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Shoot the Goose
06-07-2012, 03:24 PM
This is crazy.



Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious

(CNSNews.com) – Attorney General Eric Holder claimed during congressional testimony today that internal Justice Department emails that use the phrase “Fast and Furious” do not refer to the controversial gun-walking operation Fast and Furious.

Under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who read excerpts of the emails at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Justice Department oversight, Holder claimed that the phrase “Fast and Furious” did not refer to Fast and Furious but instead referred to another gun-walking operation known as “Wide Receiver.”


However, the emails refer to both programs -- "Fast and Furious" and the "Tucson case," from where Wide Receiver was launched -- and reveal Justice Department officials discussing how to handle media scrutiny when both operations become public.

Among three of the emails (see Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf (http://thepoliticalforums.com/sites/default/files/documents/Jason Weinstein Email Fast%2C Furious.pdf)), the second, dated “October 17, 2010 11:07 PM,” was sent by Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein to James Trusty and it states: “Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed? It’s a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked, but it is a significant set of prosecutions.”


In the third email, dated Oct. 18, 2010, James Trusty writes back to Weinstein: “I think so, but the timing will be tricky, too. Looks like we’ll be able to unseal the Tucson case sooner than the Fast and Furious (although this may be just the difference between Nov. and Dec).”

“It’s not clear how much we’re involved in the main F and F [Fast and Furious] case,” reads the email, “but we have Tucson [Wide Receiver] and now a new unrelated case with [redacted] targets. It’s not any big surprise that a bunch of US guns are being used in MX [Mexico], so I’m not sure how much grief we get for ‘guns walking.’ It may be more like ‘Finally, they’re going after people who sent guns down there.’” (See Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf (http://thepoliticalforums.com/sites/default/files/documents/Jason Weinstein Email Fast%2C Furious.pdf))

Operation Wide Receiver was run out of Tucson, Ariz., between 2006 and 2007 by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), a division of the Justice Department.

In his testimony, Holder said that the emails only referred to Operation Wide Receiver.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/holder-claims-emails-using-words-fast-and-furious-don-t-refer-operation-fast-and


And he said it all with a straight face.

Smartmouthwoman
06-07-2012, 03:48 PM
Wonder if he *winked* when he said it?

Deadwood
06-07-2012, 03:53 PM
This is crazy.



And he said it all with a straight face.

Ah, yeah. Sort of like "Yes, I shot the sheriff but I didn't mean it?

This guy is a criminal.

MMC
06-07-2012, 03:53 PM
Looks like that pressure is starting to get to him. Then he put himself on front street with the Walker recall.

URF8
06-07-2012, 05:05 PM
Holder isn't a very good liar.

Shoot the Goose
06-07-2012, 05:29 PM
Here's a video link. Not on You-Tube yet. Unbelievable.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV?id={07E222FC-1A04-4FE6-BAEC-0D68723FBA4A}&title=Holder-Claims-Emails-Have-Nothing-To-Do-With-Fast-Furious
(http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV?id={07E222FC-1A04-4FE6-BAEC-0D68723FBA4A}&title=Holder-Claims-Emails-Have-Nothing-To-Do-With-Fast-Furious)
Bald-face lying. Like its nothing.

Frogger
06-07-2012, 09:43 PM
Holder isn't a very good liar.

He's an even worse Attorney General.

Trinnity
06-08-2012, 09:43 AM
He's a bold-faced lying sack-o-shit. He's defied a congressional subpoena.
He's got a contempt of Congress smackdown coming his way in the next few weeks, according to Darrell Issa.
Amazing that the Head of the DOJ is himself corrupt.

This was all a attempt to set the stage for Obama demanding more gun control. Oops, another FAIL.

I think he will LOSE re-election.

Deadwood
06-08-2012, 09:57 AM
He's a bold-faced lying sack-o-shit. He's defied a congressional subpoena.
He's got a contempt of Congress smackdown coming his way in the next few weeks, according to Darrell Issa.
Amazing that the Head of the DOJ is himself corrupt.

This was all a attempt to set the stage for Obama demanding more gun control. Oops, another FAIL.

I think he will LOSE re-election.

He should....but does this sordid little death squad scandal have the traction necessary for the voters to be as repulsed as they should. If this were any other president, this would be front page every day...ala Contra Arms deals.

In this case American law enforcement officers died because of the negligence woven into the very fabric of this program. It was a malignant idea in the first place. It was ill-conceived, incompetently run and is now being arrogantly covered up.

Cigar
06-08-2012, 10:57 AM
You guys need to get a room :)