stats for his peeps is difficult, since many of them voted six times for him. But with a seventh grade education, you can't expect them to count.

[Redrose]

You might be impressed with my arms as well. I have a cache of all of the latest military weapons (arms) imaginable. Got to be prepared for the upcoming revolution, doncha know.
Lol...my husband is a gun collector. I shot a rifle last month for the first time. I hit the target just off center. I was pleased how well I did. We don't have any weapons like you said, just hand guns, rifles and shot guns. Ammo is getting pricey and limited. Makes you wonder, doncha think?

[Libhater]

[QUOTE=Redrose;667637]....Tea Party Strong!

Love the title to this post. Having lived in and around the Boston area for a good chunk of my life where we honor our revolutionary heroes and the Tea Party heroes led by Samuel Adams. The Tea Party Strong title has me thinking of it as an offshoot of the Boston Strong slogan that originated soon after the Boston Marathon bombings. So when I see people attacking the Tea Party people, it makes me think that they are attacking our Constitution, our Founders, and our Patriots that fought against a foreign nation and it's monarch. So to bash the Tea Partiers is in essence to be an enemy of America or just a plain anti/un American nincompoop.

[Redrose]

It seems if the TP is that strong then things will happen for them.

Personally, I think things have changed so much that they can never go back. At least not very much. And that assumes that America ever really existed.

The problems we are facing is the present administration has the biased media covering for them. Those on the left, most, but of course not ALL, are information challenged. They are followers, not leaders. They hear a story lead and run with it, forming their empty opinion on rhetoric. Many are very passionate about their opinions, but the basis of their opinion is flawed. Let them have their dilutions, truth will prevail.

The last two elections were almost a 50/50 split. IMO both were stolen. Too much corruption floating around this president, his penchant to lie, deflect blame, cover up his past, leads me to believe manipulating a close election is business as usual for him.

We must keep trying to get our nation back from those corrupt politicians.

[Redrose]

LTC. Not COL.
Thank you for that correction. I hope one day we can call him Mr. President.

[Peter1469]

Thank you for that correction. I hope one day we can call him Mr. President.


Me too.

[Redrose]

[QUOTE=Redrose;667637]....Tea Party Strong!

Love the title to this post. Having lived in and around the Boston area for a good chunk of my life where we honor our revolutionary heroes and the Tea Party heroes led by Samuel Adams. The Tea Party Strong title has me thinking of it as an offshoot of the Boston Strong slogan that originated soon after the Boston Marathon bombings. So when I see people attacking the Tea Party people, it makes me think that they are attacking our Constitution, our Founders, and our Patriots that fought against a foreign nation and it's monarch. So to bash the Tea Partiers is in essence to be an enemy of America or just a plain anti/un American nincompoop.

Thank you, that's the best post I've read in several days. You nailed it. There were no "slobs" at this event. No signs, no hecklers, no arrests, no racist outbursts. Every race was represented there. One ethnic group was not represented though....Muslims.

They handed out free flags and booklets of the Constitution. We started the event with a prayer and ended it with a salute to our veterans.

[Montoya]

Thank you for that correction. I hope one day we can call him Mr. President.

Keep hoping America will not vote for the extremist West. What a disgrace he is.

[Refugee]

The problems we are facing is the present administration has the biased media covering for them. Those on the left, most, but of course not ALL, are information challenged. They are followers, not leaders. They hear a story lead and run with it, forming their empty opinion on rhetoric. Many are very passionate about their opinions, but the basis of their opinion is flawed. Let them have their dilutions, truth will prevail.

The last two elections were almost a 50/50 split. IMO both were stolen. Too much corruption floating around this president, his penchant to lie, deflect blame, cover up his past, leads me to believe manipulating a close election is business as usual for him.

We must keep trying to get our nation back from those corrupt politicians.

I think that about sums it up. People are generally followers and vote for slogans. “Fundamental change, change you can believe in.” That’s what they voted for, but if you ask them what it actually meant, most of the left will tell you what they thought it meant and then complain for pages that it isn’t happening and so it must be the fault of Bush, or racism, or the Tea Party.

If the left stopped and actually thought about what Obama told them and then looked at the results, they too would come to the same conclusion that using an Americanism, they’ve been ‘suckered’ and the Obama crew are the same multi-millionaires as all the rest that came before them.

I think what sets the Tea Party people apart is that it’s a collection of ordinary people coming together, minus the show party parades and razzmatazz, the hero worship and listening to a millionaire telling you that if you sit there for long enough, someone else will lead you to the promised land.

Obama is for the dreamers and the younger crowd. The middle classes who voted for Obama have long since come to regret it. A Tea Party is boring unless you pay taxes. There’s no half naked men grabbing their crotches and trying to normalize homosexuality; no ghetto blacks to empathize with; no one smoking drugs at the back of the crowd and the welfare lot are under- represented, if not entirely absent. Goddammit, it’s not equal and that’s what differentiates the Obama masses from the Tea Party, but if the people who voted for Obama just stopped for a moment and looked around them they’d notice a startling fact: They’re still poor and the Obama’s, Pelosi’s and Reid’s are getting richer. Now there’s some change that happened that you didn’t believe in.

[Adelaide]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to the Republican party. You've got several groups of different kinds of conservatives really battling with each other.

Previously, Canada has the Reform Party (sort of like the Tea Party, I guess) and the Progressive Conservative Party but they merged, uniting the right up here. Although historically they pick leaders who are not going to fight for the social issues that the Reform Party felt strong about. Meanwhile, you've got the left splitting their votes between 3 parties. I'm pretty sure the Conservative Party (merged from the two I mentioned) is going to be in power for quite a long time assuming they keep picking leaders who won't re-open debates on social issues. The left will keep scrambling between mostly the NDP and Liberal Party, with some votes to the Greens, and then Quebecois splitting their vote further with the Bloc Quebecois. So, we've sort of got an opposite situation going on up here with our multi-party system where there is 1 united Conservative Party, 2 strong left-wing parties, and 2 weaker left-wing parties.

[Mainecoons]

Bottom line is that this is clearly to your benefit. Your government is putting Canada first, unlike ours which is putting America last.

[Matty]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to the Republican party. You've got several groups of different kinds of conservatives really battling with each other.

Previously, Canada has the Reform Party (sort of like the Tea Party, I guess) and the Progressive Conservative Party but they merged, uniting the right up here. Although historically they pick leaders who are not going to fight for the social issues that the Reform Party felt strong about. Meanwhile, you've got the left splitting their votes between 3 parties. I'm pretty sure the Conservative Party (merged from the two I mentioned) is going to be in power for quite a long time assuming they keep picking leaders who won't re-open debates on social issues. The left will keep scrambling between mostly the NDP and Liberal Party, with some votes to the Greens, and then Quebecois splitting their vote further with the Bloc Quebecois. So, we've sort of got an opposite situation going on up here with our multi-party system where there is 1 united Conservative Party, 2 strong left-wing parties, and 2 weaker left-wing parties.


Unless the Republicans stop acting like democrats and embrace the tea party philosophy it will cease to exist. And they deserve to cease to exist.

[Mainecoons]

Absolutely right. Time for us to have a real opposition party, not a bunch of fellow travelers to the left.

[Matty]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to the Republican party. You've got several groups of different kinds of conservatives really battling with each other.

Previously, Canada has the Reform Party (sort of like the Tea Party, I guess) and the Progressive Conservative Party but they merged, uniting the right up here. Although historically they pick leaders who are not going to fight for the social issues that the Reform Party felt strong about. Meanwhile, you've got the left splitting their votes between 3 parties. I'm pretty sure the Conservative Party (merged from the two I mentioned) is going to be in power for quite a long time assuming they keep picking leaders who won't re-open debates on social issues. The left will keep scrambling between mostly the NDP and Liberal Party, with some votes to the Greens, and then Quebecois splitting their vote further with the Bloc Quebecois. So, we've sort of got an opposite situation going on up here with our multi-party system where there is 1 united Conservative Party, 2 strong left-wing parties, and 2 weaker left-wing parties.


I like it when you take the time to explain your country's politics.

[Adelaide]

Bottom line is that this is clearly to your benefit. Your government is putting Canada first, unlike ours which is putting America last.

They still act like assholes sometimes. Politicians are politicians are politicians.

But yes, it does seem as though your government really couldn't give a shit what people actually want or what needs to be done. I don't understand anyone who loyally/blindly follows either major party because they seemed more concerned with fucking around than doing their jobs.

[Mini Me]

I wish I had arms like Pirro. Great, well toned. She and Palin looked amazing. I had my photo taken with Palin and West.

GUSH! SWOON!

I wanted to go to a tea party locally, just to laugh and jeer.

Its funny, I have always thought the conservatives have basically run this country into the ground since Reagan. That 40% is bigger than the sum of its parts, largely because cons run the corporate media in the US, and control about 90+% of radio, and have all those Rethug Stink Tanks grinding out divisive propaganda 24/7.

[Mini Me]

The tea party is nothing more than Hitler marching on the govt. known as the Beer Hall Putsch.

But if they say we should burn down the Reichstag, I am all in!

All those millions of Tea Party Brownshirts could sure become a problem. We need more guns!!!!

[zelmo1234]

GUSH! SWOON!

I wanted to go to a tea party locally, just to laugh and jeer.

Its funny, I have always thought the conservatives have basically run this country into the ground since Reagan. That 40% is bigger than the sum of its parts, largely because cons run the corporate media in the US, and control about 90+% of radio, and have all those Rethug Stink Tanks grinding out divisive propaganda 24/7.

If the republicans are running the country into the ground? Why is it that 2 out of the last three Democratic Presidents have presided over terrible economies, and a decline in the power and respect of the country in foreign affairs! And the other one governed like a republican?

Just a thought.

And why is it that Carter and Obama have about the same size workforce even though they were president 4 decades apart?

Just a thought?

[Redrose]

The president is NOT Republican, the Senate is NOT Republican, the House is Republican.

2/3 of the power structure is NOT Republican, but the resident geniuses blame the party NOT in power.

With that logic, it's no wonder the country is hurting.

[Libhater]

If the republicans are running the country into the ground? Why is it that 2 out of the last three Democratic Presidents have presided over terrible economies, and a decline in the power and respect of the country in foreign affairs! And the other one governed like a republican?

Just a thought.

And why is it that Carter and Obama have about the same size workforce even though they were president 4 decades apart?

Just a thought?

Yeah, and the only reason klinton presided over a good economy was because we had the dot.com boon during the 90s. Just lucky timing for that buffoon. Meanwhile the Bush and Reagan economies soared.

[zelmo1234]

The president is NOT Republican, the Senate is NOT Republican, the House is Republican.

2/3 of the power structure is NOT Republican, but the resident geniuses blame the party NOT in power.

With that logic, it's no wonder the country is hurting.

I think that GWB is still the President but they are not telling anyone. They sure keep blaming him

[zelmo1234]

Yeah, and the only reason klinton presided over a good economy was because we had the dot.com boon during the 90s. Just lucky timing for that buffoon. Meanwhile the Bush and Reagan economies soared.

While I am not a fan of democrats? Your statement is not true.

He did three very important things for the economy at the time. #1 He dramatically lowered the capital gains taxes, giving the retired more disposable income. #2 he did do some good things to expand home ownership, he just went too far, and they lost site of the lending. #3 He used 2 of the 3 free trade agreements to expand and open markets to US exports.

Clinton actually governed to the right of GWB, He just had shitty morals!

[Mainecoons]

A little old but oh, so appropriate still.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAYvYHRJJWc

[Mainecoons]

Yeah, and the only reason klinton presided over a good economy was because we had the dot.com boon during the 90s. Just lucky timing for that buffoon. Meanwhile the Bush and Reagan economies soared.

Nope, the dot com boom was just a side story to the bigger picture of the overall stimulation of business and home building caused by falling interest rates and much smaller government deficits.

In modern times, the best governance we've had are the last six years of the Clinton presidency when there were real checks and balances operating between the Republican Congress and the White House. And Clinton was a deal maker, unlike Obama who desires only to dictate.

The slide into hell started with the election of the liberal Bush and the enabling of borrowing, spending and war mongering by the Republicrat Congress. The greatest opportunity in the last 50 years to actually cut government was thrown away by Bush and that Congress.

[Peter1469]

Good point. Clinton did not govern as an ideologue. He was happy to steal a republican idea and take credit for it.


Nope, the dot com boom was just a side story to the bigger picture of the overall stimulation of business and home building caused by falling interest rates and much smaller government deficits.

In modern times, the best governance we've had are the last six years of the Clinton presidency when there were real checks and balances operating between the Republican Congress and the White House. And Clinton was a deal maker, unlike Obama who desires only to dictate.

The slide into hell started with the election of the liberal Bush and the enabling of borrowing, spending and war mongering by the Republicrat Congress. The greatest opportunity in the last 50 years to actually cut government was thrown away by Bush and that Congress.

[Mainecoons]

Clinton was a pretty pragmatic guy except when it came to controlling some of his personal impulses.

I'll never understand why the Clintons got on the Obama bandwagon.

[Peter1469]

Clinton was a pretty pragmatic guy except when it came to controlling some of his personal impulses.

I'll never understand why the Clintons got on the Obama bandwagon.

I think it was the same tactic they always used. Wet a finger, stick it in the air and see which way the wind is blowing.

[Mainecoons]

It was a monumental miscalculation on their part. I don't think they really got it how bad Obama and the radicals around him really are.

[Peter1469]

It was a monumental miscalculation on their part. I don't think they really got it how bad Obama and the radicals around him really are.

Well I think they were focused on the Clintons. Not the country. I believe that they thought that had they stood firm against Obama, they would have been pushed out of politics both by the establishment and by the democratic base.

[ChoppedLiver]

Sarah Palin was recently a speaker at a high school graduation in New Hope, Alabama....to great acclaim. Want some information about her target audience? The latest census shows population: 95% white, per capita income: under $16,000 per year, education: 1,156 people in the community had a high school degree, or 68.7 of the population (compared to the national average of 80.40%). One of the major flag wavers of the tea party opts to target lily-white, poor, marginally educated groups...and these are the people who are going to 'restore' this country? no thank you...

You must hate White people, PolWatch. Why is that?

Yet, you'll support oBozo and the rest of the libtard ilk for targeting poor uneducated black people who show a propensity to kill, rape, rob, steal, etc... way more than their White counter-parts as if those people are going to 'restore' this country?

No thanx!

:cool:

[PolWatch]

That my friend is most of Alabama, but the TP is nationwide. This wasn't a rally, it was $1000 per plate event. A fund raiser, you know, like the $10k dinners the Hollywood elite does for Barry.

I notice you don't cite the stats and demographics that support Barry. A vast portion of the black community supporting him can barely form a complete sentence that is discernible to normal English speaking people. TPers with a HS education, Barry's crew in the ghettos never make it past 7th grade they miss school because they are either in jail or in labor.

Getting accurate stats for his peeps is difficult, since many of them voted six times for him. But with a seventh grade education, you can't expect them to count.

after reading your post, I guess the best thing I can say is to quote my father: 'a kicked dog always hollers'. and, sorry, but that ain't most of 'Bama...as someone else around here pointed out, its really odd to find a city with such a 'white' population in Alabama. since you seem to think that everyone who voted for bho is uneducated, why don't YOU provide stats to back it up? (funny, but I seem to remember someone saying that most of the states that voted for BHO had a higher educational level than that of the 'red' states) along with the 'investigations' as to how they voted 6 times (guess all that redistricting that was done here didn't work too well). Its really funny, watching the tea party folks trying to explain why their strongest support is in the states with the least education and getting the most pork...along with the worse history of civil rights. after over 100 years of pointing south and laughing, ya'll have to change yer tune....teehee

[Kalkin]

Believe me ...
Lol! Good one!
Are you a comedianne or do you just look like one?

[Kalkin]

Obama could simply have ordered the treasury to mint and issue a Trillion Dollar coin to keep the Govt. from collapsing ...
...

[sachem]

That my friend is most of Alabama, but the TP is nationwide. This wasn't a rally, it was $1000 per plate event. A fund raiser, you know, like the $10k dinners the Hollywood elite does for Barry.

I notice you don't cite the stats and demographics that support Barry. A vast portion of the black community supporting him can barely form a complete sentence that is discernible to normal English speaking people. TPers with a HS education, Barry's crew in the ghettos never make it past 7th grade they miss school because they are either in jail or in labor.

Getting accurate stats for his peeps is difficult, since many of them voted six times for him. But with a seventh grade education, you can't expect them to count.Wow.

[Green Arrow]

No offense, but they seemed real strong in 2010. 2014...not so much. The establishment has kicked serious Tea Party ass this cycle. David Brat is the lone exception, I think.

Mind you, I think this is a bad thing. I don't favor the GOP establishment by any means.

[Mini Me]

If the republicans are running the country into the ground? Why is it that 2 out of the last three Democratic Presidents have presided over terrible economies, and a decline in the power and respect of the country in foreign affairs! And the other one governed like a republican?

Just a thought.

And why is it that Carter and Obama have about the same size workforce even though they were president 4 decades apart?

Just a thought?

Ever hear of the Lewis Powell memorandum? 1970?

Didn't think so.

By 1980, big business had consolidated its Congressional power, and drowned out the voices of the people. And then, things got much worse.

[Mini Me]

The president is NOT Republican, the Senate is NOT Republican, the House is Republican.

2/3 of the power structure is NOT Republican, but the resident geniuses blame the party NOT in power.

With that logic, it's no wonder the country is hurting.

We have never recovered from the incredible damage the Bush recession and huge war debt caused. And now capital flight has gone overseas to give jobs and industry to foreign slave labor. The corporatocracy has no allegience to the uS.

[Codename Section]

We have never recovered from the incredible damage the Bush recession and huge war debt caused. And now capital flight has gone overseas to give jobs and industry to foreign slave labor. The corporatocracy has no allegience to the uS.

We've been in a decline since 1960 and the fluke of the post war industrial monopoly began to fade, but you're right. They have no allegiance because of the whole "one world" globalists. Try to punish them with higher taxes and they'll leave totally.

Find a way to make them happy and you happy and they might stay. Sucks but it is what it is.

[Redrose]

We have never recovered from the incredible damage the Bush recession and huge war debt caused. And now capital flight has gone overseas to give jobs and industry to foreign slave labor. The corporatocracy has no allegience to the uS.



That statement reeks like bad cheese. Still on about Bush. Flip that record over. When Bush took office from Clinton, the National Debt was 5.6 trillion, when he left 8 years later it was 10.6 trillion, he increased it only by 5 trillion including a war. Bumbling Barry has increased it to 17.5 trillion in less than 6 years. At this rate, Obama will leave office with a National Debt over 20 trillion, double what all the 43 previous presidents did in 238 years combined. Barry did that in only 8 years. He is the worst president in our history. A failure on every level. A black mark on our legacy. No pun intended.

Also, Obama has outsourced jobs even more so than his predecessors. But he is a two faced liar. People believing his line of BS are showing their foolishness and ignorance.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Sarah Palin was recently a speaker at a high school graduation in New Hope, Alabama....to great acclaim. Want some information about her target audience? The latest census shows population: 95% white, per capita income: under $16,000 per year, education: 1,156 people in the community had a high school degree, or 68.7 of the population (compared to the national average of 80.40%). One of the major flag wavers of the tea party opts to target lily-white, poor, marginally educated groups...and these are the people who are going to 'restore' this country? no thank you... I had intended to make this a post in praise of the Bagolic saint, Juneau of Arc, but I was forced to quit that halfway through because the tPF LIBRULS were harassing me mercilessly about it!

[The Sage of Main Street]

We've been in a decline since 1960 They have no allegiance because of the whole "one world" globalists.

Find a way to make them happy and they might stay. Sucks but it is what it is. We won't be free until we coerce the outnumbered, soft, and spoiled-rotten class to say, "Sucks, but it is what it is."

[Ransom]

Is that our issue? The spoiled rotten classes?

[Perianne]

...Obama......A black mark on our legacy.

A skid mark.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Is that our issue? The spoiled rotten classes? If there's mold on top, the rest of the bread should be considered inedible.

[The Sage of Main Street]

A skid mark. A guest host. The rulers threw us a bone. There's no meat on it, but at least we can survive on the marrow.