Democrats have no stones, they are dragging us into a war

[texan]

Why don' they stand up for what they believe in? They did this on Iraq remember? They told us after they all voted for the use of force in Iraq that they were neverf for it, that they felt pressured to vote for it because of polling.

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1998

"Saddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There's no question about that."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
During an interview on "Meet The Press"
November 17, 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat to the United States and to our allies.

If Saddam persists in thumbing his nose at the inspectors, then we're clearly going to have to do something about it."

Howard Dean, Democratic Presidential Candidate
During an interview on "Face The Nation"
September 29, 2002

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."


In 2007 they could have defunded that thing but..................."The capitulation of the Democratic Party’s congressional leadership to the Bush administration’s request for nearly $100 billion of unconditional supplementary government spending, primarily to support the war in Iraq, has led to outrage throughout the country. In the Senate, 37 of 49 Democrats voted on May 24 to support the measure. In the House, while only 86 of the 231 Democratic House members voted for the supplemental funding, 216 of them voted in favor of an earlier procedural vote designed to move the funding bill forward even though it would make the funding bill’s passage inevitable (while giving most of them a chance to claim they voted against it)."

http://fpif.org/the_democrats_support_for_bushs_war/

Why can't democrats stick to their beliefs?

[Boris The Animal]

It's a condition that only Liberals suffer from called "Doublestandarditis". Fortunately, Conservatism is the cure.

[Cigar]

What? The Democrats are dragging "US" to War?

I say the Congress should Vote on ... oh wait ... they are afraid to Vote or take any responsibility on anything.

Next Lie please

[The Xl]

Obama is taking us to war, this is correct.

The Neocons want it and more, though.

[Cigar]

Then I say our Elected Politicians should Vote on it.

Get it on Record

[The Xl]

Then I say our Elected Politicians should Vote on it.

Get it on Record



All the Neocons are frothing at the mouth, publicly, for war, and Obama is doing his best neocon lite impression with bombings.

We know they all want it.

[donttread]

Why don' they stand up for what they believe in? They did this on Iraq remember? They told us after they all voted for the use of force in Iraq that they were neverf for it, that they felt pressured to vote for it because of polling.

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
Statement on US Led Military Strike Against Iraq
December 16, 1998

"Saddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There's no question about that."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
During an interview on "Meet The Press"
November 17, 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat to the United States and to our allies.

If Saddam persists in thumbing his nose at the inspectors, then we're clearly going to have to do something about it."

Howard Dean, Democratic Presidential Candidate
During an interview on "Face The Nation"
September 29, 2002

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."


In 2007 they could have defunded that thing but..................."The capitulation of the Democratic Party’s congressional leadership to the Bush administration’s request for nearly $100 billion of unconditional supplementary government spending, primarily to support the war in Iraq, has led to outrage throughout the country. In the Senate, 37 of 49 Democrats voted on May 24 to support the measure. In the House, while only 86 of the 231 Democratic House members voted for the supplemental funding, 216 of them voted in favor of an earlier procedural vote designed to move the funding bill forward even though it would make the funding bill’s passage inevitable (while giving most of them a chance to claim they voted against it)."

http://fpif.org/the_democrats_support_for_bushs_war/

Why can't democrats stick to their beliefs?

Still think there is a real difference between the "two major parties" ? Bush extended federal control of education and Obame of the peace prise is making war and bailing out megacorps.

[Ransom]

All the Neocons are frothing at the mouth, publicly, for war, and Obama is doing his best neocon lite impression with bombings.

We know they all want it.

Suddenly the minority in the Senate and a House Majority can affect foreign policy. Having ignored this group for months if not years. Having termed them JV. Having set false red lines in Syria, having weak relations if not downright hostile to regimes in Syria, Iran, and Russia......Ohama finds himself having to come off the golf course and actually do something...and because we told you this would become a threat sooner rather than later. Because we play a little deserved we told you so, you wanna blame it all on us. Typical.

[Cigar]

All the Neocons are frothing at the mouth, publicly, for war, and Obama is doing his best neocon lite impression with bombings.

We know they all want it.


Naaa ... I real Neocon isn't happy until there's regular scheduled flights of C-17s bringing American Bodies home.

A Smart Battle uses Smart Technology with Smart Weaponry with a Collation at minimal risk to American lives.

Pay attention son ... and watch how it's done

[del]

collation?

[Cigar]

collation?

Ok /// you know what I mean ... War Buddies :grin:

[The Xl]

Naaa ... I real Neocon isn't happy until there's regular scheduled flights of C-17s bringing American Bodies home.

A Smart Battle uses Smart Technology with Smart Weaponry with a Collation at minimal risk to American lives.

Pay attention son ... and watch how it's done
Your boy will resort to ineffectual bombings that will do nothing constructive and enrage people by killing innocents, which will create more terrorists.

Stop being a mark.

[Ransom]

What Xl doesn't tell you there is anything in opposition creates terrorism. Naming a Teddy Bear Mohammed, Rushdie's book, burning holy books, insulting their camel.....all if it creates terrorism. We hear the argument everyday this has been going on for a thousand years or more....an we're 'creating' terrorism?

Another argument shot down by yours truly.

[texan]

What? The Democrats are dragging "US" to War?

I say the Congress should Vote on ... oh wait ... they are afraid to Vote or take any responsibility on anything.

Next Lie please


You do realize this lies in Obama's lap?

1. The dems asked that it not be brought up for a congressional vote for fear of the midterm voters.

2. Therefore he is acting alone, so blaming republicans for a lack of leadership is an incorrect action.

[texan]

And BTW it is convienent and political to toss out the republicans won't vote for what he asks for, not sure thats true. I do know they congress said they will note vote to fund teh Syrian portion. I have not heard the reasons why.............

IMO if anything should make us come together it should be ISIS. I think the biggest problem is Obama ignoring commanders for months, the worlds distrust of his commitment and his procrastinating process. The dems have been complaining about this on several issues for a while now.

[Mac-7]

All the Neocons are frothing at the mouth

There is that word again that pacifists and isolationist libs do not know how to use correctly.

can you name even one "neocon?"

[texan]

Ok /// you know what I mean ... War Buddies :grin:

Funny you can't tell me what the coalition is, except its about 40 countries less than Bush had which wasn't good enough. Not to mention his had 25,000 coalition member boots on the ground. Your man is quite popular internationaly isn't he?

[Green Arrow]

Oh, give me a break, texan. Just a couple weeks ago you were demanding Obama do something to combat ISIL. Now he releases a plan to do just that and you're complaining that he's fighting ISIL.

Why don't YOU stick to YOUR beliefs? Or maybe, if neoconism leaves such a bad taste in your mouth, you should just abandon it completely.

[Green Arrow]

There is that word again that pacifists and isolationist libs do not know how to use correctly.

can you name even one "neocon?"

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Rep. Peter King (R-NY2), Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI8), Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, SecDef Chuck Hagel...

That's eight, but I've got a lot more if you'd like more.

[texan]

"The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist left (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Anti-Stalinist_left) to the camp of American conservatism (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/American_conservatism).[2] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-2) Neoconservatives frequently advocate the "assertive" promotion of democracy (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Democracy) and promotion of "American national interest (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/National_interest)" in international affairs (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/International_relations) including by means of military force.[ (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-britannica-3)"


Kind of a softball wasn't it Greeny?

[Green Arrow]

"The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist left (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Anti-Stalinist_left) to the camp of American conservatism (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/American_conservatism).[2] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-2) Neoconservatives frequently advocate the "assertive" promotion of democracy (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Democracy) and promotion of "American national interest (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/National_interest)" in international affairs (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/International_relations) including by means of military force.[ (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-britannica-3)"


Kind of a softball wasn't it Greeny?

How do you mean?

[texan]

You nailed them easily.

[Green Arrow]

You nailed them easily.

Right, they aren't exactly hard to spot. If you asked me to name non-interventionists in Congress, I could probably come up with several names, too. Certain issues like this are easy to find out who is on what side.

[texan]

Most people don't know the definition.

[silvereyes]

Oh, give me a break, texan. Just a couple weeks ago you were demanding Obama do something to combat ISIL. Now he releases a plan to do just that and you're complaining that he's fighting ISIL.

Why don't YOU stick to YOUR beliefs? Or maybe, if neoconism leaves such a bad taste in your mouth, you should just abandon it completely.
Ummmm...because when it comes to the cons obama is damned if he does and damned if he doesnt.

[Green Arrow]

Most people don't know the definition.

I don't think that is correct. I think most people are aware of the definition.

[donttread]

We have either been beating the war drums or at war for most of the Bushbama years