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Bob
08-14-2014, 05:29 PM
Robert-- And Green Arrow and Redrose and everybody

I wanted to send you a quick message to personally invite you to join thousands of freedom-loving conservatives at the Defending the American Dream Summit (http://click.myprosperitymail.com/?qs=ed1242d1ad513433153d68617d04caaf1f2d842fba5169 26a7f7ab6484bb25e7812d6e10b9964ec3) at the Omni Hotel in Dallas, Texas this Labor Day weekend on Friday, August 29 and Saturday, August 30.

I'm looking forward to the opportunity to join you for a lively discussion about the best ways to put an end to harmful, big government policies; to restore jobs, growth, and opportunity; and to preserve the American Dream for future generations.

You don't want to miss the Summit, so register right now! (http://click.myprosperitymail.com/?qs=ed1242d1ad513433211f9eda0318c5d2f1447f786276db c5667f287b55028711f6ab7170b489d1df)

As you know, many career politicians in Washington act on what's best for them politically, rather than what's best for the American people. Together, we're fighting to change that and make DC listen to the American people. But your help is critical to making that happen.

More than ever, America needs men and women who are ready to step up and fight for what matters -- for the principles that make our country great.

At this year's Summit, you'll learn from and connect with fellow grassroots activists who are doing their part to defend the country from policies that are putting the American Dream at risk. I hope you'll take their suggestions and stories to heart, and continue to fight alongside us to defend liberty.

We've seen the power of grassroots activism firsthand in Texas. It's amazing what can be accomplished when passionate people come together to fight for a cause in which they truly believe.

Freedom is a winning idea, and if we all work together, we will be victorious in the battle for liberty and against big government.

Please join us at the Summit this Labor Day weekend to learn how to be an even more effective grassroots activist. One person can make a huge impact in the fight for freedom. Will that person be you, Robert?

Get your ticket today for Americans for Prosperity's 2014 Defending the American Dream Summit. (http://click.myprosperitymail.com/?qs=ed1242d1ad513433145926ac3eead0dad5c560b1042ea6 6452622cfd38e18008f080df83ee6ddd50)


WHAT:
Americans for Prosperity's 2014 Defending the American Dream Summit



WHERE:

The Omni Hotel in Dallas, Texas




WHO:

I'll be joined by strong free-market champions like Gov. Rick Perry, Gov. Mike Pence, Dr. Ben Carson, entrepreneur Carly Fiorina, and many others who are committed to preserving the American Dream for future generations




WHEN:

Labor Day weekend -- Friday, August 29 and Saturday, August 30




HOW:

Register for the Summit here! (http://click.myprosperitymail.com/?qs=ed1242d1ad513433211f9eda0318c5d2f1447f786276db c5667f287b55028711f6ab7170b489d1df)

I know you'll leave the Defending the American Dream Summit fired up about the fight for liberty, and ready to lead the change against big government in your community.

See you in Dallas,

https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Pr7ieN3S_PIC2zpnkHaW3EvopSC6n2GeaSnIwAvRRV_VrExEsA KgsHzXvRmHpEcTP8s0_N619YTEoZBF9zgMO_cm6Ask9OPBRKD2 dfSjvcIQ57zwYj0xrMrlDJoZs0PMCSb9NwnDWQ=s0-d-e1-ft#http://image.myprosperitymail.com/lib/fea412727565067d75/m/2/cruz-signature-1.png

Green Arrow
08-14-2014, 05:43 PM
I appreciate the invite, but I'll have to pass. I do not have the money or time right now to take a trip to Texas.

Libhater
08-14-2014, 05:49 PM
I appreciate the invite, but I'll have to pass. I do not have the money or time right now to take a trip to Texas.

Besides, the invitation mentioned the word 'grassroots' a couple of times, and we know how you have a problem understanding that word when applied to the Tea Party Movement. This gathering of Conservatives is no different in that they seek to develop a grassroots Movement to kill big government and to get people working again.

del
08-14-2014, 06:06 PM
nothing says grassroots like a $159 ticket price. (order quickly, they're gonna go up by $50)

momsapplepie
08-14-2014, 06:10 PM
nothing says grassroots like a $159 ticket price. (order quickly, they're gonna go up by $50)

Hey that's cheaper than Obama's soirees at $32,000. a plate!

del
08-14-2014, 06:12 PM
Hey that's cheaper than Obama's soirees at $32,000. a plate!

hey, that's awesome!

:rofl:

whoever said a fool and his money are soon parted had the tailgunner ted groupies pegged.

bring a friend

Cigar
08-14-2014, 06:41 PM
Can't wait for the YouTube clips :laugh:

Captain Obvious
08-14-2014, 06:42 PM
Hey del - save me a seat near the bar.

:biglaugh:

Green Arrow
08-14-2014, 06:42 PM
Besides, the invitation mentioned the word 'grassroots' a couple of times, and we know how you have a problem understanding that word when applied to the Tea Party Movement. This gathering of Conservatives is no different in that they seek to develop a grassroots Movement to kill big government and to get people working again.

Take your Viagra and go find another one of your underage sex slaves.

del
08-14-2014, 06:43 PM
Hey @del (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=770) - save me a seat near the bar.

:biglaugh:

first round is on you

Bob
08-14-2014, 07:08 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by del http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=724494#post724494)
nothing says grassroots like a $159 ticket price. (order quickly, they're gonna go up by $50)


Hey that's cheaper than Obama's soirees at $32,000. a plate!

You are lightning on your feet. Thanks. I wish I had said that.

And you get more speakers too than just the narcissist in chief.

Bob
08-14-2014, 07:14 PM
hey, that's awesome!

:rofl:

whoever said a fool and his money are soon parted had the tailgunner ted groupies pegged.

bring a friend

Those suckers who pay $32,000 per plate to worship Obama are part of a cult. del

del
08-14-2014, 07:14 PM
Those suckers who pay $32,000 per plate to worship Obama are part of a cult. @del (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=770)

ted would charge it if he thought he could get it, gomer

Redrose
08-14-2014, 07:28 PM
Robert-- And @Green Arrow (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=868) and @Redrose (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1123) and everybody

I wanted to send you a quick message to personally invite you to join thousands of freedom-loving conservatives at the Defending the American Dream Summit (http://click.myprosperitymail.com/?qs=ed1242d1ad513433153d68617d04caaf1f2d842fba5169 26a7f7ab6484bb25e7812d6e10b9964ec3) at the Omni Hotel in Dallas, Texas this Labor Day weekend on Friday, August 29 and Saturday, August 30.

I'm looking forward to the opportunity to join you for a lively discussion about the best ways to put an end to harmful, big government policies; to restore jobs, growth, and opportunity; and to preserve the American Dream for future generations.

You don't want to miss the Summit, so register right now! (http://click.myprosperitymail.com/?qs=ed1242d1ad513433211f9eda0318c5d2f1447f786276db c5667f287b55028711f6ab7170b489d1df)

As you know, many career politicians in Washington act on what's best for them politically, rather than what's best for the American people. Together, we're fighting to change that and make DC listen to the American people. But your help is critical to making that happen.

More than ever, America needs men and women who are ready to step up and fight for what matters -- for the principles that make our country great.

At this year's Summit, you'll learn from and connect with fellow grassroots activists who are doing their part to defend the country from policies that are putting the American Dream at risk. I hope you'll take their suggestions and stories to heart, and continue to fight alongside us to defend liberty.

We've seen the power of grassroots activism firsthand in Texas. It's amazing what can be accomplished when passionate people come together to fight for a cause in which they truly believe.

Freedom is a winning idea, and if we all work together, we will be victorious in the battle for liberty and against big government.

Please join us at the Summit this Labor Day weekend to learn how to be an even more effective grassroots activist. One person can make a huge impact in the fight for freedom. Will that person be you, Robert?

Get your ticket today for Americans for Prosperity's 2014 Defending the American Dream Summit. (http://click.myprosperitymail.com/?qs=ed1242d1ad513433145926ac3eead0dad5c560b1042ea6 6452622cfd38e18008f080df83ee6ddd50)


WHAT:
Americans for Prosperity's 2014 Defending the American Dream Summit



WHERE:

The Omni Hotel in Dallas, Texas




WHO:

I'll be joined by strong free-market champions like Gov. Rick Perry, Gov. Mike Pence, Dr. Ben Carson, entrepreneur Carly Fiorina, and many others who are committed to preserving the American Dream for future generations




WHEN:

Labor Day weekend -- Friday, August 29 and Saturday, August 30




HOW:

Register for the Summit here! (http://click.myprosperitymail.com/?qs=ed1242d1ad513433211f9eda0318c5d2f1447f786276db c5667f287b55028711f6ab7170b489d1df)

I know you'll leave the Defending the American Dream Summit fired up about the fight for liberty, and ready to lead the change against big government in your community.

See you in Dallas,

https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Pr7ieN3S_PIC2zpnkHaW3EvopSC6n2GeaSnIwAvRRV_VrExEsA KgsHzXvRmHpEcTP8s0_N619YTEoZBF9zgMO_cm6Ask9OPBRKD2 dfSjvcIQ57zwYj0xrMrlDJoZs0PMCSb9NwnDWQ=s0-d-e1-ft#http://image.myprosperitymail.com/lib/fea412727565067d75/m/2/cruz-signature-1.png

Thank you for the invitation, but we will have to pass. My husband's vacation time is done for this year. I can't wait for him to retire fully. Thanks again.

Green Arrow
08-14-2014, 08:13 PM
Those suckers who pay $32,000 per plate to worship Obama are part of a cult. @del (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=770)

You mean, like your own cult of Republicanism?

texan
08-14-2014, 11:27 PM
Thats a lot of doe for something like this, but I am sure people will pay it.

Bob
08-15-2014, 12:19 AM
You mean, like your own cult of Republicanism?

You certainly make a living being a wise ass.

But you assume you are a lot smarter than I am. That is your achilles heel. You overestimate your own ability.

My so called cult goes like this as you have been told over and over. Better memory tricks can help your memory.

We have two cults elected to presidents.

Cult A is the Democrats.

Cult B is the Republicans.

I know children indulge in wishful thinking but i did that many years ago.

I wished as a Democrat that republicans quit being for the rich. I was taught that lie.

I was near voting for Ross Perot as a third party so I walked your path decades ago.

I tried your ideas and they failed.

Why repeat them again?

Bob
08-15-2014, 12:20 AM
Thank you for the invitation, but we will have to pass. My husband's vacation time is done for this year. I can't wait for him to retire fully. Thanks again.

Thanks Redrose

Green Arrow
08-15-2014, 12:30 AM
You certainly make a living being a wise ass.

It's a hard knock life, but the pay is good.


But you assume you are a lot smarter than I am. That is your achilles heel. You overestimate your own ability.

I certainly have in the past, but with you, I'm fairly confident.


My so called cult goes like this as you have been told over and over. Better memory tricks can help your memory.

We have two cults elected to presidents.

Cult A is the Democrats.

Cult B is the Republicans.

I know children indulge in wishful thinking but i did that many years ago.

I wished as a Democrat that republicans quit being for the rich. I was taught that lie.

I was near voting for Ross Perot as a third party so I walked your path decades ago.

I tried your ideas and they failed.

Why repeat them again?

First, we have to establish that it even was a mistake. Voting third party is never a mistake unless you don't believe in the candidates you vote for, however.

Peter1469
08-15-2014, 05:06 AM
I agree. The establishment parties have not produced anyone worth voting for in over a decade. I fail to understand why people are so wedded to the two party system. And we really need a none of the above selection on all ballots.

1751_Texan
08-15-2014, 05:14 AM
Hey that's cheaper than Obama's soirees at $32,000. a plate!

I think you are conflating a grass-roots camp meeting with a high powered fundraiser.

At one they serve BBQ and ice tea; the other serves foie gras and champagne.

del
08-15-2014, 09:51 AM
You certainly make a living being a wise ass.

But you assume you are a lot smarter than I am. That is your achilles heel. You overestimate your own ability.

My so called cult goes like this as you have been told over and over. Better memory tricks can help your memory.

We have two cults elected to presidents.

Cult A is the Democrats.

Cult B is the Republicans.

I know children indulge in wishful thinking but i did that many years ago.

I wished as a Democrat that republicans quit being for the rich. I was taught that lie.

I was near voting for Ross Perot as a third party so I walked your path decades ago.

I tried your ideas and they failed.

Why repeat them again?

i assume my ficus is a lot smarter than you, bobby.

Bob
08-15-2014, 11:40 AM
i assume my ficus is a lot smarter than you, bobby.

Well, quite the wise ass eh? Don't forget, ASS is in the word assume.

Bob
08-15-2014, 11:43 AM
I agree. The establishment parties have not produced anyone worth voting for in over a decade. I fail to understand why people are so wedded to the two party system. And we really need a none of the above selection on all ballots.

Our best ever president served during my lifetime. I truly appreciate Ronald Reagan much more today than when he served.

As to third parties, we can't name any that has mounted a sucessful run. Besides, we have no idea if they are corrupt as some say about the two parties. My guess is they lack good management skills.

But to cure this. I say this. Bring forth our Governors and let's pick from a republican governor. Don't try to tell me that republican stands for crook. We have seen some but most are not. Peter1469

Bob
08-15-2014, 11:47 AM
I certainly have in the past, but with you, I'm fairly confident.
First, we have to establish that it even was a mistake. Voting third party is never a mistake unless you don't believe in the candidates you vote for, however.

Kid, you are too puffed up to be much good on the forum. You are more the wise clown than the contributor.

You will never admit to being wrong about 3rd party.

And as a result, you will lose all elections. Not one here and there, but all of them.

Track the progress of your party. It has a poor track record.

All i tried to do for you is to get you to see facts and act wiser next time.

Libhater
08-15-2014, 11:54 AM
Kid, you are too puffed up to be much good on the forum. You are more the wise clown than the contributor.

You will never admit to being wrong about 3rd party.

And as a result, you will lose all elections. Not one here and there, but all of them.

Track the progress of your party. It has a poor track record.

All i tried to do for you is to get you to see facts and act wiser next time.

Yeah, these guys think its cute to call the two party system.....donkephants and the like, but they don't seem to realize that voting for a useless no-winning 3rd party candidate is a winning ticket for the progressive (hilabeast) candidate. I see these guys committing mutiny once the going gets a bit tough, by jumping into the shark infested waters of permanent despair. I want to see some backbone from these guys, but all we're getting is apathetic doom and gloom diatribes, the likes of which isn't going to help the American Capitalistic cause one iota.

Dark Mistress
08-15-2014, 12:05 PM
Kid, you are too puffed up to be much good on the forum. You are more the wise clown than the contributor.

You will never admit to being wrong about 3rd party.

And as a result, you will lose all elections. Not one here and there, but all of them.

Track the progress of your party. It has a poor track record.

All i tried to do for you is to get you to see facts and act wiser next time.

Just because the "right" party doesn't win doesn't mean they are evil. In the last days it was foretold the people would turn away from good and turn to evil.

Standing up for what is right is still right even when you stand alone. Now, I do believe when it comes to politics there is not necessarily a right vs. wrong but a differing of opinions. Different views of what is best for a country.

So if the Republican party diminishes or never gets re-elected that party is no longer a worthwhile party to vote for? I would imagine your response would be that that will never happen. I daresay you are right, but what if???

It may be rational to you, but I just do not see it that way. Bob

The two-party system is brain washed into children through schooling. We have right wing media and left wing media. People don't seek out other options because that is what is available. It doesn't help that a good portion of today's society is ignorant and uninformed. Even older individuals cling to the "old ways." In many discussions with my father I hear the same ole... "well it's not as bad as the democrat party" argument. What do people believe in anymore? Do they believe what the media feeds them or do they have the ability to become educated and informed individuals on their own through the many other resources available to us?

In many way Christianity and orgranized religion is growing out of style and unpopular, but I cling to it with a fierceness that cannot be shaken.

Bob
08-15-2014, 12:13 PM
Yeah, these guys think its cute to call the two party system.....donkephants and the like, but they don't seem to realize that voting for a useless no-winning 3rd party candidate is a winning ticket for the progressive (hilabeast) candidate. I see these guys committing mutiny once the going gets a bit tough, by jumping into the shark infested waters of permanent despair. I want to see some backbone from these guys, but all we're getting is apathetic doom and gloom diatribes, the likes of which isn't going to help the American Capitalistic cause one iota.

Oh but he votes based on principle he brays.

Sure, the principle of first backing republicans, wait no, then democrats, and now somebody else.

He is forming principles. But he lacks them. I think when all of us were his age, we were just the same.

They are not acting smart. I and you realize you fix a problem from the inside. I thank the tea party for working hard to repair problems with the republicans. Nobody will be pleased all the time. These guys have to collect people from a wide range of needs and wants and can't simply act like a third party does.

I say somewhat often if it were left up to me, you and I and the public would use the system used during the era of Washington and Jefferson and Madison of having next to professionals selecting presidents.

It is not that i feel unable to figure them out, but most people don't have the know-how nor the facts to properly vet all candidates. They assume some 3rd party guy will be better. They to a man lack experience save for this former Gov of NM who in my view is still a republican, Chris Johnson i believe.

Voters must put in a lot of hard work and have plenty of spare time to vet presidents. We are handed a job that half the public does not engage in. And we find some person voted in who has 25 percent of the public behind him. Then they wonder where all the bad noise came from. It comes because half the public is tired of this nonsense.

To me, voting 3rd party is as good as not voting. Some of the times, it has helped Democrats. If they don't know that, they are not bright at all.

Peter1469
08-15-2014, 12:16 PM
Children are caught up in the two party system hysteria.

Dark Mistress
08-15-2014, 12:20 PM
Children are caught up in the two party system hysteria.

So are the adults.

Green Arrow
08-15-2014, 02:54 PM
Oh but he votes based on principle he brays.

Sure, the principle of first backing republicans, wait no, then democrats, and now somebody else.

He is forming principles. But he lacks them. I think when all of us were his age, we were just the same.

They are not acting smart. I and you realize you fix a problem from the inside. I thank the tea party for working hard to repair problems with the republicans. Nobody will be pleased all the time. These guys have to collect people from a wide range of needs and wants and can't simply act like a third party does.

I say somewhat often if it were left up to me, you and I and the public would use the system used during the era of Washington and Jefferson and Madison of having next to professionals selecting presidents.

It is not that i feel unable to figure them out, but most people don't have the know-how nor the facts to properly vet all candidates. They assume some 3rd party guy will be better. They to a man lack experience save for this former Gov of NM who in my view is still a republican, Chris Johnson i believe.

Voters must put in a lot of hard work and have plenty of spare time to vet presidents. We are handed a job that half the public does not engage in. And we find some person voted in who has 25 percent of the public behind him. Then they wonder where all the bad noise came from. It comes because half the public is tired of this nonsense.

To me, voting 3rd party is as good as not voting. Some of the times, it has helped Democrats. If they don't know that, they are not bright at all.

Because I respect my friends on the mod team, I will not respond to this post the way I originally wanted to.

That said...you are hopelessly wrong. Your vote for President means absolutely nothing, because if the delegates on the electoral college don't like who the popular vote picked, they'll pick someone else. An enterprising candidate could win the electoral college and thus the presidency with only 20% of the popular vote.

Peter1469
08-15-2014, 03:22 PM
More cries for the establishment...?, vote 3rd party.

The Sage of Main Street
08-15-2014, 03:57 PM
Hey @del (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=770) - save me a seat near the bar.

:biglaugh: Hope you like Rom & Koch. That's all they're serving at the bar.