House Intel Committee report on Ben Ghazi torches conspiracy theories

[Bo-4]

Hey i have an idea Republicans: After Gowdy's group comes to the same conclusions as the last nine, open ANOTHER one! :D


Among its findings, the report says CIA personnel responded not just well, but heroically; that there was no "stand down" order, as some critics have claimed; there was no intimidation of witnesses by superiors; there was no intelligence failure prior to the attack; and that a "mixed group" of individuals, including some linked to al Qaeda, participated in the attack. But perhaps the most significant conclusion is its finding that Rice's talking points -- a key focus of the Benghazi Select Committee empaneled by House Speaker John Boehner -- were not part of an attempt to conceal the severity of the incident.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/21/benghazi-intelligence-com_n_6201650.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

[Peter1469]

Despite what key witnesses say....

[Bo-4]

Despite what key witnesses say....

Well, pick through the report Peter.. then get back to us with all the smoking guns. ;)

[Peter1469]

Well, pick through the report Peter.. then get back to us with all the smoking guns. ;)

Why? People who were actually there have come out already. Cat is out of the bag.

[exotix]

Trey *inbred-jed* Gowdy ?

This guys' claim to fame before becoming a member of congress was to appear on On The Case with Paula Zahn to say how great he was as a prosecutor in east-bumfuck in getting convictions on obviously guilty lowlife scumbag murderers.


LOL

[Bo-4]

Trey *inbred-jed* Gowdy ?

This guys' claim to fame before becoming a member of congress was to appear on On The Case with Paula Zahn to say how great he was in getting convictions on obviously guilty lowlife scumbag murderers.

Somehow he seems to have become the new RW hero. Must be the hair. :cool:

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/7/25/16/enhanced-buzz-20520-1374782804-30.jpg

[exotix]

Somehow he seems to have become the new RW hero. Must be the hair. :cool:

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/7/25/16/enhanced-buzz-20520-1374782804-30.jpg
This guy looks like the doctor squeezed to hard with the forceps at birth.


http://i58.tinypic.com/34jelqf.jpg

[TrueBlue]

Republicans Finally Admit There Is No Benghazi Scandal
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/11/republicans-finally-admit-there-no-benghazi-scandal


"Today, with the midterm elections safely past, they issued their findings. (http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/Benghazi Report.pdf) Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly absolute."

=========================================
For all the talk by Republicans about Benghazi! Benghazi! the Truth is now revealed by Republicans that there was no scandal to speak of. That is good news.

Hillary Clinton was dragged through this for some time as most of you well know and to think that all of the while they knew there was nothing to this story. Therefore, Republicans owe Hillary Clinton a well-deserved apology.

This is a great report that *Everyone* Must Read! It contains the points found by the Republican House Select Intelligence Committee on Benghazi that everyone should be informed on.

[hanger4]

And they still lied about the *video made wm so it* I guess elections trump da truth.

[hanger4]

And they still lied about the *video made em do it* I guess elections trump da truth.

[Paperback Writer]

Iran Contra wasn't about drugs or guns. No evidence by the time it was under Congressional hearings.

Look you can live in a world of juniper berries and fluff but when this whole rubbish began it was an ordinary middle of the night meeting with no CIA involved and the mob descended on an embassy due to a videotape about Muhammad. Now, they admit it was a CIA location and we're to believe them that no weapons transactions were involved or secret type affairs...in the middle of the night...surrounded by former SEALs.

I don't give two wits for the rest of it, the stand down order or no stand down order. I care that your country and my county are involved in very nasty bits of business out of our eyesight that has destabilised the middle east and made our lives and countless others filled with uncertainty.

[PolWatch]

There is an actual copy of the official report referenced in the site and does put all the rumors to rest. They reference 20 investigation hearings but it sure seems like more.

Now, if we can get some official report stating that more people died in the recent snow in Buffalo than of Ebola in the US, we might be ready to go forward. Let's hope so.

[hanger4]

According to the reeport there was no protest. They still lied about the *video made em do it*

[PolWatch]

According to the reeport there was no protest. They still lied about the *video made em do it*

I think they said the early reports were wrong...2 day delay for correct intelligence. Did gwb lie...or trust faulty intelligence?

[Bo-4]

And they still lied about the *video made em do it* I guess elections trump da truth.

That was the belief in the initial hours after the tragedy. Something changed as more info became available? WoW -- scandalous!

[hanger4]

I think they said the early reports were wrong...2 day delay for correct intelligence. Did gwb lie...or trust faulty intelligence?

And 5 days later Rice lied.

[Paperback Writer]

There is an actual copy of the official report referenced in the site and does put all the rumors to rest. They reference 20 investigation hearings but it sure seems like more.

Now, if we can get some official report stating that more people died in the recent snow in Buffalo than of Ebola in the US, we might be ready to go forward. Let's hope so.

The report is rubbish. The second the CIA is involved you receive only what they want you to receive.

[Paperback Writer]

I think they said the early reports were wrong...2 day delay for correct intelligence. Did gwb lie...or trust faulty intelligence?

Both.

[PolWatch]

I have to admit that anything involving the CIA makes me think we will never learn the complete details....I also think that a lotta people in Washington have no real facts on what they are doing. I just think there has been enough time & $$$ wasted on this and its time to move past it. There is nothing to be accomplished now but more finger pointing. I doubt it will happen, but I still hope that someone will do something besides blame others for what happened in the past and think about fixing a few problems...silly me.

[hanger4]

That was the belief in the initial hours after the tragedy. Something changed as more info became available? WoW -- scandalous!
You would be correct. I read the report instead of Newies disseminations of it. Rice did not lie. The WH was the victim of faulty intelligence. Shades of Bush !!

[exotix]

And they still lied about the *video made em do it* I guess elections trump da truth.
Who said it was a lie again ?

[Peter1469]

Notice: Duplicate threads merged

[hanger4]

Who said it was a lie again ?

Done answered that exo. Please try and keep up.

[Professor Peabody]

There was a major failure of leadership at the State Dept that lead to the death's of 4 Americans including the first American Ambassador to die in the line of duty since 1979. A whitewash at this point serves no one especially the families of the dead and the American people as a whole. What disconnect at the State Dept of it's leadership did it take to get from..............this........


Security Incidents Prior to the Benghazi Attack

December 2011: Terror plot thwarted, but Benghazi emergency plan warns of many Islamic terrorists still operating in area.

March 2012: U.S. Embassy in Tripoli lead security officer, RSO Eric Nordstrom, requests additional security but later testified he received no response.

April 10, 2012: An explosive device is thrown at a convoy carrying U.N. envoy Ian Martin.

May 22, 2012: A rocket-propelled grenade hits the offices of the International Red Cross.

June 6, 2012: An IED explodes outside the Benghazi consulate compound.

June 11, 2012: An RPG hits a convoy carrying the British Ambassador. The U.K. closes its consulate. Col. Wood, military Site Security Team (SST) commander, is in Benghazi, and helps with emergency response.

July 2012: RSO Nordstrom again requests additional security (perhaps via cable signed by Amb. Stevens dated July 9, see below).

July 9, 2012: Amb. Stevens sends a cable requesting continued help from military SST and State Dept. MSD (Mobile Security Deployment team) through mid-Sept. 2012, saying that benchmarks for a drawdown have not been met. The teams are not extended.

Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape

Early August: State Dept. removes the last of three 6-man State Dept. security teams and a 16-man military SST team from Libya.

August 2, 2012: Ambassador Stevens sends a cable to D.C. requesting "protective detail bodyguard postions" -- saying the added guards "will fill the vaccum of security personnel currently at post... who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent."

August 8, 2012: A cable from Amb. Stevens to D.C. says "a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape" and calls them "targeted and discriminate attacks."

Aug. 27, 2012: The State Department issues a travel warning for Libya citing the threat of assassination and car bombings in Benghazi/Tripoli.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57544719/timeline-how-benghazi-attack-probe-unfolded/

• March 18, 2012 – Armed robbery occurs at the British School in Benghazi.

• March 22, 2012 – Members of a militia searching for a suspect fire their weapons near the SMC and attempt to enter.

• April 2, 2012 – A UK armored diplomatic vehicle is attacked after driving into a local protest. The vehicle was damaged but occupants uninjured.

• April 6, 2012 – A gelatina bomb (traditional homemade explosive deviceused for fishing) is thrown over the SMC north wall.

• April 10, 2012 – An IED (gelatina or dynamite stick) is thrown at the motorcade of the UN Special Envoy to Libya in Benghazi.

• April 26, 2012 – Special Mission Benghazi principal officer is evacuatedfrom International Medical University (IMU) after a fistfight escalated to gunfire between Tripoli - based trade delegation security personnel and IMU security.

• April 27, 2012 – Two South African nationals in Libya as part of U.S. funded weapons abatement, unexploded ordnance removal and demining project are detained at gunpoint by militia, questioned and released.

• May 22, 2012 – Benghazi International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) building struck by rocket propelled grenades (RPGs).

• May 28, 2012 – A previously unknown organization, Omar Abdurrahman group, claims responsibility for the ICRC attac
k and issues a threat against the United States on social media sites.

• June 6, 2012 – IED attack on the SMC . The IED detonates with no injuries but blows a large hole in the compound’s exterior wall. Omar Abdurrahman group makes an unsubstantiated claim of responsibility.

• June 8, 2012 – Two hand grenades target a parked UK diplomatic vehicle in Sabha (800 km south of Benghazi).

• June 11, 2012 – While in Benghazi, the British Ambassador’s convoy is attacked with an RPG and possible AK-47s. Two UK security officers are injured; the UK closes its mission in Benghazi the following day.

• June 12, 2012 – An RPG attack is made on the ICRC compound in Misrata (400 km west of Benghazi).

• June 18, 2012 – Protestors storm the Tunisian consulate in Benghazi.

• July 29, 2012 – An IED is found on grounds of the Tibesti Hotel.

• July 30, 2012 – Sudanese Consul in Benghazi is carjacked and driver beaten.

• July 31, 2012 – Seven Iranian - citizen ICRC workers abducted in Benghazi.

• August 5, 2012 – ICRC Misrata office is attacked with RPGs. ICRC withdraws its representatives from Misrata and Benghazi.

• August 9, 2012 – A Spanish - American dual national NGO worker isabducted from the Islamic Cultural Center in Benghazi and released the same day.

• August 20, 2012 – A small bomb is thrown at an Egyptian diplomat’s vehicle parked outside of the Egyptian consulate in Benghazi.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

............to 09/11/2012?

Hillary Clinton's State Dept actually REDUCED security in Benghazi, despite pleas from Ambassador Steven's and others to INCREASE it. Liberals and Democrats want to frame the Benghazi attack as beginning when the attack did, so there was nothing that could be done. Nothing could be further from the truth. A Benghazi terror plot had been thwarted as far back as 12/2011, a FULL 9 months before the attack. There was plenty of time to execute an exit/defense strategy. In order for this never to happen again, it is necessary to closely examine the breakdown in leadership of Clinton's State Dept. This would be relatively easy if they were forthcoming with all information. Unfortunately, the Democrats have chosen the path of secrecy instead of the transparency President Obama promised us would be the touchstone of his administration.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72g7qmeP1dE

This could have been over in a few weeks if the President just ordered the State dept to fully cooperate with the investigation. But that's not what's happening, so it will become an unfortunate spectacle as the Republicans must drag the truth out of Obama's touchstone.

In my opinion, the Democrats have circled the wagons in an attempt to save Hillary Clinton for 2016 from her royal screw up. To that end they are smearing their whole party instead of cutting their losses and let her go under the bus due to her own failures. It's quite sad really. But at the end of the day, if she couldn't handle the State Dept well enough to ensure the first American Ambassador killed in the line of duty since 1979 ...WASN'T, why would anyone even dream she could handle being President of the United States?

[momsapplepie]

Both Mike Rogers and Dutch Ruppersberger are members of the Congressional Gang of Eight. They are the ONLY authors. This is not a House Intelligence “Committee” report on Benghazi. This is only two committee members writing a report based on prior information.

[Bo-4]

Of course Little Lindsey Graham will have none of it! :D


But it doesn't seem like Republicans will be rushing to follow Flake's lead. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said during an interview Sunday with CNN's "State of the Union" that he didn't buy the committee's findings.

Graham said the report was "full of crap. That's a bunch of garbage. That's a complete bunch of garbage," the senator said when host Gloria Borger pointed to the report's conclusion that no one in the administration had lied.

"Why is the Republican chairman on the House Intelligence Committee buying a bunch of garbage?" Borger asked in response. "Good question," said Graham.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/23/jeff-flake-benghazi_n_6207358.html?1416760186

[exotix]

Nonetheless Flake is one bizarre dude who recites daily memos from the tea party manifesto on every utterance.

[momsapplepie]

Both Mike Rogers and Dutch Ruppersberger are members of the Congressional Gang of Eight. They are the ONLY authors. This is not a House Intelligence “Committee” report on Benghazi. This is only two committee members writing a report based on prior information.

[Bo-4]

Both Mike Rogers and Dutch Ruppersberger are members of the Congressional Gang of Eight. They are the ONLY authors. This is not a House Intelligence “Committee” report on Benghazi. This is only two committee members writing a report based on prior information.

What planet do you live on? Yes, it was a REPUBLICAN House Intelligence Committee report.

Sheesh! :rolleyes:

[Paperback Writer]

Any reasonable person would not buy the findings. There is a vested interest in not telling the world that your intelligence agencies were selling arms. You'd lose all credibility on the world stage for your next application for "Coalition of the Willing" membership.

There is enough talk in journalistic circles to know that this was an intelligence operation gone wrong. You may continue to believe as you will and was designed for you to believe. Those of intelligence will understand that the official story stinks to high heavens.

[momsapplepie]

It is not the current Investigative committee. and the gang of 8 included nasty pelousy and frankenfinestein, and hairy reid.. This was a bi partisan committee not a republican committee. The report was written by two members, not the committee itself. reviewing past information. It was a feint and a worthless waste of paper.

[Bo-4]

Any reasonable person would not buy the findings. There is a vested interest in not telling the world that your intelligence agencies were selling arms. You'd lose all credibility on the world stage for your next application for "Coalition of the Willing" membership.

There is enough talk in journalistic circles to know that this was an intelligence operation gone wrong. You may continue to believe as you will and was designed for you to believe. Those of intelligence will understand that the official story stinks to high heavens.

Whooo boy, no more Breitbart, InfoWars of PrisonPlanet for you! :cool:

[Bo-4]

It is not the current Investigative committee. and the gang of 8 included nasty pelousy and frankenfinestein, and hairy reid.. This was a bi partisan committee not a republican committee. The report was written by two members, not the committee itself. reviewing past information. It was a feint and a worthless waste of paper.

This investigation came to pretty much the same conclusions as the other 15 or so previous investigations. Not the CURRENT one? Lol, maybe GOWDY can find the smoking gun! ;-)

[Bo-4]

Nonetheless Flake is one bizarre dude who recites daily memos from the tea party manifesto on every utterance.

Yep, Jiffy's tea is over-steeped. Just goes to show you how out there and angry Lil' Miss Lindsey is!

[momsapplepie]

This investigation came to pretty much the same conclusions as the other 15 or so previous investigations. Not the CURRENT one? Lol, maybe GOWDY can find the smoking gun! ;-)
I hope he does. He can start with hitlery's state department and the witness who saw hitlery's minions destroying docs about Benghazi.

[Bo-4]

I hope he does. He can start with hitlery's state department and the witness who saw hitlery's minions destroying docs about Benghazi.

Oh yes, please do link me to "Hitlery's minions" destroying documents! :D

[momsapplepie]

Sure.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756601/State-Department-conducted-basement-operation-damaging-information-Benghazi-review-board-claims-former-senior-diplomat.html

[Paperback Writer]

Gay and liberal, surely not a right-winger:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-itn_LJuM

[Bo-4]

Sure.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756601/State-Department-conducted-basement-operation-damaging-information-Benghazi-review-board-claims-former-senior-diplomat.html

So, disgraced Brit tabloid Daily Mail reports that whistle blower (who was under investigation) told Heritage Foundation's Daily Signal that they were up to nefarious stuff in the basement?

LoL!!!
:laughing9:

[Bo-4]

Gay and liberal, surely not a right-winger:

While much smarter than Alex Jones, Greenwald never met a conspiracy theory he didn't love.

[Paperback Writer]

So, disgraced Brit tabloid Daily Mail reports that whistle blower (who was under investigation) told Heritage Foundation's Daily Signal that they were up to nefarious stuff in the basement?

LoL!!!
:laughing9:


It's more than that. Jeremy Scahill among others have been following CIA activities for years. You choose to believe the official report because it makes you feel good.

Fact is, if you continue to turn a blind eye to what your gut tells you when you read these ludicrous gloss-overs you'll see more death and destruction due to foreign adventurism until you're drowned in the blood of the repercussions.

[momsapplepie]

Go ahead and laugh now. You may not be laughing come 2016 and they hang another piece of baggage on the pantsuit queen.

[hanger4]

So, disgraced Brit tabloid Daily Mail reports that whistle blower (who was under investigation) told Heritage Foundation's Daily Signal that they were up to nefarious stuff in the basement?

LoL!!!
:laughing9:

Maxwell was cleared of wrong doing. Should of read all the story. Here's another link you can disseminate. : http://sharylattkisson.com/exclusive-was-there-a-benghazi-document-scrubbing-operation-in-state-dept-basement-one-former-diplomat-thinks-so

[Bo-4]

Maxwell was cleared of wrong doing. Should of read all the story. Here's another link you can disseminate. : http://sharylattkisson.com/exclusive-was-there-a-benghazi-document-scrubbing-operation-in-state-dept-basement-one-former-diplomat-thinks-so

sharylattkisson.com? Yes, this blogster reported the same thing the Daily Mail and Heritage owned Daily Signal did. And to think that Moms doesn't believe anything in HuffPo. :rolleyes:

[Paperback Writer]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/10/1186031/-Bombshell-article-about-Petraeus-and-Benghazi-based-on-e-book-to-be-released-Tuesday#

They're still liberal, are they not?

[hanger4]

sharylattkisson.com? Yes, this blogster reported the same thing the Daily Mail and Heritage owned Daily Signal did. And to think that Moms doesn't believe anything in HuffPo. :rolleyes:

Sharyl Attkisson a bloger ?? How little you Bo-4 : Sharyl Attkisson (born January 26, 1961)[1] is an American author and formerly an investigative correspondent in the Washington bureau for CBS News. She had also substituted as anchor for the CBS Evening News. She resigned from CBS News on March 10, 2014 after 21 years with the network. : http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharyl_Attkisson

[Bo-4]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/10/1186031/-Bombshell-article-about-Petraeus-and-Benghazi-based-on-e-book-to-be-released-Tuesday#

They're still liberal, are they not?

So tell us PW, did this whistleblower get interviewed by any the 15 or so Ben Ghazi investigations yet? If so, did they find him believable??

I think not, or we would have heard about it from Dirty Darrell Issa by now. ;-)

[Bo-4]

Sharyl Attkisson a bloger ?? How little you @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297) : Sharyl Attkisson (born January 26, 1961)[1] is an American author and formerly an investigative correspondent in the Washington bureau for CBS News. She had also substituted as anchor for the CBS Evening News. She resigned from CBS News on March 10, 2014 after 21 years with the network. : http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharyl_Attkisson

Her background is more impressive than anticipated. Thanks. However, all she did was cut and paste a portion the Daily Mail/Signal stories without adding any thoughts of her own.

[Crepitus]

None of this matters. The republican base will continue to believe what they believe because that's what they were told to believe. Angels could carry a flaming banner saying "there is no wrongdoing" right into their living rooms and it would be discounted as "liberal propaganda because they own the main stream media". The only and I do mean only thing that will change that is if the talking heads tell them different.

[Peter1469]

Yet we believe the CIA version of events at an area involving a classified project? :smiley:

OK....


None of this matters. The republican base will continue to believe what they believe because that's what they were told to believe. Angels could carry a flaming banner saying "there is no wrongdoing" right into their living rooms and it would be discounted as "liberal propaganda because they own the main stream media". The only and I do mean only thing that will change that is if the talking heads tell them different.

[Bo-4]

None of this matters. The republican base will continue to believe what they believe because that's what they were told to believe. Angels could carry a flaming banner saying "there is no wrongdoing" right into their living rooms and it would be discounted as "liberal propaganda because they own the main stream media". The only and I do mean only thing that will change that is if the talking heads tell them different.

I watched a couple hours of Fox News over the weekend. Did they talk about the findings of this investigation?

Meh, they were too busy bellyaching about Impeachment of The Imperial President and various other fluff ;-)

http://www.salon.com/2014/11/17/5_worst_right_wing_moments_of_the_week_—%C2%A0megy n_kelly_compared_what_to_murder/

[Peter1469]

Yet we believe the CIA version of events at an area involving a classified project? :smiley:

OK.... bump

[Alyosha]

Yet we believe the CIA version of events at an area involving a classified project? :smiley:

OK....

^This. And the spying on Diane Feinstein and others in no way had any intimidation effects on them or how they proceeded after that. :rollseyes:

[Alyosha]

None of this matters. The republican base will continue to believe what they believe because that's what they were told to believe. Angels could carry a flaming banner saying "there is no wrongdoing" right into their living rooms and it would be discounted as "liberal propaganda because they own the main stream media". The only and I do mean only thing that will change that is if the talking heads tell them different.

And I imagine you feel that Democrats are somehow different and immune to partisan group think, do you? ((snickers)) OK.

[hanger4]

Her background is more impressive than anticipated. Thanks. However, all she did was cut and paste a portion the Daily Mail/Signal stories without adding any thoughts of her own.

It's her story. Don't know what the DailyMail ia doing. You need to read her story at the Signal. : http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/15/benghazi-bombshell-clinton-state-department-official-reveals-alleged-details-document-review/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

[Bo-4]

It's her story. Don't know what the DailyMail ia doing. You need to read her story at the Signal. : http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/15/benghazi-bombshell-clinton-state-department-official-reveals-alleged-details-document-review/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Why would a supposedly well-respected journalist contribute to a tabloid owned by the Heritage Foundation which is now run by Jim DeMint and funded by the Koch Brothers?

That's strike one .. just sayin'.

[momsapplepie]

just as why would anyone pay any mind to huff and puuf or media matters run by the slime bucket soros?

[Bo-4]

just as why would anyone pay any mind to huff and puuf or media matters run by the slime bucket soros?

I don't know, why would anyone pay any mind to the Daily Signal owned by The Heritage Foundation, run by teabagging moron Jim DeMint and funded by the Koch Brothers?

[momsapplepie]

Ohhhh, that extra baggage is really going to hurt cankles isn't it?

[exotix]

Maxwell was cleared of wrong doing. Should of read all the story. Here's another link you can disseminate. : http://sharylattkisson.com/exclusive-was-there-a-benghazi-document-scrubbing-operation-in-state-dept-basement-one-former-diplomat-thinks-so
Sharyl Attkisson a bloger ?? How little you @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297) : Sharyl Attkisson (born January 26, 1961)[1] is an American author and formerly an investigative correspondent in the Washington bureau for CBS News. She had also substituted as anchor for the CBS Evening News. She resigned from CBS News on March 10, 2014 after 21 years with the network. : http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharyl_Attkisson

It's her story. Don't know what the DailyMail ia doing. You need to read her story at the Signal. : http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/15/benghazi-bombshell-clinton-state-department-official-reveals-alleged-details-document-review/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
Got those crimes yet Issa was investigating ?


http://i60.tinypic.com/2meq06v.png

[Alyosha]

Asking the CIA to turn over documents that would prove they have performed illegal activities and then believe they'll do it is about the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard out of you people in my life.

Are you all functional fucking idiots?

Ahem, sorry. My eye hurts.

[exotix]

Asking the CIA to turn over documents that would prove they have performed illegal activities and then believe they'll do it is about the dumbest $#@!ing thing I have ever heard out of you people in my life.

Are you all functional $#@!ing idiots?

Ahem, sorry. My eye hurts.
We're still waiting for charges of lying because of a video.

[hanger4]

We're still waiting for charges of lying because of a video.

According to the report Rice and the WH didn't lie. They were the victims of faulty intelligence. Shades of Bush. LOL

[Bo-4]

Got those crimes yet Issa was investigating ?

Poor Dirty Darrell was SO embarrassing to normal Republicans, that they put him out to pasture. :D

[hanger4]

Got those crimes yet Issa was investigating ?


http://i60.tinypic.com/2meq06v.png

Like I said ask Richard Milhous Nixon

[Mini Me]

Any reasonable person would not buy the findings. There is a vested interest in not telling the world that your intelligence agencies were selling arms. You'd lose all credibility on the world stage for your next application for "Coalition of the Willing" membership.

There is enough talk in journalistic circles to know that this was an intelligence operation gone wrong. You may continue to believe as you will and was designed for you to believe. Those of intelligence will understand that the official story stinks to high heavens.

Sure, people screwed up.

But the purpose of the endless Witch Hunts were a smashing success; and that was to knock Hillary down a few pegs, make Obama look bad(as if he needs any help) and feed the Rethuglican Outrage Machine fresh, bloody road kill.

Facts do not matter in these dubious investigations, and Gowdy Doody was hit with the diehard dittoheads. They need a crisis a day, and I can't wait for the next invented debacle to pop up.

[Peter1469]

The CIA said nothing happened here. Move along people.

:smiley:

[Peter1469]

It seems as if the committee chair's wife is on the board of the security company that has a major contract with State- to include the Benghazi mission.

Nothing to see here. Move along sheep.

[Bo-4]

And I imagine you feel that Democrats are somehow different and immune to partisan group think, do you? ((snickers)) OK.

Not me Aly, i just happen to believe our group is less evil!

Pick your poison, would you rather embrace a group who is ridden like rented mules by TeaWads .. or one that at least ATTEMPTS to do the right thing?

Your choice.

[Peter1469]

The Tea Party(ies) is the way out of corruption. They are anti-establishment.

[Codename Section]

Not me Aly, i just happen to believe our group is less evil!

Pick your poison, would you rather embrace a group who is ridden like rented mules by TeaWads .. or one that at least ATTEMPTS to do the right thing?

Your choice.


Who's the group attempting to do the right thing? :roflmao:


But seriously, this was a spook op gone wrong. How do I know? I've done an asston of spook ops. I usually made sure they went right because I'm made out of awesome sauce, but...I'm just saying.

[Codename Section]

Actually, not to too my own horn but pretty much every time my team was sent in somewhere we came back all alive and our mission accomplished. Yeh, I'm like superman only hotter and shit.

[Common]

Actually, not to too my own horn but pretty much every time my team was sent in somewhere we came back all alive and our mission accomplished. Yeh, I'm like superman only hotter and $#@!.

I wish every team was so blessed

[Cigar]

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2014/141124-lindsey-graham-throws-benghazi-temper-tantrum.jpg

House Intelligence Committee's Benghazi Report Torches Conspiracy Theories

WASHINGTON -- Yet another detailed investigation into the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, has refuted claims that there was a coverup or that officials didn't do all they could at the time to save the four Americans killed that night.

The latest findings, released Friday, come from the declassified two-year investigation of the House Intelligence Committee, which conducted an exhaustive probe into the incident, including claims that the White House cooked up phony talking points for then-UN Ambassador Susan Rice.

The report did find that the State Department was unable to protect the facility in eastern Libya where Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed, but also contradicts many of the charges leveled at the Obama administration in the days and years following the attacks.

Among its findings, the report says CIA personnel responded not just well, but heroically; that there was no "stand down" order, as some critics have claimed; there was no intimidation of witnesses by superiors; there was no intelligence failure prior to the attack; and that a "mixed group" of individuals, including some linked to al Qaeda, participated in the attack.

But perhaps the most significant conclusion is its finding that Rice's talking points -- a key focus of the Benghazi Select Committee empaneled by House Speaker John Boehner -- were not part of an attempt to conceal the severity of the incident.

According to the report, early intelligence that the attacks were sparked by an Internet video was "not accurate," but not intentionally so. And the report holds that the process that produced Rice's now-infamous talking points was flawed, resulting in errors rather than deliberate lies. Indeed, the report determined that the CIA had not sorted out the conflicting intelligence until two days after Rice appeared on television claiming the attacks stemmed from a protest.

In a joint statement accompanying the release of the report, Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and the committee's top Democrat, Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.), said its probe was extensive:

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/21/benghazi-intelligence-com_n_6201650.html


Graham: House Benghazi report is ‘full of crap’Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday that a report on the Benghazi attack released late last week is “full of crap.”

The GOP-led House committee’s report found no failures in intelligence in connection with the 2011 attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya and also found that any misinformation released after the attack was accidentally incorrect — not a deliberate attempt to mislead people.

But Mr. Graham, South Carolina Republican, said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that the report is inaccurate and that the House Intelligence Committee that released the report accepted a “bunch of garbage.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/23/graham-house-benghazi-report-full-crap/

[Mr. Right]

It's all ok. Nobody died or was mutilated....

[Cigar]

It's all ok. Nobody died or was mutilated....

Actually NO WRONG-DOINGS by Americans ... are YOU Disappointed? :rollseyes:

[momsapplepie]

Actaually you are wrong. It proves that Hitlery in charge of the State department and foreign security didn't do her job and provide Security when it had been requested, and it also proves that talking points were throw around to divert from the truth of what happened.

[Captain Obvious]

First the ebola thing fizzled, now Behghaaaaaaaaazi!'s a bust.

Wingnuts are fucked.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56528546.jpg

[exotix]

Graham Tantrums = 2016 Prez candidacy



McCain Strongly Encouraging' Lindsey Graham To Consider 2016 Run

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/john-mccain-strongly-encouraging-lindsey-graham-2016-run/story?id=27133340


Sen. John McCain is prodding one of his closest allies in the Senate to consider a run for the White House – Sen. Lindsey Graham.

“I think he is looking at it, and I am strongly encouraging him to take a look at it,” McCain, R-Ariz., told ABC News.

“I know of no one who is better versed and more important on national security policy and defense than Lindsey Graham, and I don’t think these challenges to our security are going away.”

http://i59.tinypic.com/t9gqc1.png

[Bo-4]

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56528546.jpg

Lord Christopher Monckton concurs! :cool:

https://www.freespeech.org/text/birthers-hope-gop-congress-will-launch-obama-birth-certificate-probe

[Bo-4]

Graham Tantrums = 2016 Prez candidacy



McCain Strongly Encouraging' Lindsey Graham To Consider 2016 Run

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/john-mccain-strongly-encouraging-lindsey-graham-2016-run/story?id=27133340

Sen. John McCain is prodding one of his closest allies in the Senate to consider a run for the White House – Sen. Lindsey Graham.

“I think he is looking at it, and I am strongly encouraging him to take a look at it,” McCain, R-Ariz., told ABC News.

“I know of no one who is better versed and more important on national security policy and defense than Lindsey Graham, and I don’t think these challenges to our security are going away.”

Just what we need.. another 3 or 4 wars by the end of 2017. :rolleyes:

[Cigar]

Graham Tantrums = 2016 Prez candidacy



McCain Strongly Encouraging' Lindsey Graham To Consider 2016 Run

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/john-mccain-strongly-encouraging-lindsey-graham-2016-run/story?id=27133340


Sen. John McCain is prodding one of his closest allies in the Senate to consider a run for the White House – Sen. Lindsey Graham.

“I think he is looking at it, and I am strongly encouraging him to take a look at it,” McCain, R-Ariz., told ABC News.

“I know of no one who is better versed and more important on national security policy and defense than Lindsey Graham, and I don’t think these challenges to our security are going away.”

http://i59.tinypic.com/t9gqc1.png



Could we be that Lucky :laugh:

[momsapplepie]

what we don't need is another liar as president. That snipes hitlery right out of AF1 doesn't it?

[exotix]

Just what we need.. another 3 or 4 wars by the end of 2017. :rolleyes:
Could we be that Lucky :laugh:

The Bush neocon stupid-down of America in continuum.

[Bo-4]

Could we be that Lucky :laugh:

Just think.. our first openly gay president! :laughing9:

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/lindseygrahamjohnmccain.jpg

[momsapplepie]

Thought we already had a gay president. I know, let's ask reggie!

[Cigar]

what we don't need is another liar as president. That snipes hitlery right out of AF1 doesn't it?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SNYuVo2F2DU/UlQgxhs_OMI/AAAAAAAAORE/lAcmFsP9Exk/s1600/reagan7.jpg

[Cigar]

Network Sunday Shows Largely Ignore Benghazi Report
Only NBC's Meet The Press Mentioned The New Intelligence Committee Report. Of the major network Sunday talk shows, only NBC's Meet the Press acknowledged the House Intelligence Committee's findings in a brief exchange between host Chuck Todd and Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ). Todd reported that the report was "exculpatory," and found no evidence of wrongdoing or evidence to support conspiracy theories about the attacks:

TODD: Senator Flake, House Republican-led Intelligence Committee released a Benghazi report and basically, it's pretty exculpatory. The key findings: no intelligence failure prior to the attacks; security at CIA facilities were sufficient; yes, security at state department facilities were inadequate; and yes, some of the development of the talking points that Susan Rice used were flawed. But no wrongdoing, none of the conspiracies found. Is it time for the Republicans to drop the Benghazi conspiracy theories?


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http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/11/23/network-sunday-shows-largely-ignore-house-repor/201679

[Bo-4]

Thought we already had a gay president. I know, let's ask reggie!

Lol, nah.. ask Larry Sinclair. You know, the idiot who told us about their cocaine fueled sex romp in a limousine?

Not to worry that he was incarcerated at the time of alleged incident, that he's been convicted of filing false reports OR that he failed three lie detector tests.

It's totally believable! :D

[Professor Peabody]

Both Mike Rogers and Dutch Ruppersberger are members of the Congressional Gang of Eight. They are the ONLY authors. This is not a House Intelligence “Committee” report on Benghazi. This is only two committee members writing a report based on prior information.

They want to frame Benghazi as starting from the moment of the attack, my post shows they had MUCH MORE than ample warning the crap was going to hit the fan. Hillary Clinton's State Dept actually REDUCED security in Benghazi, despite pleas from Ambassador Steven's and others to INCREASE it.

The U.S.S New York was in the Gulf of Aden at the far end of the Red Sea. With all the security warning the Clinton State Dept had, the New York could have been stationed offshore in Benghazi LONG before the attack.

USS New York (LPD-21) - Aircraft carried: Launch or land, two CH-53E Super Stallion, two MV-22B Osprey tiltrotor aircraft, four CH-46 Sea Knight, four AH-1 SeaCobra or four UH-1 Iroquois helicopters.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/AH-1W_Super_Cobra_assigned_to_HMLA_167.jpg/800px-AH-1W_Super_Cobra_assigned_to_HMLA_167.jpg

AH-1 SeaCobra

http://www.phibetaiota.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/benghazi-compound.jpg

Get permission from the new Libyan Government to fly the Cobra's in and out of the Benghazi compound a few time. That would have sent a clear message that we were ready to defend the compound. 2 Sea Cobra's could have made short work of the attackers in that open area.

The New York was in the Gulf of Aden at the far end of the Red Sea. With all the security warning the Clinton State Dept had, the USS New York could have been stationed offshore in Benghazi LONG before the attack and been on site within minutes of the attack starting.

[Peter1469]

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House Intelligence Committee's Benghazi Report Torches Conspiracy Theories

WASHINGTON -- Yet another detailed investigation into the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, has refuted claims that there was a coverup or that officials didn't do all they could at the time to save the four Americans killed that night.

The latest findings, released Friday, come from the declassified two-year investigation of the House Intelligence Committee, which conducted an exhaustive probe into the incident, including claims that the White House cooked up phony talking points for then-UN Ambassador Susan Rice.

The report did find that the State Department was unable to protect the facility in eastern Libya where Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed, but also contradicts many of the charges leveled at the Obama administration in the days and years following the attacks.

Among its findings, the report says CIA personnel responded not just well, but heroically; that there was no "stand down" order, as some critics have claimed; there was no intimidation of witnesses by superiors; there was no intelligence failure prior to the attack; and that a "mixed group" of individuals, including some linked to al Qaeda, participated in the attack.

But perhaps the most significant conclusion is its finding that Rice's talking points -- a key focus of the Benghazi Select Committee empaneled by House Speaker John Boehner -- were not part of an attempt to conceal the severity of the incident.

According to the report, early intelligence that the attacks were sparked by an Internet video was "not accurate," but not intentionally so. And the report holds that the process that produced Rice's now-infamous talking points was flawed, resulting in errors rather than deliberate lies. Indeed, the report determined that the CIA had not sorted out the conflicting intelligence until two days after Rice appeared on television claiming the attacks stemmed from a protest.

In a joint statement accompanying the release of the report, Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and the committee's top Democrat, Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.), said its probe was extensive:

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/21/benghazi-intelligence-com_n_6201650.html


Graham: House Benghazi report is ‘full of crap’

Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday that a report on the Benghazi attack released late last week is “full of crap.”

The GOP-led House committee’s report found no failures in intelligence in connection with the 2011 attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya and also found that any misinformation released after the attack was accidentally incorrect — not a deliberate attempt to mislead people.

But Mr. Graham, South Carolina Republican, said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that the report is inaccurate and that the House Intelligence Committee that released the report accepted a “bunch of garbage.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/23/graham-house-benghazi-report-full-crap/

[Max Rockatansky]

....For all the talk by Republicans about Benghazi! Benghazi! the Truth is now revealed by Republicans that there was no scandal to speak of.......
Nice spin job, but not completely true. Yes, the report exonerates the Obama administration from the conspiracy theories saying they set it up, were illegally supplying arms from Libya to Syria and other actions prior to or during the attack.

It doesn't absolve the Obama Administration of spinning the attack as an impromptu protest over a video when, in reality, it was an al-Qaeda attack. An untimely, for President Obama, al-Qaeda attack both on the anniversary of 9/11 and just weeks before a national election. It doesn't explain why the President's administration tried to spin this attack as being something other than it was in order to protect him prior to a tight election.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30155216

A US investigation has found no wrongdoing by the Obama administration in responding to the deadly 2012 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

The inquiry by the Republican-run House Intelligence Committee also said there was no intelligence failure and no delay in sending a CIA rescue team.

The Obama administration had been accused of mishandling its response.

[Professor Peabody]

Of course Little Lindsey Graham will have none of it! :D

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/23/jeff-flake-benghazi_n_6207358.html?1416760186


Jeff Flake (R)

Senate - Arizona
Voting history (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/F000444/votes/)

Votes with party - 83%

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/F000444

So, this guy's supposed to represent the Party?

[Professor Peabody]

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2014/141124-lindsey-graham-throws-benghazi-temper-tantrum.jpg

House Intelligence Committee's Benghazi Report Torches Conspiracy Theories

WASHINGTON -- Yet another detailed investigation into the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, has refuted claims that there was a coverup or that officials didn't do all they could at the time to save the four Americans killed that night.

The latest findings, released Friday, come from the declassified two-year investigation of the House Intelligence Committee, which conducted an exhaustive probe into the incident, including claims that the White House cooked up phony talking points for then-UN Ambassador Susan Rice.

The report did find that the State Department was unable to protect the facility in eastern Libya where Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed, but also contradicts many of the charges leveled at the Obama administration in the days and years following the attacks.

Among its findings, the report says CIA personnel responded not just well, but heroically; that there was no "stand down" order, as some critics have claimed; there was no intimidation of witnesses by superiors; there was no intelligence failure prior to the attack; and that a "mixed group" of individuals, including some linked to al Qaeda, participated in the attack.

But perhaps the most significant conclusion is its finding that Rice's talking points -- a key focus of the Benghazi Select Committee empaneled by House Speaker John Boehner -- were not part of an attempt to conceal the severity of the incident.

According to the report, early intelligence that the attacks were sparked by an Internet video was "not accurate," but not intentionally so. And the report holds that the process that produced Rice's now-infamous talking points was flawed, resulting in errors rather than deliberate lies. Indeed, the report determined that the CIA had not sorted out the conflicting intelligence until two days after Rice appeared on television claiming the attacks stemmed from a protest.

In a joint statement accompanying the release of the report, Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and the committee's top Democrat, Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.), said its probe was extensive:

More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/21/benghazi-intelligence-com_n_6201650.html


Graham: House Benghazi report is ‘full of crap’

Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday that a report on the Benghazi attack released late last week is “full of crap.”

The GOP-led House committee’s report found no failures in intelligence in connection with the 2011 attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya and also found that any misinformation released after the attack was accidentally incorrect — not a deliberate attempt to mislead people.

But Mr. Graham, South Carolina Republican, said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that the report is inaccurate and that the House Intelligence Committee that released the report accepted a “bunch of garbage.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/23/graham-house-benghazi-report-full-crap/

Hillary Clinton's State Dept actually REDUCED security in Benghazi, despite pleas from Ambassador Steven's and others to INCREASE it. Liberals and Democrats want to frame the Benghazi attack as beginning when the attack did, so there was nothing that could be done. Nothing could be further from the truth. A Benghazi terror plot had been thwarted as far back as 12/2011, a Full 9 months before the attack. Face it Hillary Clinton's State Dept botched the whole Benghazi situation from start to finish as badly as her husband's administration did with 2 years of definitive Intel before the OTHER 9/11 attacks. If she couldn't handle the State Dept well enough to ensure the first American Ambassador killed in the line of duty since 1979 ...WASN'T, why would anyone even dream she could handle being President of the United States?

[Max Rockatansky]

....Get permission from the new Libyan Government to fly the Cobra's in and out of the Benghazi compound a few time. That would have sent a clear message that we were ready to defend the compound. 2 Sea Cobra's could have made short work of the attackers in that open area.

The New York was in the Gulf of Aden at the far end of the Red Sea. With all the security warning the Clinton State Dept had, the USS New York could have been stationed offshore in Benghazi LONG before the attack and been on site within minutes of the attack starting.

The "Republican-run House Intelligence Committee" findings show such actions would not have helped. Sorry, dude, but that's Monday-Morning-Quarterbacking. It takes time to get permission, there is always the danger of "collateral damage" with air attacks (or even ground attacks) and, while two AH-1s would have killed a lot of bad guys, it might also have killed escaping Consulate members, friendlies and innocents.

[Professor Peabody]

The "Republican-run House Intelligence Committee" findings show such actions would not have helped. Sorry, dude, but that's Monday-Morning-Quarterbacking. It takes time to get permission, there is always the danger of "collateral damage" with air attacks (or even ground attacks) and, while two AH-1s would have killed a lot of bad guys, it might also have killed escaping Consulate members, friendlies and innocents.

Are you saying they couldn't get permission to fly the choppers in and out in the 9 months prior to the attacks?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/AH-1W_Super_Cobra_assigned_to_HMLA_167.jpg/800px-AH-1W_Super_Cobra_assigned_to_HMLA_167.jpg

Had 2 of these been making regular flights in and out of the compound in the 2 months before the attacks, there would have been a great deterrent effect. Friendlies have infrared strobes that they can wear to identify themselves as such.

http://www.phibetaiota.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/benghazi-compound.jpg

That's a LARGE open area, anyone wearing a strobe is a don't shoot, anyone who isn't is obviously a hostile. Sorry, dude!

[Max Rockatansky]

Are you saying they couldn't get permission to fly the choppers in and out in the 9 months prior to the attacks?...

How do you know that wasn't requested and refuse?

Are you accusing the Republican dominated House Intelligence Committee of lying? Of deceit? Of incompetence? Who, exactly, are you accusing here?

Furthermore, what is your agenda here? Did you read this post: http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/35276-House-Intel-Committee-report-on-Ben-Ghazi-torches-conspiracy-theories?p=851736&viewfull=1#post851736?

What are you thoughts there?

[Peter1469]

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