Judge declares Obama immigration action unconstitutional

[Common]

I cant say im mad about this, we cant afford more giveaways. Too many americans hurting.

President Barack Obama's new plan to ease the threat of deportation for 4.7 million undocumented immigrants violates the U.S. Constitution, a federal judge found on Tuesday, handing down the first legal ruling against the plan.

The ruling has no immediate impact, with the government saying there was no reason for Judge Arthur Schwab of the Western District of Pennsylvania to address the issue in the case, which concerns 42-year-old Honduran immigrant Elionardo Juarez-Escobar.
Schwab is the first judge to rule on the legality of the plan Obama announced on Nov. 20. The executive action by the Democratic president is opposed by Republicans and is already subject to other legal challenges.
Schwab ruled that the executive action violated the U.S. Constitution's guarantee of separation of powers and the separate "take care clause," which requires the president to faithfully execute laws passed by Congress.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/16/us-usa-courts-immigration-idUSKBN0JU2GX20141216

[Cigar]

I think the GOP should get a Lawyer ... oh wait ... didn't they do that 3 times?

[The Xl]

So we care about the Constitution now, huh?

The enforcement of the Constitution has become a joke, it's totally arbitrary now.

[Polecat]

The plan is going perfectly. Spoiled Americans are being refitted with desperate hungry productive Americans that will serve their new masters without question.

[Common]

The plan is going perfectly. Spoiled Americans are being refitted with desperate hungry productive Americans that will serve their new masters without question.

You hit the nail on the head inadvertently, ill fix it for you. The spoiled greedy corporate pigs want dirt cheap labor that will work for peanuts and keep their mouths shut.

[exotix]

I think the GOP should get a Lawyer ... oh wait ... didn't they do that 3 times?
C'mon now ... who do you think justified torture for Cheney ?


LOL

[Chris]

You hit the nail on the head inadvertently, ill fix it for you. The spoiled greedy corporate pigs want dirt cheap labor that will work for peanuts and keep their mouths shut.

And liberal progressive Democrats are chomping at the bit to provide it.

[Bob]

I just found out but got too late. Watching a good program on inmates TX has executed or will.

Watching about Darlie Routier right now.

[Mac-7]

You hit the nail on the head inadvertently, ill fix it for you. The spoiled greedy corporate pigs want dirt cheap labor that will work for peanuts and keep their mouths shut.

But it's the lib democrat base who are supporting Obama and his policy of flooding America with Mexicans, Arabs, and others.

The Mexicans might work until they qualify for welfare but the Arabs are going to the nearest mosque for their combat orders.

[Cigar]

C'mon now ... who do you think justified torture for Cheney ?


LOL

They are having a difficult few weeks ... :laugh:

[Howey]

I cant say im mad about this, we cant afford more giveaways. Too many americans hurting.

President Barack Obama's new plan to ease the threat of deportation for 4.7 million undocumented immigrants violates the U.S. Constitution, a federal judge found on Tuesday, handing down the first legal ruling against the plan.

The ruling has no immediate impact, with the government saying there was no reason for Judge Arthur Schwab of the Western District of Pennsylvania to address the issue in the case, which concerns 42-year-old Honduran immigrant Elionardo Juarez-Escobar.
Schwab is the first judge to rule on the legality of the plan Obama announced on Nov. 20. The executive action by the Democratic president is opposed by Republicans and is already subject to other legal challenges.
Schwab ruled that the executive action violated the U.S. Constitution's guarantee of separation of powers and the separate "take care clause," which requires the president to faithfully execute laws passed by Congress.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/16/us-usa-courts-immigration-idUSKBN0JU2GX20141216

lol. Bush appointee with a history of slanted decisions, removal from cases for political decisions plus **SHUDDER** the schmuck convicted Tommy Chong! Frikkin commie pinko fag!

Federal judicial service[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arthur_J._Schwab&action=edit&section=2&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]On January 23, 2002, Schwab was nominated by President George W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush) to a seat on the United States District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_District_Court_for_the_Western_Distr ict_of_Pennsylvania) vacated byMaurice B. Cohill, Jr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_B._Cohill,_Jr.). Schwab was confirmed by the United States Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate) on September 13, 2002, and received his commission on September 17, 2002. It was Schwab, who in 2003, presided over the case involving Tommy Chong for conspiracy to distribute drug paraphernalia (bongs), and sentenced him to nine months in federal prison, as well as a hefty financial penalty.
The Cyril Wecht Case[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arthur_J._Schwab&action=edit&section=3&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]Schwab presided over and was eventually removed from the Cyril Wecht (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Wecht) federal trial, a case that caused considerable controversy. The defendant, a prominent Democrat in Pennsylvania, alleged that Judge Schwab was biased and the prosecution was political in nature and sought to have Judge Schwab removed, but was turned down. Among the controversial decisions that Schwab made was seeking to keep the names of jurors anonymous, a tactic usually reserved for criminal cases where the jurors may be in danger. This was overturned by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_J._Schwab#cite_note-Court_rules_names_of_jurors_must_be_public-1) After Judge Schwab declared the original trial a mistrial, he was criticized for not following proper procedures before declaring a mistrial, such as polling the jury which would have determined if the defendant should be retried on all counts or just one. [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_J._Schwab#cite_note-Panel_criticizes_Wecht_judge-2) One month later he was removed from presiding over the retrial. The Appellate court cited a "combative tenor" in the proceedings and hoped for "reduced level of rancor." [3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_J._Schwab#cite_note-Federal_appeals_court_removes_Wecht_judge-3) On May 14, 2009, the new judge in the case tossed out most of the evidence against Wecht stating it was seized under unconstitutional warrants [4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_J._Schwab#cite_note-Judge_tosses_evidence_in_remaining_Wecht_corruptio n_charges-4) On June 2, all charges were dropped against Cyril Wecht.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_J._Schwab#cite_note-Charges_against_Cyril_H._Wecht_to_be_dismissed-5)

[Howey]

But it's the lib democrat base who are supporting Obama and his policy of flooding America with Mexicans, Arabs, and others.

The Mexicans might work until they qualify for welfare but the Arabs are going to the nearest mosque for their combat orders.

lol wut?

What Mexicans and Arabs, Mac-7?

[Mac-7]

lol wut?

What Mexicans and Arabs, @Mac-7 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1014)?

The ones coming across the border from Mexico without visas.

[Howey]

The ones coming across the border from Mexico without visas.

Source?

[Mac-7]

Source?

A source that proves illegal aliens are entering the country illegally along the southern border?

[texan]

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2014/12/16/federal-judge-in-pittsburgh-calls-president-obama-immigration-actions/

The judge was forced to review in a deportation case. The defendent said he should be able to stay since he fathered a child while he was here. Judge reviewed the order and declared it unconstitutional. It will now go to the 3rd circuit court for review. If they rul he cannot make law then it is toast.

This is where our emotions (the rubber) meets the road (the law). We'll see.

Also, Obama is back to his deceitful practices. He is using "memoradums" as a substitute to hide the number of "executive orders" he is issueing. 181 EO's and 232 memorandums are actually = 413, a number greater than everyone since the 1940's or 50's.

Yes he is abusing his powers because he refuses to compromise.

[Mac-7]

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2014/12/16/federal-judge-in-pittsburgh-calls-president-obama-immigration-actions/

The judge was forced to review in a deportation case. The defendent said he should be able to stay since he fathered a child while he was here. Judge reviewed the order and declared it unconstitutional. It will now go to the 3rd circuit court for review. If they rul he cannot make law then it is toast.

This is where our emotions (the rubber) meets the road (the law). We'll see.

Also, Obama is back to his deceitful practices. He is using "memoradums" as a substitute to hide the number of "executive orders" he is issueing. 181 EO's and 232 memorandums are actually = 413, a number greater than everyone since the 1940's or 50's.

Yes he is abusing his powers because he refuses to compromise.

just another example of obumer doing a "Gruber" on dumb Obama voters who believe anything the lib news media tells them.

[Cigar]

http://instigatornews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Sue-590-LA.jpg

[texan]

Probably the most accurate cartoon you have ever posted. Where did you find it www.commonsense.com (http://www.commonsense.com)?

[Mac-7]

Probably the most accurate cartoon you have ever posted. Where did you find it www.commonsense.com (http://www.commonsense.com)?

The cartoon is out of character for an Obama apologist like Cigar.

Is he switching sides?

Nah, that will never happen.

So the next answer is that Cigar is proud that his black golfer in chief can burn the US Constitution and get away with it.

[Common]

Im curious to know because I do not, can another president sing EOs to overturn the previous presidents EOs. Im guessing yes, but to my memory no one has ever done it.

[Mac-7]

Im curious to know because I do not, can another president sing EOs to overturn the previous presidents EOs. Im guessing yes, but to my memory no one has ever done it.

Yes, of course he can.

[Howey]

As I stated in the other thread (Why start a new one?) this judge has a history of biased rulings and being removed from cases. His "opinion" on this matter means nothing.

[hanger4]

As I stated in the other thread (Why start a new one?) this judge has a history of biased rulings and being removed from cases. His "opinion" on this matter means nothing.

Impeach him or STFU.

[Howey]

The ones coming across the border from Mexico without visas.

Do you mean the recent (past year) influx?

No, they weren't Mexicans. In fact, the number of Mexicans immigrating illegally has decreased since Obama was elected.

http://www.cfr.org/immigration/us-child-migrant-influx/p33380

Who are the migrants and where do they come from?

The child migrants are predominantly boys (estimates range from 60 to 75 percent) in their teens, but Pew Research Center has found that children under twelve—often sent with older siblings or smugglers—represent a growing proportion (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/22/children-12-and-under-are-fastest-growing-group-of-unaccompanied-minors-at-u-s-border/) of unaccompanied minors. Three-quarters of unaccompanied minors are from the Central American Northern Triangle—Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala; as recently as 2009, 82 percent of apprehended minors (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/undocumented-unaccompanied-facts-figures-children-border-n152221) came from Mexico. Among the Central Americans, Hondurans represent the largest group, making up 28.6 percent (http://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-border-unaccompanied-children) of the total.

Not only that, but the overall share of illegal immigrants, after reaching unprecendented highs during the Bush Administration and despite the recent small surge, has actually decreased since Obama took office.

http://i.imgur.com/1Ti7SrD.png



But I get your confusion.

They were all brown, how were you to know?

[Mac-7]

Do you mean the recent (past year) influx?

No, they weren't Mexicans. In fact, the number of Mexicans immigrating illegally has decreased since Obama was elected.

http://www.cfr.org/immigration/us-child-migrant-influx/p33380

Who are the migrants and where do they come from?

The child migrants are predominantly boys (estimates range from 60 to 75 percent) in their teens, but Pew Research Center has found that children under twelve—often sent with older siblings or smugglers—represent a growing proportion (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/22/children-12-and-under-are-fastest-growing-group-of-unaccompanied-minors-at-u-s-border/) of unaccompanied minors. Three-quarters of unaccompanied minors are from the Central American Northern Triangle—Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala; as recently as 2009, 82 percent of apprehended minors (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/undocumented-unaccompanied-facts-figures-children-border-n152221) came from Mexico. Among the Central Americans, Hondurans represent the largest group, making up 28.6 percent (http://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-border-unaccompanied-children) of the total.

Not only that, but the overall share of illegal immigrants, after reaching unprecendented highs during the Bush Administration and despite the recent small surge, has actually decreased since Obama took office.

http://i.imgur.com/1Ti7SrD.png



But I get your confusion.

They were all brown, how were you to know?

Sure, ok, brown people who speak Spanish from Mexico and Central America.

The lousy Obama economy has helped slow the invasion recently but it is far from stopped.

[Howey]

Sure, ok, brown people who speak Spanish from Mexico and Central America.

The lousy Obama economy has helped slow the invasion recently but it is far from stopped.

So you're finally admitting you're a bigot. Good.

By the way, were you also aware deportations under Obama have increased too?

[Peter1469]

As I stated in the other thread (Why start a new one?) this judge has a history of biased rulings and being removed from cases. His "opinion" on this matter means nothing.

Post a link to the other thread and they will be merged.

[Howey]

Post a link to the other thread and they will be merged.
Peter1469 and PolWatch http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/36403-Judge-declares-Obama-immigration-action-unconstitutional/page2?highlight=arthur+schwab

[Peter1469]

Notice: Duplicate threads merged

[Professor Peabody]

Im curious to know because I do not, can another president sing EOs to overturn the previous presidents EOs. Im guessing yes, but to my memory no one has ever done it.

There is NO executive Order.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

[Professor Peabody]

Impeach him or STFU.

It's headed to the SCOTUS anyway.

[hanger4]

There is NO executive Order.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

That'll crush cigar he just learned how to spell EO.