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Mainecoons
04-23-2012, 10:46 AM
Everyone but the brain dead liberal partisan hacks who post endless Ted Nugent threads will get this one very well. Notice just how fraudulent the employment data being put out by Obama's corrupt government is.

You can run but you can't hide from these data. Half the college graduates can't find anything other than menial labor, the labor force participation is dropping like a rock, tax collections are falling, food stamps, disability and early retirements on Social Security are skyrocketing and the liberals and neocons still don't get it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-epic-fail-part-one

MMC
04-23-2012, 03:13 PM
Everyone but the brain dead liberal partisan hacks who post endless Ted Nugent threads will get this one very well. Notice just how fraudulent the employment data being put out by Obama's corrupt government is.

You can run but you can't hide from these data. Half the college graduates can't find anything other than menial labor, the labor force participation is dropping like a rock, tax collections are falling, food stamps, disability and early retirements on Social Security are skyrocketing and the liberals and neocons still don't get it.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-epic-fail-part-one

Good find MC.....plus now they have Proved Obama has lied about the Ryan plan and was attempting to re-write History. Until A reporter asked him. But then why did you say you like that Ryan had a plan two years ago. Why hasnt he tried to work with it. Looks Like Obama won't be re-writing this history.

What happened to that South Korean Trade policy that was going to create Jobs? What happened to those companies going overseas to create jobs? What happened those incentives to get them not to do that? What happened to all those pretty promises that he is unable to keep.

MMC
04-23-2012, 04:04 PM
Yes MC just go to Obamas remarks released last week. Which he is taking the hit for.

Alias
04-23-2012, 04:10 PM
All of a sudden there is a war on women, a war on contraception, a war on Blacks, etc, etc.

Anything to deflect from the reality of this failed piece of shit administration.

MMC
04-23-2012, 04:34 PM
All of a sudden there is a war on women, a war on contraception, a war on Blacks, etc, etc.

Anything to deflect from the reality of this failed piece of shit administration.

Dont forget the War on Hunger, Poverty, and the War on Drugs. As well as the War on Obesity and Sugar. The war against gays. Most of all the War against Conservative and Republicans and More importantly the War on the Constituion.

Seems thats all the Demos talk about. Seems they have much in common with the Neo-Cons. Can talk the talk.....but can't Walk the Walk.

Mainecoons
04-23-2012, 04:54 PM
Is it your contention that the Obama administration is using criteria that hasn't been used in the past?

If so, can you be specific?

Nope, its my contention that Obama's government is corrupt. So was Bush's. What is different here is that the number of people who have given up looking for work has really cranked up since Obama took office and it is misleading in the extreme to not count these people as unemployed.

Found this on a blog, explains this pretty well. I actually blame the media who seem to have no limit as to how far they'll go to try and cover for Obama for not telling people the real story about the economy and unemployment.


I saw Representative Hunter (R-CA) on the news this morning, talking about the legislation described below. He wants the Bureau of Labor Statistics to change the way they calculate the unemployment rate, by factoring in individuals who have given up looking for work.
What do you guys think? By the way, he addressed the notion that this is just a way to make things look worse for President Obama. He said as a member of Congress, he would be affected by a higher unemployment rate as well.
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March 7, 2012 (Washington, D.C.) —In preparation for the release of new unemployment figures this month, Representative Duncan Hunter, joined by a group of House lawmakers, introduced the Real Unemployment Calculation Act on March 1.
The legislation requires the Bureau of Labor Statistics to factor, as the primary measurement of unemployment by the federal government, individuals who give up looking for work—currently reflected in the U-5 calculation.
Under the latest U-3 calculation, which is considered the primary measurement of unemployment, the national rate is 8.3 percent. When factoring those who have given up looking for work, the unemployment rate jumps to 9.9 percent, providing a much clearer representation of unemployment nationwide. In California, the U-3 rate is 11.6 percent, while the U-5 rate is 13.4 percent.
“In order to effectively address the economic challenges we face, and confront the national unemployment situation, we must know the full extent of the problem,” said Representative Duncan Hunter. “As some pundits and politicians cite a near 8 percent unemployment rate, they are purposely avoiding a subset of Americans who are not counted. The Bureau of Labor Statistics does in fact provide alternative measurements of unemployment, but they are consistently overshadowed by the U-3 rate, which ignores a large group of people. We need to be realistic and focus our attention on the figure that provides the most accurate representation of national unemployment—not the figure that under-represents the challenge we face.”
More on the national unemployment rate is available here.

Chris
04-23-2012, 06:01 PM
The fact that the previous admin. ran the economy off the cliff, and then handed the keys to Obama, is the reason that people giving up has 'cranked up'.

Ignoring that is expedient, when trying to make your point.

Every admin. uses the same criteria for UI numbers.

But he didn't ignore that, dagny, he addressed it squarely.

"Every admin. uses the same criteria for UI numbers."

So to you two wrongs make a right? I don't know how many liberals I've heard that from.

MMC
04-23-2012, 06:12 PM
Damn Chris quit being right most of the time. But you are right.....still as you can see there is some tangent that they feel is somehow connected to the issue. Which I guess helps them to validate some unseen point. :studying:

Chris
04-23-2012, 06:20 PM
Damn Chris quit being right most of the time. But you are right.....still as you can see there is some tangent that they feel is somehow connected to the issue. Which I guess helps them to validate some unseen point. :studying:

By ignoring what people say and just repeating.

MMC
04-23-2012, 06:34 PM
By ignoring what people say and just repeating.


Yep.....deny deny deny! Lets -re-write history. Since none of the facts lead up to one another. Oh well.....there is always Viewers on Demand. :grin:

Mainecoons
04-23-2012, 07:02 PM
The fact that the previous admin. ran the economy off the cliff, and then handed the keys to Obama, is the reason that people giving up has 'cranked up'.

Ignoring that is expedient, when trying to make your point.

Every admin. uses the same criteria for UI numbers.

Ah, if it was only that simple. Except that the changes to Fannie/Freddie were made under Clinton. And the financial deregulation that spawned derivatives was made under Reagan, Bush and Clinton. The general failure to combat financial fraud started with the S&L meltdown, went on to the dot com fraud under Clinton and culminated in the derivatives scam under Bush.

You see, Dagny, this is what happens when you allow yourself to be propagandized to the point that you actually think that either of these political parties is more virtuous than the other. They aren't. It is all government by political contributions and insiders. When you understand this, you will have achieved political maturity.