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keyser soze
04-19-2012, 10:26 AM
Interesting read..


As much as many Christians would like the world to believe that Mormonism is not a legitimate sect of Christianity – reality argues otherwise. And right off the bat I want to use proper nomenclature. The legitimate name of their faith is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. (http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/comparison_charts/islam_judaism_christianity.htm)

They are most often referred to as “Mormons” because they follow not only the Christian Bible, but the Book of Mormon as well. So I will be using the proper name abbreviated as LDS. One of the reasons this is so important to them is that they intentionally stress the “Church of Jesus Christ” portion of their faith.

I routinely attempt to use the K.I.S.S. method (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle) when beginning these discussions because they can quickly get entirely out of control. So here goes…we are talking about what are considered the Abrahamic Faiths (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions). Traditionally, there are only three categories – Jewish, Islamic and Christian.

The reason they are referred to in this way is that they all claim to be descendants of Abraham and they all recognize the same God. Their religious views and traditions vary from slight to significant. Religion Facts.com (http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/comparison_charts/islam_judaism_christianity.htm) has several charts that illustrate the origins and comparisons of these three major faith categories. This one shows the origins:
http://godsownparty.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Abrahamic-Origins.jpg (http://godsownparty.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Abrahamic-Origins.jpg)COURTESY OF RELIGIOUSFACTS.COM

All these major religions have their own subcategories and sects. Christianity, it can be argued, is home to the most diverse sects dangling beneath its umbrella, covering a vast territory. Think Protestant, Pentecostalism, Charismatic Evangelicalism, Catholic, Latter Day Saints, and a bunch more.

For me to openly tie LDS to Christianity will surprise a lot of people because the understanding of the LDS faith by the general populace is limited almost entirely to polygamy and funny underpants (http://whatmormonsbelieve.org/mormon_underwear.html).But, hey…what religion doesn’t have its standout traditions? Ash smudge on the forehead; kissing the ring of the Pope; speaking in tongues; fasting for Jesus; grasping a live chicken by the shoulder blades and moving around one’s head three times, symbolically transferring one’s sins to the chicken; or drinking shot glasses of grape juice or wine and eating wafers or crackers and pretending that is the blood and body of Christ; that Mary was a virgin; or believing that hell is a real place full of actual fire and brimstone…Instead of me going on, please add to what I have put here in the comments section if you would about any and all rituals that come to your mind as you think about this.

They all seem a bit eccentric to those who are outside the faiths

Much more....
http://godsownparty.com/blog/2012/04/mormons-are-christians-funny-undergarments-all/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=mormons-are-christians-funny-undergarments-all



Yes they do....from the same article.


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With time I will go deeper into this rabbit-hole as we discover the similarities which are numerous – rather than focus on the differences between LDS and the bible-based cult Dominionist sects – because it is the ideologies that their theologies have in common that constitute a threat to our democracy when they set their sights on saving America from the evils of secular humanism.

Theologians argue constantly about who is a “real” Christian. Whether faith is enough or you have to be “born again”. Is baptism at birth recognized? And is it true that the richer you are the more God shines on you? Or that the poorer you are the more evidence there is that you have turned your back on Jesus. These questions represent a fraction of the debates and the truth is?

There is not a blessed soul on this earth who can answer these.So, I am not interested in getting into a debate about who the “real Christians are. My concern, as I stated above, is that what ever any of these sects claim or call themselves…if they are seeking to insert their religious beliefs into our laws with the intent to govern Americans under their theology – I do not want to have anything to do with what they are peddling. But, given that political Christiannity has permeated conservative politics in America – I have a lot of questions…

Are they implementing social legislation regarding women’s rights from health care to equal pay?
Are they using their religious views to define marriage and justify discrimination of minorities?
Is their intention to cut programs for the poor, indigent and downtrodden based on their scripture-twisted versions of Christianity?
Does their belief in a version of Prosperity Gospel make them slaves to enriching the rich?
Do they deny global warming because of their biblical world view and a belief that we are in the End of Days?
Is their Israeli policy based on their religious views? And Iran?

These are just a few of the very serious questions that I am just getting warmed up with. I will be discussing this and more on the Forward Blitz Radio Show tonight. You can tune in by clicking here (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/forwardblitz/2012/04/19/revolution-now-2012-1). I am certain that it will be a lively discussion that we will all learn from.

http://godsownparty.com/blog/2012/04/mormons-are-christians-funny-undergarments-all/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=mormons-are-christians-funny-undergarments-all

roadmaster
04-19-2012, 10:37 AM
I would have taken this thread serious until you wrote "
Funny Undergarments & All"not going to play.

keyser soze
04-19-2012, 10:38 AM
It was a take on what is being said about Mormons...but your choice is fine with me. At the link there is a timeline of christianity and it's branches...the LDS aren't there....

roadmaster
04-19-2012, 10:45 AM
By who? Christians don't use that term. Non-believers do. Anyway done with this thread, no use in asking more questions.

keyser soze
04-19-2012, 10:46 AM
As you wish. Even so...Mormons are considered a 'cult' by 'christians'....when in fact the church is called Latter Day Saints and there are those here who will confirm that there are present day prophets....

The discussion at the link has begun...

Alias
04-19-2012, 12:56 PM
As you wish. Even so...Mormons are considered a 'cult' by 'christians'....when in fact the church is called Latter Day Saints and there are those here who will confirm that there are present day prophets....

The discussion at the link has begun...

I agree that Christianity considers LDS a cult and not biblical Christianity. I don't consider them a dangerous cult to society. Just the opposite. Mormons are patriotic good people. Having a Mormon President doesn't phase me in the least.

keyser soze
04-19-2012, 02:35 PM
They consider themselves christians and not a cult. I think it's the far right fundamentalists that say they're a cult but hell they speak in tongues...what's that about??! No matter...the discussion over there is informative.

Mister D
04-19-2012, 02:37 PM
They consider themselves christians and not a cult. I think it's the far right fundamentalists that say they're a cult but hell they speak in tongues...what's that about??! No matter...the discussion over there is informative.

There are no far right fundamentalists.

keyser soze
04-19-2012, 05:54 PM
:rofl: :rofl:

Mister D
04-19-2012, 06:37 PM
:rofl: :rofl:

Great rebuttal but I guess it kind of makes sense if we are going with your definition of right wing (i.e. right wing = something you don't agree with).