MSNBC Caught in another lie, Using bogus photo

[momsapplepie]

When MSNBC Chris Hayes reported on the attempted bombing of an NAACP office in Colorado Springs, a photo was used to better fit the narrative the network was obviously trying to push. The photo used was taken from an incident in France (http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/09/in-story-about-colorado-naacp-attempted-bombing-msnbc-uses-image-from-france-video/). A negligible amount of damage was done to the actual building in Colorado, but some on the left have been trying to equate it with the massacre of 12 people at the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine offices in Paris by Muslim terrorists.The station has built a reputation of doctoring, i.e. falsifying, things to fit their narrative, so this may come as no surprise to some.
http://www.tpnn.com/2015/01/10/msnbc-admits-to-using-bogus-photo-on-naacp-bombing-story-their-apology-is-beyond-pathetic/

Yeah, not surprising at all. Liberalism in stock and trade.

[GrassrootsConservative]

Most Spun News Broadcasting Company

[Professor Peabody]

Most Spun News Broadcasting Company

Isn't that where Rachael Maddcow's show is aired?

[Matty]

Good grief, things are bad enough in real life, they don't need to make up other crap. But they were the ones who decided Zimmerman must be white to stoke those racial bias!

[Max Rockatansky]

Good grief, things are bad enough in real life, they don't need to make up other crap. But they were the ones who decided Zimmerman must be white to stoke those racial bias!

While I agree, what passes for news these days is mostly an attempt to attract viewers in order to sell products. MSNBC, FNC and CNN are all guilty of pandering to viewers in order to attract attention (usually through controversy because controversy sells) rather than staying within the ethical boundaries of journalism.

[Peter1469]

Journalism is dead in America.

[Max Rockatansky]

Journalism is dead in America.Disagreed, but money interests are certainly front and center, especially on cable.

[PolWatch]

When 24/7 news coverage began, quality stopped. I think of it as limited amount of news that has to be stretched to fill additional time and earn more advertising revenue. They all do it. They take a minor incident and blow it up to fill time. One of the many reasons I think that using them to form opinions is a mistake. I try to get the true story by looking at several sources.

My husband refers to a situation like this as stretched as thin as a germ over the top of a 55 gallon drum.

[Common]

This kind of journalism whether its left or right is whats wrong with the entire media in this country and its the reason NO one trusts them anylonger.

Whoever authorized that should be fired. I want honest news reporting whether its for something Im for or something im against.

[exotix]

When MSNBC Chris Hayes reported on the attempted bombing of an NAACP office in Colorado Springs, a photo was used to better fit the narrative the network was obviously trying to push. The photo used was taken from an incident in France (http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/09/in-story-about-colorado-naacp-attempted-bombing-msnbc-uses-image-from-france-video/). A negligible amount of damage was done to the actual building in Colorado, but some on the left have been trying to equate it with the massacre of 12 people at the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine offices in Paris by Muslim terrorists.

The station has built a reputation of doctoring, i.e. falsifying, things to fit their narrative, so this may come as no surprise to some.

http://www.tpnn.com/2015/01/10/msnbc-admits-to-using-bogus-photo-on-naacp-bombing-story-their-apology-is-beyond-pathetic/

Yeah, not surprising at all. Liberalism in stock and trade.
The bolded shows what a liar you are.

[Bo-4]

Most Spun News Broadcasting Company

Heheh.. no spin over at Fox. :rolleyes:

[Bo-4]

The bolded shows what a liar you are.

The difference between MSNBC and Fox is that when the former makes a mistake.. they ADMIT it.

Fox will go on repeating the same debunked lies for years!

[exotix]

The difference between MSNBC and Fox is that when the former makes a mistake.. they ADMIT it.

Fox will go on repeating the same debunked lies for years!
I stopped watching Faux when it became clear there were no WMD's in Iraq.

[Bo-4]

I stopped watching Faux when it became clear there were no WMD's in Iraq.

There are STILL a few braindeads over there who believe we found them.

[Peter1469]

There are STILL a few braindeads over there who believe we found them.

My unit did.

[Matty]

The bolded shows what a liar you are.



Poor brainless you. Those are not the words of MAP. Had you bothered to read the article you would know that those are the words of the author. You owe MAP an apology!

[hanger4]

There are STILL a few braindeads over there who believe we found them.

And there is a lot of "braindeads" on the left that still

scream *Bush lied People died* although debunked

years ago.

[exotix]

Poor brainless you. Those are not the words of MAP. Had you bothered to read the article you would know that those are the words of the author. You owe MAP an apology!
That's even worse ... posting a lie from a website that lies.

[Matty]

My unit did.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

[hanger4]

Heheh.. no spin over at Fox. :rolleyes:

Nobody said there wasn't, but your deflection is noted.

Did MSNBC lie or not ??

[exotix]

My unit did.
Got pix of those components of Saddams' re-constituted nuclear weapons programs Cheney touted ?

[hanger4]

That's even worse ... posting a lie from a website that lies.

Pot meet kettle.

[Bo-4]

And there is a lot of "braindeads" on the left that still

scream *Bush lied People died* although debunked

years ago.

935 wasn't enough eh hanger? LoL!!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/23/bush.iraq/

And did people die --- Ya THINK?

[Bo-4]

My unit did.

Sure ya did Peter. Did you find an ancient shell or manufacturing facility with traces of crap so old it might have killed a fly or two?

Or did ya find some that Junior missed under his desk? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKX6luiMINQ

[Matty]

Tell you what people, you will never see anything like this on FoX news


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sSQZeBnVzD8

[Peter1469]

Got pix of those components of Saddams' re-constituted nuclear weapons programs Cheney touted ?

I didn't say that I have pictures. I said that my unit captured WMD stuff. And dozens of soldiers were injured by being close to them. I posted a couple of articles this summer about it. I guess you missed it.

[Bo-4]

Got pix of those components of Saddams' re-constituted nuclear weapons programs Cheney touted ?

Thank goodness we avoided Kindasleezy's "mushroom cloud". :cool:

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID15870/images/Condi_Rice_Mushroom_Cloud.jpg

[Peter1469]

Lots of stuff. Not to the degree discussed prior to the invasion. Lots of yellow cake. Remember that?


Sure ya did Peter. Did you find an ancient shell or manufacturing facility with traces of crap so old it might have killed a fly or two?

Or did ya find some that Junior missed under his desk? :D

[hanger4]

935 wasn't enough eh hanger? LoL!!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/23/bush.iraq/

And did people die --- Ya THINK?

Like I said "debunked years ago" (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html)

Please try and keep up.

[Howey]

When 24/7 news coverage began, quality stopped. I think of it as limited amount of news that has to be stretched to fill additional time and earn more advertising revenue. They all do it. They take a minor incident and blow it up to fill time. One of the many reasons I think that using them to form opinions is a mistake. I try to get the true story by looking at several sources.

My husband refers to a situation like this as stretched as thin as a germ over the top of a 55 gallon drum.

Without verifying the truth of the claim, particularly since it came from TPNN, I'll merely point out that this occurs all the time on all networks. Should we hold the network and host accountable for an error made by a low level researcher?


Like when Fox posted a picture of the wrong Lois Lerner? Or this fabulously hilarious faux paux?

http://gawker.com/5982945/fox-news-accidentally-uses-photo-of-same-sex-couple-to-illustrate-article-about-the-importance-of-heterosexual-marriage

[Bo-4]

Tell you what people, you will never see anything like this on FoX news

Oh yes you will. Just about daily actually.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XYlJqf4dLI

[exotix]

Like I said "debunked years ago" (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html)

Please try and keep up.
Can we get you to debunk this ?



http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Caps/foxnews-trayvon-graphic.jpg

[Matty]

Oh yes you will. Just about daily actually.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XYlJqf4dLI


Not it even close. Try harder!

[hanger4]

BTW Bo-4 and exotix did MSNBC lie ??

or do believe deflecting and distracting

from the OP makes it all better ??

[Bo-4]

Lots of stuff. Not to the degree discussed prior to the invasion. Lots of yellow cake. Remember that?

You didn't hear that yellowcake was a myth? LoL!!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/yellowcake.asp

[Bo-4]

BTW @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297) and @exotix (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=516) did MSNBC lie ??

or do believe deflecting and distracting

from the OP makes it all better ??

No, they made a mistake and corrected it as they always do.

Show me the last time Fox did that.

[Matty]

BTW @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297) and @exotix (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=516) did MSNBC lie ??

or do believe deflecting and distracting

from the OP makes it all better ??


You don't really expect an honest response from them do you?

[Matty]

Can we get you to debunk this ?



http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Caps/foxnews-trayvon-graphic.jpg
News Corpse.com even you cannot be that stupid.........oh wait!

[Bo-4]

Like I said "debunked years ago" (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html)

Please try and keep up.

You found a Bush apologist with an opinion column?

Awesome! :grin:

[exotix]

BTW @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297) and @exotix (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=516) did MSNBC lie ??

or do believe deflecting and distracting

from the OP makes it all better ??
You don't really expect an honest response from them do you?
I'm still waiting for a response to this lie ....



When MSNBC Chris Hayes reported on the attempted bombing of an NAACP office in Colorado Springs, a photo was used to better fit the narrative the network was obviously trying to push. The photo used was taken from an incident in France (http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/09/in-story-about-colorado-naacp-attempted-bombing-msnbc-uses-image-from-france-video/). A negligible amount of damage was done to the actual building in Colorado, but some on the left have been trying to equate it with the massacre of 12 people at the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine offices in Paris by Muslim terrorists.

The station has built a reputation of doctoring, i.e. falsifying, things to fit their narrative, so this may come as no surprise to some.

http://www.tpnn.com/2015/01/10/msnbc-admits-to-using-bogus-photo-on-naacp-bombing-story-their-apology-is-beyond-pathetic/

Yeah, not surprising at all. Liberalism in stock and trade.

[Common]

Show something MSNBC did dishonest and the lefts response is, Oh fox doesnt do it? Show something fox does dishonest and the rights response is, MSNBC doesnt do it.

The right response is lets show them BOTH we want honest reporting and turn them off until they do.

But nah when the lie benefits me Im good with that.

[hanger4]

Can we get you to debunk this ?



http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Caps/foxnews-trayvon-graphic.jpg

Start a thread about it exotix

Did MSNBC lie ??

or do you continue to deflect and distract ??

[Bob]

I stopped watching Faux when it became clear there were no WMD's in Iraq.

Peter was there in the Army and says there were WMDs.

What did you want exotix? Besides all Bush did was continue the same dialogue used by Democrats.

[Peter1469]

Who? The looney left keeps dragging this guy out for some odd reason.
Can we get you to debunk this ?



http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Caps/foxnews-trayvon-graphic.jpg

[Bo-4]

Can we get you to debunk this ?

Didn't Fox also show this one with the fingers blurred calling it Martin from his Facebook page (turned out to be some rapper dude ;-)

http://d2rg8jfniu44sp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvonmartinnotreal1.jpg

[Peter1469]

You didn't hear that yellowcake was a myth? LoL!!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/yellowcake.asp

Dude it wasn't a myth. Your link doesn't say that it is. The snopes conclusion is that the yellow cake found doesn't prove that Saddam was reconstituting his nuclear program. Sure it doesn't prove it. But nothing disproves it. He bought the stuff for a reason. And we can't ask him way anymore.

[hanger4]

No, they made a mistake and corrected it as they always do.

Show me the last time Fox did that.

If that was a mistake considering the stories are days a part

then MSNBC's incompetence level has broken the measuring stick.

[hanger4]

Dude it wasn't a myth. Your link doesn't say that it is. The snopes conclusion is that the yellow cake found doesn't prove that Saddam was reconstitution his nuclear program. Sure it doesn't prove it. But nothing disproves it. He bought the stuff for a reason. And we can't ask him way anymore.

Reading with comprehension seems to be problematic on the left.

Or maybe it intentional ??

[exotix]

Start a thread about it @exotix (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=516)

Did MSNBC lie ??

or do you continue to deflect and distract ??Benghazi !!!!



As one might expect Fox News is fleeing from covering the final report from Congress regarding the Benghazi tragedy.


http://atlasleft.org/must-read-the-18-worst-goptea-party-benghazi-lies-debunked/

http://www.theeverlastinggopstoppers.com/2014/11/fox-news-hides-benghazi-truth/





http://thegops.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Fox-Benghazi-Lies.jpg

http://atlasleft.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Benghazi-Lies.jpg

[Bo-4]

Dude it wasn't a myth. Your link doesn't say that it is. The snopes conclusion is that the yellow cake found doesn't prove that Saddam was reconstituting his nuclear program. Sure it doesn't prove it. But nothing disproves it. He bought the stuff for a reason. And we can't ask him way anymore.

Yes, it does actually.

"The yellowcake removed from Iraq in 2008 was material that had long since been identified, documented, and stored in sealed containers under the supervision of U.N. inspectors."

[Peter1469]

Yes, it does actually.

"The yellowcake removed from Iraq in 2008 was material that had long since been identified, documented, and stored in sealed containers under the supervision of U.N. inspectors."

You are not making any sense. We knew when he bought it before the invasion. Why did he buy it? Wilson reported it to the CIA and then lied to the press.

[Bo-4]

You are not making any sense. We knew when he bought it before the invasion. Why did he buy it? Wilson reported it to the CIA and then lied to the press.

Geeze Peter.. what is it from this sentence isn't sinking in?

material that had long since been identified, documented, and stored in sealed containers under the supervision of U.N. inspectors

[exotix]

Reading with comprehension seems to be problematic on the left.

Or maybe it intentional ??
Not at all ... in fact here's one those Mobile Biological Agent Weapons Labs Saddam was gonna launch attacks on America with ... looks pretty sophisticated ... in fact, you could mount centrifugals in it to convert yellowcake into a nuclear weapons grade material for those ICBM silos somewhere north, south, east and west of Baghdad & Tikrit Rummy was talking about ... LOL


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5TPHv8hC7Us/TWRkoO5MV6I/AAAAAAAAAMU/ZXK17NJiHXg/s1600/Trailer.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Powell_UN_Iraq_presentation,_alleged_Mobile_Produc tion_Facilities.jpg

[Howey]

There are STILL a few braindeads over there who believe we found them.

Is the argument That Bush lied about WMDS or that there were none?

WMDs:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/no-wmds-in-iraq/

Bush:

Since he's admitted he lied and there were no WMDS in Iraq, why even bring it up?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OSN-Kku_rFE

[hanger4]

Benghazi !!!!



As one might expect Fox News is fleeing from covering the final report from Congress regarding the Benghazi tragedy.


http://atlasleft.org/must-read-the-18-worst-goptea-party-benghazi-lies-debunked/

http://www.theeverlastinggopstoppers.com/2014/11/fox-news-hides-benghazi-truth/

Debunk the OP exotix ?? Instead you run around and

and point fingers saying *but, but, but they do it too*

Do you ever contribute any thing above the juvenile level ??

[exotix]

Debunk the OP @exotix (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=516) ?? Instead you run around and

and point fingers saying *but, but, but they do it too*

Do you ever contribute any thing above the juvenile level ??
I'm still waiting for you to post up proof as stated in the OP ...


When MSNBC Chris Hayes reported on the attempted bombing of an NAACP office in Colorado Springs, a photo was used to better fit the narrative the network was obviously trying to push. The photo used was taken from an incident in France (http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/09/in-story-about-colorado-naacp-attempted-bombing-msnbc-uses-image-from-france-video/). A negligible amount of damage was done to the actual building in Colorado, but some on the left have been trying to equate it with the massacre of 12 people at the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine offices in Paris by Muslim terrorists.

The station has built a reputation of doctoring, i.e. falsifying, things to fit their narrative, so this may come as no surprise to some.

http://www.tpnn.com/2015/01/10/msnbc-admits-to-using-bogus-photo-on-naacp-bombing-story-their-apology-is-beyond-pathetic/

Yeah, not surprising at all. Liberalism in stock and trade.

[hanger4]

Amazingly funny to watch some of the forums LWers circle

the wagons to protect MSNBC's, at the very lest, total incompetence

with a constant barrage of off topic deflection and distraction.

[exotix]

Amazingly funny to watch some of the forums LWers circle

the wagons to protect MSNBC's, at the very lest, total incompetence

with a constant barrage of off topic deflection and distraction.
Just answer the question ... is the bolded from the OP truth or lie ?



When MSNBC Chris Hayes reported on the attempted bombing of an NAACP office in Colorado Springs, a photo was used to better fit the narrative the network was obviously trying to push. The photo used was taken from an incident in France (http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/09/in-story-about-colorado-naacp-attempted-bombing-msnbc-uses-image-from-france-video/). A negligible amount of damage was done to the actual building in Colorado, but some on the left have been trying to equate it with the massacre of 12 people at the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine offices in Paris by Muslim terrorists.

The station has built a reputation of doctoring, i.e. falsifying, things to fit their narrative, so this may come as no surprise to some.

http://www.tpnn.com/2015/01/10/msnbc-admits-to-using-bogus-photo-on-naacp-bombing-story-their-apology-is-beyond-pathetic/

Yeah, not surprising at all. Liberalism in stock and trade.

[Common Sense]

If people are looking for "journalism" in the 24 hour news cycle on TV, they're looking in the wrong place.

[hanger4]

I'm still waiting for you to post up proof as stated in the OP ...

Actually you're running away from MSNBC's lying or

incompetence by focusing on an opinion by the stories writer.

There is no doubting MSNBC used the wrong pic to show

damage in Colorado. Lies or stark incompetence ??

BTW here's a link to bolster the opinion of the OP's author.

MSNBC Apologizes is a fairly long list. (https://www.google.com/search?q=broken+measuring+stick&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=653&site=imghp&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=zZWyVIfeJIiAygTJrIHwCA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&dpr=1#hl=en&q=msnbc+apologizes)

[hanger4]

Is the argument That Bush lied about WMDS or that there were none?

WMDs:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/no-wmds-in-iraq/

Bush:

Since he's admitted he lied and there were no WMDS in Iraq, why even bring it up?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OSN-Kku_rFE

Again this BS was debunked years ago (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html)

[Common Sense]

Again this BS was debunked years ago (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html)

That's an editorial...

It's basically an opinion piece.

[Bo-4]

Again this BS was debunked years ago (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html)

You a funny guy.. Bushie's right there ADMITTING there were no WMD and you repost your silly opinion column.

Whatevs :cool:

[hanger4]

That's an editorial...

It's basically an opinion piece.

What part of " Rockefeller's report" in the OP did you miss ??


Hiatt refers to that report from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

several times. One should find and read it.

[Peter1469]

Geeze Peter.. what is it from this sentence isn't sinking in?

material that had long since been identified, documented, and stored in sealed containers under the supervision of U.N. inspectors

Repeat after me..., Saddam bought yellow cake from Nigeria.... Why? Probably just for fun according to you.

[Peter1469]

You a funny guy.. Bushie's right there ADMITTING there were no WMD and you repost your silly opinion column.

Whatevs :cool:

You usually say Bush is a idiot. The non- existent WMD hurt a lot of soldiers. If you want to toss them under the bus for political gain, [self edit].

[Common Sense]

All WMD's found in Iraq were degraded munitions that date from before the first gulf war.

[Bo-4]

You usually say Bush is a idiot. The non- existent WMD hurt a lot of soldiers. If you want to toss them under the bus for political gain, [self edit].

I know @Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10), a HANDFUL (perhaps a dozen per NY Times) were burned by ancient chemicals that they didn't handle properly.

Should have let the experts at the UN finish the job prior to wasting a couple of trillion and so many lives.

[Peter1469]

I know @Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10), a HANDFUL (perhaps a dozen per NY Times) were burned by ancient chemicals that they didn't handle properly.

Should have let the experts at the UN finish the job prior to wasting a couple of trillion and so many lives.

You use the word ancient in an attempt to diminish their presence.

But you don't get to claim that there was no WMD and then try to minimize the WMD that was there.

I always said that Saddam didn't have the amounts claimed prior to the invasion. But he did have stuff. (Lots of it ended up in Syria). But what Saddam did have was WMD projects on ice, ready to go as soon as sanctions were lifted.

But the left will continue with their propaganda campaign of "no WMDs."

[del]

tea party network news

lol

[Bo-4]

You use the word ancient in an attempt to diminish their presence.

But you don't get to claim that there was no WMD and then try to minimize the WMD that was there.

I always said that Saddam didn't have the amounts claimed prior to the invasion. But he did have stuff. (Lots of it ended up in Syria). But what Saddam did have was WMD projects on ice, ready to go as soon as sanctions were lifted.

But the left will continue with their propaganda campaign of "no WMDs."

It's not our propaganda campaign Peter.. saying that WMD were found is YOUR propaganda campaign. Powell says there weren't, Bush says there weren't, and the ISG final report said there weren't.

However, Dirty Dick Cheney might agree with you, but he's still clinging to the lie that we obtained actionable intel from torture and Mohammed Atta met with Iraqi officials in Prague. ;-)

As for how you dispel your friends’ notions that Iraq really did have stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons when President Bush no longer makes such claims himself, we suggest ridicule. If that doesn’t work, you may be out of luck.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/no-wmds-in-iraq/

[del]

Dude it wasn't a myth. Your link doesn't say that it is. The snopes conclusion is that the yellow cake found doesn't prove that Saddam was reconstituting his nuclear program. Sure it doesn't prove it. But nothing disproves it. He bought the stuff for a reason. And we can't ask him way anymore.

that's convenient, isn't it?

[Bo-4]

tea party network news

lol

Hey, when the abbreviate themselves as TPNN .. they kind of sound legit! ;)

[Howey]

Actually you're running away from MSNBC's lying or

incompetence by focusing on an opinion by the stories writer.

There is no doubting MSNBC used the wrong pic to show

damage in Colorado. Lies or stark incompetence ??

BTW here's a link to bolster the opinion of the OP's author.

MSNBC Apologizes is a fairly long list. (https://www.google.com/search?q=broken+measuring+stick&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=653&site=imghp&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=zZWyVIfeJIiAygTJrIHwCA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&dpr=1#hl=en&q=msnbc+apologizes)

At least MSNBC apologizes. FOX merely deletes.

I really don't want to scour the internet for the thousands of links to Fox posting the wrong picture, etc. They all do it.


But, let's look at the elephant in the room...

Where's the right wing disdain over a NAACP office being bombed?

Regardless of the amount of damage, do you not care because it was the NAACP?

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27267521/colorado-springs-police-responding-explosion-reports-at-naacp?source=pkg

[hanger4]

The *Bush Lied People Died* meme is debunked.

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a.pdf

It's long, It's boring and I ain't reading it for ya.

I will tell you that the conclusions are on pages

15, 28, 37, 49, 57, 59, 71, 72, 82, and 88.

[Howey]

Hey, when the abbreviate themselves as TPNN .. they kind of sound legit! ;)

Far from it...

https://gigaom.com/2012/11/01/tea-party-news-site-mission-or-marketing-scam/

[hanger4]

At least MSNBC apologizes. FOX merely deletes.

I really don't want to scour the internet for the thousands of links to Fox posting the wrong picture, etc. They all do it.


But, let's look at the elephant in the room...

Where's the right wing disdain over a NAACP office being bombed?

Regardless of the amount of damage, do you not care because it was the NAACP?

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27267521/colorado-springs-police-responding-explosion-reports-at-naacp?source=pkg

No damage, no death, no injuries, no news.

IMO both are obviously wrong but this ain't about my opinion

tis about MSNBC's lies or incompetence.

[Bo-4]

Far from it...

https://gigaom.com/2012/11/01/tea-party-news-site-mission-or-marketing-scam/

Sarah didn't spend any of her PAC money on Republican candidates either. Life is too short to do anything with it but buy your own books, rent buses, and pay her and Toad's hotel bills and moose steak dinners.

:biglaugh:

The site, which appears to have been online for awhile, offers little more than links to anti-Obama screeds from right-wing standard-bearers like Red State (http://www.redstate.com/) and Michelle Malkin. There is also a smattering of original content from “volunteers.”




Cefaratti, you see, appears to be more hustler than true believer. According to news items (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/29/arizona-tea-party-group-469000-donations-spent-politics-report/), he used a Tea Party-branded website before the 2010 midterms to rake in $469,000 in donations, but did not spend any of it on conservative candidates or causes. Instead, half the funds went to marketing and the other half went to non-political activity.

[gamewell45]

While I agree, what passes for news these days is mostly an attempt to attract viewers in order to sell products. MSNBC, FNC and CNN are all guilty of pandering to viewers in order to attract attention (usually through controversy because controversy sells) rather than staying within the ethical boundaries of journalism.

Every commercial news operation (whether radio, television or print) is all about money, ratings and sales (in the case of print) whether people want to admit it or not and they'll do whatever they can do to sell their product to the viewer/readers. Makes no difference what their editorial position is when it comes to making money.

[Howey]

The *Bush Lied People Died* meme is debunked.

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a.pdf

It's long, It's boring and I ain't reading it for ya.

I will tell you that the conclusions are on pages

15, 28, 37, 49, 57, 59, 71, 72, 82, and 88.

It may be boring, but it also contradicts you.

Try this. It's not boring and more concise with actual quotes from Bush and Cheney:

https://books.google.com/books?id=nylbxnIdGQAC&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=The+Iraqi+regime+has+in+fact+been+very+busy+enh ancing+its+...+to+invest+in+his+ongoing+chemical+a nd+biological+weapons+programs&source=bl&ots=N7pPvZ3u9-&sig=bJqYAUDjWTXYCbRWG1USF_PPr9U&hl=en&sa=X&ei=d7WyVJezBITbsASD8IHwAQ&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=The%20Iraqi%20regime%20has%20in%20fact%20been%20 very%20busy%20enhancing%20its%20...%20to%20invest% 20in%20his%20ongoing%20chemical%20and%20biological %20weapons%20programs&f=false

[hanger4]

It may be boring, but it also contradicts you.

Try this. It's not boring and more concise with actual quotes from Bush and Cheney:

https://books.google.com/books?id=nylbxnIdGQAC&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=The+Iraqi+regime+has+in+fact+been+very+busy+enh ancing+its+...+to+invest+in+his+ongoing+chemical+a nd+biological+weapons+programs&source=bl&ots=N7pPvZ3u9-&sig=bJqYAUDjWTXYCbRWG1USF_PPr9U&hl=en&sa=X&ei=d7WyVJezBITbsASD8IHwAQ&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=The Iraqi regime has in fact been very busy enhancing its ... to invest in his ongoing chemical and biological weapons programs&f=false

It's the same report Howey

:facepalm: :dontknow:

[momsapplepie]

Destract, spin, jump loop de loops. Doesn't change the fact MSNBC lied, used a bogus photo to promote their fear agenda. The actual (bomb) went off next to the Barber shop on the opposite side of the ACLU headquarters. It wasn't even near enough to cause damage beyond scuffing a small section of the wall of the barber shop.

[momsapplepie]

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[momsapplepie]

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[Bo-4]

Destract, spin, jump loop de loops. Doesn't change the fact MSNBC lied, used a bogus photo to promote their fear agenda. The actual (bomb) went off next to the Barber shop on the opposite side of the ACLU headquarters. It wasn't even near enough to cause damage beyond scuffing a small section of the wall of the barber shop.

They were shamed into apologizing for this whopper, but such apologies are rare. :D

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/23/1353803/-Fox-affiliate-apologizes-to-editing-protesters-chants-to-say-Kill-a-cop

[Howey]

It's the same report Howey

:facepalm: :dontknow:
The reports the same as the book? How?

Are you disputing the direct quotes of Bush and Cheney in the book?

[Howey]

1016110162

Once again I have to ask. What amount of damage is sufficient to amount to an attack?

Are you expressing your displeasure there wasn't enough damage done?

And why aren't you condemning the attack?

Because it was against niggrahs?

[hanger4]

The reports the same as the book? How?

Are you disputing the direct quotes of Bush and Cheney in the book?

Read the link I provided to the actual report the book is about.

And yes the link you posted to an excerpt from the book is

the fricking report. Dang it Howey you haven't read either

one, my or yours, or you'd know that little tid-bit of info.

[hanger4]

Once again I have to ask. What amount of damage is sufficient to amount to an attack?

Are you expressing your displeasure there wasn't enough damage done?

And why aren't you condemning the attack?

Because it was against niggrahs?

Simple question not disputing anything,

Why is this an attack on the NAACP when the firebomb or whatever

was on/at the barber shops wall ??

[Matty]

Simple question not disputing anything,

Why is this an attack on the NAACP when the firebomb or whatever

was on/at the barber shops wall ??


Because it DOSEN't play well with his racist dialogue!

[momsapplepie]

Once again I have to ask. What amount of damage is sufficient to amount to an attack?

Are you expressing your displeasure there wasn't enough damage done?

And why aren't you condemning the attack?

Because it was against niggrahs?

For one, it hasn't even been proven it was an attack against the NAACP. If the "bomb" went off against the wall of the NAACP, there might have been a little more evidence. Otherwise this looks like a kid playing with a cherry bomb. Oh and take your racist bs and shove it up your ass.

[zelmo1234]

My unit did.

Now you were only there!!!! Stop spreading real information that is not an approved liberal talking point.

Only points approved by the DNC will have the credibility seal of approval

[zelmo1234]

Show something MSNBC did dishonest and the lefts response is, Oh fox doesnt do it? Show something fox does dishonest and the rights response is, MSNBC doesnt do it.

The right response is lets show them BOTH we want honest reporting and turn them off until they do.

But nah when the lie benefits me Im good with that.

The problem with our country and the media is that partisans are willing to accept any lie, as long as it supports their agenda. That is where we find ourselves today.

Instead of demanding the truth, we find people that will support our opinion

[PolWatch]

Please stay on topic...take your personal issues to the PM function or it's the corner & dunce cap!

[Bo-4]

For one, it hasn't even been proven it was an attack against the NAACP. If the "bomb" went off against the wall of the NAACP, there might have been a little more evidence. Otherwise this looks like a kid playing with a cherry bomb. Oh and take your racist bs and shove it up your ass.

Oh dear! :rolleyes:

Didn't quite live up to your handle there Moms.

[GrassrootsConservative]

Nobody said there wasn't, but your deflection is noted.

Did MSNBC lie or not ??

Some people just cannot stay on topic. It comes as no surprise to me that Bo-4 is one of them.

[momsapplepie]

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[Professor Peabody]

I stopped watching Faux when it became clear there were no WMD's in Iraq.

You might be better informed if you did.

The Secret Casualties of Iraq’s Abandoned Chemical Weapons
(http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0)
Which supports this story.

Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says (http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/)

Please don't let facts get in your way.

[Adelaide]

I don't find this overly shocking; I don't expect much less from media in general.

[Howey]

You might be better informed if you did.

The Secret Casualties of Iraq’s Abandoned Chemical Weapons
(http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0)
Which supports this story.

Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says (http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/)

Please don't let facts get in your way.


From your first link:


The United States had gone to war declaring it must destroy an active weapons of mass destruction program. Instead, American troops gradually found and ultimately suffered from the remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West.



From your second link. Oh, look hanger4!


And President Bush himself has conceded much of the point; in a televised prime-time address to Americans last month, he said, "It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong."

Said Mr. Bush, "We did not find those weapons."

The second article, an interesting fable from 2006, was debunked in 2010.

http://my.firedoglake.com/jimwhite/2008/10/30/debunking-the-wmd-flights-to-syria/

[momsapplepie]

Avoiding the topic of MSNBC lies. Not surprising when as shown the liberals stand there with their fingers in their ears and horse blinders on going " la la la" I can't hear you, so I don't want to know."

[Howey]

Is the argument That Bush lied about WMDS or that there were none?

WMDs:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/no-wmds-in-iraq/

Bush:

Since he's admitted he lied and there were no WMDS in Iraq, why even bring it up?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OSN-Kku_rFE


Again this BS was debunked years ago (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html)


The *Bush Lied People Died* meme is debunked.

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a.pdf

It's long, It's boring and I ain't reading it for ya.

I will tell you that the conclusions are on pages

15, 28, 37, 49, 57, 59, 71, 72, 82, and 88.

You won't give up, will you, hanger4?

I've given you a video of Bush admitting he lied, I've given you several quotes from both Bush and Cheney, and you still cry?

Go back and read your Rockefeller report without nitpicking what you want to see...

You'll read:


These statements were consistent with the intelligence described above.

Incidentally, that was right after one of Bush's lies.

Now, remember back, if you can...

Yes, the intelligence was wrong. Even Bush admitted the intelligence was wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/03/31/intel.report/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


After the intelligence failures in Iraq, Bush appointed the nine-member commission led by Laurence Silberman, a senior federal appellate court judge and a Republican who was in the Nixon and Ford administrations, and former Sen. and Virginia Gov. Chuck Robb, a Democrat.

An October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate warned that Iraq was pursuing weapons of mass destruction, had reconstituted its nuclear weapon program and had biological and chemical weapons.

The Bush administration used those conclusions as part of its argument for the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.

But the Iraq Survey Group -- set up to look for weapons of mass destruction or evidence of them in the country -- issued a final report saying it saw no weapons or no evidence that Iraq was trying to reconstitute them.

The commission's report said the principal cause of the intelligence failures was the intelligence community's "inability to collect good information about Iraq's WMD programs, serious errors in analyzing what information it could gather and a failure to make clear just how much of its analysis was based on assumptions rather than good evidence."

The report said analysts were "too wedded" to assumptions about Saddam Hussein's intentions.

"The single most prominent recurring theme" of its recommendations is "stronger and more centralized management of the intelligence community, and, in general, the creation of a genuinely integrated community, instead of a loose confederation of independent agencies."


Please, give up.

[Howey]

Is the argument That Bush lied about WMDS or that there were none?

WMDs:

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/no-wmds-in-iraq/

Bush:

Since he's admitted he lied and there were no WMDS in Iraq, why even bring it up?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OSN-Kku_rFE


Again this BS was debunked years ago (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html)


Avoiding the topic of MSNBC lies. Not surprising when as shown the liberals stand there with their fingers in their ears and horse blinders on going " la la la" I can't hear you, so I don't want to know."

We did? Where exactly did I do that? You, however, are the one who amazingly declared that Fox would nevah do anything like this. Only to have instance after instance after instance crammed down your partisan throat.

Like I told Hanger, momsapplepie, give up. And look in a mirror.

http://i.imgur.com/MQMx4fD.png

[momsapplepie]

Please go start your own thread on WMDs and go back to the posted topic.

[momsapplepie]

Care to quote where I've said anything in this thread about fox news? You can't and just made a liar out of yourself. Back to MSNBC lies please.

[hanger4]

You won't give up, will you, @hanger4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=403)?

I've given you a video of Bush admitting he lied, I've given you several quotes from both Bush and Cheney, and you still cry?

Go back and read your Rockefeller report without nitpicking what you want to see...

You'll read:



Incidentally, that was right after one of Bush's lies.

Now, remember back, if you can...

Yes, the intelligence was wrong. Even Bush admitted the intelligence was wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/03/31/intel.report/index.html?iref=mpstoryview




Please, give up.

Why thank-ye Howey your own link makes my point,

Bush didn't intentionally lie US into war.


"This was a major intelligence failure," said a letter from the commission to President Bush.

As you so succinctly pointed out the *Bush Lied People Died*

meme is debunked and put to bed.

BTW I didn't nitpick the report I posted the link to the

whole report for all to read which I believe you have yet

to avail yourself of.

[PolWatch]

Please stay on topic

[hanger4]

Please go start your own thread on WMDs and go back to the posted topic.

That was my fault momsapplepie I get tired of the

bush lied people died meme from the left I go off on em.

[hanger4]

So tell us MSNBCers Did MSNBC lie via the pic

or are they just woefully incompetent ??

[Howey]

So tell us MSNBCers Did MSNBC lie via the pic

or are they just woefully incompetent ??

Of course they didn't lie. They made a mistake.


We screwed up that image in the NAACP bombing report last night. It was from another story in our system. Our bad. We regret the error.

What more do you want? A congressional investigation?

[momsapplepie]

sure, they just made a mistake, just like they've done with hundreds of other lies they put out.

[hanger4]

Of course they didn't lie. They made a mistake.



What more do you want? A congressional investigation?

Incompetence it is then.

[Howey]

Incompetence it is then.

If MSNBC was incompetent, I guess FOX is a thousand times more incompetent for their lies. And Bush.

[PolWatch]

Please stay on topic

[hanger4]

If MSNBC was incompetent, I guess FOX is a thousand times more incompetent for their lies. And Bush.

And this story/thread ain't about Fox and their supposed incompetence.

And it wasn't even the NAACP it was a barber shop next door.

And Bush didn't intentionally lie as your very link showed.

[Chloe]

The more sensational the story and the more sensational the pictures the better the ratings typically end up being. Sad but true. And it's been like that for a long time too going back to the old newspaper battles and so on

[Polecat]

TV news is for entertainment only.

[momsapplepie]

MSNBC has a history of making up lies.

[Chloe]

MSNBC has a history of making up lies.

Thats why it's important to read and watch multiple sources

[momsapplepie]

I don't watch MSNBC for this reason.

[hanger4]

The more sensational the story and the more sensational the pictures the better the ratings typically end up being. Sad but true. And it's been like that for a long time too going back to the old newspaper battles and so on

And "All In with Chris Hayes" is in dire need of those ratings.

[Professor Peabody]

From your first link:



From your second link. Oh, look @hanger4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=403)!



The second article, an interesting fable from 2006, was debunked in 2010.

http://my.firedoglake.com/jimwhite/2008/10/30/debunking-the-wmd-flights-to-syria/

Firedoglake? :rofl:


The pilots told Mr. Sada that two Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, Mr. Sada said. Then Special Republican Guard brigades loaded materials onto the planes, he said, including "yellow barrels with skull and crossbones on each barrel." The pilots said there was also a ground convoy of trucks.

http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/

They don't shoot Chemical weapons out of artillery in yellow barrels. That would leave..............empty shells behind.:rolleyes20:

The distance between Damascus and Baghdad is 466 miles and 360 miles between Baghdad and Palmyra Syria Airport.


Further, since Sada says only two Iraqi planes were involved in the weapons transfer, it’s hard to see how two planes can move 56 flights of dangerous cargo in a six day window.

It's approximately 350 miles between Ontario CA Airport and Phoenix AZ. Non Stop it's about 1 hour and 10 minutes. That would be (28) 1 hour and 10 minute trips each for 2 planes in 6 days or 4 trips a day. The author of the blog you posted obviously has a hard time with math.