Rutherford Challenging VA election laws that discriminate against 3rd Party candidate

[Codename Section]

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/rutherford_institute_files_first_amendment_lawsuit _challenging_discriminato

The Rutherford Institute is challenging two facets of the Virginia election law: one requires the (D) and (R) to have the lead spots on the ballot, the other requires a certain number of signatures before a third party can be on the ballot. If this is successful, they may carry it over to other states.The lawsuit was filed on behalf of the Libertarian Party of Virginia, several Libertarian Party candidates and an independent (non-party) candidate for public office in the November 2014 general election.
John Whitehead describes the reasoning behind the suit:
“While voting is the very least that we are called to do as citizens, Americans are entitled under the Constitution to elect individuals to office capable of and willing to represent us, rather than being forced to choose from a limited field of individuals with the money and political backing to get on the ballot. Ensuring a level playing field for all candidates for public office will hopefully help transform our present government by oligarchy—one that is of the rich, by the rich and for the rich—to a government that is truly of the people, by the people and for the people.”

Alyosha

should make you a little happier

[Captain Obvious]

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/rutherford_institute_files_first_amendment_lawsuit _challenging_discriminato

The Rutherford Institute is challenging two facets of the Virginia election law: one requires the (D) and (R) to have the lead spots on the ballot, the other requires a certain number of signatures before a third party can be on the ballot. If this is successful, they may carry it over to other states.The lawsuit was filed on behalf of the Libertarian Party of Virginia, several Libertarian Party candidates and an independent (non-party) candidate for public office in the November 2014 general election.
John Whitehead describes the reasoning behind the suit:
“While voting is the very least that we are called to do as citizens, Americans are entitled under the Constitution to elect individuals to office capable of and willing to represent us, rather than being forced to choose from a limited field of individuals with the money and political backing to get on the ballot. Ensuring a level playing field for all candidates for public office will hopefully help transform our present government by oligarchy—one that is of the rich, by the rich and for the rich—to a government that is truly of the people, by the people and for the people.”

@Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)

should make you a little happier

This might be one to watch carefully because the "system" has a way of self-preservation.

[Animal Mother]

This will NOT happen. Nothing will change without physical violence. We're not Iceland.

[Captain Obvious]

This will NOT happen. Nothing will change without physical violence. We're not Iceland.

Agreed, I'm on record for saying that.

And don't expect any violence soon, the average voter is too fat and happy.

[Animal Mother]

Agreed, I'm on record for saying that.

And don't expect any violence soon, the average voter is too fat and happy.

It is possible that it will happen if the perfect storm hits involving vets. Not for nothing when they grabbed Raub there was a HUGE whisper in the vet community. If they'd kept him the full 30 days you would have seen some shit go down.

But they're too smart for that. They'll keep us afloat somehow.

[zelmo1234]

While the country may slip to the point where the people have to protect themselves from the government

We are not there yet and still should work against things like this that try and prevent the change that is really needed

So I use the idea that we need to find great people of character to send to DC and prepare for the worst.

I still have hope, call me a fool

[Animal Mother]

While the country may slip to the point where the people have to protect themselves from the government

We are not there yet and still should work against things like this that try and prevent the change that is really needed

So I use the idea that we need to find great people of character to send to DC and prepare for the worst.

I still have hope, call me a fool

Ok. You're a fool.

[Alyosha]

I only have a second, to comment, but I am going to donate hours to this and I think Peter1469 should, too.

[Adelaide]

I think it's great that people are trying to get parties that aren't the Democrats or Republicans more attention. Quite frankly, there are so many aspects of the US election system that need overhauling, right down to campaign financing and including third party candidates in debates.

[zelmo1234]

I only have a second, to comment, but I am going to donate hours to this and I think @Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10) should, too.

Thank you

Do you need funds for anything?

[zelmo1234]

I think it's great that people are trying to get parties that aren't the Democrats or Republicans more attention. Quite frankly, there are so many aspects of the US election system that need overhauling, right down to campaign financing and including third party candidates in debates.

All fantastic points.

[Green Arrow]

A great first step would be eliminating the ridiculous support limit from debate participation.

[The Sage of Main Street]

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/rutherford_institute_files_first_amendment_lawsuit _challenging_discriminato

The Rutherford Institute is challenging two facets of the Virginia election law: one requires the (D) and (R) to have the lead spots on the ballot, the other requires a certain number of signatures before a third party can be on the ballot. If this is successful, they may carry it over to other states.The lawsuit was filed on behalf of the Libertarian Party of Virginia, several Libertarian Party candidates and an independent (non-party) candidate for public office in the November 2014 general election.
John Whitehead describes the reasoning behind the suit:
“While voting is the very least that we are called to do as citizens, Americans are entitled under the Constitution to elect individuals to office capable of and willing to represent us, rather than being forced to choose from a limited field of individuals with the money and political backing to get on the ballot. Ensuring a level playing field for all candidates for public office will hopefully help transform our present government by oligarchy—one that is of the rich, by the rich and for the rich—to a government that is truly of the people, by the people and for the people.”

@Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)

should make you a little happier Electing is not voting, it is a forced choice of some candidate to do all your voting for you. We can only be represented by referenda; a republic is exclusivist tyranny. I notice that the Rutherford Institute is putting this proposal in the hands of a court instead of in the hands of the voters.

[The Sage of Main Street]

This might be one to watch carefully because the "system" has a way of self-preservation. The Rutherford Institute is part of the self-preservation of the republic's treating the voters as children who need Mommy and Daddy to make all their decisions for them.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Agreed, I'm on record for saying that.

And don't expect any violence soon, the average voter is too fat and happy. No, he is beaten down all his life by self-appointed rulers to the point where all the fight has been taken out of him.

[Peter1469]

I only have a second, to comment, but I am going to donate hours to this and I think @Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10) should, too.

Let me know what you plan to do. I have free time on the weekends and some weeknights.

[Peter1469]

Electing is not voting, it is a forced choice of some candidate to do all your voting for you. We can only be represented by referenda; a republic is exclusivist tyranny. I notice that the Rutherford Institute is putting this proposal in the hands of a court instead of in the hands of the voters.

And a republic is not a democracy.

[The Sage of Main Street]

And a republic is not a democracy. Yes, we found that out with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the People's Republic of China. Capitalism Is Communism for the Rich.

[Peter1469]

Yes, we found that out with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the People's Republic of China. Capitalism Is Communism for the Rich.

1. no we didn't
2. no it isn't

[donttread]

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/rutherford_institute_files_first_amendment_lawsuit _challenging_discriminato

The Rutherford Institute is challenging two facets of the Virginia election law: one requires the (D) and (R) to have the lead spots on the ballot, the other requires a certain number of signatures before a third party can be on the ballot. If this is successful, they may carry it over to other states.The lawsuit was filed on behalf of the Libertarian Party of Virginia, several Libertarian Party candidates and an independent (non-party) candidate for public office in the November 2014 general election.
John Whitehead describes the reasoning behind the suit:
“While voting is the very least that we are called to do as citizens, Americans are entitled under the Constitution to elect individuals to office capable of and willing to represent us, rather than being forced to choose from a limited field of individuals with the money and political backing to get on the ballot. Ensuring a level playing field for all candidates for public office will hopefully help transform our present government by oligarchy—one that is of the rich, by the rich and for the rich—to a government that is truly of the people, by the people and for the people.”

@Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)

should make you a little happier

Since high level judges are merely extension of the Donkepahnt ( a fact even Jon Stewart admitted last night) their rightful protest will likely fall on deaf eards

[The Sage of Main Street]

1. no we didn't
2. no it isn't For a yes-man, you sure use "no" a lot.

[Peter1469]

For a yes-man, you sure use "no" a lot.

Go ahead an make the logical leap..., I must not be a yes man... :shocked:

[The Sage of Main Street]

make the logical leap..., I must not be a yes man... :shocked: To the Big Shots you always say yes to, independent thought is a no-no.

[Peter1469]

To the Big Shots you always say yes to, independent thought is a no-no.

You know what is coming!

Oh!