MSNBC's Chuck Todd said whaaaat?

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Via Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/chuck-todd-impeachment-109533.html):


Chuck Todd on Wednesday railed against both the White House and congressional Republicans for engaging in "disgusting" and "embarrassing" rhetoric on impeachment and suing the president.

"This is sort of an embarrassing moment for Washington," the NBC News chief White House correspondent said. "The leaders for both parties here -- they're driving away people from the polls, they're driving people away from politics. This is cynical, it's ugly, it's disgusting."


The "Morning Joe" panel was discussing reports that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has raised $2.1 million on fundraising largely related to its campaign materials that Republicans are trying to impeach Obama. At a White House press briefing on Tuesday, press secretary Josh Earnest read a list of GOP lawmakers that have suggested impeaching the president and said he wouldn't call on Democrats to stop fundraising on the issue.


House Speaker John Boehner -- who is pursuing a lawsuit against the president for executive overreach related to his decision to delay the Affordable Care Act's employer mandate -- has called the impeachment talk a "scam" and said Democrats were using the issue just to anger the liberal base.


Todd declared a plague on both their houses, criticizing both Boehner and the White House for "embarrassing" tactics.


"This is the most cynical -- Boehner's up there with this ridiculous lawsuit, Josh Earnest sitting at the podium trying to tick off names of, 'Look at Republicans who want impeachment' -- it's not serious," Todd said. "The lawsuit's not serious. The impeachment talk's not serious. This is playground stuff. This is embarrassing."


The political analyst went on to say that Boehner's lawsuit against the president is disingenuous because it's "about placating the impeachment caucus in his own party" and said that the upcoming November elections are shaping up to be a low turnout, "awful base election" because the U.S. public is disenchanted with both parties.

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Even a stopped clock is right at least twice a day. Folks are waking up to reality.

[PolWatch]

If you want to read a really good book that traces the modern attitudes towards politics, check out "Shadow - Five Presidents & the Legacy of Watergate" by Bob Woodward. The number of 'special investigations' and threats of impeachment used as political weapons is appalling. Nixon really opened a can of worms for every president that followed.

[1751_Texan]

Did Bob Woodward think he was just writing a good newspaper piece?

[Matty]

I didn't realize how stupid Chuck Todd is. The lawsuit is not ridiculous. Not at all. The Republicans need to go further and de fund some of the Obama bullshit. I watched the proceedings yesterday. Instead of discussing the merits of the arguments the Democrats did the usual divisive bullshit. It will be interesting to see how this goes. The outcome of this will affect all future Presidents. And all during The Bush Presidency guess what democrats whined about? That's right abuse of executive power.

[Green Arrow]

I didn't realize how stupid Chuck Todd is. The lawsuit is not ridiculous. Not at all. The Republicans need to go further and de fund some of the Obama bullshit. I watched the proceedings yesterday. Instead of discussing the merits of the arguments the Democrats did the usual divisive bullshit. It will be interesting to see how this goes. The outcome of this will affect all future Presidents. And all during The Bush Presidency guess what democrats whined about? That's right abuse of executive power.

Way to miss the point.

[Libhater]

Way to miss the point.

I don't see where she missed the point at all. Perhaps you could define the point in your own words, rather than to leave the people hanging to interpret the piece on their own. You are after all the person posting it, show or give us some personal interpretation. I once read where someone said its not polite etiquette to post a link without having a personal touch to go along with the narrative. Woops, that may have been YOU!!

[Peter1469]

I expect the courts to say no standing and remind the House that it has remedies. The power of the purse, and impeachment. The courts likely will not want to get involved.

[donttread]

Via Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/chuck-todd-impeachment-109533.html):



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Even a stopped clock is right at least twice a day. Folks are waking up to reality.

It's a diversion from the fact that they are stealing us blind and trashing everything while we sit watching America Idol

[midcan5]

A simple question everyone should ask themselves is why it is the republicans are always talking impeachment and in this case suing our democratically elected president? Does losing cause their crazy side to emerge? Or do they not respect the outcomes of democracy? Both probably. Does anyone remember the wasted investigations when Clinton won? It is now procedure rather than sensible politics for republicans. Where are those jobs? Oh, sorry, we are paying for those jobs only they are lawyers wasting more taxpayer monies. Someone should come up with a symbolic ball and then tell the childish republicans they can take it home with them. Would that make the children happy.

[Peter1469]

Separation of power? :shocked:

At least the democrats never threatened Bush and Cheney with impeachment.


A simple question everyone should ask themselves is why it is the republicans are always talking impeachment and in this case suing our democratically elected president? Does losing cause their crazy side to emerge? Or do they not respect the outcomes of democracy? Both probably. Does anyone remember the wasted investigations when Clinton won? It is now procedure rather than sensible politics for republicans. Where are those jobs? Oh, sorry, we are paying for those jobs only they are lawyers wasting more taxpayer monies. Someone should come up with a symbolic ball and then tell the childish republicans they can take it home with them. Would that make the children happy.

[Libhater]

A simple question everyone should ask themselves is why it is the republicans are always talking impeachment and in this case suing our democratically elected president? Does losing cause their crazy side to emerge? Or do they not respect the outcomes of democracy? Both probably. Does anyone remember the wasted investigations when Clinton won? It is now procedure rather than sensible politics for republicans. Where are those jobs? Oh, sorry, we are paying for those jobs only they are lawyers wasting more taxpayer monies. Someone should come up with a symbolic ball and then tell the childish republicans they can take it home with them. Would that make the children happy.

Do they (Republicans) not respect the outcomes of democracy? We do, but when the outcomes of a socialist king-like president decides to abandon any and all of the tenets of the Constitution and lawlessly uses his executive power in bypassing congress to get his way, then yes, we do not respect this form of criminal activity.

[zelmo1234]

A simple question everyone should ask themselves is why it is the republicans are always talking impeachment and in this case suing our democratically elected president? Does losing cause their crazy side to emerge? Or do they not respect the outcomes of democracy? Both probably. Does anyone remember the wasted investigations when Clinton won? It is now procedure rather than sensible politics for republicans. Where are those jobs? Oh, sorry, we are paying for those jobs only they are lawyers wasting more taxpayer monies. Someone should come up with a symbolic ball and then tell the childish republicans they can take it home with them. Would that make the children happy.

It is funny how the partisans forget. They talked about the Impeachment of Bush and for that matter Reagan.

There is really no doubt that President Obama has taken the EO's to new heights in actually writing and rewriting laws with them. He was actually forced to do this because his ACA was such a turd that even his own party will not vote for it, if it were to come before the house or Senate for change.

The lawsuit is not about getting a verdict, but about providing cover to defund the executive branch! Obama is the most divisive president that I can remember. You can't talk down to the people that you want to work with and expect them to be concerned with your issues. So because he will not interact with congress and work on compromise, the people suffer.

[zelmo1234]

Separation of power? :shocked:

At least the democrats never threatened Bush and Cheney with impeachment.

Well least they forget?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/11/kucinich.impeach/

http://www.opencongress.org/wiki/Efforts_to_initiate_the_impeachment_of_President_G eorge_W._Bush

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/07/09/why-impeach-obama-is-different-than-impeach-bush/

And then you have the whining about the Republicans opposing Obama from day one? But they forget Selected not elected?

It is the same partisan bull shit form both sides of the coin, and it is a shame that the people of American have to put up with this bull shit

[Polecat]

The government has gone bad on us and the only step that makes any sense is to boot every last career politician out of government completely. From dog catcher to white house.

[Mainecoons]

I expect the courts to say no standing and remind the House that it has remedies. The power of the purse, and impeachment. The courts likely will not want to get involved.

OK Pete but I thought that one of the remedies is that when two of the branches of government are at an impasse over legalities, the third, Judicial, is charged with interpreting the legislation.

How is this different than the case of the illegal Obama appointments case that they just decided against him?

[Peter1469]

OK Pete but I thought that one of the remedies is that when two of the branches of government are at an impasse over legalities, the third, Judicial, is charged with interpreting the legislation.

How is this different than the case of the illegal Obama appointments case that they just decided against him?

The courts should be a remedy. I am telling you what I think that they will do. Not what they should do.

The case of recess appointments when the Senate is still in session was a slam dunk.

[texan]

And when you wake up Harry Reid will still be leader of the Senate.................NFL tho

[Peter1469]

And when you wake up Harry Reid will still be leader of the Senate.................NFL tho
Until November (or January when the new Congress is sworn in).

[Ransom]

Until November (or January when the new Congress is sworn in).

I pray you're not mistaken. I mean....I too hope to God Reid isn't leading the Senate come Jan of 2015.....but not as confident it will happen as you seem to be. This also concerns me as your record of inaccuracy is long and well established in here. Bt I do hope you're right. Pete.

[sachem]

I didn't realize Chuck Todd is still around.

[Green Arrow]

If everyone would kindly turn their attention to the real point, the bolded portion at the end of the quote...

[Ransom]

Why I believe a Paul or Walker could win in 16, less party loyalty.