Police officer doesn't kill perp with AR15

[Peter1469]

Police officer doesn't kill perp with AR15 (http://6abc.com/442583/)

The nogoodnick was firing his AR 15 into the air and a police officer responded alone. He was able to subdue the bad guy without firing a shot. But he was former Army infantry. This was last week.


With the controversy over excessive use of force by police one of the dominant topics of conversation in this country, the Philadelphia police wanted to make sure that everyone is well aware of what happened Wednesday in North Philadelphia, a case of police restraint.

[Max Rockatansky]

"I immediately announced 'police, drop the weapon.' About the second time I yelled it, he was just looking over his right shoulder. As he looked over his right shoulder, I was in 8 to 10 feet of him. I think he realized me coming out of nowhere, I had the drop on him and he immediately dropped his weapon," Berg said.

A key factor is Barnes didn't point his weapon at a police officer. If he had, I have little doubt Barnes would have been shot.

Let's also not forget that there are about 750,000 police officers in this country spread across about 35,000 towns and cities. Local customs, budgets and attitudes contribute greatly to differences in how police respond to problems.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/csllea08.pdf

http://www.ask.com/geography/many-cities-united-states-cfb3be08284e6a62

[ace's n 8's]

A key factor is Barnes didn't point his weapon at a police officer. If he had, I have little doubt Barnes would have been shot.

Let's also not forget that there are about 750,000 police officers in this country spread across about 35,000 towns and cities. Local customs, budgets and attitudes contribute greatly to differences in how police respond to problems.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/csllea08.pdf

http://www.ask.com/geography/many-cities-united-states-cfb3be08284e6a62Spoken like a real champ.

[Common]

A key factor is Barnes didn't point his weapon at a police officer. If he had, I have little doubt Barnes would have been shot.

Let's also not forget that there are about 750,000 police officers in this country spread across about 35,000 towns and cities. Local customs, budgets and attitudes contribute greatly to differences in how police respond to problems.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/csllea08.pdf

http://www.ask.com/geography/many-cities-united-states-cfb3be08284e6a62

The size of the pd the amount of crime they deal with has just as much to do with it or more

[Crepitus]

Pretty sad when the police make the news for not shooting somebody.

[Peter1469]

Pretty sad when the police make the news for not shooting somebody.

It was the point of the article. Not all police officers have to kill perps with guns.

[PolWatch]

Pretty sad when the police make the news for not shooting somebody.

True, but the majority of criminals are arrested without anyone dying...which is one reason I believe we need to look at the deaths very closely. If the majority of arrests don't require that anyone die, why do some end so badly?

[Mac-7]

The perfect world comes after you die, not before.

And even then not for everyone.

[Crepitus]

It was the point of the article. Not all police officers have to kill perps with guns.
The sad part is they felt this needed to be reported on.

[PolWatch]

The sad part is they felt this needed to be reported on.

PR...I can't blame them...the good cops who do their job without shooting children are being judged along with the bad ones. I believe we all need to remember that not all cops are so fast to shoot people.

[gchamblee]

It was the point of the article. Not all police officers have to kill perps with guns.

The point of the article is if you dont attack a police officer you're less likely to get shot. However, some people will always blame the cops for defending themselves and nothing will ever change their unfair judgement of cops.

[Max Rockatansky]

The size of the pd the amount of crime they deal with has just as much to do with it or more

The amount of crime is a factor. It's one thing to be Andy Taylor in Mayberry and another to be an inner city cop working the shit holes in bastions of liberalism like Chicago, LA and New York.

[Peter1469]

The point of the article is if you dont attack a police officer you're less likely to get shot. However, some people will always blame the cops for defending themselves and nothing will ever change their unfair judgement of cops.

Incorrect.

[Bo-4]

Well good for him, perhaps he could go into the cop training business?

Might be worth noting that i drove to the supermarket yesterday and didn't kill anyone. Do i get a ribbon or something? ;-)

[Max Rockatansky]

The point of the article is if you dont attack a police officer you're less likely to get shot. However, some people will always blame the cops for defending themselves and nothing will ever change their unfair judgement of cops.

I tend to agree. The difference between this incident and Michael Brown's is Brown attacked a police officer.

While some police are in the wrong or overzealous, most police shootings, as the most recent in in St. Louis shows, are justified shootings in the name of the law.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-missouri-shot-killed-man-pulled-gun-084531706.html
Berkeley Mayor Theodore Hoskins said surveillance footage appeared to show Martin pulling a gun on the unidentified 34-year-old officer who questioned him and another man about a theft at a convenience store.

.....St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar did not provide more details about the theft Martin was being asked about. He said Martin pulled a loaded 9mm handgun and the officer fired three shots while stumbling backward. One hit Martin, who didn't fire his own gun. He died at the scene.

[Professor Peabody]

In 2009 there were 13,689,220 arrests made (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/aus8009.pdf) for varying criminal offesnses. That same year there were 497 deaths (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ard0309st.pdf) at the hands of Police. That works out to 0.003%

[domer76]

Well good for him, perhaps he could go into the cop training business?

Might be worth noting that i drove to the supermarket yesterday and didn't kill anyone. Do i get a ribbon or something? ;-)

Sometimes, when I'm IN the supermarket I feel like killing someone! Or, at least, strangling them!

[Redrose]

I'm sure if he had lowered the weapon towards the officer, he'd be killed.

[zelmo1234]

It is very apparent that the perp was smart enough to not point the weapon at the officer.

This was the difference.

The usual cop hating suspects are trying to make this the same situation as those that completed the triangle

[Max Rockatansky]

In 2009 there were 13,689,220 arrests made (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/aus8009.pdf) for varying criminal offesnses. That same year there were 497 deaths (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ard0309st.pdf) at the hands of Police. That works out to 0.003%

A fact too many cop-haters are anxious to overlook.

[Common]

A fact too many cop-haters are anxious to overlook.

They dont want to hear anything positive they want all negative to make themselves right.

You cant rant and rage away truth and heres one, no matter what the police arent going away.

[Peter1469]

The OP:

With the controversy over excessive use of force by police one of the dominant topics of conversation in this country, the Philadelphia police wanted to make sure that everyone is well aware of what happened Wednesday in North Philadelphia, a case of police restraint.