Political Philosophy Flowchart

[Chris]

Found Political Philosophy Flowchart (http://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2su8cp/political_philosophy_flowchart/) and present it here with minor modifications.

Yes, it's overly simplistic and there are other alternatives. But at a broad level it's fairly accurate, I think.

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[iustitia]

Though you acknowledge oversimplicity, I don't think it's fair to label minarchism as statism. While it's true that US history shows our gradual destruction I think the same goes for any system free or not.

[Chris]

Agree, I wouldn't call minarcism statism, but it historically leads to it, to "grow past explicit limits."

[Green Arrow]

Agree, I wouldn't call minarcism statism, but it historically leads to it, to "grow past explicit limits."

What political philosophy hasn't?

[midcan5]

One must assume the naivete of a eight year old to find anything at all useful in that simplistic nonsense. For those above eight in real world sophistication check out book quoted below.

"My point is that the individual and the government are linked together by an artery. If we act to sever that artery by replacing or opposing a central role for government, we cease to be individuals and revert to the status of subject. If-democracy fails, then it is ultimately the citizen who has failed, not the politician. The politician can always find a new place in a new configuration of power-witness the growing attachment of the elected to private sector interests.

I would argue that to a great extent we are already well engaged in the act of cutting our own arteries-in both the wrists and the throat. If we are slipping into such a foolish act, it is largely because we have allowed ourselves to be convinced by our own elites that the democratic system is a secondary product of the free market system. And so, if the system and its managers-supported by their acolytes in departments of economics around the West and by the invasive buzz of their eager neo-conservative courtiers - if all of these people and institutions indicate that there must be changes, well, we bow our heads in respect." p80 'The Unconscious Civilization' John Ralston Saul

[Chris]

What political philosophy hasn't?

Any form of anarchy.

[Chris]

One must assume the naivete of a eight year old to find anything at all useful in that simplistic nonsense. For those above eight in real world sophistication check out book quoted below.

"My point is that the individual and the government are linked together by an artery. If we act to sever that artery by replacing or opposing a central role for government, we cease to be individuals and revert to the status of subject. If-democracy fails, then it is ultimately the citizen who has failed, not the politician. The politician can always find a new place in a new configuration of power-witness the growing attachment of the elected to private sector interests.

I would argue that to a great extent we are already well engaged in the act of cutting our own arteries-in both the wrists and the throat. If we are slipping into such a foolish act, it is largely because we have allowed ourselves to be convinced by our own elites that the democratic system is a secondary product of the free market system. And so, if the system and its managers-supported by their acolytes in departments of economics around the West and by the invasive buzz of their eager neo-conservative courtiers - if all of these people and institutions indicate that there must be changes, well, we bow our heads in respect." p80 'The Unconscious Civilization' John Ralston Saul



Funny, you follow stupid ad hom with advocacy of statism, iow state socialism/fascism. You can't escape the box you're in if you're unaware of being contained in it.

[Chris]

Any form of anarchy.

The point being any form of state government forms the seed to statism.

The Declaration speaks to out right to abandon the state.

Jefferson spoke of revolution every 20 years.

[nic34]

What political philosophy hasn't?

Beat me to it!

[nic34]

The point being any form of state government forms the seed to statism.

The Declaration speaks to out right to abandon the state.

Jefferson spoke of revolution every 20 years.

I think 20 years was a figure of speech.

It should have started out at every 4 years. :wink:

[Chris]

I think 20 years was a figure of speech.

It should have started out at every 4 years. :wink:

Agree.

It should happen each time the government fails to prtect our natural rights but serves the interests of itself and a few elites.

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"

[Green Arrow]

Any form of anarchy.

Really? So you have examples of anarchist systems that didn't eventually turn statist?

[Chris]

Really? So you have examples of anarchist systems that didn't eventually turn statist?

Yes, much of North and South American Indians, most of what is called Zomia. There seems to be a lot of flux at the borders of the state but outside borderlands, in the hills, the swamps, the forrsts that are hard for the state to reach, the peoples resist the state, always have, probably always will.