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Peter1469
09-12-2014, 10:43 PM
Women abandon the O (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-losing-the-confidence-of-key-parts-of-the-coalition-that-elected-him/2014/09/11/18a1c2da-391b-11e4-bdfb-de4104544a37_story.html)

Not a surprise. In the modern media age, people vote based on optics. Thinking and rational thought are not part of the process for too many.


Now, the 36-year-old mother of three young children in Valencia, Calif., is among the majority of Americans who have lost confidence in Obama’s leadership and the job he is doing as president.


“He’s been faced with a lot of challenges, and he’s lost his way,” Cole said in an interview. She worries that Obama lacks the resolve needed at a time when things at home and abroad are looking scarier.


On the other side of the country, Karlene Richardson, 44, once counted herself a “very strong supporter” of the president. But now she feels much the same as Cole does.


“Honestly, I just feel that what I bought into is not what I’m getting,” said Richardson, an author and motivational speaker who teaches health-care administration at a community college in Queens. “I’m starting to wonder whether the world takes us seriously.”

Blackrook
09-12-2014, 10:50 PM
Amazing. I've known since 2008 that Obama was an empty suit, but these people are just realizing it.

del
09-12-2014, 10:51 PM
Amazing. I've known since 2008 that Obama was an empty suit, but these people are just realizing it.

what took you so long?

Redrose
09-12-2014, 11:02 PM
I figured him out in '06 when his name first surfaced as a potential candidate. I wrote him off as a lightweight, recognizing there was nothing there to be concerned with. I didn't suspect he had such evil big money behind him.

He didn't win on substance, merit or experience. He won because of the corrupt manipulation of the low information voter and hero starved Blacks.

Peter1469
09-12-2014, 11:07 PM
The Black vote isn't relevant. Whites elected O.

sachem
09-12-2014, 11:07 PM
Oh. That O. Never mind.

Peter1469
09-12-2014, 11:09 PM
Got ya!

Redrose
09-12-2014, 11:18 PM
The Black vote isn't relevant. Whites elected O.

That is true, and included in my low information voter reference. My White mother, a lifelong Republican, voted for O because he looked so good in his suits. She knew zero about him and refused to hear anything. My White in-laws, lifelong Democrats, voted for him solely because he had a "D" after his name. They too knew absolutely nothing of his politics, but voted blindly for the "D".

Ignorance, apathy and racism elected him. Blacks alone could not have elected him, stupid White folks made it possible.

Now we're all suffering for their stupidity.

sachem
09-12-2014, 11:31 PM
Got ya!:o

Green Arrow
09-13-2014, 12:20 AM
Oh. That O. Never mind.

Yeah, that was my first thought. I thought it was either that or some fringe feminist group was like, "Take the 'o' out of 'woman!'"

momsapplepie
09-13-2014, 01:10 AM
Dang! I tough it was the oprah network that women were deserting! No real woman is going to give up the "oh!"

sachem
09-13-2014, 01:34 AM
Yeah, that was my first thought. I thought it was either that or some fringe feminist group was like, "Take the 'o' out of 'woman!'"
I was thinking how in the hell can you stop it? And why the hell would anyone want to.

midcan5
09-13-2014, 06:18 AM
Women would never give up orgasm, oh that's not the O meant. OT, most people like simple answers, simple solutions, so the fact the world is not simple bothers them and they then project their sentiments on those presumably in charge. History is full of examples. Consider the popularity of Ronald Reagan as an example. Reagan accomplished little and yet he is praised because of the simple cliches he uttered as truths. He was the perfect president as an actor can deliver substanceless homilies with great passion. I will give Reagan credit as he raised taxes constantly and helped social security remain solvent. Good things that are missing from the mythical president he has become in the minds of many.

"The aide [purported to be Karl Rove] said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."" Ron Suskind http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html

Mac-7
09-13-2014, 06:24 AM
Women would never give up orgasm, oh that's not the O meant. OT, most people like simple answers, simple solutions, so the fact the world is not simple bothers them and they then project their sentiments on those presumably in charge. History is full of examples. Consider the popularity of Ronald Reagan as an example. Reagan accomplished little and yet he is praised because of the simple cliches he uttered as truths. He was the perfect president as an actor can deliver substanceless homilies with great passion. I will give Reagan credit as he raised taxes constantly and helped social security remain solvent. Good things that are missing from the mythical president he has become in the minds of many.

"The aide [purported to be Karl Rove] said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."" Ron Suskind http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html

Reagan accomplished much.

his economic policies gave us 20 years of growth and prosperity and his foreign policy brought down the Soviet Union.

midcan5
09-13-2014, 06:34 AM
Reagan accomplished much.

his economic policies gave us 20 years of growth and prosperity and his foreign policy brought down the Soviet Union.

Maybe you missed it, 'it's the economy stupid,' Bush Sr lost because voodoo economics didn't work. Still doesn't work as Bush Jr proved all too well.

"....there's a growing realization that the starting point for many of the catastrophes confronting the United States today can be traced to Reagan's presidency. There's also a grudging reassessment that the "failed"- presidents of the 1970s--Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter--may deserve more credit for trying to grapple with the problems that now beset the country." http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ronald-Reagan-Worst-Presi-by-Robert-Parry-090605-584.html


reagan v clinton: http://zzpat.tripod.com/graphs.htm


http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/20090213_allen_barra_on_the_myth_of_ronald_reagan/
http://www.truth-out.org/a-rich-fantasy-life67572
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/opinion/01krugman.html

Mac-7
09-13-2014, 06:43 AM
Maybe you missed it, 'it's the economy stupid,' Bush Sr lost because voodoo economics didn't work. Still doesn't work as Bush Jr proved all too well.

"....there's a growing realization that the starting point for many of the catastrophes confronting the United States today can be traced to Reagan's presidency. There's also a grudging reassessment that the "failed"- presidents of the 1970s--Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter--may deserve more credit for trying to grapple with the problems that now beset the country." http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ronald-Reagan-Worst-Presi-by-Robert-Parry-090605-584.html


reagan v clinton: http://zzpat.tripod.com/graphs.htm


http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/20090213_allen_barra_on_the_myth_of_ronald_reagan/
http://www.truth-out.org/a-rich-fantasy-life67572
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/opinion/01krugman.html



Reagan economics triumphed over bush economic policy twice.

First when Reagan defeated Bush in 1980 and became president.

That was when bush sneered at Reagan and his "voodoo economics."

reagan snatched victory from the jaws of defeat and built a robust economy in spite of the critics.

Following Reagan, the economy continued to grow under bush41 and Bill Clinton in spite of their less imaginative policies.

Captain Obvious
09-13-2014, 07:00 AM
Oh. That O. Never mind.

Yeah, it caught my eye on the main page too.

Here's a telling remark, I point this out to my wife every Friday evening as we're driving across a couple states getting home for the weekend. I listen to NPR's late shows, they're all progressive squared, socialist/communist pinko shows. Basically Democracy Now and Alternative Radio.

Democracy Now is striking in the sense that they are unashamed at their one-sided, zero unobjective approach to news reporting. It's just "republicans suck, America sucks, unions are hero's, etc." stories one after the other, but the striking thing is that the O'bama is a big part of their negative reporting. They really despise this guy, yesterday some liberal tart fresh-out-of-law-school lawyer who was in some occupy something-or-another movement was railing on (childishly too) about the pending ISIS campaign.

I listen to this stuff because it's all I get on my terrestrial radio up in the boonies but I also listen to it for a chuckle.

Ransom
09-13-2014, 07:07 AM
Women abandon the O (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-losing-the-confidence-of-key-parts-of-the-coalition-that-elected-him/2014/09/11/18a1c2da-391b-11e4-bdfb-de4104544a37_story.html)

Not a surprise. In the modern media age, people vote based on optics. Thinking and rational thought are not part of the process for too many.

I concur, it's not a surprise. As well....married women voted Romney, Obama never had married women. Often older, employed, responsible for a household, paying taxes...you know....real world......those women majority voted Republican. Many of these voters of Obama were young, single, idealists, students, less mature less experienced, those more vulnerable to a big smile and promise of change. Married women knew better, many have seen men bearing gifts of hope and change both personally and professionally. Not as easily sold.

Peter1469
09-13-2014, 08:19 AM
The largest peace time expansion of an economy to that date- I can see why you would call that nothing.


Women would never give up orgasm, oh that's not the O meant. OT, most people like simple answers, simple solutions, so the fact the world is not simple bothers them and they then project their sentiments on those presumably in charge. History is full of examples. Consider the popularity of Ronald Reagan as an example. Reagan accomplished little and yet he is praised because of the simple cliches he uttered as truths. He was the perfect president as an actor can deliver substanceless homilies with great passion. I will give Reagan credit as he raised taxes constantly and helped social security remain solvent. Good things that are missing from the mythical president he has become in the minds of many.

"The aide [purported to be Karl Rove] said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."" Ron Suskind http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html