Forty Years Ago

[Matty]

Nixon resigned! August 8, 1974.

[sachem]

Nixon resigned! August 8, 1974.I celebrate it on August 9th. The day he left office. Nixon's resignation took effect at noon on the 9th of August, 1974.

[sachem]

It was a kinda strange rambling speech he gave that morning before leaving. Kinda made you feel sorry for him.

[PolWatch]

Nixon created such a negative view of the presidency, it is still felt. His actions produced the special prosecutor laws and the tendency to scream IMPEACH when a president blinks.

[texan]

Are these posts to mostly soften and excuse Obama's abuse of the IRS? Cause it seems like it.

[del]

Are these posts to mostly soften and excuse Obama's abuse of the IRS? Cause it seems like it.

only to the terminally slow

[del]

Nixon's spirit will be with us for the rest of our lives -- whether you're me or Bill Clinton or you or Kurt Cobain or Bishop Tutu or Keith Richards or Amy Fisher or Boris Yeltsin's daughter or your fiancee's 16-year-old beer-drunk brother with his braided goatee and his whole life like a thundercloud out in front of him. This is not a generational thing. You don't even have to know who Richard Nixon was to be a victim of his ugly, Nazi spirit.

He has poisoned our water forever. Nixon will be remembered as a classic case of a smart man shitting in his own nest. But he also shit in our nests, and that was the crime that history will burn on his memory like a brand. By disgracing and degrading the Presidency of the United States, by fleeing the White House like a diseased cur, Richard Nixon broke the heart of the American Dream.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/07/he-was-a-crook/308699/3/

[sachem]

Are these posts to mostly soften and excuse Obama's abuse of the IRS? Cause it seems like it.
Really? I'd say you have a problem then.

[PolWatch]

Really? I'd say you have a problem then.

40 years ago we knew the excuse would be needed today...smart...ain't we?

[del]

40 years ago we knew the excuse would be needed today...smart...ain't we?

we must be

we owned gremlins

[PolWatch]

mine was just a 6 cyl...didn't do much screaming...but it putt-putt-putted purty good

[del]

mine was just a 6 cyl...didn't do much screaming...but it putt-putt-putted purty good

i'd talk more about my gremlin, but i don't want to derail the thread and its rabid defense of obama.

that matalese is a tricksy one...

[Matty]

Nixon created such a negative view of the presidency, it is still felt. His actions produced the special prosecutor laws and the tendency to scream IMPEACH when a president blinks.
Clinton didn't do much to create a positive either.

[Peter1469]

Nixon should have burned those tapes....

[PolWatch]

I wonder if they still tape in the Oval Office? I suspect they don't.

[PolWatch]

Clinton didn't do much to create a positive either.

yeap...but he lied about something that (I believe) was no one's business except his & Hillary's. I don't think I know many (if any) men who wouldn't lie if caught cheating on their wives. Weak? yeap. Human? yeap. Nixon wasn't cheating on Pat.

[Matty]

yeap...but he lied about something that (I believe) was no one's business except his & Hillary's. I don't think I know many (if any) men who wouldn't lie if caught cheating on their wives. Weak? yeap. Human? yeap. Nixon wasn't cheating on Pat.


He lied under oath to a federal grand jury. Did he not? And yes, if the horney old bastard has to have sex do it somewhere other than the Oval Office. Not cool. And don't go on live TV, shake your boney old finger at the American people and declare "I did not have sex with that woman." When he did that he made it everybody's business.

[PolWatch]

I haven't denied what he did. His behavior was revealed after an 80 million dollar investigation of Whitewater financial questions. The only charges made were the lie about sexual behavior. Yeap, really worth the investment...wasn't it?

[sachem]

Nixon should have burned those tapes....Incredibly stupid not to. He had no qualms about other, less than nice, things he did.

[del]

Nixon should have burned those tapes....

hubris

[Mini Me]

He lied under oath to a federal grand jury. Did he not? And yes, if the horney old bastard has to have sex do it somewhere other than the Oval Office. Not cool. And don't go on live TV, shake your boney old finger at the American people and declare "I did not have sex with that woman." When he did that he made it everybody's business.

WE need more Rethuglican WITCH HUNTS!

Fresh, bloody meat thrown into the arena on a daily basis feeds the ravenous jackals. The crowd cheers wildly!
The Romans did this right! Feed the liberals to the lions, public slut shaming of wayward wenches, and endless sex scandals
titillate the masses, and amuse the aristocracy!

[Mainecoons]

Polwatch, you do know Clinton was convicted of perjury in a Federal Court, yes?

Nixon was a paranoid nut and a piker compared to Obama. Unfortunately for him, he was a white Republican paranoid nut so he got tossed.

Obama is an "affirmative action" POTUS, so the rules that were applied to Nixon don't apply to him.

[PolWatch]

nope...the charge was contempt of court...

In April 1999, about two months after being acquitted by the Senate, Clinton was cited by Federal District Judge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_District_Judge) Susan Webber Wright (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Webber_Wright) for civil contempt of court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court) for his "willful failure" to obey her repeated orders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_order) to testify truthfully in the Paula Jones sexual harassment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment) lawsuit. For this citation, Clinton was assessed a $90,000 fine, and the matter was referred to the Arkansas Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_Supreme_Court) to see if disciplinary action would be appropriate.[25

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-cnn.com-25)Bill Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton), the 42nd President of the United States, was impeached (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States) by the House of Representatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives) on two charges, one of perjury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury) and one of obstruction of justice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstruction_of_justice), on December 19, 1998. Two other impeachment articles, a second perjury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury) charge and a charge of abuse of power (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuse_of_power), failed in the House. He was acquitted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquittal) of both charges by the Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate) on February 12, 1999.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-1)

[donttread]

Nixon resigned! August 8, 1974.

Perhaps the last truly competent and effective act taken by the US government. Think about it.

[Peter1469]

The judge could also have charged Clinton with criminal contempt of court....
nope...the charge was contempt of court...

In April 1999, about two months after being acquitted by the Senate, Clinton was cited by Federal District Judge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_District_Judge) Susan Webber Wright (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Webber_Wright) for civil contempt of court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court) for his "willful failure" to obey her repeated orders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_order) to testify truthfully in the Paula Jones sexual harassment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment) lawsuit. For this citation, Clinton was assessed a $90,000 fine, and the matter was referred to the Arkansas Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_Supreme_Court) to see if disciplinary action would be appropriate.[25

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-cnn.com-25)Bill Clinton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton), the 42nd President of the United States, was impeached (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States) by the House of Representatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives) on two charges, one of perjury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury) and one of obstruction of justice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstruction_of_justice), on December 19, 1998. Two other impeachment articles, a second perjury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury) charge and a charge of abuse of power (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuse_of_power), failed in the House. He was acquitted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquittal) of both charges by the Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate) on February 12, 1999.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-1)

[PolWatch]

yeap...but they didn't. I'm not saying he didn't lie or deserve to be charged. I just don't think the level (?) of his crime is the same as what Nixon did. Clinton's lie was personal in nature, Nixon's was political. I think the political crimes reflect on the presidency worse than the personal crimes....if I had my druthers, we would have neither to discuss...but, if frogs had wings....

[del]

Polwatch, you do know Clinton was convicted of perjury in a Federal Court, yes?

Nixon was a paranoid nut and a piker compared to Obama. Unfortunately for him, he was a white Republican paranoid nut so he got tossed.

Obama is an "affirmative action" POTUS, so the rules that were applied to Nixon don't apply to him.

sober up.

[Redrose]

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/07/he-was-a-crook/308699/3/

Nixon was wrong, I voted for Nixon, and it hurt me to see his fall from grace. I say the Kennedy brothers were heading in the same direction a decade earlier, but the assassination prevented it. They were on a power high, especially Bobby. Power does that to some people, just look at BHO, his abuses are 100x worse than Nixon's.

[PolWatch]

Nixon was wrong, I voted for Nixon, and it hurt me to see his fall from grace. I say the Kennedy brothers were heading in the same direction a decade earlier, but the assassination prevented it. They were on a power high, especially Bobby. Power does that to some people, just look at BHO, his abuses are 100x worse than Nixon's.

I voted for Nixon also. That was the last time I had complete faith in a politician. Now, I expect 'em to lie & I ain't disappointed too many times...

[Blackrook]

Nixon got what he deserved, but Clinton didn't and Obama won't. The difference is, Republicans threw Nixon under the bus after it was proven he was a crook. Democrats don't do that. If one of their own is revealed to be a crook, they circle the wagons around him and defend him to the death. And that's because they're all crooks.

[del]

:rolleyes: