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Chris
10-09-2014, 06:12 PM
From Watch Jay Carney Lie About The Colombian Prostitution Scandal (http://thefederalist.com/2014/10/09/watch-jay-carney-lie-about-the-colombian-prostitution-scandal/)

The Whitehouse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxjwWzNUXlM

The Washington Post:


As nearly two dozen Secret Service agents and members of the military were punished or fired following a 2012 prostitution scandal in Colombia, Obama administration officials repeatedly denied that anyone from the White House was involved.

But new details drawn from government documents and interviews show that senior White House aides were given information at the time suggesting that a prostitute was an overnight guest in the hotel room of a presidential advance-team member yet that information was never thoroughly investigated or publicly acknowledged.

The information that the Secret Service shared with the White House included hotel records and firsthand accounts the same types of evidence the agency and military relied on to determine who in their ranks was involved.


Who ya going to believe?

donttread
10-09-2014, 06:24 PM
I think the under paid hooker kicked the SS guy's ass, so maybe we should hire her? Anyway great lesson here for all young men. PAY YOUR HOOKERS!

Common Sense
10-09-2014, 06:28 PM
Some guy got a hooker....OMG what a story! This is surely to take down Barrack "Benghazi" Obola.

Chris
10-09-2014, 06:30 PM
Some guy got a hooker....OMG what a story! This is surely to take down Barrack "Benghazi" Obola.

My concern is not the hooker but the lies to cover it up. It seems to be a habit in this administration.

Common Sense
10-09-2014, 06:33 PM
My concern is not the hooker but the lies to cover it up. It seems to be a habit in this administration.

...as opposed to other administrations?

Chris
10-09-2014, 06:45 PM
...as opposed to other administrations?

Well, there's Clinton, isn't there. But, yes, they all do it and are all wrong for doing it.

midcan5
10-09-2014, 07:32 PM
Who the fluck cares! Is this all these idiots in congress have to do? Given their uselessness why do we even have them, why do we pay them, and since when are they the moral overlords of America. What crap. Americans are growing more stupid by day. And at least prostitutes do something, republicans do not a damn thing but bring up wild ass off the wall connections that our president in his spare time guided. LOL damn what a stupid country we have become.

Mac-7
10-09-2014, 08:23 PM
Who the fluck cares! Is this all these idiots in congress have to do? Given their uselessness why do we even have them, why do we pay them, and since when are they the moral overlords of America. What crap. Americans are growing more stupid by day. And at least prostitutes do something, republicans do not a damn thing but bring up wild ass off the wall connections that our president in his spare time guided. LOL damn what a stupid country we have become.

What you fail to understand is that Obama made a fool out of you, not the repubs.

they tried to tell you he was lying to you but you were too slow to understand.

still are in fact.

Chris
10-09-2014, 08:33 PM
Who the fluck cares! Is this all these idiots in congress have to do? Given their uselessness why do we even have them, why do we pay them, and since when are they the moral overlords of America. What crap. Americans are growing more stupid by day. And at least prostitutes do something, republicans do not a damn thing but bring up wild ass off the wall connections that our president in his spare time guided. LOL damn what a stupid country we have become.


You don't care that your government lies to your face? Wow.

PolWatch
10-09-2014, 11:22 PM
to a generation that experienced Watergate, hookers ain't all that interesting. Politicians lie and then lie some more to cover up their first lies.

donttread
10-10-2014, 06:49 AM
I think the issue is that they brought a hooker into the protected zone. Believe it or not, not all hookers are trust worthy

Peter1469
10-10-2014, 07:58 AM
It is certainly better than them passing more destructive legislation such as Obamacare.


Who the fluck cares! Is this all these idiots in congress have to do? Given their uselessness why do we even have them, why do we pay them, and since when are they the moral overlords of America. What crap. Americans are growing more stupid by day. And at least prostitutes do something, republicans do not a damn thing but bring up wild ass off the wall connections that our president in his spare time guided. LOL damn what a stupid country we have become.

Mac-7
10-10-2014, 08:12 AM
to a generation that experienced Watergate, hookers ain't all that interesting.

Does total incompetence interest libs?

The Secret Service under these Obama appointees has become a joke.

I don't think foreign government enemies of America would want to kill a fool like Obama because he does more harm to the country alive than dead.

But a lone wolf nut case might give it a try.

and with the decline of the Secret Service under Obama he might get lucky and succeed.

Chris
10-10-2014, 08:19 AM
to a generation that experienced Watergate, hookers ain't all that interesting. Politicians lie and then lie some more to cover up their first lies.

Just a reminder they continue to do that and we continue to trust them and elect them.

Peter1469
10-10-2014, 08:20 AM
Firing 12 extremely highly trained agents over the prostitution thing likely destroyed moral. Clue- this has been going on with every overseas trip where it is available since the Secret Service was started.

We don't put the Boy Scouts in charge of presidential security for a reason.

donttread
10-10-2014, 08:22 AM
Firing 12 extremely highly trained agents over the prostitution thing likely destroyed moral. Clue- this has been going on with every overseas trip where it is available since the Secret Service was started.

We don't put the Boy Scouts in charge of presidential security for a reason.

This never comes out if that cheapskate han't tried to welsh on what he owed her. Still hookers in the protected zone is bullshit

Peter1469
10-10-2014, 08:23 AM
Yes, it was a cheap skate who screwed this up for everyone else....


This never comes out if that cheapskate han't tried to welsh on what he owed her. Still hookers in the protected zone is bullshit

Mac-7
10-10-2014, 08:27 AM
Firing 12 extremely highly trained agents over the prostitution thing likely destroyed moral. Clue- this has been going on with every overseas trip where it is available since the Secret Service was started.

We don't put the Boy Scouts in charge of presidential security for a reason.

There seems to be a tendency of some to dismiss the incident because "its only about sex."

but in this case "only sex" cost people their career in the highly coveted Secret Service.

that alone makes it a serious offense.

Peter1469
10-10-2014, 08:44 AM
That is sort of my point. Moral has been destroyed in the Secret Service over something that was commonly accepted in the past. And many of these people were trained to the level of a Tier One operator from USSOCOM.


There seems to be a tendency of some to dismiss the incident because "its only about sex."

but in this case "only sex" cost people their career in the highly coveted Secret Service.

that alone makes it a serious offense.

Mac-7
10-10-2014, 09:02 AM
That is sort of my point. Moral has been destroyed in the Secret Service over something that was commonly accepted in the past. And many of these people were trained to the level of a Tier One operator from USSOCOM.

I'm not sure that consorting with prostitutes by the Secret Service while on duty has always been that common.

if it were then why haven't we been reading about it all these years?

Peter1469
10-10-2014, 09:06 AM
Im not sure that consorting with prostitutes by the Secret Service while on duty has always been that common.

if it were then why haven't we been reading about it all these years?

They weren't on duty.

Mac-7
10-10-2014, 09:08 AM
They weren't on duty.

were they in Columbia on vacation?

donttread
10-10-2014, 09:41 AM
That is sort of my point. Moral has been destroyed in the Secret Service over something that was commonly accepted in the past. And many of these people were trained to the level of a Tier One operator from USSOCOM.

They should have gone to the hooker, not vice versa

Peter1469
10-10-2014, 09:43 AM
were they in Columbia on vacation?

I assume you don't need a response.

Mac-7
10-10-2014, 09:47 AM
I assume you don't need a response.

The correct response is that they were on duty in Columbia and not on vacation.

And therefore on duty when they got mixed up with the call girls.

Common Sense
10-10-2014, 09:49 AM
The correct response is that they were on duty in Columbia and not on vacation.

And therefore on duty when they got mixed up with the call girls.

They had no time off? They were on duty 24/7?

That's weird, usually people get time off.

Mac-7
10-10-2014, 09:51 AM
They had no time off? They were on duty 24/7?

.

None.

Where prostitutes were concerned they were on duty the entire time they were in Columbia.

Peter1469
10-10-2014, 10:08 AM
Incorrect.


The correct response is that they were on duty in Columbia and not on vacation.

And therefore on duty when they got mixed up with the call girls.

Peter1469
10-10-2014, 10:09 AM
Correct.


They had no time off? They were on duty 24/7?

That's weird, usually people get time off.

Mac-7
10-10-2014, 10:11 AM
Incorrect.

They were in Columbia to do a job.

every minute they were there they were on duty.

plus, the agents were fired for cause so hiring the hookers was against regulations anyway either way.

Chris
10-10-2014, 10:40 AM
From Jonah Goldberg (whose name alone should trigger a few good ad homs!): The Cartagena-Hooker Cover-Up: If the White House would falsify records about this, it can deceive the public about larger issues (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/390001/cartagena-hooker-cover-jonah-goldberg)


In news that must have left my friends at the New York Post — never mind the gang at The Daily Show – with a renewed confidence that ours is a just and beneficent God, the White House has been caught covering up a scandal involving a Cartagena hooker.

The phrase “Cartagena hooker” alone is a mellifluous gift to ink-stained wretches everywhere, but the revelation that the White House reassigned the alleged client of the aforementioned Andean call girl to the State Department’s office of “Global Women’s Issues” is the sort of flourish Tom Wolfe or Chris Buckley wouldn’t dare attempt as satire.

Let us back up for a moment....

[snip details]

...Neither answer excludes the other, and both speak volumes about this White House’s problems. The underlying scandal is fairly minor. But if the White House would falsify records and lie to the public about this, is it really so hard to imagine that it would deceive the public – and Congress – about larger issues like, say, Benghazi? (Just this week, former Obama secretary of defense Leon Panetta told Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly that the infamous White House talking points on the attack were essentially bogus.)

But it also speaks to the seedy way Obama talks about politics generally. The president loves to denounce a cynical system where politics comes before the public good. He rails about a system where fat cats live by a different set of rules than the little guy, and money buys special treatment and access. But the way he operates runs completely counter to all that. Which is why the only person to come out of this scandal in an honorable light is the Cartagena hooker.