The Feminist Scourge On America.

[Philly Rabbit]

"Virtue is harder to be got than knowledge of the world; and, if lost in a young man, is seldom recovered." - John Locke

The American family home. The true great society. The society of societies. There was a saying that echoed no truer words: A man's home is his castle, and so it was. The family home, the impregnable wall against the state, the sanctuary for children against all outside evils and influences. The greatest society of societies then extended itself into the community and it's schools as of an atmosphere for learning and symbolic of the country always under the shadow of the cross. No other society on earth could match it's private bastion of moral absolutism and honor, it's deliberate freedom of self expression, it's moral alter of compassion and learning.

The leader, the political mother, Margaret Sanger, was an admirer of Hitler, a racist and a proponent of eugenics and along with the addition of the birth control pill, the Marxists of East-wick began their relentless assault on the fortress of virtue and bastion of privacy and security being the family home using false, overblown statistics such as one in every four women in college were victims of rape which would make a total in today's american society of over forty million women. (Wow!) And that husbands after watching the super bowl and guzzling beer while doing it would conduct the traditional post game activity of beating up their wives. The feminist siren song to american female youth has always been one of anti male propaganda, anti marriage fluff, and pro lesbian relationship promotion in the male's place as a partner. Abortion on demand, the vital lifeline (Ironic as that sounds.) of the feminists has been enshrined in american society for decades and millions of unborn s have been it's victims.

Margaret Sanger, Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug, Gloria Steinem, the list of perpetrators on societal traditional norms among the sexes goes on undaunted. The lies and misinformation about males in america have been repeated so many times, they are now accepted as truth in today's PC society. Hollywood has given the sisters victim status in such ridicules films such as Thelma and Louise, two feminist heroines who couldn't find a decent man anywhere including under the next rock. Then there's been TV and networks such as Lifetime where women are abused and used by no good males 24/7 around the clock. The TV ad exec pretty boys of Madison Ave who all contain the morals of a snake who push relentless consumerism as the key to happiness on the public have given the public a relentless ad campaign of stupid males, dysfunctional males, idiotic moronic males who all survive thanks to the perfect all knowing, all telling intelligentsia females who appear as saintly saviors of the male idiots just in the nick of time rescuing them from another one of their screw ups. And who can ever forget those bumbling, dysfunctional vikings in the credit card ads who always took vacations together and always woman - less ( The ad board room sweeties couldn't figure out a way to insert intelligentsia females into the fray without ruining the comedic displays.) The anti male messages were clear and concise, the female victim status of the country well established and confirmed. The destructive, damaging effects on the country by way of the feminists has included an ever ending preaching to adolescent girls in america that men are evil predators and alternative lesbian lifestyles and pro creation without husbands will give them all happy, fulfilling lives. The pursuit of careers and casual sex (careless sex) is the way to go and the male patriarchy of committed marriage was designed to enslave them permanently.

[sachem]

Bella. I loved her hats.

[Libhater]

Can't wait to see the forum femanazis deny any of those truths from the OP. I got my Irish Guiness on tap just for the occasion. Bring on the show.

[Captain Obvious]

I don't think there are any hardcore feminists on the forum.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

I don't think there are any hardcore feminists on the forum.
Careful. I didn't think the bogeyman liberals of conservative rant-fodder existed before I met Cigar.

[Captain Obvious]

Careful. I didn't think the bogeyman liberals of conservative rant-fodder existed before I met Cigar.

Meh, he's harmless.

Once you figure out he's pretty much a one-trick pony he's easy to ignore.

[Cigar]

:laugh: It must suck losing the Women's Vote

[Libhater]

I don't think there are any hardcore feminists on the forum.

Stop joking with us. There are at least 3 of them, but I doubt you see them respond to this post since it would be quite an embarrassment to defend their femanazi stands.

[Captain Obvious]

:laugh: It must suck losing the Women's Vote

See Gerrard Winstanley - it's like that movie, can't remember the name of it but there's a parrot in the background just singing random lines in random songs, same handful of lines over and over again.

That's our Cigar.

[Adelaide]

Here.

(http://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/166i8a/a_short_introduction_to_feminist_movements/)Or here if you're willing to read an actual book. (http://www.amazon.ca/What-Feminism-Introduction-Feminist-Theory/dp/0761963359)

[Montoya]

I don't think there are any hardcore feminists on the forum.

To extremists like libhater any woman who doesn't keep her mouth shut is a "feminazi".

[Captain Obvious]

To extremists like libhater any woman who doesn't keep her mouth shut is a "feminazi".

Agreed.

I think there are one or two who have feminist views and opinions but from the wingnut stock definition of feminist, no - I'll go out on a limb and say nada, nunca, nadie, nil, nope, nyet.

[Montoya]

Agreed.

I think there are one or two who have feminist views and opinions but from the wingnut stock definition of feminist, no - I'll go out on a limb and say nada, nunca, nadie, nil, nope, nyet.

To extremists like libhater any woman doesn't feel the need to be subjugated by men or "made to stay in the kitchen" is destroy the "fabric" of 'Merica!

[Green Arrow]

Well, this thread will go over well.

[Mister D]

To extremists like libhater any woman doesn't feel the need to be subjugated by men or "made to stay in the kitchen" is destroy the "fabric" of 'Merica!

Pssst...he's a fraud. Imagine if you were pretending to be a conservative. Yeah, it would be about as clumsy and transparent.

[Montoya]

Pssst...he's a fraud. Imagine if you were pretending to be a conservative. Yeah, it would be about as clumsy and transparent.

I really want to agree with you sadly I don't think he's faking it.

[Captain Obvious]

I really want to agree with you sadly I don't think he's faking it.

Nah, he's been caught in the act - on this forum and several others.

[Montoya]

Nah, he's been caught in the act - on this forum and several others.

Really? Can you show me?

[Captain Obvious]

Really? Can you show me?

If I looked hard enough which I have no inclination to.

[PolWatch]

males unite & fight those evil doers...females! there will be a celebration of manliness on the quad at 5 pm. Join in the burning of the jock straps in protest!! In the meantime, unhand yourself 'cause no one is trying to take the family jewels. what a dweeb!

[Captain Obvious]

males unite & fight those evil doers...females! there will be a celebration of manliness on the quad at 5 pm. Join in the burning of the jock straps in protest!! In the meantime, unhand yourself 'cause no one is trying to take the family jewels. what a dweeb!

lol! ...wot

[Paperback Writer]

I really want to agree with you sadly I don't think he's faking it.

He's a liberal troll.

[Seriy]

The feminism took over America for almost 50 years and now is totally ruling in full. Women in just for men worlds. We are living in insane times now.

[Libhater]

The feminism took over America for almost 50 years and now is totally ruling in full. Women in just for men worlds. We are living in insane times now.

Keep talking the truth like that and like me you'll be labeled a liberal plant or a liberal troll. Got to love it as you can see how so many of these people are so easily duped. But I find their suck up to these man hating feminazis to be much more disturbing than their little game of calling me a liberal troll. No, I truly believe these nut cases don't have any clue about much of anything pertaining to politics or to life itself. It might help if they took off their blinders or took off their rose colored glasses long enough to see and accept the truth as it plays out right in front of them.

[1751_Texan]

Sad when one's outlook on the world is based on the evil doings of others.

"Im losing my world because others are acting not as I would wish them to." ...sounds like a 5 year old to me.

[The Sage of Main Street]

:laugh: It must suck losing the Women's Vote It's not polite to tell the true motivation behind this pep talk to picked-on paranoiacs. That is called trolling.

[The Sage of Main Street]

I don't think there are any hardcore feminists on the forum. No femininny titwits or penis-envy piranhas? We are way behind the times.

[Seriy]

NOW - National Organization for Witches !

[Philly Rabbit]

Feminist lies to america's female youth.

* Women live more happier, healthier lives as soon as they get out of troubled marriages as quickly as possible.

* There is no negative effect on children when their parents divorce.

* The concerns and happiness of the parents and not their children are foremost in deciding to divorce.

* There is no difference in fertility rates between women in their twenties and women in their forties.

[lynn]

Do the men on this forum think that women should stay home in physically and mentally abusive relationships with their spouses to raise their male children to repeat history?

[Captain Obvious]

Do the men on this forum think that women should stay home in physically and mentally abusive relationships with their spouses to raise their male children to repeat history?

What?

Where did that come from?

[Seriy]

There is a new wave of feminists hit the war. It is FEMEN movement. They spread like viruses worldwide. FEMEN took over the whole EC and already now spreading here in the US.

[sachem]

What?

Where did that come from?I believe it was in response to this.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/29472-The-Feminist-Scourge-On-America?p=708426&viewfull=1#post708426

[Captain Obvious]

I believe it was in response to this.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/29472-The-Feminist-Scourge-On-America?p=708426&viewfull=1#post708426

Thanks, but neither post makes any sense.

[sachem]

Thanks, but neither post makes any sense.Lynn's does.

[Captain Obvious]

Lynn's does.

Maybe it's an estrogen thing.

[sachem]

Maybe it's an estrogen thing.Probably. People don't think well without it.






:p

[The Sage of Main Street]

"Virtue is harder to be got than knowledge of the world; and, if lost in a young man, is seldom recovered." - John Locke

The American family home. The true great society. The society of societies. There was a saying that echoed no truer words: A man's home is his castle, and so it was. The family home, the impregnable wall against the state, the sanctuary for children against all outside evils and influences. The greatest society of societies then extended itself into the community and it's schools as of an atmosphere for learning and symbolic of the country always under the shadow of the cross. No other society on earth could match it's private bastion of moral absolutism and honor, it's deliberate freedom of self expression, it's moral alter of compassion and learning.

The leader, the political mother, Margaret Sanger, was an admirer of Hitler, a racist and a proponent of eugenics and along with the addition of the birth control pill, the Marxists of East-wick began their relentless assault on the fortress of virtue and bastion of privacy and security being the family home using false, overblown statistics such as one in every four women in college were victims of rape which would make a total in today's american society of over forty million women. (Wow!) And that husbands after watching the super bowl and guzzling beer while doing it would conduct the traditional post game activity of beating up their wives. The feminist siren song to american female youth has always been one of anti male propaganda, anti marriage fluff, and pro lesbian relationship promotion in the male's place as a partner. Abortion on demand, the vital lifeline (Ironic as that sounds.) of the feminists has been enshrined in american society for decades and millions of unborn s have been it's victims.

Margaret Sanger, Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug, Gloria Steinem, the list of perpetrators on societal traditional norms among the sexes goes on undaunted. The lies and misinformation about males in america have been repeated so many times, they are now accepted as truth in today's PC society. Hollywood has given the sisters victim status in such ridicules films such as Thelma and Louise, two feminist heroines who couldn't find a decent man anywhere including under the next rock. Then there's been TV and networks such as Lifetime where women are abused and used by no good males 24/7 around the clock. The TV ad exec pretty boys of Madison Ave who all contain the morals of a snake who push relentless consumerism as the key to happiness on the public have given the public a relentless ad campaign of stupid males, dysfunctional males, idiotic moronic males who all survive thanks to the perfect all knowing, all telling intelligentsia females who appear as saintly saviors of the male idiots just in the nick of time rescuing them from another one of their screw ups. And who can ever forget those bumbling, dysfunctional vikings in the credit card ads who always took vacations together and always woman - less ( The ad board room sweeties couldn't figure out a way to insert intelligentsia females into the fray without ruining the comedic displays.) The anti male messages were clear and concise, the female victim status of the country well established and confirmed. The destructive, damaging effects on the country by way of the feminists has included an ever ending preaching to adolescent girls in america that men are evil predators and alternative lesbian lifestyles and pro creation without husbands will give them all happy, fulfilling lives. The pursuit of careers and casual sex (careless sex) is the way to go and the male patriarchy of committed marriage was designed to enslave them permanently. You brought this on yourselves. No woman will go for some groveling, slobbering, slurping bootlicker even if being an anal-retentive yes-man eventually gets him promoted to being one of the Plutes Who Wear the Boots.

[Ransom]

Do the men on this forum think that women should stay home in physically and mentally abusive relationships with their spouses to raise their male children to repeat history?

Victim mentality winner.

[The Sage of Main Street]

The people in power, the degenerate richest 1%, have the power to control everything. Suckers who think there is an independent Left are tricked into thinking that feminism is a movement of outsiders. But its real motivation has to be exclusively the one driving its most powerful members.

For millennia, the female half of the Heirhead class was shut out from inheriting their fathers' positions or general ranking in society. In this New Age this is not so, doubling the number of controlling positions awarded through birth and not worth. Real men would stand up to this whole illegitimate class and smash it. But not if they themselves are wimps dominated by their own women, so that is the other way the femininnies' emasculating screeching serves our self-elected rulers.

[PolWatch]

NOW - National Organization for Witches !

Absolutely! Even as you sit here, staring at a computer screen, hordes of evil females are casting spells designed to hit males where it will do the most damage. Yes...your worse nightmares are coming true. We are stirring our bubbling cauldrons & cursing the manufacturing plants that make Viagra and other similar drugs. You will never know when the next little blue pill will cause male appendages to disappear. (Beer manufacturing curses are in the planning stages)

Other witches are casting spells to make sure that mother-in-laws the world over move in with their daughters and bring herds of feral cats & yapping chihuahuas!

Next target: the NFL (we fight dirty!) :kiss:

[Ransom]

Can they cast a spell on our resident isolationists?

[PolWatch]

Can they cast a spell on our resident isolationists?

special requests can be submitted...but we are kinda busy now with the Viagra factories...there are a lot of those places!

[Gerrard Winstanley]

The people in power, the degenerate richest 1%, have the power to control everything. Suckers who think there is an independent Left are tricked into thinking that feminism is a movement of outsiders. But its real motivation has to be exclusively the one driving its most powerful members.

For millennia, the female half of the Heirhead class was shut out from inheriting their fathers' positions or general ranking in society. In this New Age this is not so, doubling the number of controlling positions awarded through birth and not worth. Real men would stand up to this whole illegitimate class and smash it. But not if they themselves are wimps dominated by their own women, so that is the other way the femininnies' emasculating screeching serves our self-elected rulers.
He's a misogynist as well!

[Philly Rabbit]

Do the men on this forum think that women should stay home in physically and mentally abusive relationships with their spouses to raise their male children to repeat history?

I think they should stick it out longer for the sake of the children if their marriages develop problems and try to work them out. Many women were glad they did and end up living happy, more emotionally stable lives and with higher combined incomes along the way.

Not all breakups occur because of physical abuse in fact most of them aren't. The breakups occur usually for selfish reasons and a lack of commitment from the start. The divorce option too many times must be included when the marriage begins and that is not a committed marriage.

[birddog]

Rudyard Kipling: "A woman is just a woman, but a cigar, now that's a smoke!" :wink:

[Philly Rabbit]

Lynn's does.

Oh so Lynn is a victim like you are then. So you agree with the feminists on those points I mentioned?

[sachem]

Oh so Lynn is a victim like you are then. So you agree with the feminists on those points I mentioned?I'm not a victim. I don't think lynn is either, but I don't know her so I can't say for sure. I think your views on divorce, if the opposite of what you posted as "feminist lies", are outdated and/or wrong.

[Philly Rabbit]

I'm not a victim. I don't think lynn is either, but I don't know her so I can't say for sure. I think your views on divorce, if the opposite of what you posted as "feminist lies", are outdated and/or wrong.

So women are happier and live more fulfilling lives if they get divorces?

Children are not effected negatively if the parents divorce?

What about the fertility rate? Am I outdated and wrong on that one? Women can just as easily have babies in their forties than they can in their twenties?

[sachem]

So women are happier and live more fulfilling lives if they get divorces?

Children are not effected negatively if the parents divorce?

What about the fertility rate? Am I outdated and wrong on that one? Women can just as easily have babies in their forties than they can in their twenties?

Some do. Certainly.

Yes. Some children are effected negatively, by a divorce, long term, that's still not a reason to stay together. I think they all are effected negatively in the short term.

No. I agree with that. I just need proof from you that any of that is being said, on a regular basis, to young women, by feminists. I don't count one or two extremists spouting off as a concerted effort by feminists to make those points. Or is this just your opinion?

[Ransom]

special requests can be submitted...but we are kinda busy now with the Viagra factories...there are a lot of those places!

Might be cutting your nose off there to spite your face.

[Philly Rabbit]

Some do. Certainly.

Yes. Some children are effected negatively, by a divorce, long term, that's still not a reason to stay together. I think they all are effected negatively in the short term.

No. I agree with that. I just need proof from you that any of that is being said, on a regular basis, to young women, by feminists. I don't count one or two extremists spouting off as a concerted effort by feminists to make those points. Or is this just your opinion?

Tell me why feminists tell women not to smoke if they want to get pregnant but don't tell them that the older they get, the harder it will be for them to get pregnant.

[Philly Rabbit]

More feminist lies to america's female youth.

* Abortion is a simple procedure that doesn't include any pain or discomfort.

* Abortion does not affect future pregnancies and doesn't present any future complications of pregnancy.

* Abortion is not linked to any other diseases such as breast cancer.

* If Roe vs. Wade is overturned, abortion will be illegal throughout the entire country.

[sachem]

Tell me why feminists tell women not to smoke if they want to get pregnant but don't tell them that the older they get, the harder it will be for them to get pregnant.I have no idea. It's not their responsibility? I don't recall feminists telling women not to smoke, unless of course the feminist is in the health field.

You do realize that no matter what anyone tells you, the ultimate choice of what to do is up to you.

[sachem]

More feminist lies to america's female youth.

* Abortion is a simple procedure that doesn't include any pain or discomfort.

* Abortion does not affect future pregnancies and doesn't present any future complications of pregnancy.

* Abortion is not linked to any other diseases such as breast cancer.

* If Roe vs. Wade is overturned, abortion will be illegal throughout the entire country.In this post and others you have put out a lot of things that feminists are telling young females. Put up or shut up. Link your sources or tell us it is only your opinion. Nothing wrong with it being your opinion, but don't present it as fact.

[Alyosha]

In this post and others you have put out a lot of things that feminists are telling young females. Put up or shut up. Link your sources or tell us it is only your opinion. Nothing wrong with it being your opinion, but don't present it as fact.

He means "NOW" and to him that's "feminism".

[sachem]

He means "NOW" and to him that's "feminism".Oh. Thanks.


Don't think I will tell him I still have my "Ratify the ERA" button and was once a member of NOW. Way back in the day.

[PolWatch]

I was never a member of NOW...I had to learn witchcraft on my own....:rollseyes:

[Captain Obvious]

http://cdn.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/fm9.jpg

[PolWatch]

http://cdn.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/fm9.jpg

of course...'cause men know if they insult women, they gonna be cold & lonesome for a long, long time....
:wink:

[Libhater]

Oh. Thanks.


Don't think I will tell him I still have my "Ratify the ERA" button and was once a member of NOW. Way back in the day.

Oh what a surprise that is coming from a hardcore leftist. Next you'll be telling us that you voted for Obama twice and that you would vote for him again if we change the rules and allow a potus a third term. Transparent much!

[Alyosha]

I don't take the full NOW position, but I'm not sure how someone thinks that it is a scourge on America given that most of our lawmakers are male.

Can you explain how a legislature filled with men cannot be blamed for these problems?

[Ransom]

The Women's movement blew it when they refused to take up the fights from the women involved in lawsuits against Bill Clinton. they've never been taken seriously since.

[Captain Obvious]

The Women's movement blew it when they refused to take up the fights from the women involved in lawsuits against Bill Clinton. they've never been taken seriously since.

I don't disagree with that.

And, furthermore, they'll support Hillary when Hillary sat on her ass and did nothing while ol' Bill was jamming cigars up fat, cheezy intern sluts twats.

Because she knows where her bread is buttered.

[Philly Rabbit]

I have no idea. It's not their responsibility? I don't recall feminists telling women not to smoke, unless of course the feminist is in the health field.

You do realize that no matter what anyone tells you, the ultimate choice of what to do is up to you.

We're talking about VITAL women's health issues and not explaining the pitfalls and endangerments to health to young girls just starting out is the same as lying to them.

So why do you think feminists don't tell the whole story to young girls and only their side of the story is all they hear?

[Philly Rabbit]

I don't take the full NOW position, but I'm not sure how someone thinks that it is a scourge on America given that most of our lawmakers are male.

Can you explain how a legislature filled with men cannot be blamed for these problems?

Because if they tell the truth, PC society will ruin their careers.

So you're going to play the victim of men again? Why is it OK for feminists to lie to the country's young girls in that case?

[sachem]

We're talking about VITAL women's health issues and not explaining the pitfalls and endangerments to health to young girls just starting out is the same as lying to them.

So why do you think feminists don't tell the whole story to young girls and only their side of the story is all they hear?"Feminists" aren't a health organization. Not sure what vital health issues you are talking about.

[sachem]

Because if they tell the truth, PC society will ruin their careers.

So you're going to play the victim of men again? Why is it OK for feminists to lie to the country's young girls in that case?Who is this victim of whom you post? Any woman who doesn't see eye to eye with you?

[sachem]

I don't disagree with that.

And, furthermore, they'll support Hillary when Hillary sat on her ass and did nothing while ol' Bill was jamming cigars up fat, cheezy intern sluts twats.

Because she knows where her bread is buttered.A woman has the right to respond any way she chooses to a cheating spouse. Whether you agree or not.

I see it as Hillary working her butt off to get Bill into the WH. Why not get her reward? If that is what she chooses to do. She has to live with it.

[exotix]

*Fema-Nazi's & Sluts ... I haz dem*

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[sachem]

Some of you boys are a bit afraid of assertive women? :D

[Ransom]

Some of you boys are a bit afraid of assertive women? :D

But then when an assertive woman got assertive and filed a lawsuit for harrassment.....some of you NOWers were more than a bit afraid...and exposed yourselves. You're now not to be taken seriously. Ever.

[sachem]

But then when an assertive woman got assertive and filed a lawsuit for harrassment.....some of you NOWers were more than a bit afraid...and exposed yourselves. You're now not to be taken seriously. Ever.Some of you are more afraid than others. ;)

[Ransom]

Some of you are more afraid than others. ;)

Some of us stood behind the Linda Tripps and Kathleen Willeys, others abandoned them when it didn't fit their political agendas. Fear exposed.

You blew it, sachem.

[PolWatch]

Some of you are more afraid than others. ;)

Image: man holding bottle of little blue pills with just the slightest hesitancy before opening it, wondering 'are curses real?'

[sachem]

Some of us stood behind the Linda Tripps and Kathleen Willeys, others abandoned them when it didn't fit their political agendas. Fear exposed.

You blew it, sachem.You are afraid. Wow.

[sachem]

Image: man holding bottle of little blue pills with just the slightest hesitancy before opening it, wondering 'are curses real?';)

[Ransom]

Given a chance to show you truly believed in the causes you spout....imagine the disappointment. How many of us now know you're fake. You blew it.

[undine]

"Virtue is harder to be got than knowledge of the world; and, if lost in a young man, is seldom recovered." - John Locke

The American family home. The true great society. The society of societies. There was a saying that echoed no truer words: A man's home is his castle, and so it was. The family home, the impregnable wall against the state, the sanctuary for children against all outside evils and influences. The greatest society of societies then extended itself into the community and it's schools as of an atmosphere for learning and symbolic of the country always under the shadow of the cross. No other society on earth could match it's private bastion of moral absolutism and honor, it's deliberate freedom of self expression, it's moral alter of compassion and learning.

The leader, the political mother, Margaret Sanger, was an admirer of Hitler, a racist and a proponent of eugenics and along with the addition of the birth control pill, the Marxists of East-wick began their relentless assault on the fortress of virtue and bastion of privacy and security being the family home using false, overblown statistics such as one in every four women in college were victims of rape which would make a total in today's american society of over forty million women. (Wow!) And that husbands after watching the super bowl and guzzling beer while doing it would conduct the traditional post game activity of beating up their wives. The feminist siren song to american female youth has always been one of anti male propaganda, anti marriage fluff, and pro lesbian relationship promotion in the male's place as a partner. Abortion on demand, the vital lifeline (Ironic as that sounds.) of the feminists has been enshrined in american society for decades and millions of unborn s have been it's victims.

Margaret Sanger, Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug, Gloria Steinem, the list of perpetrators on societal traditional norms among the sexes goes on undaunted. The lies and misinformation about males in america have been repeated so many times, they are now accepted as truth in today's PC society. Hollywood has given the sisters victim status in such ridicules films such as Thelma and Louise, two feminist heroines who couldn't find a decent man anywhere including under the next rock. Then there's been TV and networks such as Lifetime where women are abused and used by no good males 24/7 around the clock. The TV ad exec pretty boys of Madison Ave who all contain the morals of a snake who push relentless consumerism as the key to happiness on the public have given the public a relentless ad campaign of stupid males, dysfunctional males, idiotic moronic males who all survive thanks to the perfect all knowing, all telling intelligentsia females who appear as saintly saviors of the male idiots just in the nick of time rescuing them from another one of their screw ups. And who can ever forget those bumbling, dysfunctional vikings in the credit card ads who always took vacations together and always woman - less ( The ad board room sweeties couldn't figure out a way to insert intelligentsia females into the fray without ruining the comedic displays.) The anti male messages were clear and concise, the female victim status of the country well established and confirmed. The destructive, damaging effects on the country by way of the feminists has included an ever ending preaching to adolescent girls in america that men are evil predators and alternative lesbian lifestyles and pro creation without husbands will give them all happy, fulfilling lives. The pursuit of careers and casual sex (careless sex) is the way to go and the male patriarchy of committed marriage was designed to enslave them permanently.

If you are an example of a man I really can't fault any woman for becoming a rabid feminist.

[Ransom]

I expected consistency. Should women have been supported when it was one of your heroes doing the harrassing, you'd have more integrity. Instead, you f'n blew it.

[sachem]

Given a chance to show you truly believed in the causes you spout....imagine the disappointment. How many of us now know you're fake. You blew it.Was I spouting? About how scared you are?

[Polecat]

In a nutshell.....if she wants on top I'm OK with that.

[sachem]

I expected consistency. Should women have been supported when it was one of your heroes doing the harrassing, you'd have more integrity. Instead, you f'n blew it.Is this addressed to me? Who exactly is my hero? I think you are making a lot of assumptions. Fear will do that to you.

[The Sage of Main Street]

He's a misogynist as well! More denial from an unAmerican lover of aristocracy.

[Seriy]

These smelly FEMEN dykes came to America, NYC


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-Bh_wuWPc

Shoot them all !

[Peter1469]

These smelly FEMEN dykes came to America, NYC


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-Bh_wuWPc

Shoot them all !

You want to shoot lesbians? :shocked: You sir, need to be locked up.

[sachem]

These smelly FEMEN dykes came to America, NYC


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-Bh_wuWPc

Shoot them all !Gee, lots of guys like girl on girl porn.

[Ransom]

Is this addressed to me? Who exactly is my hero? I think you are making a lot of assumptions. Fear will do that to you.

It was a worthy cause and you blew it.

[Seriy]

Actually FEMEN are not dykes, but they are feminists of the new dangerous breed that spreads worldwide like flu virus. They got EC, not they're going to recruit American girls to become one of them and go topless with these rotten flowers and ribbons on their lice heads.

[Peter1469]

Actually FEMEN are not dykes, but they are feminists of the new dangerous breed that spreads worldwide like flu virus. They got EC, not they're going to recruit American girls to become one of them and go topless with these rotten flowers and ribbons on their lice heads.
You win the loon of the day award.

I hope you aren't around children.

[Seriy]

You win the loon of the day award.

I hope you aren't around children.
With children ? Wrong. Better to keep kids from those topless types and from gay adoptions and from pedophile activists like NAMBLA. That what we must to do to save our kids' future.

[Peter1469]

With children ? Wrong. Better to keep kids from those topless types and from gay adoptions and from pedophile activists like NAMBLA. That what we must to do to save our kids' future.

You are a loon. I hope you don't have control over any youths.

[Seriy]

You want to shoot lesbians? :shocked: You sir, need to be locked up.
No one of us and me are going to shoot these perverts to Hell. We don't need to pay with our freedoms and lives for these perverts. Let God judge them. Our duty is to bar them from moral society.

[Peter1469]

No one of us and me are going to shoot these perverts to Hell. We don't need to pay with our freedoms and lives for these perverts. Let God judge them. Our duty is to bar them from moral society.

OMG... a fucking loon...

[Ransom]

OMG... a fucking loon...

:rulez:

[Philly Rabbit]

More feminist lies to america's female youth.


* Women can have a successful managerial career including in the corporate world and still have plenty of time to spend with their families.

* Most women want career high paying positions regardless of whether or not they have families.

* There is a "wage gap" between women and men in the work force of 75 cents an hour on average.

* Women work just as many hours as men per day.

[Philly Rabbit]

If you are an example of a man I really can't fault any woman for becoming a rabid feminist.

if you're going to take on the sacred cows of the establishment, namely the feminists, you better had developed think skin before you do. They are the establishment's biggest victims and loudest whiners.

The entire establishment will come down on you from all sides in fact. Be prepared and ready.

[PolWatch]

hmm...the last fella I heard make remarks like these was still angry at the girl who refused his invitation to the Prom...she had the gall to attend college & later became an executive in a large corporation...while he was stocking shelves at Wal-Mart. 'course, it could still be unresolved issues with weaning or potty training...

[The Sage of Main Street]

With children ? Wrong. Better to keep kids from those topless types and from gay adoptions and from pedophile activists like NAMBLA. That what we must to do to save our kids' future.


You are a loon. I hope you don't have control over any youths. If Seriy is as bad as you pontifically declare he is, the Boytoy Scouts of America will want to recruit him as one of their troop leaders.

[The Sage of Main Street]

More feminist lies to america's female youth.


* Women can have a successful managerial career including in the corporate world and still have plenty of time to spend with their families.




. This delusion is what caused my brother's divorce. It is inextricably connected with unpaid education. A beautiful girl who could have gotten rich guys or even guys with jobs to treat her in style, she must have subconsciously resented what dating someone in student poverty had deprived her of. So even though she was a fool in love and never did become a gold-digger, she resentfully turned to being exclusively career woman because of that.

[The Sage of Main Street]

hmm...the last fella I heard make remarks like these was still angry at the girl who refused his invitation to the Prom...she had the gall to attend college & later became an executive in a large corporation...while he was stocking shelves at Wal-Mart. 'course, it could still be unresolved issues with weaning or potty training... Yeah, he should have sucked his thumb in college, working without pay and living like a little boy afraid to grow up. Why are these class-climbing brown-noses rewarded? Because fat cats love mice.

[ChoppedLiver]

You are a loon. I hope you don't have control over any youths.

:rulez:

:cool

[Philly Rabbit]

hmm...the last fella I heard make remarks like these was still angry at the girl who refused his invitation to the Prom...she had the gall to attend college & later became an executive in a large corporation...while he was stocking shelves at Wal-Mart. 'course, it could still be unresolved issues with weaning or potty training...

Now I've kept this general and the personal attacks have magnified. What did I just say?

[Philly Rabbit]

hmm...the last fella I heard make remarks like these was still angry at the girl who refused his invitation to the Prom...she had the gall to attend college & later became an executive in a large corporation...while he was stocking shelves at Wal-Mart. 'course, it could still be unresolved issues with weaning or potty training...

Women with families at home don't want to be corporate climbers. The majority of women with families at home want part time jobs or volunteer work. The majority of women with families at home who have to work full time do it out of financial necessity.

The average woman with a family spends ten years out of the work force caring for her children in fact.

- myth busters.

[PolWatch]

GALLUP.COM reports:
(http://www.gallup.com/poll/157313/half-women-prefer-job-outside-home.aspx)Half of all women in the U.S., 51%, say that if free to do either, they would rather have a job outside the home than "stay at home and take care of the house and family," similar to the rate seen since 2007. This contrasts with 76% of men.


http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wf38bljcmkovcmol7xkdcw.gif

[Peter1469]

I have known a couple of guys who did the stay at home dad thing. Over time their wives lost interest in them.

[Mainecoons]

GALLUP.COM reports:
(http://www.gallup.com/poll/157313/half-women-prefer-job-outside-home.aspx)Half of all women in the U.S., 51%, say that if free to do either, they would rather have a job outside the home than "stay at home and take care of the house and family," similar to the rate seen since 2007. This contrasts with 76% of men.


http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wf38bljcmkovcmol7xkdcw.gif

And then we wonder why we have all these basically unraised young people running around.

Day care is no substitute for mom.

Very interesting find, thanks for posting it.

[Philly Rabbit]

GALLUP.COM reports:
(http://www.gallup.com/poll/157313/half-women-prefer-job-outside-home.aspx)Half of all women in the U.S., 51%, say that if free to do either, they would rather have a job outside the home than "stay at home and take care of the house and family," similar to the rate seen since 2007. This contrasts with 76% of men.



http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/wf38bljcmkovcmol7xkdcw.gif



Does it say that the majority of women with families want part time jobs or volunteer work outside the home and they DO NOT want to climb the corporate ladder?

Climbing the corporate ladder requires a great deal of hard work and endless hours and 0 time for their families.

[PolWatch]

its says what it says... Maybe it really means that women who work are married to lazy/uneducated men who can't/won't hold a job? Maybe it means their husbands can't provide financial security for the family? Its a tough choice and there are too many women who successfully do it to say it can't be done. Sometimes, staying at home doesn't mean they want to be or are excellent mothers, sometimes they are lazy...just like some men. Oddly, I have always suspected women are human and therefore, it is impossible to make sweeping statements (as have been posted above) that apply to all.

[Dr. Who]

OMG... a fucking loon...
No name calling.

[Ransom]

A woman has the right to respond any way she chooses to a cheating spouse. Whether you agree or not.

I see it as Hillary working her butt off to get Bill into the WH. Why not get her reward? If that is what she chooses to do. She has to live with it.

Missing the point as usual I see. A woman has the right to judge another's cheating spouse too...and many of you claiming to support women and their equality refused to take their hero to task. Bill was cheating at work. This in the year of the woman, national discussions about women in the workplace, women's right to enter all male schools like the Citadel. Tailhook became a household name, and Bill Clinton is shagging the young intern.

Another of my examples is David Letterman. Sleeps with nearly every employee he has.....admits it.....but no one takes him to task, he's a spokesperson for exploitation of women and yet his show gets visits from the likes of the First Lady.

[Seriy]

There are two demonic agendas that bring once good strong nations down. These are radical feminist and gay agenda. These perversions did destroyed strong empires in history as those nations gave them green light. The Ancient Greece, Carthage, Rome, England. This is about to happen to American empire. We didn't close down the Liberal Pandora box as it got opened in the 1960s. Now is to pay the price to God.

[Peter1469]

There are two demonic agendas that bring once good strong nations down. These are radical feminist and gay agenda. These perversions did destroyed strong empires in history as those nations gave them green light. The Ancient Greece, Carthage, Rome, England. This is about to happen to American empire. We didn't close down the Liberal Pandora box as it got opened in the 1960s. Now is to pay the price to God.


Oh boy....

[Mister D]

Oh boy....

The hyperbole is a little silly. That said, radical feminism is degenerate and is not intellectually respectable.

[ChoppedLiver]

Margaret Sanger, Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug, Gloria Steinem, the list of perpetrators on societal traditional norms among the sexes goes on undaunted.

These twits and those like them should be put in their collective place and taught to make samiches. But, most likely, they'll probably have to learn the task the hard way.

:cool:

[Philly Rabbit]

its says what it says... Maybe it really means that women who work are married to lazy/uneducated men who can't/won't hold a job? Maybe it means their husbands can't provide financial security for the family? Its a tough choice and there are too many women who successfully do it to say it can't be done. Sometimes, staying at home doesn't mean they want to be or are excellent mothers, sometimes they are lazy...just like some men. Oddly, I have always suspected women are human and therefore, it is impossible to make sweeping statements (as have been posted above) that apply to all.

No it means that most women with families don't want to climb the cooperate ladder, they would prefer a part time job or volunteer work which is what your little chart doesn't point out. That is besides those who would prefer to stay home altogether with their families.

Just like I already told you.

[Seriy]

National Organization for Women is for short NOW. Better to spell as National Organization for Witches.

[Philly Rabbit]

Another feminist lie to the female youth of america:

(All) women prefer to place their children in government healthcare centers so they can work full time and pursue their careers.

"It takes a village to raise a child." - Hillary Clinton

[Ransom]

I believe it was Rome that brought down Carthage.

[Ransom]

Now, I actually do think it takes a village. A church. A market. A school. A common defense. A common culture. I would have put private sector in front of village in that statement....and where individual rights and private property rights are unmolested. Where citizens give consent to the government in order to govern.

[Peter1469]

Carthage was put down by Rome. General Scipio Aemilianus left no stone unturned so to speak.

[Seriy]

I believe it was Rome that brought down Carthage.
Yes it was. Rome was in moral ways, when the Punic War went on. Carthage was abomination likewise Biblical Nineveh, until Prophet Jonah warned them.

[Peter1469]

Yes it was. Rome was in moral ways, when the Punic War went on. Carthage was abomination likewise Biblical Nineveh, until Prophet Jonah warned them.

That is pretty lame.

Carthage was a great nation, they just pissed off the wrong empire.

[Seriy]

That is pretty lame.

Carthage was a great nation, they just pissed off the wrong empire.
Yes Carthage was a great rich nation. But their deeds were abomination against God. While they were rich and prosperous, they brutally burn their children as sacrifices to their gods. There are skeletal artifacts of those sacrificial children are still being found in Carthage's ruins. Also, all types of sexual immorality was there as it was in Sodom.

[Peter1469]

Yes Carthage was a great rich nation. But their deeds were abomination against God. While they were rich and prosperous, they brutally burn their children as sacrifices to their gods. There are skeletal artifacts of those sacrificial children are still being found in Carthage's ruins. Also, all types of sexual immorality was there as it was in Sodom.

Your version of scripture is fucked up.

Genesis tells you up front- the Nephilim and their mix with humans was the problem- this misdirection with gays and hate of them is evil. But, humans tend to be stupid.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Yes Carthage was a great rich nation. But their deeds were abomination against God. While they were rich and prosperous, they brutally burn their children as sacrifices to their gods. There are skeletal artifacts of those sacrificial children are still being found in Carthage's ruins. Also, all types of sexual immorality was there as it was in Sodom.
Carthaginian child sacrifice is most likely a myth. Only Roman and Greek sources speak of it, and the alleged site of the infanticide looks suspiciously like a necropolis.

[Peter1469]

Carthaginian child sacrifice is most likely a myth. Only Roman sources speak of it, and the alleged site of the infanticide looks suspiciously like a necropolis.Fundies have their own alternative history. Fantasy.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Fundies have their own alternative history. Fantasy.
I'll give a pass on that one. It doesn't help that some of our favorite ancient sources (including Plutarch) have propounded it.

[Mister D]

Carthaginian child sacrifice is most likely a myth. Only Roman sources speak of it, and the alleged site of the infanticide looks suspiciously like a necropolis.

There is hardly any consensus on that and many researchers believe the Tophet remains are in fact those of sacrificial victims. The Greeks, The Romans, and the bible mention the practice. It seems most plausible to me that it happened.

[Mister D]

Fundies have their own alternative history. Fantasy.

So do progressives who do not wish to believe infant sacrifice, cannibalism etc. were actually practiced by real human beings.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

There is hardly any consensus on that and many researchers believe the Tophet remains are in fact those of sacrificial victims. The Greeks, The Romans, and the bible mention the practice. It seems most plausible to me that it happened.
The Greek and Roman scholars we have aren't likely to be reliable, given their animosity towards anything foreign. There's a precedent for such slanderous fabrications in the myth of the Spartan Apothetae, a chasm into which deformed infants were purportedly discarded by governmental decree. The only remains unearthed there to date have been adult males, suggesting it was a means of executing condemned prisoners. Plutarch, who reports Carthaginian infanticide, also advocated this one.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

So do progressives who do not wish to believe infant sacrifice, cannibalism etc. were actually practiced by real human beings.
It's the progressives trying to expose these societies as barbarous, meaningless wastes, devoid of any recognizable social code.

[Mister D]

The Greek and Roman scholars we have aren't likely to be reliable, given their animosity towards anything foreign.

IOW, you simply don't wish to believe them.


There's a precedent for such slanderous fabrications in the myth of the Spartan Apothetae, a chasm into which deformed infants were purportedly discarded by governmental decree. The only remains unearthed there to date have been adult males, suggesting it was a means of executing condemned prisoners. Plutarch, who reports Carthaginian infanticide, also advocated this one.

There are "slanderous fabrications" throughout the historical record. If we take our skepticism to that degree we may as well stop talking about history. Why believe anything?

[Mister D]

It's the progressives trying to expose these societies as barbarous, meaningless wastes, devoid of any recognizable social code.

This is what I mean. For you, this isn't about a plausible reconstruction of what actually happened but rather the social effects such reconstructions might have.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

IOW, you simply don't wish to believe them.
Why not? I am, in your own words, infected with the neoliberal disease termed "presentism". :grin:

There are "slanderous fabrications" throughout the historical record. If we take our skepticism to that degree we may as well stop talking about history. We believe anything?
Where the archaeological record casts doubt, and where the expositor in question has a history of making fallacious statements, there's a good reason for skepticism. Look up the Apothetae excavation if you dispute my statements regarding Plutarch.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

This is what I mean. For you, this isn't about a plausible reconstruction of what actually happened but rather the social effects such reconstructions might have.
What are you talking about?

[Mister D]

What are you talking about?

This


It's the progressives trying to expose these societies as barbarous, meaningless wastes, devoid of any recognizable social code.

no one is doing that.

[Philly Rabbit]

We're doing the ancient Romans and Greeks now?

Let me bring it more on topic. Did you know (feminists) that in the ancient world, the Jews were the only society that was pro life according to the teachings of their Hebrew Bible? All the other pagan societies including the Romans practiced abortion and infanticide.

So I guess that means that the feminists desire a pagan - like society with no practicing orthodox Jews in it.

[PolWatch]

History is revised...but I think most of the revisions are due to better methods of research. The first history books were written well before techniques such as carbon dating were available. Ancient history was reserved for the (mainly) amateur who had the time & money to devote to it...very little was written by professionals with no preconceived ideas. Research today is a science...not a hobby.

[Mister D]

Why not? I am, in your own words, infected with the neoliberal disease termed "presentism". :grin:

Where the archaeological record casts doubt, and where the expositor in question has a history of making fallacious statements, there's a good reason for skepticism. Look up the Apothetae excavation if you dispute my statements regarding Plutarch.

There is some pretty ugly shit going on in the present. :smiley:

The archaeological record has to be interpreted. There is almost always room for doubt. I don't dispute your statements about Plutarch. I look at this way: the practice is mentioned by Classical writers, it's mentioned in the bible, and there is archaeological evidence for it. It seems most plausible to me that it in fact occurred.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

This



no one is doing that.
They are. How else is it that this public perception of the ancient world as a chaotic, senseless mess comes into being?

[Mister D]

History is revised...but I think most of the revisions are due to better methods of research. The first history books were written well before techniques such as carbon dating were available. Ancient history was reserved for the (mainly) amateur who had the time & money to devote to it...very little was written by professionals with no preconceived ideas. Research today is a science...not a hobby.

History is not science. That history is in any way an objective presentation of the facts is a 19th Century conceit.

[Mister D]

They are. How else is it that this public perception of the ancient world as a chaotic, senseless mess comes into being?

The perception of the past as a tale of barbarism stems from liberalism and the cult of progress. In any case, moderns have some freakin' gall. Two world wars, numerous genocides, atomic weapons...bitches please.

[PolWatch]

We can never know with absolute certainty what a particular item was used for. That is interpretation of the facts about age, location of material for creation of the object, etc. That is the science I am talking about. Knowing where a particular type of stone was available makes a difference in knowledge of trade routes, etc., when the item is found in a distant area. That is a fact based on scientific analysis of the item.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

There is some pretty ugly shit going on in the present. :smiley:
No way.

The archaeological record has to be interpreted. There is almost always room for doubt. I don't dispute your statements about Plutarch. I look at this way: the practice is mentioned by Classical writers, it's mentioned in the bible, and there is archaeological evidence for it. It seems most plausible to me that it in fact occurred.
The wide age range of Carthaginian 'sacrifice' victims, and the presence of females among them, contradicts the ancient accounts.

I don't think the ancient writers sat down and made this stuff up. They were merely reporting hearsay.

[Peter1469]

I'll give a pass on that one. It doesn't help that some of our favorite ancient sources (including Plutarch) have propounded it.No I am speaking of Seriy's crazy interpretation.

[PolWatch]

No I am speaking of Seriy's crazy interpretation.

somedays I forget: 'I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it'. George Bernard Shaw

[Gerrard Winstanley]

No I am speaking of Seriy's crazy interpretation.
He was merely parroting the long-accepted line.

[Peter1469]

He was merely parroting the long-accepted line.

I just pointed out that it is fucking stupid.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

I just pointed out that it is fucking stupid.
Stupidity floods this forum daily. It's a hell of a lot better than some other places I know, thankfully.

[The Sage of Main Street]

carthage was put down by rome. General scipio aemilianus left no stone unturned so to speak. Delenda Est Arabia

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Delenda Est Arabia
http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/04d/593/a73/resized/unexpected-monk-meme-generator-do-me-a-favor-and-get-the-fuck-out-5acdec.jpg?1331684804.jpg

[The Sage of Main Street]

Yes it was. Rome was in moral ways, when the Punic War went on. Carthage was abomination likewise Biblical Nineveh, until Prophet Jonah warned them. Don't forget fairyphile Sodom and Gomorrah, though I believe they were wiped out by an early plague of AIDS, which then went dormant for centuries. Also, Athens had a plague of it during the peak of the pedophile fad, around 400 BC. Pre-guillotine France was so corrupt that the most common reason for marriage was to pimp your wife to the aristocrats.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Fundies have their own alternative history. Fantasy. So do Postmoderns. In fact, they play off each other, each feeling morally superior because of the absurd claims of the other.

[The Sage of Main Street]

We can never know with absolute certainty what a particular item was used for. That is interpretation of the facts about age, location of material for creation of the object, etc. That is the science I am talking about. Knowing where a particular type of stone was available makes a difference in knowledge of trade routes, etc., when the item is found in a distant area. That is a fact based on scientific analysis of the item. Academic archeologists are crackpots searching for cracked pots.

[PolWatch]

:rollseyes:

[Mister D]

No way.

The wide age range of Carthaginian 'sacrifice' victims, and the presence of females among them, contradicts the ancient accounts.

I don't think the ancient writers sat down and made this stuff up. They were merely reporting hearsay.

Agree to disagree? :smiley:

The last study I saw was in an issue of BAR.

http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/daily-life-and-practice/at-carthage-child-sacrifice/

[Philly Rabbit]

Now, I actually do think it takes a village. A church. A market. A school. A common defense. A common culture. I would have put private sector in front of village in that statement....and where individual rights and private property rights are unmolested. Where citizens give consent to the government in order to govern.

You can spare me the political correctness if you don't mind. I support the concept of the community as do most conservatives. I support helping my neighbor out and keeping my eye open for my neighbor's kids. I also support the old fashioned notion of community police who know me by my first name and don't call me sir this and sir that and view me as just another potential criminal.

But let us draw a line between all that and the feminists who support the expansion of government and the welfare state and who collectively through their organizations support liberal democratic candidates during elections.

[Philly Rabbit]

There are two demonic agendas that bring once good strong nations down. These are radical feminist and gay agenda. These perversions did destroyed strong empires in history as those nations gave them green light. The Ancient Greece, Carthage, Rome, England. This is about to happen to American empire. We didn't close down the Liberal Pandora box as it got opened in the 1960s. Now is to pay the price to God.

Here, here, you are absolutely correct and right on target.

[Philly Rabbit]

More feminist lies to america's female youth.

Women can now "have it all."

Institutionalized daycare, trained professionals, and the administering of behavioral drugs are benefits to children which give them great advantages over children being raised at home by amateurs (mothers) who are always preoccupied with other things.

And this one is in the running for the biggest lie of them all:

Women go to the polls to vote on women's issues and abortion as their number one priority.

[spunkloaf]

You know, there really isn't a scourge or insurgence or much of an attack being done by anybody in any party. The closest thing to it is Bachmann's smearing of gays, trying to paint them as evildoers. Otherwise it's a bunch of people trying to overcome oppression, and a bunch of other people trying to negate their efforts because they feel better when they have the upper hand.

[spunkloaf]

More feminist lies to america's female youth.

Women can now "have it all."

Institutionalized daycare, trained professionals, and the administering of behavioral drugs are benefits to children which give them great advantages over children being raised at home by amateurs (mothers) who are always preoccupied with other things.

And this one is in the running for the biggest lie of them all:

Women go to the polls to vote on women's issues and abortion as their number one priority.

If you're convinced of this without any intention to waver, and are not willing to consider anything that may discredit your feelings about women, then there is not much to debate. But I disagree.

[Philly Rabbit]

You know, there really isn't a scourge or insurgence or much of an attack being done by anybody in any party. The closest thing to it is Bachmann's smearing of gays, trying to paint them as evildoers. Otherwise it's a bunch of people trying to overcome oppression, and a bunch of other people trying to negate their efforts because they feel better when they have the upper hand.

And then there's me, who challenges the establishment and their PC rules over the lying mouths of feminists.

[Philly Rabbit]

If you're convinced of this without any intention to waver, and are not willing to consider anything that may discredit your feelings about women, then there is not much to debate. But I disagree.

Women who want to stay home with their children and make sacrifices like skipping cruises and new cars and "fun" and live on a single income instead of a dual income are being forced by people like you to go to work because of the enormous cost of institutionalized daycare.

[Ransom]

You can spare me the political correctness if you don't mind. I support the concept of the community as do most conservatives. I support helping my neighbor out and keeping my eye open for my neighbor's kids. I also support the old fashioned notion of community police who know me by my first name and don't call me sir this and sir that and view me as just another potential criminal.

But let us draw a line between all that and the feminists who support the expansion of government and the welfare state and who collectively through their organizations support liberal democratic candidates during elections.

I did draw the line, where I call for the private sector to provide this community. Build markets and a free society...and your children flourish. No political correctness to it at all.

[Philly Rabbit]

And this note: I would appreciate it if the people who have hijacked the OP and have diverted this topic to a discussion on ancient cultures would stop doing that and go start your own threads on the topic. I don't hijack other people's discussions in this forum so please don't hijack this discussion.

Although I know that all of you don't like the topic because it's not PC and shouldn't be viewed at all let alone discussed.

[Captain Obvious]

And this note: I would appreciate it if the people who have hijacked the OP and have diverted this topic to a discussion on ancient cultures would stop doing that and go start your own threads on the topic. I don't hijack other people's discussions in this forum so please don't hijack this discussion.

Although I know that all of you don't like the topic because it's not PC and shouldn't be viewed at all let alone discussed.

good luck with that

[The Sage of Main Street]

You know, there really isn't a scourge or insurgence or much of an attack being done by anybody in any party. The closest thing to it is Bachmann's smearing of gays, trying to paint them as evildoers. Otherwise it's a bunch of people trying to overcome oppression, and a bunch of other people trying to negate their efforts because they feel better when they have the upper hand. True, the Gayists will have the upper hand right where they want it to stay as they leave no child's behind.

[Philly Rabbit]

All it took was one feminist from upper middle class privilege who took women' s studies at college to come on the thread and play the victim card - just one, and all the males ran for the hills and this thread dropped dead in it's tracks.

............. Very telling.

[Seriy]

This old witch never gets old.

8512

[Cthulhu]

I don't take the full NOW position, but I'm not sure how someone thinks that it is a scourge on America given that most of our lawmakers are male.

Can you explain how a legislature filled with men cannot be blamed for these problems?
@Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)

The fact that the bulk of them are male has nothing to do with it.

The fact that they are easily corruptible and stem from corrupt stock has everything to do with it.

Hillary Clinton isn't exactly a rose, nor is gun grabbing FrankenFeinstein either. Both of which are females. Both of which are in politics.

Perhaps it is the profession and the vultures that surround it and flock to it that is the problem, not the gender in question.

Just sayin'.

[Philly Rabbit]

My God, look at what the feminists have done to western - american literature. You can't even learn western literature anymore in college. The literature professors are all a bunch of lackeys for the feminists. If you take a western - american literature course in college, what you'll get is Marxism and feminist, anti white male propaganda literature instead.

Western literature's masculinity, Christianity, and it's Anglo Saxon - Germanic heritage have all been completely eradicated by the feminists. William Shakespeare for heaven's sake, one of the great writers of western civilization has been demonized and compared to Hitler.

[Cthulhu]

My God, look at what the feminists have done to western - american literature. You can't even learn western literature anymore in college. The literature professors are all a bunch of lackeys for the feminists. If you take a western - american literature course in college, what you'll get is Marxism and feminist, anti white male propaganda literature instead.

Western literature's masculinity, Christianity, and it's Anglo Saxon - Germanic heritage have all been completely eradicated by the feminists. William Shakespeare for heaven's sake, one of the great writers of western civilization has been demonized and compared to Hitler.

When you destroy either sex's role in society, that society will unravel. Men are being taught they are retarded, useless, can only function in the guidance of a woman, as a general rule they are always wrong, oh and it is humorous to hit them.

This produces the modern male, shadows and dost of what he is supposed to be - a man.

But let us consider for a moment the other side off the coin shall we? It isn't just men under attack. Women have been suffering from the onslaught as well. Being denigrated to little more than sex objects can have ruinous effect on a person. Also having your head filled with junk doesn't help much either(both sexes have this problem, see: public education).

Men aren't the only victims here. The entire nuclear family is under attack.

[undine]

Women who want to stay home with their children and make sacrifices like skipping cruises and new cars and "fun" and live on a single income instead of a dual income are being forced by people like you to go to work because of the enormous cost of institutionalized daycare.
Not that much of anything you've posted makes sense, but this makes even less sense. Why would someone need to worry about the cost of day care if he or she stayed home with the children instead of working outside of the home?

[Philly Rabbit]

Not that much of anything you've posted makes sense, but this makes even less sense. Why would someone need to worry about the cost of day care if he or she stayed home with the children instead of working outside of the home?

Because they can't afford to stay home because of the cost of daycare among other things tax wise.