View Full Version : The real threat Islamic Terrorist groups pose to America
donttread
09-26-2014, 06:04 PM
The real threat and the only threat that ISIS, ISIL, IS, ALQ et al pose to America as a whole is in the erosion of our way of life from our government's reaction to those groups.
Such as the unpatriot act , constant war, creating new terrorist and new boggeymen etc
Peter1469
09-26-2014, 06:14 PM
I imagine the wounded and dead at Ft. Hood would have a different view.
donttread
09-26-2014, 08:48 PM
I imagine the wounded and dead at Ft. Hood would have a different view.
That's where America as a whole comes in . Yes, they can and do launch isolated attacks, yet they are no real threat to our overall way of lie. But we are
Peter1469
09-26-2014, 08:59 PM
That's where America as a whole comes in . Yes, they can and do launch isolated attacks, yet they are no real threat to our overall way of lie. But we are
I agree with the bolded.
Mac-7
09-27-2014, 01:21 AM
The real threat and the only threat that ISIS, ISIL, IS, ALQ et al pose to America as a whole is in the erosion of our way of life from our government's reaction to those groups.
Such as the unpatriot act , constant war, creating new terrorist and new boggeymen etc
9-11-2001 was no fun for most Americans.
you can say that Muslims pose no threat to our way of life, but every airplane in America was grounded for 24 hours because of what Muslims did.
That day led to the Patriot Act which has altered our way of life.
Now we have an Obama voter who converted to the peaceful and highly respected religion of Islam beheading a white woman in the heart of America.
How many more Islamic gentleman like him are there roaming the streets of America?
If there are others, and more infidel heads roll thanks to the kind and gentile followers of Mohammed, then secret muslims in the White House will be forced to respond and thereby alter this country again.
donttread
09-27-2014, 09:37 AM
9-11-2001 was no fun for most Americans.
you can say that Muslims pose no threat to our way of life, but every airplane in America was grounded for 24 hours because of what Muslims did.
That day led to the Patriot Act which has altered our way of life.
Now we have an Obama voter who converted to the peaceful and highly respected religion of Islam beheading a white woman in the heart of America.
How many more Islamic gentleman like him are there roaming the streets of America?
If there are others, and more infidel heads roll thanks to the kind and gentile followers of Mohammed, then secret muslims in the White House will be forced to respond and thereby alter this country again.
That's my point. Yes 9/11 was awful, much like our bombs are awful. But the unpatriot act and similar legislation is what took our freedoms, not the attack
Mac-7
09-27-2014, 10:23 AM
That's my point. Yes 9/11 was awful, much like our bombs are awful. But the unpatriot act and similar legislation is what took our freedoms, not the attack
Can you be sure there would not be more terror attacks if we hadn't adopted the Patriot Act?
America is being run by bleeding heart libs and compassionate conservatives - bush and obumer - who are more worried about mistreating Muslims than protecting Americans.
I think we should be racial profiling Arabs and other Muslims instead of strip searching nuns but that's just me I guess.
Alyosha
09-27-2014, 10:42 AM
Mac-7
blame the CIA who have bee growing Islamic extremism since the 1950s. Every action they have taken since WWII has done nothing but piss off the world. Installing the Shah, helping the Muslim Brotherhood, playing Saddam against Iran, then deposing him...thank them.
donttread
09-27-2014, 11:02 AM
Can you be sure there would not be more terror attacks if we hadn't adopted the Patriot Act?
America is being run by bleeding heart libs and compassionate conservatives - bush and obumer - who are more worried about mistreating Muslims than protecting Americans.
I think we should be racial profiling Arabs and other Muslims instead of strip searching nuns but that's just me I guess.
No but I can be sure 9/11 would have never happened had it not been for "Charlie Wilson's War""
Peter1469
09-27-2014, 11:52 AM
No but I can be sure 9/11 would have never happened had it not been for "Charlie Wilson's War""
But would you have said that at the time? We were in a Cold War and the Soviets were the target. Other people argue that CW's war didn't cause 9-11, it was abandoning Afghanistan after the war to let them collapse into civil war.
Gunny
09-27-2014, 12:09 PM
The real threat and the only threat that ISIS, ISIL, IS, ALQ et al pose to America as a whole is in the erosion of our way of life from our government's reaction to those groups.
Such as the unpatriot act , constant war, creating new terrorist and new boggeymen etc
If you think there aren't sleeper cells already in this country, I'm not sure what I can say that'll make a difference. They're here nonetheless.
Peter1469
09-27-2014, 12:11 PM
Do we understand the difference between sleeper cells and infiltrators?
For example, the 9-11 crew were not sleeper cells. They went operational immediately upon getting into the US.
Gunny
09-27-2014, 12:13 PM
9-11-2001 was no fun for most Americans.
you can say that Muslims pose no threat to our way of life, but every airplane in America was grounded for 24 hours because of what Muslims did.
That day led to the Patriot Act which has altered our way of life.
Now we have an Obama voter who converted to the peaceful and highly respected religion of Islam beheading a white woman in the heart of America.
How many more Islamic gentleman like him are there roaming the streets of America?
If there are others, and more infidel heads roll thanks to the kind and gentile followers of Mohammed, then secret muslims in the White House will be forced to respond and thereby alter this country again.
That's my point. Yes 9/11 was awful, much like our bombs are awful. But the unpatriot act and similar legislation is what took our freedoms, not the attack
Every bit of security demanded from the government costs the exact amount you ask for in freedom.
Gunny
09-27-2014, 12:16 PM
Can you be sure there would not be more terror attacks if we hadn't adopted the Patriot Act?
America is being run by bleeding heart libs and compassionate conservatives - bush and obumer - who are more worried about mistreating Muslims than protecting Americans.
I think we should be racial profiling Arabs and other Muslims instead of strip searching nuns but that's just me I guess.
Needless legislation and an encroachment on our freedoms. The Patriot Act is like gun control ... it only affects law-abiding citizens.
Mac-7
09-27-2014, 12:49 PM
@Mac-7 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1014)
blame the CIA who have bee growing Islamic extremism since the 1950s. Every action they have taken since WWII has done nothing but piss off the world. Installing the Shah, helping the Muslim Brotherhood, playing Saddam against Iran, then deposing him...thank them.
Do you think the CIA did that without authorization of congress?
the decision to arm the afghans was a political decision,
Peter1469
09-27-2014, 01:02 PM
Do you think the CIA did that without authorization of congress?
the decision to arm the afghans was a political decision,
It is entirely possible. The CIA did lots of stuff off the books back then. That is what the Church Commission addressed.
On the other hand, I am not sure if Congress wouldn't have disagreed with the plan had they been asked back then....
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