View Full Version : Thanks to US Tax System! Obama pays 20%, Romney Pays 15% but you and I pay 30%

04-14-2012, 07:39 AM
Do you really know what is wrong with this country? Wealthy are becoming richer and richer and the rest are filling the belly of the corporate best with their sweat and blood.

If you are “Ordinary” men or women doing “Ordinary” jobs and earning “Ordinary” income you have to pay little less than 30% on your “Ordinary” income. Why? Because, you and I don’t have money to invest in money, or

1- in economic terms capital gains (stocks, bonds, real state)

2- We can’t lend and earn interest
3- We don’t get dividends

Read Full Article: http://www.worldrealnews.com/2012/04/14/tax-system-obama-pays-20-romney-pays-15-pay-30/

04-14-2012, 07:51 AM
I doubt many of us pay over 20% after deductions and adjustments. We may pay 30% of part of our income, but on average its not nearly that high just counting federal income taxes.

If you don't spend all of your money you will have some left over for investments.

04-14-2012, 08:08 AM
The long term capital gains tax rate is 15%, but remember that money was already taxed as income (either corporate or personal) before you invested it. Don't forget to factor that into your class envy.

keyser soze
04-14-2012, 08:18 AM
The Rich Are Different From You and Me - They Pay Fewer Taxes (http://truth-out.org/news/item/8502-the-rich-are-different-from-you-and-me-they-pay-fewer-taxes)

By Michael Winship and Bill Moyers, Truthout (http://truth-out.org/) | News Analysis
Stephen Schwarzman. (Photo: Fred R. Conrad / The New York Times)
Benjamin Franklin, who used his many talents to become a wealthy man, famously said that the only things certain in life are death and taxes. But if you're a corporate CEO in America today, even they can be put on the back burner - death held at bay by the best medical care money can buy and the latest in surgical and life extension techniques, taxes conveniently shunted aside courtesy of loopholes, overseas investment and governments that conveniently look the other way.
In a story headlined, "For Big Companies, Life Is Good," The Wall Street Journal reports that big American companies have emerged from the deepest recession since World War II more profitable than ever: flush with cash, less burdened by debt and with a greater share of the country's income. But, the paper notes, "Many of the 1.1 million jobs the big companies added since 2007 were outside the U.S. So, too, was much of the $1.2 trillion added to corporate treasuries."

Read more...http://truth-out.org/ (http://truth-out.org/news/item/8502-the-rich-are-different-from-you-and-me-they-pay-fewer-taxes)

04-14-2012, 08:30 AM
If the rich have a tax advantage its because our government provides that advantage, Dems and Reps. I think I read somewhere that there will be a vote in Congress Monday on the Buffett rule, and its expected to fail in the Dem controlled Senate.

But its all a diversion to distract from spending. If the bill were to pass it would only reduce the amount of debt the White House expects to incur this year by 5 billion of 1.3 trillion dollars. We need tax reform. But we need to get spending under control first.

04-14-2012, 08:38 AM
America does not have a taxing problem, it has a spending problem. If we collected the Buffet tax for the next 250 years (using today's collection rate) we still would not cover 1 year of Obama's deficits.

04-14-2012, 01:04 PM
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