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Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:02 AM
If there is interest I could see adding onto this thread, but we'll start with the oldest known worshiped gods, well, it's actually goddesses.
Venus/Ishtar/Isis
It is believed that this is all the same entity. If you view the symbology involved in the worship of this primordial figure you'll note a lot of interesting patterns.
The symbol of Venus looks like this:
http://www.electricyouniverse.com/eye/thumbs/lrg-1567-mother-goddess-great-star-archetype-babylonian-star-of-ishtar-venus-2.jpg
http://image6.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/compositions/106365049/views/1,width=235,height=235,appearanceId=2/Star-Of-Ishtar---Venus-Star-1,-Symbol-of-the-great-Babylonian-Goddess-of-love-Ishtar-(Inanna),-c-Women-s-T-Shirts.jpg
We see this symbol throughout history and used in various bits of modern architecture and modern logos.
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:03 AM
Examples:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/CIA.svg/2000px-CIA.svg.png
PolWatch
11-29-2014, 12:04 AM
Is Ishtar the goddess usually depicted as a statue of a pregnant mother....kinda of mother of the earth figure? Or have I confused her with another?
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:09 AM
Is Ishtar the goddess usually depicted as a statue of a pregnant mother....kinda of mother of the earth figure? Or have I confused her with another?
Yes, she and Isis both are mother figures, but Ishtar is sometimes depicted as pregnant, but mostly just hippy and voluptuous.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LJvh7V7h5mw/UPxyH00rA0I/AAAAAAAAM3I/KpBa2Y3NOrQ/s1600/Ishtar.jpg
Dr. Who
11-29-2014, 12:10 AM
Venus is often associated with the pentagram - the symbol of balance, health and protection.
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:11 AM
This is also Ishtar (taken from an impression)
http://www.matrifocus.com/SAM08/images/ishtar-cow-calf.gif
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:12 AM
Venus is often associated with the pentagram - the symbol of balance, health and protection.
The pentagram is encapsulated within that symbol and technically, they are all the same goddess.
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:14 AM
Note the wings on Isis, very similar
http://www.marketmixegypt.com/shop/images/Papyrus/Small/PP122.jpg
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:16 AM
PolWatch maybe it was venus you were thinking of?
http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/venus-europe.jpg
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:19 AM
The star and pentagram have long been associated with these goddesses, but also the "shell".
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/Images/VenusShellLouvre.jpg
PolWatch
11-29-2014, 12:20 AM
I think it was the first figure you posted. I love archeology and the illustrations of discoveries. I remember thinking how the very earliest statues were of earth mother figures.
Redrose
11-29-2014, 12:22 AM
@PolWatch (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1099) maybe it was venus you were thinking of?
http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/venus-europe.jpg
Geez, looking at those statues makes me want to go out and buy some new bras. lol
side note, I hate that BCE and CE nonsense. BC and AD was fine for centuries until the political correctness whacos in academia started flexing their muscles. IMHO
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:23 AM
Yes the oldest "religious" art is of female goddesses.
PolWatch
11-29-2014, 12:24 AM
Botticelli & Titian both loved Venus as a subject (with shells).
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:26 AM
Julius Caesar believed himself to be a descendant of Venus. The House of the Julii were considered extraordinarily beautiful, sensual people.
PolWatch
11-29-2014, 12:27 AM
The modern slim woman would not be understood or admired at the time of those statues.
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:30 AM
Here is Venus with her "son" Cupid or in Greek, Aphrodite and Eros...
http://www.euratlas.com/Atlas/greece/aphrodite.jpg
To the ancient Romans there were two types of love: amat and cupit. Amat was an ordinary, well-received love. Cupit was "crazy love" and Cupid was considered a demon, something to be feared.
Crazy love was a curse.
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:34 AM
A woman's power was in her ability to make men mad with lust or love, so Venus/Ishtar/Isis were revered and feared because men feared weakness in themselves and to be swept away by these emotions.
Ancient man would worship Venus with his head down.
PolWatch
11-29-2014, 12:34 AM
Jacquetta, Countess Rivers was grandmother of Elizabeth of York and ancestor to all the modern British royals. Her family was supposedly descended from a river goddess (I forget the name) that always sounded vaguely like an English version of Venus. She was actually tried for witchcraft at one time.
Melusina...portrayed at times as a mermaid like creature.
Alyosha
11-29-2014, 12:38 AM
Witchcraft and how does this relate and the symbols?
All magic is light and dark. If the symbol is in a particular direction it means one thing, in another something the reverse. That is why in a black Mass they say the Lord's Prayer backwards to undo it.
Take the star and have it point upwards and you draw to you love and light
http://davidpratt.info/physics/pattern6.jpg
Inverted and draw sexual madness and depravity.
The five pointed star in the middle should always point east, towards dawn. When it doesn't that is a magician or witch's way of wanting to draw dark energy in that direction.
strollingbonez
11-29-2014, 04:33 AM
http://www.hranajanto.com/goddessgallery/pgfx/hecate-400.jpg
hecate goddess of crones and witches......she is said to rule the heavens, the earth and the underground
strollingbonez
11-29-2014, 04:44 AM
which makes my totem the moon of course......
i want this bad....
http://www.ilovesciencestore.com/promos/lunar-meteorite-dust-pendant.html
CaveDog
12-22-2014, 12:58 AM
When I trained under Laurie Cabot (the priestess in Godsmack's "voodoo" video) back in the early 80s Isis was very prominent. Usually Isis would be invoked along with Osiris as the male-female balance is important. The Cabot tradition was very Celtic with Egyptian mysticism mixed in so Isis and Osiris were representative of the God and Goddess.
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