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nic34
07-09-2014, 04:15 PM
Transcript: Abbott's Remarks on Hazardous Chemicals

Greg Abbott, the Texas attorney general and Republican gubernatorial candidate, has come under fire this week for suggesting that citizens get information about the storage of hazardous chemicals in Texas not from state officials but from the businesses that house them. His office ruled in May that government entities can withhold the locations of dangerous chemicals listed in state records — so-called Tier II reports — to protect the public from terrorism or other threats.

Q. General, on the Tier II question … what information is available? What can we see, and how do we do that?

A. You, as a reporter, you, as a community member of the state, can go to any chemical facility in the entire state of Texas and say, "Identify for me all chemicals you have on your facility," and you are entitled to get that information within 10 days.

Q. Do you have to know where the facility is?

A. Well, it’s helpful. I mean, you wouldn’t just want to say, "Well, I wonder if there’s one up in Andrews, Texas." You know where they are, if you drive around. Let’s bear this down. If you’re living in West, Texas, you know that there is some facility there and you have the right to ask the people in West, Texas, "Hey, what chemicals do you have in there?" Same thing as you drive from here back to your office, you may see any kind of plant or facility, you don’t have to know whether or not they do or do not have anything in there whatsoever, you can ask every facility whether or not they have chemicals, you can ask them if they do, and they can tell you, "Well, we do have chemicals" or "we don’t have chemicals," and if they do, they tell which ones they have.

Q. So we ask the facility, not (the Department of State Health Services)?

A. Right. That’s the way that law works to protect homeland security. DSHS has the right to not disclose this information for homeland security purposes. However, to ensure that those living in neighborhoods, those who live in areas where they want to make sure that things are safe, or those who are thinking about buying a home, when you buy a home you don’t just target on the internet and move in the next day, you drive around the neighborhood. You’re going to know everything that exists in the neighborhood in which you move, and you have the right to inquire before you move in there, every single facility along the way, whether or not they’re storing any kind of chemical whatsoever.

Q. You can just walk on their private property and say, "I have a right to be on your private property and ask you what you have?"

A. Absolutely.

… seconds later

Just to make clear, I mean, you may not be able to walk on private property, but you can send an email or letter or notice to anyone who owns any kind of private property or facility saying that under the Community Right to Know law, you need to tell me within 10 days what chemicals you have, so it doesn’t matter who you are or where you are you are, you’re obligated under that law to respond.

Oh, well, that's different....


http://www.texastribune.org/2014/07/03/abbott-pivots-access-information-about-chemicals/

So screw regulations, just drive around and be your own fire inspector..... Badges? We don need no steenkin badges!

Wow, just wow.

GrassrootsConservative
07-09-2014, 04:17 PM
Lol you must be terrible at accents. Are you trying to do a Texan or Cheech and Chong?

Chris
07-09-2014, 04:18 PM
You make this sound like it's about not regulating hazardous materials when your own citation says it's about not sharing information for a specific purpose:

"His office ruled in May that government entities can withhold the locations of dangerous chemicals listed in state records — so-called Tier II reports — to protect the public from terrorism or other threats."

nic34
07-09-2014, 04:27 PM
You make this sound like it's about not regulating hazardous materials when your own citation says it's about not sharing information for a specific purpose:

"His office ruled in May that government entities can withhold the locations of dangerous chemicals listed in state records — so-called Tier II reports — to protect the public from terrorism or other threats."

Sure chris. You are protected by the state not telling you anything, but you can go out and get it on your own..... and so can the terrorists...... run with that.


In the meantime, can you decipher this word salad?

A. Right. That’s the way that law works to protect homeland security. DSHS has the right to not disclose this information for homeland security purposes. However, to ensure that those living in neighborhoods, those who live in areas where they want to make sure that things are safe, or those who are thinking about buying a home, when you buy a home you don’t just target on the internet and move in the next day, you drive around the neighborhood. You’re going to know everything that exists in the neighborhood in which you move, and you have the right to inquire before you move in there, every single facility along the way, whether or not they’re storing any kind of chemical whatsoever.

nic34
07-09-2014, 04:30 PM
Lol you must be terrible at accents. Are you trying to do a Texan or Cheech and Chong?

What "accents"? These are typed words. DUH.

GrassrootsConservative
07-09-2014, 04:37 PM
What "accents"? These are typed words. DUH.

"Steenkin" isn't a word, genius.

donttread
07-09-2014, 04:42 PM
Transcript: Abbott's Remarks on Hazardous Chemicals

Greg Abbott, the Texas attorney general and Republican gubernatorial candidate, has come under fire this week for suggesting that citizens get information about the storage of hazardous chemicals in Texas not from state officials but from the businesses that house them. His office ruled in May that government entities can withhold the locations of dangerous chemicals listed in state records — so-called Tier II reports — to protect the public from terrorism or other threats.

Q. General, on the Tier II question … what information is available? What can we see, and how do we do that?

A. You, as a reporter, you, as a community member of the state, can go to any chemical facility in the entire state of Texas and say, "Identify for me all chemicals you have on your facility," and you are entitled to get that information within 10 days.

Q. Do you have to know where the facility is?

A. Well, it’s helpful. I mean, you wouldn’t just want to say, "Well, I wonder if there’s one up in Andrews, Texas." You know where they are, if you drive around. Let’s bear this down. If you’re living in West, Texas, you know that there is some facility there and you have the right to ask the people in West, Texas, "Hey, what chemicals do you have in there?" Same thing as you drive from here back to your office, you may see any kind of plant or facility, you don’t have to know whether or not they do or do not have anything in there whatsoever, you can ask every facility whether or not they have chemicals, you can ask them if they do, and they can tell you, "Well, we do have chemicals" or "we don’t have chemicals," and if they do, they tell which ones they have.

Q. So we ask the facility, not (the Department of State Health Services)?

A. Right. That’s the way that law works to protect homeland security. DSHS has the right to not disclose this information for homeland security purposes. However, to ensure that those living in neighborhoods, those who live in areas where they want to make sure that things are safe, or those who are thinking about buying a home, when you buy a home you don’t just target on the internet and move in the next day, you drive around the neighborhood. You’re going to know everything that exists in the neighborhood in which you move, and you have the right to inquire before you move in there, every single facility along the way, whether or not they’re storing any kind of chemical whatsoever.

Q. You can just walk on their private property and say, "I have a right to be on your private property and ask you what you have?"

A. Absolutely.

… seconds later

Just to make clear, I mean, you may not be able to walk on private property, but you can send an email or letter or notice to anyone who owns any kind of private property or facility saying that under the Community Right to Know law, you need to tell me within 10 days what chemicals you have, so it doesn’t matter who you are or where you are you are, you’re obligated under that law to respond.

Oh, well, that's different....


http://www.texastribune.org/2014/07/03/abbott-pivots-access-information-about-chemicals/

So screw regulations, just drive around and be your own fire inspector..... Badges? We don need no steenkin badges!

Wow, just wow.

Protect the people with lies, the truth is treason just ask Mr. Snowden

Cigar
07-09-2014, 04:48 PM
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Chris
07-09-2014, 04:51 PM
Sure chris. You are protected by the state not telling you anything, but you can go out and get it on your own..... and so can the terrorists...... run with that.


In the meantime, can you decipher this word salad?

A. Right. That’s the way that law works to protect homeland security. DSHS has the right to not disclose this information for homeland security purposes. However, to ensure that those living in neighborhoods, those who live in areas where they want to make sure that things are safe, or those who are thinking about buying a home, when you buy a home you don’t just target on the internet and move in the next day, you drive around the neighborhood. You’re going to know everything that exists in the neighborhood in which you move, and you have the right to inquire before you move in there, every single facility along the way, whether or not they’re storing any kind of chemical whatsoever.



You keep shooting yourself in the foot: "DSHS has the right to not disclose this information for homeland security purposes."

donttread
07-09-2014, 04:55 PM
Or to please the corporations that hold the toxins and don't want the hassle

Cigar
07-09-2014, 04:57 PM
Or to please the corporations that hold the toxins and don't want the hassle


No way ... Not the Job Creators who are over Taxed :laugh:

Chris
07-09-2014, 04:58 PM
Or to please the corporations that hold the toxins and don't want the hassle

As nic has pointed out though anyone can go to the corporations to get the info. So they're not protected in that regard. The state regulating access to keep people from the info, that could be seen as protective.

donttread
07-09-2014, 06:33 PM
As nic has pointed out though anyone can go to the corporations to get the info. So they're not protected in that regard. The state regulating access to keep people from the info, that could be seen as protective.

Well that explains it . No way terrorist are smart enough to figure out what industries use which chemicals, right?

darroll
07-09-2014, 06:55 PM
If they find out who makes what then they can hassle them out of this country and cry there are no jobs. Someone will make c-4 if you want it.

1751_Texan
07-09-2014, 09:37 PM
You make this sound like it's about not regulating hazardous materials when your own citation says it's about not sharing information for a specific purpose:

"His office ruled in May that government entities can withhold the locations of dangerous chemicals listed in state records — so-called Tier II reports — to protect the public from terrorism or other threats."

Who protected the people in West Tx?