Why don't we treat immigration and the minimum wage issue as related topics

[donttread]

Both of the Dokephant's heads bluster on about illegal immigration as well as about increasing federal minimum wage with wordy pro and con arguments. Yet seldom do these arguments connect the two so obviously related issues.
Illegal immigration keeps labor rates artificially low to the point where a couple with both working full time sometimes can't support their family without government assistance. Often these are the folks who do what little true "hard work" there is left to do in our society. Of course artificially low labor rates, much like being soft on illegal immigration are both bad for the country but good for the politicians and their corporate overlords.The solution politicians will tell you is to pass more laws rather than enforcing the immigration laws we already have.
Just another example of how they pretend to be doing something but never really are.

[KC]

Politicians ignore the obvious link, but anyone who is even slightly educated in economics understands that the two are closely related.

[donttread]

Politicians ignore the obvious link, but anyone who is even slightly educated in economics understands that the two are closely related.

Yes and Washington understands it to. They just can't go there because their masters won't let them. Why are meaningful questions like this never posed in a debate?

[Mister D]

because far too many Americans cower when the R word is thrown about by New Class sycophants. Their efforts are expended trying to explain how they aren't motivated by racist. We even see it in the OP. The issue is not illegal immigration. The issue is immigration. Period.

[donttread]

because far too many Americans cower when the R word is thrown about by New Class sycophants. Their efforts are expended trying to explain how they aren't motivated by racist. We even see it in the OP. The issue is not illegal immigration. The issue is immigration. Period.

Good point, its not like the sheep's education process has taught them to think through such bullshit

[Mister D]

Good point, its not like the sheep's education process has taught them to think through such bull$#@!

I'm not sure it's so much a matter of education as it is one of basic courage.

[Mac-7]

Both of the Dokephant's heads bluster on about illegal immigration as well as about increasing federal minimum wage with wordy pro and con arguments. Yet seldom do these arguments connect the two so obviously related issues.
Illegal immigration keeps labor rates artificially low to the point where a couple with both working full time sometimes can't support their family without government assistance. Often these are the folks who do what little true "hard work" there is left to do in our society. Of course artificially low labor rates, much like being soft on illegal immigration are both bad for the country but good for the politicians and their corporate overlords.The solution politicians will tell you is to pass more laws rather than enforcing the immigration laws we already have.
Just another example of how they pretend to be doing something but never really are.

Until recently libertarians supported open borders and mass migration from Mexico.

The democrat party absolutely wants open borders and it is only republicans who stand in the way of amnesty.

[donttread]

Until recently libertarians supported open borders and mass migration from Mexico.

The democrat party absolutely wants open borders and it is only republicans who stand in the way of amnesty.

There stance is a sham. Otherwise something would of been done when they were in power

[Mac-7]

There stance is a sham. Otherwise something would of been done when they were in power

Maybe the dems are just teasing the Hispanics.

because the fact is most voters do not want open borders and amnesty.

but as in the example of ObamaCare the occupant of the White House has proven that he does not care if the public likes it or not.

So he certainly could pull the trigger on amnesty after the election.

and I assume that as long as libs of the libertarian persuasion are getting their preference on social issues then to hell with everything else.

[Max Rockatansky]

Why don't we treat immigration and the minimum wage issue as related topics

Most of the paper-hat wearing crowd are inner city Americans, not illegal immigrants. The linked report below gives the statistics. Besides, while illegals may make low pay, most states have laws against hiring illegal immigrants so, regardless of the actual Federally mandated minimum wage, they would be paid low rates under the table. What are they going to do? File a Federal complaint???

http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2013.pdf

In 2013, 75.9 million workers age 16 and older in the
United States were paid at hourly rates, representing
58.8 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among
those paid by the hour, 1.5 million earned exactly the
prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.
About 1.8 million had wages below the federal minimum.
Together, these 3.3 million workers with wages at or
below the federal minimum made up 4.3 percent of all
hourly paid workers.

Race and Hispanic or Latino ethnicity. The percentage of hourly paid workers with wages at or below the federal
minimum wage was little different among the major race
and ethnicity groups. About 5 percent of Black workers,
4 percent of White workers and Hispanic or Latino
workers, and 3 percent of Asian workers earned the federal
minimum wage or less. (See table 1.)