You can't really waste water

[donttread]

But you can move it out of it's natural water table like Coors does

[TheInternet]

cool

[darroll]

Don't drink water as the fish poop in it and George Washington took a bath in it.

[Don]

But you can move it out of it's natural water table like Coors does

Don't all beverage makers do that? How about bottled water. I'm in Arizona and they don't bottle that water here.

[donttread]

Don't all beverage makers do that? How about bottled water. I'm in Arizona and they don't bottle that water here.

Yes, I used the Coors example because citizens of that state cannot legally collect rainwater while Coors can patent and export the stuff

[Captain Obvious]

Making beer out of water certainly isn't wasting it, even if it is Coors.

[Don]

Yes, I used the Coors example because citizens of that state cannot legally collect rainwater while Coors can patent and export the stuff

That is a stupid law just like thousands of stupid laws states and fedgov have. I doubt prosecuting people for using the rainwater is a priority. People and businesses in Colorado pay for the water they use. Colorado has a lot of water but its still expensive. I thought when I moved here to Arizona water would be expensive but I pay less than 25% of what I did in Colorado.

[donttread]

That is a stupid law just like thousands of stupid laws states and fedgov have. I doubt prosecuting people for using the rainwater is a priority. People and businesses in Colorado pay for the water they use. Colorado has a lot of water but its still expensive. I thought when I moved here to Arizona water would be expensive but I pay less than 25% of what I did in Colorado.

That smacks of something being wrong. BTW shouldn't water be free?

[warwulf]

Just kind off on a tangent, but, CO and those states are being hit now, with an extra hot heat wave. Now, not supporting the climate change debate one way or the other, OH has had record LOWS in their area, so perhaps there IS a connection.

[donttread]

That is a stupid law just like thousands of stupid laws states and fedgov have. I doubt prosecuting people for using the rainwater is a priority. People and businesses in Colorado pay for the water they use. Colorado has a lot of water but its still expensive. I thought when I moved here to Arizona water would be expensive but I pay less than 25% of what I did in Colorado.

Municipalities are often even worse abusers of liberty than the feds are if you can imagine that

[momsapplepie]

Co. has to let the water run off. They only get to keep so much and only have so many facilities to store it. The Feds control the water and how it is divided up.

[Bob]

Don't drink water as the fish poop in it and George Washington took a bath in it.

Who took Washington from his above ground grave and bathed him?

[CreepyOldDude]

Don't drink water as the fish poop in it and George Washington took a bath in it.

Slightly gross story time.

Back in the early 60s, I was on a hunting trip with my dad and one of my brothers. We were way up a the hollow, up on the ridge. I was getting real thirsty, and stopped at a creek for a drink. I filled my canteen, drank it all, filled it again, drained it, then filled it and put the cap on. Then we walked around the corner of a large rock that was blocking our view upstream. There, not five feet from where I was drinking, was a dead deer. It's head was shattered. It looked like someone had shot it in the head, then just left it lying there. It was in the stream. When I poured some water from my canteen into my hand, and looked closely, there were little bits of brain in it.

I didn't throw up, but I wanted to. :puke:

That's when I learned not to drink, until I'd seen what was upstream. :)

[Peter1469]

That is bad. I guess you didn't get sick from it.

I carry good water filters when I hike.

[Bob]

That is bad. I guess you didn't get sick from it.

I carry good water filters when I hike.

It is easy to be up in CA mountains where the streams run cold and assume the water is fine.

Do the filters take out bacteria? What about the water purifying pills? Peter1469

[Peter1469]

Yes good filters remove bacteria. Pills work too. Make the water taste bad.

Water filters are a must for any prepper.

[CreepyOldDude]

That is bad. I guess you didn't get sick from it.

I carry good water filters when I hike.

No, I didn't get sick.

Back in the early 60s, not many poor Appalachian families had filters. We drank from streams all the time.

[donttread]

Back in the day any running water was considered fine.

[waltky]

The whole world is drying up...
:shocked:
The people of Cape Town are running out of water—and they’re not alone
13 Mar.`18 - Day Zero: that’s the ominous label officials in Cape Town have bestowed on the day that water will run out. A three year drought in the region drained reservoirs faster than expected. They were full at the start of 2014, but estimates from the end of January 2018 show that water levels are now at 26 percent of capacity. When the level drops to 13.5 percent, officials plan to shut off pipes and start controlling water distribution to residents. Cape Town’s residents will receive a daily ration of 25 liters of water—the average American, by contrast, uses fifteen times as much per day. A black market is sure to emerge, but the city’s poorest, who have long been bearing the brunt of this crisis, will probably not be able to afford the exorbitant prices.


When Day Zero will arrive is anyone’s guess. It’s been pushed back several times already, as water conservation efforts have proved successful, according to local news reports—it might not even hit until 2019 if usage remains low. But while conservation efforts may stave off the inevitable, there’s one thing city planners and water management can't predict: when it will rain again. Until the drought is over, Cape Town will remain on the brink of an environmental and public health disaster. But the South African city is just one of many localities across the globe to face extreme water shortages in recent years—and one of many more to come. The World Resources Institute recently crunched data on water consumption and projected climate patterns, and predicts that by 2040, most regions in the world will be facing some level of water stress, and 33 countries could face “extremely high” stress. Cape Town is one of the most dire cases we’re seeing today. But across the globe, water troubles are already straining the lives of millions of people.


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Cape Town's water reservoirs are drying up.

Bolivia

Disappearing Andean glaciers, increasingly rare rainfalls in the wet season, and a protracted drought dried up most of capital city La Paz’s drinking water in 2017. Mining operations have also had a hand in depleting the scarce resource. The predictions of what could happen in Cape Town have already come true in this city of almost two and a half million. Military-guarded trucks deliver meager rations of water, while contamination and protests wreak havoc on the daily lives of citizens. Conservation, rationing, and limiting industrial usage can only go so far if the rains don’t come soon.

Morocco


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Ancient water ways in the Moroccan desert used gravity to transport ground water without the need for pumps.

Blame watermelons for last year’s protests in drought-stricken Morocco. The North African nation’s agricultural exports—which mostly cater to out-of-season demands in the European market—make up a significant percentage of its GDP. Farmers had been overusing water resources during what may have been the country’s worst drought in 30 years to continue growing impractical, water-intensive crops, like watermelon. In October 2017, the government shut off water supplies in the rural town of Zagora in response to shortages. It’s a town where residents report that clean drinking water is hard to come by, even when the taps are running, and they quickly took to the streets in protest. While the town got an official apology from the Prime Minister, the government hasn’t done much to mitigate the problem or encourage conservation as the drought lingers on.

Bangladesh


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A satellite image of the Sundarbans reveals complex waterways draining into the Bay of Bengal.

Three-quarters of the earth’s surface is covered in water, but most of it is undrinkable. In the Sundarbans, the world’s largest mangrove forests located in coastal Bangladesh, that paradox defines the daily struggles of villagers who have to search further and further for clean drinking water. As climate change intensifies, melting ice in Greenland and Antarctica causes sea water to rise. In the low-lying Sundarbans, that means salty sea water encroaches on groundwater and reservoirs, rendering it useless for human consumption. Mangrove trees can filter the salt as they take in water, but human kidneys have no such adaptation. You’ll die of dehydration if you drink too much salt water. The lack of freshwater drives climate refugees towards Dhaka, one of the most densely populated cities in the world. They may not get much relief in their new home—the city’s infrastructure can’t keep up with its ever-growing population, and millions of slum dwellers lack access to clean water.

United States


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Patches of green agriculture pop up along the Colorado River's path through the desert.

To many people living in the U.S., clean drinking water seems so ubiquitous that one might not think twice about using two to five gallons a minute in the shower, or dumping hundreds of gallons onto a lush, green lawn in the summer. Conservation policies during droughts have helped, but oftentimes, water usage shoots up as soon as the drought conditions lessen, even though it would be wiser to save up the rainy day fund for the next severe drought cycle. But the reality is that U.S. water access is far from equal. Climate change and extended droughts are slowly drying up the Colorado River, putting 30 million people in seven states in a precarious position. And in some low-income, rural communities across the nation, it doesn’t matter if climate change turns off the taps—there were never any to begin with. Unincorporated townships are often denied access to the water and sewer infrastructure of larger cities or towns. The community of Sandbranch, for example, sits right in the shadows of the Dallas’s skyscrapers. But residents haven’t had clean drinking water since gravel mining contamination in the 1950s. On Native American reservations, some 24,000 households don’t have running water, either. But being connected to a municipal supply doesn’t always ensure clean drinking water. Residents of Flint, Michigan have been drinking bottled water since 2015, when elevated lead levels were detected in residential tap water—despite city officials' insistence that the water was safe. Just this week, a new round of testing found traces of lead in water. Poor infrastructure, like climate change, will continue to exacerbate America’s water woes.

https://www.popsci.com/water-crisis-cape-town-world#page-5

[jimmyz]

It's kind of cool realizing the water in your hand may have been a component in Julius Caesar's pee or the urine of a T-Rex.

[Peter1469]

Some historians claim that many wars in history were over water rights.

[donttread]

Yes good filters remove bacteria. Pills work too. Make the water taste bad.

Water filters are a must for any prepper.

I'd still trust fast moving water if I was in a bind.