View Full Version : Big Tobacco sues feds over graphic warnings on cigarette labels
Mister D
08-17-2011, 07:53 AM
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the tobacco companies on ths one.
COLUMBIA, South Carolina — Tobacco companies want a judge to put a stop to new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and pictures of diseased lungs, saying they unfairly urge adults to shun their legal products and will cost millions to produce.
Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights.
"Never before in the United States have producers of a lawful product been required to use their own packaging and advertising to convey an emotionally-charged government message urging adult consumers to shun their products," the companies wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171861/ns/health-cancer/
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the tobacco companies on ths one.
COLUMBIA, South Carolina — Tobacco companies want a judge to put a stop to new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and pictures of diseased lungs, saying they unfairly urge adults to shun their legal products and will cost millions to produce.
Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights.
"Never before in the United States have producers of a lawful product been required to use their own packaging and advertising to convey an emotionally-charged government message urging adult consumers to shun their products," the companies wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171861/ns/health-cancer/
Yeah I heard about this on my way into work.....still what other product kills 80 % of their own customers?
Mister D
08-17-2011, 10:31 AM
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the tobacco companies on ths one.
COLUMBIA, South Carolina — Tobacco companies want a judge to put a stop to new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and pictures of diseased lungs, saying they unfairly urge adults to shun their legal products and will cost millions to produce.
Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights.
"Never before in the United States have producers of a lawful product been required to use their own packaging and advertising to convey an emotionally-charged government message urging adult consumers to shun their products," the companies wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171861/ns/health-cancer/
Yeah I heard about this on my way into work.....still what other product kills 80 % of their own customers?
Only about a 1/3 of smokers have their lives cut short by smoking. Or at least that's how I understand it. In any case, what's next? Graphic depictions of clogged arteries and heart disease on your pizza box? How about a diseased heart on your next Whopper wrapper?
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the tobacco companies on ths one.
COLUMBIA, South Carolina — Tobacco companies want a judge to put a stop to new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and pictures of diseased lungs, saying they unfairly urge adults to shun their legal products and will cost millions to produce.
Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights.
"Never before in the United States have producers of a lawful product been required to use their own packaging and advertising to convey an emotionally-charged government message urging adult consumers to shun their products," the companies wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171861/ns/health-cancer/
Yeah I heard about this on my way into work.....still what other product kills 80 % of their own customers?
Only about a 1/3 of smokers have their lives cut short by smoking. Or at least that's how I understand it. In any case, what's next? Graphic depictions of clogged arteries and heart disease on your pizza box? How about a diseased heart on your next Whopper wrapper?
That or what your liver looks like with alcohol poisoning.....Plus politicans always get to raise those taxes. Wonder what would happen if all the Cigarette Companies were put out of buisness. Means people would have to grow their own and back to natural Vendors and tobacco thats not made with wine chcocalte and other addictive substances.
Mister D
08-17-2011, 11:49 AM
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the tobacco companies on ths one.
COLUMBIA, South Carolina — Tobacco companies want a judge to put a stop to new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and pictures of diseased lungs, saying they unfairly urge adults to shun their legal products and will cost millions to produce.
Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights.
"Never before in the United States have producers of a lawful product been required to use their own packaging and advertising to convey an emotionally-charged government message urging adult consumers to shun their products," the companies wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171861/ns/health-cancer/
Yeah I heard about this on my way into work.....still what other product kills 80 % of their own customers?
Only about a 1/3 of smokers have their lives cut short by smoking. Or at least that's how I understand it. In any case, what's next? Graphic depictions of clogged arteries and heart disease on your pizza box? How about a diseased heart on your next Whopper wrapper?
That or what your liver looks like with alcohol poisoning.....Plus politicans always get to raise those taxes. Wonder what would happen if all the Cigarette Companies were put out of buisness. Means people would have to grow their own and back to natural Vendors and tobacco thats not made with wine chcocalte and other addictive substances.
A vibrant undergrund industry would probaby develop.
Mister D
08-17-2011, 11:49 AM
Also, tobacco contains addictive chemicals regardless.
Conley
08-17-2011, 11:51 AM
This is absurd. I'm no fan of smoking but these labels sound ridiculous. Yeah, alcohol is a huge public health issue, but I don't see the government pushing labels on bottles.
This is absurd. I'm no fan of smoking but these labels sound ridiculous. Yeah, alcohol is a huge public health issue, but I don't see the government pushing labels on bottles.
Next-up Herscheys Bars with rotting Teeth and gingvitis..... >:D
Conley
08-17-2011, 01:19 PM
This is absurd. I'm no fan of smoking but these labels sound ridiculous. Yeah, alcohol is a huge public health issue, but I don't see the government pushing labels on bottles.
Next-up Herscheys Bars with rotting Teeth and gingvitis..... >:D
Yeah! Candy kills children by leading to obesity which causes heart disease! Baby Murderers! We need Big Government to step in and protect us from ourselves. ::)
Mister D
08-17-2011, 02:09 PM
This is absurd. I'm no fan of smoking but these labels sound ridiculous. Yeah, alcohol is a huge public health issue, but I don't see the government pushing labels on bottles.
Next-up Herscheys Bars with rotting Teeth and gingvitis..... >:D
Yeah! Candy kills children by leading to obesity which causes heart disease! Baby Murderers! We need Big Government to step in and protect us from ourselves. ::)
Mind you, I think smoking is a dumb habit and I certainly don't encourage it but this is going too far. I don't want government agencies trying to manipulate me even if they think its for my own good.
Conley
08-17-2011, 02:22 PM
And yet the government makes so much money off these cigarettes...conflict of interest? If they got everyone to quit there would be a big money drain.
Mister D
08-17-2011, 02:24 PM
And yet the government makes so much money off these cigarettes...conflict of interest? If they got everyone to quit there would be a big money drain.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they figure fed and state governments will save money overall with the healthcare savings. ???
Then they will switch it to Gambling Casinos.....in which they will spend the money before the first dime is collected.
freecell
08-17-2011, 11:30 PM
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the tobacco companies on ths one.
COLUMBIA, South Carolina — Tobacco companies want a judge to put a stop to new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and pictures of diseased lungs, saying they unfairly urge adults to shun their legal products and will cost millions to produce.
Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights.
"Never before in the United States have producers of a lawful product been required to use their own packaging and advertising to convey an emotionally-charged government message urging adult consumers to shun their products," the companies wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171861/ns/health-cancer/
Yeah I heard about this on my way into work.....still what other product kills 80 % of their own customers?
Only about a 1/3 of smokers have their lives cut short by smoking. Or at least that's how I understand it. In any case, what's next? Graphic depictions of clogged arteries and heart disease on your pizza box? How about a diseased heart on your next Whopper wrapper?
Yep, I smoke and know the risk. Pizza box, whopper, all the same. Yes, I already have heart disease from birth.
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the tobacco companies on ths one.
COLUMBIA, South Carolina — Tobacco companies want a judge to put a stop to new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and pictures of diseased lungs, saying they unfairly urge adults to shun their legal products and will cost millions to produce.
Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights.
"Never before in the United States have producers of a lawful product been required to use their own packaging and advertising to convey an emotionally-charged government message urging adult consumers to shun their products," the companies wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171861/ns/health-cancer/
Yeah I heard about this on my way into work.....still what other product kills 80 % of their own customers?
Only about a 1/3 of smokers have their lives cut short by smoking. Or at least that's how I understand it. In any case, what's next? Graphic depictions of clogged arteries and heart disease on your pizza box? How about a diseased heart on your next Whopper wrapper?
Yep, I smoke and know the risk. Pizza box, whopper, all the same. Yes, I already have heart disease from birth.
Hiya FC.....good to see ya. :) Yep I smoke too. All the same. Did I mention I live in Chicago.....lots of Pizza. lol :D
I probably eat over 50 lbs of Pizza in a year.....I got lucky. I don't keep the weight. Then throw in the Meatball Sandwiches, Italian Sausage and the Red Meat.
Conley
08-17-2011, 11:38 PM
>:( Y'all making me HUNGRY!! :D
>:( Y'all making me HUNGRY!! :D
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Mmmmmm Stuffed Shells..... >:D
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Mmmmmm Italian Meatballs..... >:D
As I hears it you still got some dogs round there.....still! :-* :D
Conley
08-17-2011, 11:57 PM
:D MutherFer...yeah, I prolly got about 18 or so left. I was thinking about making chili with em. Prolly eat a couple tonight as I'm getting a bit sauced. ;D
Conley
08-17-2011, 11:58 PM
I took D's advice and instead of drinking every night of the week now I just save it all up for one night. ;)
freecell
08-18-2011, 12:13 AM
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the tobacco companies on ths one.
COLUMBIA, South Carolina — Tobacco companies want a judge to put a stop to new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and pictures of diseased lungs, saying they unfairly urge adults to shun their legal products and will cost millions to produce.
Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights.
"Never before in the United States have producers of a lawful product been required to use their own packaging and advertising to convey an emotionally-charged government message urging adult consumers to shun their products," the companies wrote in the lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44171861/ns/health-cancer/
Yeah I heard about this on my way into work.....still what other product kills 80 % of their own customers?
Only about a 1/3 of smokers have their lives cut short by smoking. Or at least that's how I understand it. In any case, what's next? Graphic depictions of clogged arteries and heart disease on your pizza box? How about a diseased heart on your next Whopper wrapper?
Yep, I smoke and know the risk. Pizza box, whopper, all the same. Yes, I already have heart disease from birth.
Hiya FC.....good to see ya. :) Yep I smoke too. All the same. Did I mention I live in Chicago.....lots of Pizza. lol :D
I probably eat over 50 lbs of Pizza in a year.....I got lucky. I don't keep the weight. Then throw in the Meatball Sandwiches, Italian Sausage and the Red Meat.
LOL I try to stay away from Pizza. Dern Dr. gets on me about things. Have to admit I have always loved Pizza. Both my parents died of massive heart-attacks. I do try and eat right even though I still only weigh 128lbs and 5 '71/2". It's a shame before I reached 45 I could eat anything without any warning signs.
Conley
08-18-2011, 12:17 AM
sorry bout yer folks...that sounds like a very healthy weight so you must be taking care of yourself more than a lot of people i see
freecell
08-18-2011, 12:21 AM
sorry bout yer folks...that sounds like a very healthy weight so you must be taking care of yourself more than a lot of people i see
To be honest I just got another bad report. I have never in my life been over 130lbs. Guess I need to work out more.
Conley
08-18-2011, 12:27 AM
sorry bout yer folks...that sounds like a very healthy weight so you must be taking care of yourself more than a lot of people i see
To be honest I just got another bad report. I have never in my life been over 130lbs. Guess I need to work out more.
I'm sorry to hear that. :(
Seems a few of our folks are having some medical problems, you are all in my thoughts and prayers. Take care of yourselves and God Bless!
sorry bout yer folks...that sounds like a very healthy weight so you must be taking care of yourself more than a lot of people i see
To be honest I just got another bad report. I have never in my life been over 130lbs. Guess I need to work out more.
:D I can't tell FC you will have to put on one of those bikinni's and high heels. ;D >:D
Wish I was from Missouri.....then I could say I am from the Show Me State. lol :P
:D MutherFer...yeah, I prolly got about 18 or so left. I was thinking about making chili with em. Prolly eat a couple tonight as I'm getting a bit sauced. ;D
lol :D What did ya thinks I forgots. You off work tonight bro? I got to leave round 2 am to head to the warehouse.
Conley
08-18-2011, 12:48 AM
:D MutherFer...yeah, I prolly got about 18 or so left. I was thinking about making chili with em. Prolly eat a couple tonight as I'm getting a bit sauced. ;D
lol :D What did ya thinks I forgots. You off work tonight bro? I got to leave round 2 am to head to the warehouse.
Yep I am taking some time off. I can't do the math...2 am your time is midnight here I think.
Conley
08-18-2011, 12:49 AM
:D and yeah I was hoping you forgot and I had kind of forgotten myself about those little devils stuck in the back of the freezer.
freecell
08-18-2011, 12:57 AM
sorry bout yer folks...that sounds like a very healthy weight so you must be taking care of yourself more than a lot of people i see
To be honest I just got another bad report. I have never in my life been over 130lbs. Guess I need to work out more.
:D I can't tell FC you will have to put on one of those bikinni's and high heels. ;D >:D
Wish I was from Missouri.....then I could say I am from the Show Me State. lol :P
LOL MMC
:D MutherFer...yeah, I prolly got about 18 or so left. I was thinking about making chili with em. Prolly eat a couple tonight as I'm getting a bit sauced. ;D
lol :D What did ya thinks I forgots. You off work tonight bro? I got to leave round 2 am to head to the warehouse.
Yep I am taking some time off. I can't do the math...2 am your time is midnight here I think.
1 am your time I thought.....its going on 1 am here so Midnight by you right?
freecell
08-18-2011, 01:03 AM
sorry bout yer folks...that sounds like a very healthy weight so you must be taking care of yourself more than a lot of people i see
To be honest I just got another bad report. I have never in my life been over 130lbs. Guess I need to work out more.
I'm sorry to hear that. :(
Seems a few of our folks are having some medical problems, you are all in my thoughts and prayers. Take care of yourselves and God Bless!
Thank you. My Dad died at the age of 59. I am not far from that. Most in their 40s. As a Christian I am not afraid of dying. It's more of a peaceful beginning than an end.
sorry bout yer folks...that sounds like a very healthy weight so you must be taking care of yourself more than a lot of people i see
To be honest I just got another bad report. I have never in my life been over 130lbs. Guess I need to work out more.
I'm sorry to hear that. :(
Seems a few of our folks are having some medical problems, you are all in my thoughts and prayers. Take care of yourselves and God Bless!
Thank you. My Dad died at the age of 59. I am not far from that. Most in their 40s. As a Christian I am not afraid of dying. It's more of a peaceful beginning than an end.
Sorry to hear that FC.....my prayers and thoughts are with you!!!!! :)
You will be okay.....
Course I also heard that if you wear bikinnis and high-heels it keeps you in your youth. :D >:D
Guess us guys arent included in that study..... :D
Conley
08-18-2011, 10:23 PM
sorry bout yer folks...that sounds like a very healthy weight so you must be taking care of yourself more than a lot of people i see
To be honest I just got another bad report. I have never in my life been over 130lbs. Guess I need to work out more.
I'm sorry to hear that. :(
Seems a few of our folks are having some medical problems, you are all in my thoughts and prayers. Take care of yourselves and God Bless!
Thank you. My Dad died at the age of 59. I am not far from that. Most in their 40s. As a Christian I am not afraid of dying. It's more of a peaceful beginning than an end.
I consider myself a Christian but I am still very fearful of death. Besides that, I do worry a lot about my parents as they grow older. I know it's a matter of when, not if, for all of us but I don't think I'll ever be ok with it.
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