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Trinnity
06-12-2012, 12:45 PM
It's really quite simple: Capitalism, liberty, property rights, the Constitution vs globalism, State-ism, UN as sovereign, and Marxism. The lines could not be clearer. That's why this is the most important election of our lifetimes, and prolly even ever. What America is and has stood for stands on the precipice of surviving or ending.

Going forward, it's important we remember what is at stake even more so than jobs and the economy. Having said that, the economy will always take a back seat to State-ism. Therefore the health of the economy is vulnerable to the size and reach of he State.

Obama's support and fostering of OWS was strategic. It's a good sign that it didn't work. He is a State-ist and for our sake, he has to be voted out in November.

roadmaster
06-12-2012, 01:28 PM
I agree Obama has to be voted out.

Trinnity
06-12-2012, 01:40 PM
Oh, it's pretty darn serious. Can you see us enduring 4 more years of his FAIL?

Cigar
06-12-2012, 01:42 PM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/chasc5/ColeJ20120611_low.jpg

Some people see it differently ... :)

roadmaster
06-12-2012, 01:45 PM
Oh, it's pretty darn serious. Can you see us enduring 4 more years of his FAIL?

No, it is serious and many people are waking up. Some you will never get to, all they see is D.

Peter1469
06-12-2012, 04:20 PM
The corporations are not using their profits to expand the economy because of the president's policies.

Trinnity
06-12-2012, 05:36 PM
And they won't til he's out.
They have to keep things as trim as possible in self defense. They don't know what taxes are coming or new regs, or other fees or even fines related to Obamacare. Obama is almost singlehandedly crashing this economy. HE is the reason the recovery did not really take hold. He's a pariah. A blight. A pox on this nation.

Peter1469
06-12-2012, 06:11 PM
exactly

Deadwood
06-12-2012, 06:24 PM
Well, until not too long ago he was preaching "tax the rich", then he was about "fair" taxation. Considering that Obama has not deigned to share with taxpayers exactly what that means, investors can be forgiven uncertainty.

My investment adviser put it succinctly: with Obama in office investing is very simple; buy gold and hold.

Goldie Locks
06-12-2012, 06:35 PM
This election is about the survival of the Republic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mainecoons
06-12-2012, 07:16 PM
This election is about one statist running against another statist.

Goldie Locks
06-12-2012, 07:22 PM
This election is about one statist running against another statist.


I don't think Romney is a diehard conservative, but I don't think he's a Marxist like Ubama either....I'll take my chance on him, how about you???

Trinnity
06-12-2012, 07:29 PM
This election is about the survival of the Republic!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is GL. And that's exactly why we conservatives have to talk and inform and fight this fight with the sword of our words every day until November.
It's just that important.

It's to the point where I "look" at people who still solidly support him and I think they are either crazy or Marxist. I don't mince words anymore and it's full bore attack, from me, from now on.

As for Stateist....oh hell. Romney is establishment GOP, but Obama is a globalist/Marxist. Which would you pick???

I don't have to think about that one for a second!

Goldie Locks
06-12-2012, 07:32 PM
It is GL. And that's exactly why we conservatives have to talk and inform and fight this fight with the sword of our words every day until November.
It's just that important.

It's to the point where I "look" at people who still solidly support him and I think they are either crazy or Marxist. I don't mince words anymore and it's full bore attack, from me, from now on.


http://clawclawbite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/burrowing_boar-300x201.jpg

Peter1469
06-12-2012, 07:47 PM
I don't think Romney is a diehard conservative, but I don't think he's a Marxist like Ubama either....I'll take my chance on him, how about you???

Too bad we don't have a choice that is not a Statist. Sure Romney is less of a Statist than Obama. But he is still a Statist.

Trinnity
06-12-2012, 07:49 PM
Well Goldie Locks, that's surely a full boar....lol....I wouldn't get near one of those - very aggressive, scary critters. I'll stick with my rhetorical full bore:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jKtH3N3qqXs/T2b78UY2bOI/AAAAAAAARF0/UJn9ZMo9nfo/s320/silenciador_sniper.jpg
this is in no way to be construed as a threat
to any person whatsoever

coolwalker
06-13-2012, 11:24 AM
Oh, it's pretty darn serious. Can you see us enduring 4 more years of his FAIL?

It will only take two more years of his crap to start seeing soup lines like the thirties.In four more years we will have a new flag and we won't recognize any part of it other than the hammer and sickle.

Deadwood
06-13-2012, 11:57 AM
It's also about respect and trust and re-uniting a terribly divided country.

Obama has pected Americans with his blatant lies and throwing money at his banker buddies....and placed as onerous debt on pour grand children. There isn't a single issue which he has not politicized and alienated even moderates on the other end of the spectrum.

The only people "doing OK' are government employees and public sector union members.

He said he wanted a Lincolnesque presidency. He got it. The United States has never been more divided since the civil war...

Trinnity
06-15-2012, 04:39 PM
An acquaintance of mine posted on this same thread on another site, and I wish to share it with you all, as well as the response I gave him there:



Exactly.I'm happy to see you are awake on this issue.You understand this better than half the posters here at this site do.Half if not most,still have their head buried in the sand on this and just dont get it.

I see your coming around on this.Thats great to see. At least half of the posters on this board if not most,have their head buried in the sand and just dont get this.They dont get it that if Paul is not our next president,there is no hope for us to be a free country again anytime in the near future.

They are so afr brainwashed they think Mittens will make any kind of difference.I have given up trying to reason with those people on that,their too far gone brainwashed by what their parents and their parents before them have taught them to even bother with anymore.

Paul is the ONLY candiate who does not believe in the establishments new world order agenda that Bush,Clinton and Obama have all spoken they are in favor of.some people just just dont get that.:roll:You are right, and thank you darlin' for your kind comment. It's too bad this country isn't ready for a real libertarian govt. We will be if we make it through the next 10 years or so.

As to the two candidates, at least Romney is not a closet Marxist pursuing a "fundamental transformation" through stealth - that being regulation. Make no mistake, that is exactly what Obama is doing - a huge amount of dirty work "under the radar" (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/25/obama-were-working-on-gun-control-under-the-radar/) whose impact has not even begun to be felt.*

As for my OP, I know it to be the bottom line truth. Anyone who follows politics 18 hours a day as I do knows this is the deal - in the core of their soul.

The battle for America's survival has not even begun, but I pray we will be able to undo the damage he has done that most people have not even begun to see.

People who support him right down to the ground; the politically astute people on this and other forums are far from naive. They are the far left, the progressives; they are in fact Marxists. They know exactly what's going on just as I do. They need not pretend not to know. But they will anyway. I regard them as cowards not to stand up and declare their complicity and intentions.

They should know this: I know. We know. More of us every day. And we are not gonna stand by and just let them do what they are aiming to do. I guarantee it.

*Fast & Furious was one such attempt. Holder will have destroyed the evidence and resign - taking it to his grave - before he will ever allow the truth to come out. History will judge him corrupt, but will never know just how bad it was.

gophangover
06-18-2012, 09:12 AM
What this election is about is the ideology of America. Right wing fascism or left wing socialism.

Peter1469
06-18-2012, 09:41 AM
What this election is about is the ideology of America. Right wing fascism or left wing socialism.

The problem with that sentence is that both fascism and socialism are Statist movements. There is very little substantive difference between the two- from the point of view of the man on the street. In reality fascism is the antithesis to the right wing, as the term applies to modern American politics.

Trinnity
06-20-2012, 11:30 PM
FF and what we're seeing as the cover-up scandal of the Obama admin is going to be covered much more now and it's just another brick in the wall that this admin is facing for re-election.
Gawd, the list of screw-ups, lies, and failures is longer than Santa's gift list.

Peter1469
06-21-2012, 03:23 PM
FF is so strange. Why would Mexican drug cartels spend hundreds of times more for a semi-auto rifle from the US when it could buy fully automatic AKs for less than $100 apiece in Latin America.

Conley
06-21-2012, 04:19 PM
FF is so strange. Why would Mexican drug cartels spend hundreds of times more for a semi-auto rifle from the US when it could buy fully automatic AKs for less than $100 apiece in Latin America.

Definitely it is really strange, and with all the covering up that's going on it leads me to assume the worst. There has to be more to it and none of it good.

Peter1469
06-21-2012, 04:32 PM
agreed

Mainecoons
06-22-2012, 04:08 PM
FF is so strange. Why would Mexican drug cartels spend hundreds of times more for a semi-auto rifle from the US when it could buy fully automatic AKs for less than $100 apiece in Latin America.

Because the guns and money are in the same country. These guys are having real problems moving their money around these days.

Peter1469
06-22-2012, 04:09 PM
Because the guns and money are in the same country. These guys are having real problems moving their money around these days.

That makes sense.

Mainecoons
06-22-2012, 04:22 PM
It's all about the money. Legalize MJ and 70 percent of the cartels' income disappears overnight.

Trinnity
06-22-2012, 05:08 PM
If they ever legalize it, I'm gonna smoke it.
Until that happens, no.