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MMC
08-14-2011, 08:54 AM
Is the Obama Adminstration and Democrats Seriously focusing on talking about reducing the DOD? Or are the Democrats blowing smoke on the water as to attempting to go on Campaign with such as a main talking point?

What can Obama say other than the Death of OBL? Under this current Adminstration we are currently dropping bombs on militants in Somalia, Yemen, and Pakistan. 3 countries we are not at war with. Then there is Libya who we are also not at War with. Yet we spending ordinance and money to coordiante these attacks on all these so called militants. Spending money to move satellites and coordinate Air-strikes with drones. Yet we even have the White House Press Secretary stating we don't not even know who all the militant players are in certain regions of the M.E. and Africa.

Certain Republicans will not say anything as all falls in accord with that Neo-Con Agenda. Yet what about these Neo-libs that have no clue as to what is going on with all these differnt Militants that seem to be rising up all over the M.E.(except in Syria)other than the fact that they are Shia and want reform in those Sunni Ruled Countries.

How can we reduce more in the Miltary if this Adminstration is going to keep on okaying attacks into other foreign counties? Plus if we are not going to reduce what is in the SOS Dept, with aspects to Embassies and SOS personell. Including all those Marines attached to all US Embassies?

Barney Frank has stated recently due to the fiscal crisis in the country that his Mantra would be Defense and Military Spending. What about the backing of those NGO'S like in Palestine where we gave the Palestians 98 Million. What about the same with Egypt and whom they have told the US they Will need 40 billion for their up and coming Democratic Election backed by a Full Constitution.

We have Heard this President state about doing the same, yet he is constantly giving the go-ahead on these strikes into these other countries. How can we reduce the military if we have to restock our munitions to current levels? If we are to scale back then shouldn't ALL going on Campaign with the Lord Marshall and even those from the right that advocat such. Be shown what they have been voting for and wasting our money upon. Including with all this Nation Building and Infrastructure legislation being passed by both sides of the Aisle. Which is then tied to our US miltiary doing such.

Who will hold the upper hand when it comes to going on Campaign??? Will Obama and the Democrats play like they are innocent and blame Republicans. Kucinich and other Blue-Dogs have not stopped their legal proceedings with the War Powers Act agaisnt Obama. Clinton-crats are outright questioning Obama in public. We already know the right will be 100% against Obama. But what about his own and all those Independants that he is shooting for? Thoughts?

Conley
08-14-2011, 09:03 AM
Is the Obama Adminstration and Democrats Seriously focusing on talking about reducing the DOD? Or are the Democrats blowing smoke on the water as to attempting to go on Campaign with such as a main talking point?

What can Obama say other than the Death of OBL? Under this current Adminstration we are currently dropping bombs on militants in Somalia, Yemen, and Pakistan. 3 countries we are not at war with. Then there is Libya who we are also not at War with. Yet we spending ordinance and money to coordiante these attacks on all these so called militants. Spending money to move satellites and coordinate Air-strikes with drones. Yet we even have the White House Press Secretary stating we don't not even know who all the militant players are in certain regions of the M.E. and Africa.

Certain Republicans will not say anything as all falls in accord with that Neo-Con Agenda. Yet what about these Neo-libs that have no clue as to what is going on with all these differnt Militants that seem to be rising up all over the M.E.(except in Syria)other than the fact that they are Shia and want reform in those Sunni Ruled Countries.

How can we reduce more in the Miltary if this Adminstration is going to keep on okaying attacks into other foreign counties? Plus if we are not going to reduce what is in the SOS Dept, with aspects to Embassies and SOS personell. Including all those Marines attached to all US Embassies?

Barney Frank has stated recently due to the fiscal crisis in the country that his Mantra would be Defense and Military Spending. What about the backing of those NGO'S like in Palestine where we gave the Palestians 98 Million. What about the same with Egypt and whom they have told the US they Will need 40 billion for their up and coming Democratic Election backed by a Full Constitution.

We have Heard this President state about doing the same, yet he is constantly giving the go-ahead on these strikes into these other countries. How can we reduce the military if we have to restock our munitions to current levels? If we are to scale back then shouldn't ALL going on Campaign with the Lord Marshall and even those from the right that advocat such. Be shown what they have been voting for and wasting our money upon. Including with all this Nation Building and Infrastructure legislation being passed by both sides of the Aisle. Which is then tied to our US miltiary doing such.

Who will hold the upper hand when it comes to going on Campaign??? Will Obama and the Democrats play like they are innocent and blame Republicans. Kucinich and other Blue-Dogs have not stopped their legal proceedings with the War Powers Act agaisnt Obama. Clinton-crats are outright questioning Obama in public. We already know the right will be 100% against Obama. But what about his own and all those Independants that he is shooting for? Thoughts?


Obama has proven to be a liar and a fraud. Harsh words but there is no other way to put.

He simply cannot be believed when he claims the defense budget will be cut. He is responsible for military escalations and entanglements that would make GWB blush. There is no greater indictment of the Left and the Media in this country that the anti-war movement died out when Obama came into office.

Those on the Left should recognize what Independents and the Right already know, that Obama offers nothing but a continuation of a short sighted policy leading this country to ruin in every arena -- job creation (none to speak of), health care (nothing has been done to curtail costs), foreign policy(president can start wars against sovereign nations without the support of Congress), energy security (dependence on foreign oil continuing to skyrocket), civil liberties (extension and enlargement of the Patriot Act, against Net Neutrality).

We cannot survive another four years of this.

MMC
08-16-2011, 04:16 PM
Well this little Trip Obama is taking is nothing more than the Lord Marshall going on campaign. He is doing nothing but blaming Republicans and Boner. He should be in Washington trying to get some spending down. He could start cutting his staff. FDR only had like 140 and he had WWII raging. There are some executive orders he could use to begin reducing some spending.

Plus he has like 745 million already in his war chest.....so get back to work and getr done!

Conley
08-16-2011, 04:31 PM
Well this little Trip Obama is taking is nothing more than the Lord Marshall going on campaign. He is doing nothing but blaming Republicans and Boner. He should be in Washington trying to get some spending down. He could start cutting his staff. FDR only had like 140 and he had WWII raging. There are some executive orders he could use to begin reducing some spending.

Plus he has like 745 million already in his war chest.....so get back to work and getr done!


Exactly...he claims he is not campaigning but he has been spending time in Iowa in his new 1.1 Million Dollar bus.

hellraiser
08-16-2011, 06:58 PM
why is it ok for perry to run in iowa but not obama

perry should be at home in texas right

Juggernaut
08-16-2011, 07:49 PM
why is it ok for perry to run in iowa but not obama

perry should be at home in texas right


It doesn't matter to me where either run at the same time. Its a childish talking point the media use.
Seriously though, people want to know who paid for that bus Obama is using. If the gov then they should sell it back because the people shouldn't fund a bus for either side.

Conley
08-16-2011, 07:55 PM
I am 100% certain that it was paid for with taxpayer dollars. I don't really want private donations paying for it either. How about Obama pays for it himself out of book proceeds? ;D

Juggernaut
08-16-2011, 08:01 PM
BO is expected to raise a billion dollars this cycle, he can afford it and build it to Secret Service standards. Its as big a waste as his eating $100 a pound kobe steaks while whining about Bush every month.

Mister D
08-16-2011, 08:11 PM
BO is expected to raise a billion dollars this cycle, he can afford it and build it to Secret Service standards. Its as big a waste as his eating $100 a pound kobe steaks while whining about Bush every month.


Only extreme partisans could approve of his whining about Bush at this point. There comes a time when he must take responsibility for what happens in his term (hopefully singular).

Juggernaut
08-16-2011, 08:33 PM
BO is expected to raise a billion dollars this cycle, he can afford it and build it to Secret Service standards. Its as big a waste as his eating $100 a pound kobe steaks while whining about Bush every month.


Only extreme partisans could approve of his whining about Bush at this point. There comes a time when he must take responsibility for what happens in his term (hopefully singular).


You'd think so but they see his weak remarks about Bush as reason to hate Bush, too blinded and foolish. A Harvard man should get it, I think he does and he's using Bush and the gop to convince people he's not extreme nor a bad politician. I hope the people are awake this time.

Mister D
08-16-2011, 09:09 PM
BO is expected to raise a billion dollars this cycle, he can afford it and build it to Secret Service standards. Its as big a waste as his eating $100 a pound kobe steaks while whining about Bush every month.


Only extreme partisans could approve of his whining about Bush at this point. There comes a time when he must take responsibility for what happens in his term (hopefully singular).


You'd think so but they see his weak remarks about Bush as reason to hate Bush, too blinded and foolish. A Harvard man should get it, I think he does and he's using Bush and the gop to convince people he's not extreme nor a bad politician. I hope the people are awake this time.


He has lost a lot of independents. That's for sure.

MMC
08-17-2011, 12:00 AM
Anyone get a pic of this bus? Already he is focusing back on that mantra of who people send to Washington. He will continue that play. But I don't understand this I got a plan to put a plan out there.

Conley
08-17-2011, 12:07 AM
Yeah if he has a plan to end unemployment why wait??

MMC
08-17-2011, 01:14 AM
Yeah if he has a plan to end unemployment why wait??


Yeah waking up at the time I do I am just catching up so i have only seen small pieces of his speeches. Why wait to get a plan when he can start with some things like not keeping an open White house going with dinners and parties. He can cut his staff. he can quit taking useless trips around the country to talk about who we send to Washington. Saving all that money for security and media coverage......just a start.

Juggernaut
08-17-2011, 06:52 PM
Obama's bus was made in Canada, WTG team stupid! So much for buy American. What the heck its only a million, BO spends that much on booze, food and entertainment at the whitehouse monthly. Livin high on the peoples money while ranting about the economy.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/canucklehead_obama_bus_ted_gyztvw89k5MyKNS4B7Qp7O

The $1.1 million vehicle, the bought 2, one of two that Quebec-based Prevost sold the government, has been tricked out by the Secret Service with state-of-the-art security features and creature comforts.

It's a VIP H3-45 model, the company's top of the line, and is used by major traveling rock bands.

"That's the more luxurious model," Christine Garant of Prevost told The Post.

Conley
08-17-2011, 06:54 PM
Canadian?!

:thumbsdown21:

edit: "canucklehead" :D

Your_Boss
08-17-2011, 08:53 PM
Obama's bus was made in Canada, WTG team stupid! So much for buy American. What the heck its only a million, BO spends that much on booze, food and entertainment at the whitehouse monthly. Livin high on the peoples money while ranting about the economy.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/canucklehead_obama_bus_ted_gyztvw89k5MyKNS4B7Qp7O

The $1.1 million vehicle, the bought 2, one of two that Quebec-based Prevost sold the government, has been tricked out by the Secret Service with state-of-the-art security features and creature comforts.

It's a VIP H3-45 model, the company's top of the line, and is used by major traveling rock bands.

"That's the more luxurious model," Christine Garant of Prevost told The Post.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tour-bus-made-america/story?id=14324892

The shell (which i assume would be the body) was made in Canada, the rest was supposedly assembled in the U.S.

That's my contribution to this right wing message board for the night.

Mister D
08-17-2011, 08:56 PM
Obama's bus was made in Canada, WTG team stupid! So much for buy American. What the heck its only a million, BO spends that much on booze, food and entertainment at the whitehouse monthly. Livin high on the peoples money while ranting about the economy.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/canucklehead_obama_bus_ted_gyztvw89k5MyKNS4B7Qp7O

The $1.1 million vehicle, the bought 2, one of two that Quebec-based Prevost sold the government, has been tricked out by the Secret Service with state-of-the-art security features and creature comforts.

It's a VIP H3-45 model, the company's top of the line, and is used by major traveling rock bands.

"That's the more luxurious model," Christine Garant of Prevost told The Post.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tour-bus-made-america/story?id=14324892

The shell (which i assume would be the body) was made in Canada, the rest was supposedly assembled in the U.S.

That's my contribution to this right wing message board for the night.


We don't have that many members yet so while ideological balance is not something we can even think about controlling at this point it is certainly something you can help us with. Stick around.

Conley
08-17-2011, 08:58 PM
The bus looks pretty bad ass in that video from ABC.

Yeah, stick around Boss, I get called a Lefty all the time. :D

MMC
08-17-2011, 09:47 PM
Hiya YB.....Welcome to the Rant. Feel free to give a holler. Glad to have you drop on in. :)

Juggernaut
08-31-2011, 07:45 PM
They fly the bus from city to city, its just for show! O0 You'd think they would drive city to city then fly them back to Andrews AFB. BO flyin high on da tax payaa's buck$$$


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb1_1314314885
Apparently President Obama only rode the buses for a couple of miles at a time, spending the rest of the time flying from community to community in Air Force One. What’s more, the buses were flown from stop to stop as well. It’s normal practice for the President’s entire motorcade to be loaded up on cargo planes and flown from destination to destination. The buses were just a new part of that motorcade.

But why wouldn’t the presidential limousine have sufficed? Or one of the other armored vehicles that routinely travel with the President? Apparently because the President wanted the imagery of a bus. And buses are what he got.

Conley
08-31-2011, 08:08 PM
The Ron Paul Blimp is 1000x cooler than the Obama Bus!

wingrider
09-01-2011, 01:18 AM
and Ron Paul is 1 million times cooler than Obama

wingrider
09-01-2011, 04:42 AM
They fly the bus from city to city, its just for show! O0 You'd think they would drive city to city then fly them back to Andrews AFB. BO flyin high on da tax payaa's buck$$$


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb1_1314314885
Apparently President Obama only rode the buses for a couple of miles at a time, spending the rest of the time flying from community to community in Air Force One. What’s more, the buses were flown from stop to stop as well. It’s normal practice for the President’s entire motorcade to be loaded up on cargo planes and flown from destination to destination. The buses were just a new part of that motorcade.

But why wouldn’t the presidential limousine have sufficed? Or one of the other armored vehicles that routinely travel with the President? Apparently because the President wanted the imagery of a bus. And buses are what he got.


me thinks he is trying to emulate Palin.. LOL

Juggernaut
09-08-2011, 03:12 AM
Obama's bus was made in Canada, WTG team stupid! So much for buy American. What the heck its only a million, BO spends that much on booze, food and entertainment at the whitehouse monthly. Livin high on the peoples money while ranting about the economy.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/canucklehead_obama_bus_ted_gyztvw89k5MyKNS4B7Qp7O

The $1.1 million vehicle, the bought 2, one of two that Quebec-based Prevost sold the government, has been tricked out by the Secret Service with state-of-the-art security features and creature comforts.

It's a VIP H3-45 model, the company's top of the line, and is used by major traveling rock bands.

"That's the more luxurious model," Christine Garant of Prevost told The Post.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tour-bus-made-america/story?id=14324892

The shell (which i assume would be the body) was made in Canada, the rest was supposedly assembled in the U.S.

That's my contribution to this right wing message board for the night.


Made in the USA is better. Fyi, this board isn't owned by the right anything, hang around, we slam both parties when they screw up and when the debt grows too fast.

Juggernaut
09-08-2011, 03:16 AM
Wow, didn't know RP had a blimp. Thanks for head up Conley, it reminded me of the Ron Paul coins. When RP dies they'll go up in value.

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/004/Graph/DSCN1595.JPG

http://www.designscomputed.com/coins/rp_all.jpg