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Ransom
12-13-2014, 02:06 PM
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/71e7f1dd8e28415983afca6916ea9245/manning-sues-defense-dept-gender-treatment


Convicted national security leaker Chelsea Manning asked a federal court Tuesday to order the Defense Department to provide hormone therapy and other treatment for her gender identity condition while she serves her 35-year sentence in military confinement.

I'm sorry....'her'.......'gender identity condition?'


The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, says the Army private formerly known as Bradley Manning is at a high risk of self-castration and suicide unless she receives more focused treatment for gender dysphoria

Gender dysphoria? And 'Chelsea' is what.....an at risk for 'self-castration?'


The Army is providing some treatment but not enough, according to the lawsuit. She is getting psychotherapy from a mental health specialist who lacks the qualifications to treat gender dysphoria, according to the document.

Imagine our Armed Forces not providing a qualified gender dysphoria specialist. Heinous.


Such clear disregard of well-established medical protocols constitutes cruel and unusual punishment," ACLU attorney Chase Strangio said in a statement.

And thus not providing this proper treatment amounts to "a clear disregard of well established protocols that constitutes cruel and unusual punishment?"

I don't think Chelsea is in the neocon camp, one hopes you INNs keep 'her' with you. Finger painting and what not.

Why not the US save some money, allow people to record cause this should be good, hand Chelsea a sharp knife and a bucket.

Alyosha
12-13-2014, 02:08 PM
The time for the sex change was while he was still active in the military and could pay for his own plastic surgery.

Peter1469
12-13-2014, 02:09 PM
For gods sakes. Ransom is right for once.

Although he fell into the PC camp by not calling the prisoner Bradly. Toss Bradly into solitary confinement. His lawsuit might get dismissed for failure to prosecute. :smiley:

This is the example of a frivolous law suit and he and his lawyers ought to be sanctioned for wasting the Courts' time and resources.

Ransom
12-13-2014, 02:12 PM
For gods sakes. Ransom is right for once.

Although he fell into the PC camp by not calling the prisoner Bradly. Toss Bradly into solitary confinement. His lawsuit might get dismissed for failure to prosecute. :smiley:

This is the example of a frivolous law suit and he and his lawyers ought to be sanctioned for wasting the Courts' time and resources.

The 'Chelsea' I tried to put in quotes but no surprised you'd miss that and claim it pc. As well, this is what the military has become, a Roosevelt or Eisenhower I believe would have had Manning shot.

Peter1469
12-13-2014, 02:13 PM
The 'Chelsea' I tried to put in quotes but no surprised you'd miss that and claim it pc. As well, this is what the military has become, a Roosevelt or Eisenhower I believe would have had Manning shot.

Yes the death penalty should have been on the table at his court-martial.

Common
12-13-2014, 02:16 PM
Dear Lord there is HOPE, I actually agree with Ransom on something.
Wheres my buddy aloysha ALY HOPES ALIVE lol

This guy is garbage and taxpayers should NEVER pay for a sex change. This heshe is a traitor

Peter1469
12-13-2014, 02:19 PM
This guy is garbage and taxpayers should NEVER pay for a sex change. This heshe is a traitor

Until he changes his chromosomes the use of the word she is only to humor him.

Mac-7
12-13-2014, 02:35 PM
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/71e7f1dd8e28415983afca6916ea9245/manning-sues-defense-dept-gender-treatment



I'm sorry....'her'.......'gender identity condition?'



Gender dysphoria? And 'Chelsea' is what.....an at risk for 'self-castration?'



Imagine our Armed Forces not providing a qualified gender dysphoria specialist. Heinous.



And thus not providing this proper treatment amounts to "a clear disregard of well established protocols that constitutes cruel and unusual punishment?"

I don't think Chelsea is in the neocon camp, one hopes you INNs keep 'her' with you. Finger painting and what not.

Why not the US save some money, allow people to record cause this should be good, hand Chelsea a sharp knife and a bucket.

just take that drag queen out and shoot him.

then use the money saved to treat wounded warriors.

Ethereal
12-13-2014, 02:59 PM
The treatment of Manning has been deplorable. It should be Cheney in prison, not Manning.

Alyosha
12-13-2014, 03:11 PM
The treatment of Manning has been deplorable. It should be Cheney in prison, not Manning.

True. You're very right about such things. Must be your overly large cerebrum.

Green Arrow
12-13-2014, 03:15 PM
I was inclined to support Manning until all this nonsense about a sex change started. He couldn't just flee to Russia like Snowden, he had to make a big stink about a stupid sex change...

Ethereal
12-13-2014, 06:32 PM
Manning's crime is a mere lark compared to the crimes of the Bush and Obama administrations. Every normal American realizes that Iraq and Afghanistan were both gigantic mistakes. Manning's actions should not be divorced from the larger context of an immoral, criminal war. Twenty years from now, most people living in the west will see him as a hero.

Mac-7
12-13-2014, 08:08 PM
Manning's crime is a mere lark compared to the crimes of the Bush and Obama administrations. Every normal American realizes that Iraq and Afghanistan were both gigantic mistakes. Manning's actions should not be divorced from the larger context of an immoral, criminal war. Twenty years from now, most people living in the west will see him as a hero.

Mistakes?

Yes.

Deliberate treason?

No.

Fry the little fairy.

Codename Section
12-13-2014, 08:59 PM
Mistakes?

Yes.

Deliberate treason?

No.

Fry the little fairy.

When you lie to a nation on purpose and then kill it's young men and women that's treason in my book. A mistake is when you elbow a vase at grandma's house and it falls and breaks. Basically a mistake is anything that costs less to replace than $30.

waltky
05-16-2017, 02:19 AM
Uncle Ferd says s/he looks like an actor inna bad B movie...
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Chelsea Manning to Remain in Army, Receive Health Care Benefits
15 May 2017 - Chelsea Manning will remain on active duty following her release from military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas on May 17, the U.S. Army said Sunday.


Manning will be an unpaid soldier and will be eligible for health care and other benefits, USA Today reported. Army spokesman Dave Foster told the paper that she will remain a private in the Army. "Pvt. Manning is statutorily entitled to medical care while on excess leave in an active duty status, pending final appellate review," Foster said. Manning was granted clemency in the final days of the Obama administration. She thanked former President Obama last Tuesday in her first statement since being granted clemency. "For the first time, I can see a future for myself as Chelsea," she said in the statement. "I can imagine surviving and living as the person who I am and can finally be in the outside world. Freedom used to be something that I dreamed of but never allowed myself to fully imagine."


http://images02.military.com/media/global/newscred/chelsea-manning-1500-10-may-2017-ts600.jpeg
This undated file photo provided by the U.S. Army shows Pfc. Chelsea Manning wearing a wig and lipstick.

Manning, a former intelligence analyst in Iraq, was convicted in 2013 of leaking more than 700,000 secret military and State Department documents and battlefield video to WikiLeaks. She served nearly seven years of her 35-year sentence at Fort Leavenworth. She was known as Bradley Manning before transitioning in prison. Manning, a native of Crescent, Oklahoma, was convicted in a military court martial of 20 counts, including six Espionage Act violations, theft and computer fraud. Manning was acquitted of the most serious charge of aiding the enemy.

Manning acknowledged leaking the materials, saying she wanted to expose the U.S. military's disregard about the effects of war on civilians. She also said she released information that she didn't believe would harm the U.S. Manning was arrested in 2010, and came out as transgender after being sentenced. She filed a transgender rights lawsuit and attempted suicide twice last year, according to her lawyers. Her attorneys said Manning was subjected to violence in prison and argued the military mistreated her by requiring her to serve her sentence in an all-male prison, restricting her physical and mental health care, and not allowing her to wear a feminine-style haircut.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/05/15/chelsea-manning-to-remain-in-army-receive-health-care-benefits.html

Peter1469
05-16-2017, 03:30 AM
Valarie Plame.

waltky
05-17-2017, 08:59 AM
Chelsea Manning freed from military prison...
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/eek.gif Chelsea Manning: Wikileaks source freed from military prison
Wed, 17 May 2017 - The US soldier served seven years for leaking diplomatic and military documents to Wikileaks.


US soldier Chelsea Manning has been released from prison after serving seven years for leaking hundreds of thousands of diplomatic cables and military files to Wikileaks. A US Army spokesperson confirmed to the BBC that she had left Fort Leavenworth military prison in Kansas. Most of what remained of her 35-year sentence was commuted by then-US President Barack Obama in January. Her lawyer earlier said she was excited but likely to be "anxious". "She's ready to finally be able to live as the woman that she is," Nancy Hollander told the BBC. The 29-year-old soldier was born Bradley Manning. A day after she was sentenced to 35 years in prison in 2013, Manning said she had felt female since childhood and wanted to live as a woman called Chelsea. "For the first time, I can see a future for myself as Chelsea," she said in a statement last week ahead of her release. "I can imagine surviving and living as the person who I am and can finally be in the outside world."


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/ACF6/production/_96087244_de74f25d-cac6-4c56-a081-4d859cfcf8ec.jpg
A view of a portion of the United States Disciplinary Barracks complex, where Private Chelsea Manning is being held, is seen at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas

Speaking to the BBC, Manning's friend, the journalist Glenn Greenwald - who was involved in the publication of leaks from Edward Snowden - said she faced a difficult life outside of prison. "She's going to live in a country where the top officials have expressed extreme denunciations of her, condemnations of her, who regard her as a traitor," he said. "But the reality is that if you look back at what it is that she achieved, she revealed unquestionable war crimes, her disclosures led to reforms around the world." President Obama's decision to commute her sentence drew criticism from leading Republicans, including Senator John McCain, who called it a "a grave mistake".

'Back to Maryland'

Manning was convicted of 20 charges in connection with the leaks, including espionage. She was acquitted of the most serious charge, aiding the enemy. She defended the leaking by saying she had wanted to spark a public debate in the US about the role of the military and US foreign policy, but later apologised for "hurting the US", saying she had mistakenly believed she could "change the world for the better". In January she tweeted that she wanted to move to Maryland after being released, a state where she previously lived. On Monday she tweeted: "Two more days until the freedom of civilian life ^_^ Now hunting for private #healthcare like millions of Americans =P". Manning will remain on active army duty while her military court conviction remains under appeal. She will have healthcare benefits but will be unpaid, the army says.

An online campaign set up by her attorney has raised $150,000 (£115,725) to pay for her living expenses for the first year after her release. If the appeal is denied, she could be dishonourably discharged from the army, US media say. Manning was deployed to Iraq as an intelligence analyst when she leaked hundreds of thousands of files to Wikileaks. Included in those files was video footage of an Apache helicopter killing 12 civilians in Baghdad in 2007, and many sensitive messages between US diplomats. Manning twice attempted suicide last year at Fort Leavenworth, a male military prison. She also went on a hunger strike last year, which she ended after the military agreed to provide her with gender transition treatment.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39947602

waltky
05-18-2017, 05:43 AM
Chelsea Manning released from prison...
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Chelsea Manning 'looking forward to so much' after release from prison
Thursday 18th May, 2017 - Army Pvt. Chelsea Manning, spared by presidential clemency from the rest of a 35-year prison term for giving classified materials to anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, stepped out of a military lockup Wednesday and into a future she said she was eager to define.


“I’m figuring things out right now — which is exciting, awkward, fun, and all new for me,” Manning said by email hours after being released from confinement at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, having served seven years behind bars for one of the largest exposing of classified information in U.S. history. “I am looking forward to so much! Whatever is ahead of me is far more important than the past,” added Manning, 29.

Manning’s immediate plans, including living arrangements, remained unclear. The Oklahoma native had previously tweeted that she planned to move to Maryland, where she has an aunt, but her attorneys have cited security concerns in refusing to make public specifics about her release or where she was headed. The Army is allowing her to live where she pleases — still on active duty but under a special, unpaid status. Manning relished her newfound freedom, posting on social media photos of her lunch — “So, (I’m) already enjoying my first hot, greasy pizza,” she declared of the slice of pepperoni — and her feet in sneakers, with the caption, “First steps of freedom!!”

Manning, who is transgender and was known as Bradley Manning before she transitioned in prison, was convicted in 2013 of 20 counts, including six Espionage Act violations, theft and computer fraud. She was acquitted of the most serious charge of aiding the enemy. Manning, a former intelligence analyst in Iraq, has acknowledged leaking the materials, including more than 700,000 military and State Department documents, along with battlefield video. Manning said she wanted to expose what she considered to be the U.S. military’s disregard of the effects of war on civilians and that she released information that she didn’t believe would harm the U.S.

Critics said the leaks laid bare some of the nation’s most sensitive secrets and endangered information sources, prompting the State Department to help some of those people move to protect their safety. Several ambassadors were recalled, expelled or reassigned because of embarrassing disclosures. President Barack Obama’s decision in January to commute Manning’s sentence to about seven years, including the time she spent locked up before being convicted, drew strong criticism from members of Congress and others, with Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan calling the move “just outrageous.” On social media Wednesday, people either hailed her as a courageous hero or denounced her as a traitor.

MORE (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/chelsea-manning-looking-forward-to-so-much-after-release-from-prison/article35013821/?cmpid=rss1)

donttread
05-18-2017, 09:24 AM
For gods sakes. Ransom is right for once.

Although he fell into the PC camp by not calling the prisoner Bradly. Toss Bradly into solitary confinement. His lawsuit might get dismissed for failure to prosecute. :smiley:

This is the example of a frivolous law suit and he and his lawyers ought to be sanctioned for wasting the Courts' time and resources.

Or let him out under our "pleadge to protect whistle blowers

donttread
05-20-2017, 05:33 PM
I was inclined to support Manning until all this nonsense about a sex change started. He couldn't just flee to Russia like Snowden, he had to make a big stink about a stupid sex change...

So support his actions in letting us knowing what our government was up to and disapprove of his wish to have us pay for his sex change. You are allowed to like ine thing a person does and not another. You are even allowed to dislike someone and like one of their actions or vice versa.
If we free Manning he can pay for his owm sex change.

Agent Zero
05-20-2017, 05:38 PM
Uncle Ferd says s/he looks like an actor inna bad B movie...
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif
Chelsea Manning to Remain in Army, Receive Health Care Benefits
15 May 2017 - Chelsea Manning will remain on active duty following her release from military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas on May 17, the U.S. Army said Sunday.
This is what she looks like now.

http://i.imgur.com/RhfapR1.jpg

http://abcnews.go.com/US/chelsea-manning-posts-photo-revealing-woman/story?id=47490580

As far as the surgery, is it really that different than us paying for Melania's next hair job, boob job, or (please!) ass liposuction?

donttread
05-20-2017, 06:25 PM
Manning's crime is a mere lark compared to the crimes of the Bush and Obama administrations. Every normal American realizes that Iraq and Afghanistan were both gigantic mistakes. Manning's actions should not be divorced from the larger context of an immoral, criminal war. Twenty years from now, most people living in the west will see him as a hero.

Along with Snowden and Assange.

Peter1469
05-20-2017, 06:26 PM
He.

donttread
05-20-2017, 06:27 PM
This is what she looks like now.

http://i.imgur.com/RhfapR1.jpg

http://abcnews.go.com/US/chelsea-manning-posts-photo-revealing-woman/story?id=47490580

As far as the surgery, is it really that different than us paying for Melania's next hair job, boob job, or (please!) ass liposuction?


I imagine that looks pretty good to guys that have been in prison for years

Tahuyaman
05-20-2017, 07:35 PM
For gods sakes. Ransom is right for once.

Although he fell into the PC camp by not calling the prisoner Bradly.?.

If one goes through the process of legally changing their name, it's not falling into the PC camp by referring to him.....him by that name. Now, calling him a her qualifies though.


A person born a male, is going to always be a male no matter how much he mutilates his body.

Archer0915
05-20-2017, 08:34 PM
DNA transplant?

Doublejack
05-20-2017, 10:45 PM
Dude want's to cut off his junk ok.

You're still a dude with no junk.

Deal.


Dude will most likely kill himself in a few years anyways.

Captain Obvious
05-20-2017, 10:48 PM
Dude want's to cut off his junk ok.

You're still a dude with no junk.

Deal.

Like most of the lefties around here

Doublejack
05-20-2017, 10:50 PM
Like most of the lefties around here

My junk leans left ..

My junk could beat up your junk.

Captain Obvious
05-20-2017, 11:03 PM
My junk leans left ..

My junk could beat up your junk.

You must be right handed then

:biglaugh:

Doublejack
05-20-2017, 11:10 PM
You must be right handed then

:biglaugh:
Is that what happen over time?


...

Tahuyaman
05-20-2017, 11:41 PM
Like most of the lefties around here


Lol....