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Alyosha
01-24-2015, 12:42 AM
Aleister Crowley, black magician, dubbed the "wickedest man alive" and founder of the magickal Ordo Templi Orientis ("Thelema") has been rightfully called by many the Father of the 20th Century. Most people, I know I used to feel this way, thought he was a marginal figure. What I knew of him was that he was on Sgt Pepper's album cover, Ozzy Osborne wrote a song about him, and (of course) Jimmy Page was obsessed with him. Before I began all my weird studies I just assumed that he was a magician who caught the interest of rock-n-roll types who needed a shtick.

What I found was that he was highly influential among the wealthy families of Europe like the Rothschilds and of the US like the Morgans, the Pierce family (yes, related to President Pierce), the Bushes, the Rockefellers, etc., as well as, scientists in the NASA program, and early Hollywood.

From Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley):


Aleister Crowley (/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English)ˈ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key)k (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key)r (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key)oʊ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key)l (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key)i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key)/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English); born Edward Alexander Crowley; 12 October 1875 – 1 December 1947) was an Englishoccultist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occult), ceremonial magician (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceremonial_magic), poet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry), painter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Painting), novelist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelist), and mountaineer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountaineering). He founded the religion and philosophy ofThelema (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema), in which role he identified himself as the prophet entrusted with guiding humanity into the Ćon of Horus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeon_(Thelema)) in the early 20th century.Born to a wealthy Plymouth Brethren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Brethren) family in Royal Leamington Spa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Leamington_Spa), Warwickshire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire), Crowley rejected thisfundamentalist Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_fundamentalism) faith to pursue an interest in Western esotericism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_esotericism), poetry, and mountaineering. He was educated at the University of Cambridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cambridge), where some biographers allege that he was recruited by a British intelligence agency, further claiming that he remained a spy throughout his life. In 1898 he joined the esoteric Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn), where he was trained in ceremonial magic by Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Liddell_MacGregor_Mathers) and Allan Bennett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Henry_Allan_Bennett). Moving to Boleskine House (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boleskine_House) by Loch Ness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loch_Ness) in Scotland, he travelled to Mexico and then India to study Hindu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism) andBuddhist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism) practices. He married Rose Edith Kelly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Edith_Kelly) and they honeymooned in Cairo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo), Egypt in 1904. There, Crowley claimed to have been contacted by a supernatural entity named Aiwass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiwass), who provided him with The Book of the Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_the_Law), a sacred text that served as the basis for Thelema.
After an unsuccessful attempt to climb Kanchenjunga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_Kanchenjunga_expedition) and a visit to India and China, Crowley returned to Britain where he and George Cecil Jones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cecil_Jones) co-founded the A∴A∴ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A∴A∴) as a Thelemic order in 1907. After spending time in Algeria, in 1912 he was initiated into another esoteric order, the Ordo Templi Orientis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis), rising to become the leader of its British branch, which he reformulated in accordance with his Thelemic beliefs. After spending the First World War in the United States, where he later claimed to have worked for British intelligence services in infiltrating the pro-German lobby, in 1920 he moved to Cefalů (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cefalů) in Sicily, to run a commune known as the Abbey of Thelema (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_of_Thelema). His libertine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertine) lifestyle led to denunciations in the British press, and the Italian government evicted him in 1923. He divided the following two decades between France, Germany, and England, and continued to promote Thelema until his death.
Crowley gained widespread notoriety during his lifetime, being a recreational drug experimenter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_drug_use), bisexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexual) and anindividualist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism)social critic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_criticism). As a result, he was denounced in the popular press as "the wickedest man in the world" and erroneously labelled a Satanist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism). Crowley has remained a highly influential figure over western esotericism and the counter-culture, and continues to be considered a prophet in Thelema. In 2002, a BBC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC) poll ranked him as the seventy-third greatest Briton of all time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley#cite_note-FOOTNOTEChurton20113-2)


Before I get into his links to all the super wealthy I wanted to bring up the scientists who were into Crowley because one would expect frivolous rich people to believe weird shit but not scientists....

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 12:43 AM
John Parsons


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/JackParsons3.jpg/220px-JackParsons3.jpg

from wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons_(rocket_engineer)):


John Whiteside Parsons (born Marvel Whiteside Parsons;[nb 1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons_(rocket_engineer)#cite_note-1) October 2, 1914 – June 17, 1952), better known asJack Parsons, was an American rocket (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerospace_engineering) and chemical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_engineer) engineer, propulsion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacecraft_propulsion) researcher, inventor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention), businessman, writer, and Thelemite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema)occultist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occult). Parsons was associated with the California Institute of Technology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Institute_of_Technology) (Caltech), and was one of the principal founders of both the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Propulsion_Laboratory) (JPL) and the Aerojet Engineering Corporation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerojet). He invented the first castable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castability), composite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_material) solid rocket propellant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propellant), and pioneered the advancement of both liquid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-fuel_rocket) and solid-fuel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-fuel_rocket) rockets.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons_(rocket_engineer)#cite_note-Huntley-2)Born in Los Angeles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles), California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California), Parsons was raised by a wealthy family in Pasadena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasadena,_California). Inspired by science fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction)literature, he developed an interest in rocketry in his childhood and in 1928 began amateur rocket experiments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_rocketry) with school friend Ed Forman (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ed_Forman&action=edit&redlink=1). He was forced to drop out of Pasadena Junior College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasadena_City_College) and Stanford University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_University) due to financial difficulties during the Great Depression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression), but in 1934 he united with Forman and graduate student Frank Malina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Malina)to form the Caltech-affiliated GALCIT Rocket Research Group, supported by Guggenheim Aeronautical Laboratory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guggenheim_Aeronautical_Laboratory)chairman Theodore von Kármán (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_von_K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n). In 1939 they gained funding from the National Academy of Sciences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Academy_of_Sciences) (NAS) to work on Jet-Assisted Take Off (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JATO) (JATO) for the U.S. military. In 1942 they founded Aerojet to develop and sell their JATO technology; the Group became JPL in 1943.
After a brief involvement in Marxism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism), in 1939 Parsons converted to Thelema, the English occultist Aleister Crowley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley)'snew religious movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_religious_movement). In 1941 he joined the Agape Lodge, the Californian branch of the Thelemite Ordo Templi Orientis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis) (OTO). At Crowley's bidding, he replaced Wilfred Talbot Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_Talbot_Smith) as its leader in 1942 and ran the Lodge from his mansion on Orange Grove Avenue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Grove_Boulevard_(Pasadena)), Pasadena. With his friend L. Ron Hubbard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard) he conducted the Babalon Working (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babalon_Working), a series of rituals designed to invoke the Thelemic goddess Babalon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babalon) to Earth. They continued the procedure withMarjorie Cameron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Cameron), whom Parsons married in 1946. After Hubbard and former girlfriend Sara Northrup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Northrup_Hollister) defrauded him of his life savings, Parsons resigned from the OTO and went through various jobs while acting as a consultant for the Israeli rocket program. Amid the climate of McCarthyism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism) he was accused of espionage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage) and left unable to work in rocketry. In 1952 Parsons died in a home laboratory explosion at the age of 37; the police ruled it an accident, but many associates suspected suicide or murder.
Parsons' death attracted national attention, and his occult and individualist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism) polemical writings, as well as some of his poetry, were published posthumously. Scientific historians recognize Parsons' contributions to rocket propulsion chemistry and design, while occultists cite him as one of the most significant figures in propagating Thelema across North America. For his innovations in rocketry, advocacy of space exploration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_exploration) and human spaceflight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_spaceflight), and his role in the founding of JPL, Parsons is regarded as among the most important figures in the history of the U.S. space program. He has been the subject of several biographies and fictionalized portrayals.





Note that L. Ron Hubbard (of scientology fame)is a friend of Parsons and Sara Northrup, yes as in Northrup Grummond.

I'm tired but tomorrow (maybe) I'll write about the Daniel J. Crowley of Raytheon.

Common
01-24-2015, 12:47 AM
Everytime I read one of your posts I think im in college :) half the time I cant figure them out and Id bet theres more than me that cant. follow you either, Im just dumb enough to admit it lol...

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 12:54 AM
Everytime I read one of your posts I think im in college :) half the time I cant figure them out and Id bet theres more than me that cant. follow you either, Im just dumb enough to admit it lol...

We'll just learn together!

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 12:55 AM
Alyosha - if you take requests...L. Ron Hubbard is someone I'm very curious about!

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:02 AM
I was going to do one on Hubbard and his relationship with Crowley but I wasn't sure if people would like to hear more about the Bush family connection to this man who dubbed himself "the Anti-Christ" or Hubbard.

Crowley believed in "magick" with a "k" and not religion. He believed magick was science, which could be why he attracted so many of the NASA people to him. They even believed they channeled an "alien" called "LAM". Look at this drawing of "Lam" and tell me if he doesn't look like a gray alien:

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9d0ab315e35b.jpg

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:04 AM
Everytime I read one of your posts I think im in college :) half the time I cant figure them out and Id bet theres more than me that cant. follow you either, Im just dumb enough to admit it lol...

I'm a nerd. What can I say?

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 01:11 AM
I was reading the description of Babalon...Crowley seemed to be afraid of women...or enslavement to women...at least that is what I picked up....

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:12 AM
This one was a longtime whisper, then a rumor, then years of wiki coverups (look at the edits on the pages between "writers") but from what I can tell the dates all make sense. I won't say it's "true" but I'll say based on dates, locations, connections that it could be true.

I'll go more into it tomorrow.

http://i2.wp.com/www.howardnema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/BARBARA-CROWLEY.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wZmWpnIdfrI/URh3Le1WSQI/AAAAAAAAF8k/qKSaAmpzdQY/s1600/bcdualmatch.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/nh1mol.jpg



This one deserves more time but sorta wanted to get the whole thing kicked off. I have to present evidence, present the would be debunker's questions, and then the rebuttal so it will take a bit.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:13 AM
I was reading the description of Babalon...Crowley seemed to be afraid of women...or enslavement to women...at least that is what I picked up....

He was a bisexual but said he preferred women and by his lifestyle that's true. Most bisexuals prefer men, but he actually preferred women. He also felt that the Holiest being was a female (Isis).

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 01:16 AM
The image he described of the holy female just seemed to be half worship/half fear...

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:16 AM
It should be noted that Pauline Pierce was alleged to have also had the sexy times with Eisenhower and many Hollywood figures in addition to Crowley, but again I'll explain more tomorrow.

Common
01-24-2015, 01:17 AM
I'm a nerd. What can I say?

nah your a bright educated young woman like a couple of my daughters, but they know to talk down So I can understand them lol.

BTW I read L Ron Hubbards book in the 70s. It was given to be by a cop who resigned to become a John Birch Society pitchman. I had NO idea what the john birch society was about then and I never participated in it. We knew each other and were on good terms.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:20 AM
The image he described of the holy female just seemed to be half worship/half fear...

Yes, a lot of magicians believed these things. If you read the Zohar (Jewish Mysticism) and are into kabbalah you'll note that what we call "Lucifer" in Judeo-Christian tradition takes on the feminine in Jewish cabalism. The qualities of these ancient deities and being enraptured by the female has a lot to do with the fear of women and women's power.

That whole original sin business, Lilith in Jewish lore, T'iamat, Isis, Venus, Ishtar, Columbia...all of that probably led to the physically stronger sex having to dominate us by law (Jews, Muslim, etc) or custom (Greeks).

Common
01-24-2015, 01:20 AM
It should be noted that Pauline Pierce was alleged to have also had the sexy times with Eisenhower and many Hollywood figures in addition to Crowley, but again I'll explain more tomorrow.

I cant even picture eisenhower being sexy lol

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 01:22 AM
Yes, a lot of magicians believed these things. If you read the Zohar (Jewish Mysticism) and are into kabbalah you'll note that what we call "Lucifer" in Judeo-Christian tradition takes on the feminine in Jewish cabalism. The qualities of these ancient deities and being enraptured by the female has a lot to do with the fear of women and women's power.

That whole original sin business, Lilith in Jewish lore, T'iamat, Isis, Venus, Ishtar, Columbia...all of that probably led to the physically stronger sex having to dominate us by law (Jews, Muslim, etc) or custom (Greeks).

which produced such as: But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:24 AM
I cant even picture eisenhower being sexy lol

These people that rule over us have never had the same "values" as us. They led strange secret lives. Crowley before he created the OTO was in the Order of the Golden Dawn. Other notables who were in the Order of the Golden Dawn were:

Keynes (the economist)
Virginia Woolf
Oscar Wilde and his wife (she initiated him into it)
Churchill (when he was younger)

I mean, the more you read, the deeper it goes and at a certain point you really believe you are Alice down the rabbit hole.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:25 AM
which produced such as: But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion

I do think the whole Greek misogynist culture (they were the worst) with the learned homosexuality in Athens had so much to do with the worship of Venus in other parts of Greece, so they took the sexuality out of goddesses and chose a male identified, virgin goddess Athena.

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 01:38 AM
Fear of control by women through sex?

Common
01-24-2015, 01:42 AM
These people that rule over us have never had the same "values" as us. They led strange secret lives. Crowley before he created the OTO was in the Order of the Golden Dawn. Other notables who were in the Order of the Golden Dawn were:

Keynes (the economist)
Virginia Woolf
Oscar Wilde and his wife (she initiated him into it)
Churchill (when he was younger)

I mean, the more you read, the deeper it goes and at a certain point you really believe you are Alice down the rabbit hole.

Im not naive ally I realize those that rule many had peculiarities. Ive seen some of it first hand and was even told to unsee what I saw a couple of times. Nothing shocks me, ive long ago been desensitized.

Common
01-24-2015, 01:43 AM
I do think the whole Greek misogynist culture (they were the worst) with the learned homosexuality in Athens had so much to do with the worship of Venus in other parts of Greece, so they took the sexuality out of goddesses and chose a male identified, virgin goddess Athena.

I think thats the first time ive ever heard anyone say that homosexuality is learned. I am considerate of others feelings mostly but Ive always believed some homosexuality is learned behavior or chosen behavior.

GrassrootsConservative
01-24-2015, 01:45 AM
I think thats the first time ive ever heard anyone say that homosexuality is learned. I am considerate of others feelings mostly but Ive always believed some homosexuality is learned behavior or chosen behavior.

Of course it's learned. Nobody is ever born gay. It's unnatural.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:48 AM
I think thats the first time ive ever heard anyone say that homosexuality is learned. I am considerate of others feelings mostly but Ive always believed some homosexuality is learned behavior or chosen behavior.

last post before bed... in Athens it was, but in general I believe you are born with a preference.

Green Arrow
01-24-2015, 02:07 AM
I am highly interested in the Crowley-Bush connection. I've heard lots of the rumours, and I'm pretty open to being a believer. I mean, picture evidence alone makes it pretty obvious that Babs is Crowley's little girl.

donttread
01-24-2015, 07:13 AM
Aleister Crowley, black magician, dubbed the "wickedest man alive" and founder of the magickal Ordo Templi Orientis ("Thelema") has been rightfully called by many the Father of the 20th Century. Most people, I know I used to feel this way, thought he was a marginal figure. What I knew of him was that he was on Sgt Pepper's album cover, Ozzy Osborne wrote a song about him, and (of course) Jimmy Page was obsessed with him. Before I began all my weird studies I just assumed that he was a magician who caught the interest of rock-n-roll types who needed a shtick.

What I found was that he was highly influential among the wealthy families of Europe like the Rothschilds and of the US like the Morgans, the Pierce family (yes, related to President Pierce), the Bushes, the Rockefellers, etc., as well as, scientists in the NASA program, and early Hollywood.

From Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley):




Before I get into his links to all the super wealthy I wanted to bring up the scientists who were into Crowley because one would expect frivolous rich people to believe weird shit but not scientists....

Are you going down the "Blue Bloods" rabbit hole?

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 11:46 AM
Alyosha
Cover the Bush family link before Hubbard. That has more relevance to today's politics.

Ravens Fan
01-24-2015, 12:08 PM
Very interesting topics. I have nothing to add, just enjoying learning about it.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 01:36 PM
@Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)
Cover the Bush family link before Hubbard. That has more relevance to today's politics.

Well, I'd think this connections to the Military Industrial Complex, NASA, Hollywood and the CIA are more fascinating since I thought it was common knowledge that he was mixed up with the blue bloods, so to speak.

But...okay. I aim to please.

Polecat
01-24-2015, 01:40 PM
The web of evil is too far fetched to be believed. This is exactly how it has flourished over centuries.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 02:09 PM
Much of this information on the "Pierce" connection was more readily available a few years ago but since it started coming out things like her wiki page were deleted and you're stuck with old books and microfiche.

Example, Wiki is now gone:


This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.

00:41, 21 November 2008 Fuhghettaboutit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fuhghettaboutit) (talk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fuhghettaboutit) | contribs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fuhghettaboutit)) deleted page Pauline Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pauline_Robinson&action=edit&redlink=1) (WP:PROD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PROD), reason was 'Relationships do not confer notability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTINHERITED)'.)
00:52, 17 March 2008 Mr.Z-man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mr.Z-man) (talk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mr.Z-man) | contribs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mr.Z-man)) deleted page Pauline Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pauline_Robinson&action=edit&redlink=1) (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pauline Robinson (2nd nomination) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pauline_Robinson_(2nd_nomination)))



Barbara Bush is the child of Marvin Pierce (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Pierce) and and Pauline Robinson, married in 1918. Marvin Pierce was the president of the McCall's corporation (Redbook and McCalls) and directly related to the US President of the same surname. Pauline Robinson was an Ohio beauty queen who had ties to a great many famous and well-connected people. According to several trade magazines of the day Pauline Robinson was:


W magazine once described her as "beautiful, fabulous, critical, and meddling" and "a former beauty from Ohio with extravagant tastes"...

They had four children together before she died at the age of 54 years old in a car accident with her husband. Barbara Bush was born to Pauline in 1925 after an extended holiday that Pauline had taken on the continent to visit with friends (http://books.google.com/books/about/Barbara_Bush.html?id=q0qdrPsi0eEC).

Marvin and Pauline were good friends with adventuress Nellie O'Hara and her common law husband the famous writer Frank Harris:


Frank Harris (February 14, 1856 – August 26, 1931) was an editor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing), journalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist) and publisher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publisher), who was friendly with many well-known figures of his day. Born in Ireland, he emigrated to America early in life, working in a variety of unskilled jobs before attending the University of Kansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Kansas) to read law. He eventually became a citizen there. After graduation he quickly tired of his legal career and returned to Europe in 1882. He travelled on continental Europe before settling in London to pursue a career in journalism. Though he attracted much attention during his life for his irascible, aggressive personality, editorship of famous periodicals, and friendship with the talented and famous, he is remembered mainly for his multiple-volume memoir My Life and Loves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Life_and_Loves), which was banned in countries around the world for its sexual explicitness.

Frank Harris was friends with: Constance Lloyd-Wild and Oscar Wilde (will get to their connection to the Order of the Golden Dawn later--post initiation is when Wilde because a bisexual), Virginia Woolf, George Bernard Shaw, John Maynard Keynes, H.G. Wells, and Cole Porter to name a few. His most notable work describes the type of sexual debauchery this group was known for. It was more than rampant bisexuality but the ephebophilia (sex with young teens) which got many of them thrown into asylums or jail.

These people were known for having sex parties, orgies, etc.

Nellie O'Hara invited Pauline to stay with her and travel the continent as women of wealth were expected to do in those days (see A Room With a View). We know only that they did travel together and we know that they shared a residence at one point with Aleister Crowley while in France.

In Crowley's diary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_of_a_Drug_Fiend) he describes the following:


January 3rd 1924 - "No luck about cash yet: but F.H. promises 500 fr to-morrow - so that I can bolt to Paris. One step onward to the Establishment of the Law of Thelema.

F. H. being "Frank Harris" his benefactor a the time.

If you read his diaries, Crowley did not name names but did name positions (PVN--which stands for "By way of the Infernal Entrance."--anal sex)

We know there were orgies in the dwelling but cannot say for sure that Pauline was involved in them. We only know that she returned home to the United States and 7 months later had Barbara Bush.

It's possible that she had Barbara early. It happens. It's also possible that Barbara Bush pulled her features from people far back in her ancestry. It's also possible that Pauline, someone known for her liaisons with people such as Eisenhower and others could have also had a liaison with Crowley.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 02:12 PM
To note: much of magick is that of inversion, taking a Christian or Jewish ritual and inverting it to get the opposite effect. If vaginal sex creates life, then anal sex will conjure death. In the works of Crowley he stated his attraction for women but said that he allowed himself from time to time to be the receiver of anal sex because it's sadism allowed him to invert natural life and invoke either death or draw within himself a spirit from another dimension.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 02:14 PM
You will note that Crowley was a socialist because he believed that it would lead to a stable system for the elites if the masses (which he cared little for) were given enough not to revolt the strong could live as they wished.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 02:14 PM
PolWatch L.R. Hubbard now?

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 02:31 PM
Before I go further, Crowley got his start with the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn):


The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (or, more commonly, the Golden Dawn) was an organization devoted to the study and practice of the occult (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occult), metaphysics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics), and paranormal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal) activities during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Known as amagical order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_organization), the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was active in Great Britain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain)and focused its practices on theurgy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theurgy) and spiritual development. Many present-day concepts of ritual and magic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_(paranormal)) that are at the centre of contemporary traditions, such as Wicca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn#cite_note-Colquhoun-1)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn#cite_note-2) and Thelema (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema), were inspired by the Golden Dawn, which became one of the largest single influences on 20th-century Western occultism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occultism).[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn#cite_note-3)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn#cite_note-4)
The three founders, William Robert Woodman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Robert_Woodman), William Wynn Westcott (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wynn_Westcott), and Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Liddell_MacGregor_Mathers) were Freemasons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasons) and members of Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas_Rosicruciana_in_Anglia) (S.R.I.A.).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn#cite_note-5) Westcott appears to have been the initial driving force behind the establishment of the Golden Dawn.


The Golden Dawn system was based on hierarchy and initiation like the Masonic Lodges (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_Lodge); however women were admitted on an equal basis with men. The "Golden Dawn" was the first of three Orders, although all three are often collectively referred to as the "Golden Dawn". The First Order taught esoteric philosophy based on theHermetic Qabalah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Qabalah) and personal development through study and awareness of thefour Classical Elements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Elements) as well as the basics of astrology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology), tarot divination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarot_divination), andgeomancy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomancy). The Second or "Inner" Order, the Rosae Rubeae et Aureae Crucis (the Ruby Rose and Cross of Gold), taught proper magic, including scrying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrying), astral travel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_projection), and alchemy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy). The Third Order was that of the "Secret Chiefs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Chiefs)", who were said to be highly skilled; they supposedly directed the activities of the lower two orders by spirit communication with the Chiefs of the Second Order

Famous members other than Crowley include Bram Stoker, William Butler Yeats, and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 02:38 PM
Other close associates and followers included the sexual provocateur Alfred Kinsey.

Here he is with Kenneth Anger viewing Crowley's "frescoes" in Italy

http://fromthebarrelhouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/kinseyandkennethangerattheabbeyofthelema.jpg?w=614

In retrospect we know what a pervert Kinsey was (his association with known pedophiles, classifying "crying" and "pain" as pleasure in his statistics) but at the time before the investigation into his methodology he was pretty much "hot shit" and de rigueur at many scene parties.

Kinsey was also friends with John "Jack" Parsons (see post #2).

EDIT: Kinsey was (at the time) portrayed as a typical married family man when his report came out, again we know this is not true as later investigation would show. He was also a huge proponent of eugenics (http://www.textbookhistory.com/alfred-kinsey-teaching-eugenics-and-evolution/).


Two interesting quotes: First, concerning eugenics, Kinsey writes, “Only recently have there been indications that eugenics is going to find a permanent place both in high school and college teaching. Events of the last decade have made the younger generation wonder how far genetic factors account for the dependence of a third of the population on the other two-thirds, even in times of prosperity.”

Kinsey was also heavily interested in the extreme with pedophilia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey):


Kinsey collected sexual material from around the world, which brought him to the attention of U.S. Customs when they seized some pornographic films in 1956; he died before this matter was resolved legally.[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey#cite_note-pbs-26)

Kinsey wrote about pre-adolescent orgasms using data in tables 30 to 34 of the male volume, which report observations of orgasms in over three-hundred children between the ages of five months and fourteen years.[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey#cite_note-kinsey-tables-30) This information was said to have come from adults' childhood memories, or from parent or teacher observation.[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey#cite_note-kinsey-inst-31) Kinsey said he also interviewed nine men who had sexual experiences with children, and who told him about the children's responses and reactions. Little attention was paid to this part of Kinsey's research at the time, but where Kinsey had gained this information began to be questioned nearly 40 years later.[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey#cite_note-BeyondBed-32) It was later revealed that Kinsey used data from a single pedophile and presented it as being from various sources. Kinsey had seen the need for participant confidentiality and anonymity as necessary to gain "honest answers on such taboo subjects".[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey#cite_note-33)[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey#cite_note-Pool-34) The Kinsey Institute wrote that the data on children in tables 31–34 came from one man's journal (started in 1917) and that the events concerned predated the Kinsey Reports.[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey#cite_note-Pool-34)[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey#cite_note-35)

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 02:57 PM
Here was Crowley's obsession, his "Scarlet Woman". I think she's kind of homely, but...

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e3/55/e7/e355e75af2c83de69bf7fb5acd4e10c6.jpg

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 03:08 PM
I had not heard of the Bush family association with the occult before. But I knew of their association with the international bankers and the intelligence community. So the occult connect is perfectly natural.

Common
01-24-2015, 03:19 PM
You people are baffling, I refuse to participate in something im far to intellectually advanced to understand.

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 03:24 PM
You people are baffling, I refuse to participate in something im far to intellectually advanced to understand.

Just read and learn. The ancient arts have not been forgotten by all.

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 03:26 PM
The resemblance is eye catching....Bush/Crowley. I wonder if there has been any inquiry about this or just glossed over?

Question: Qabalah - Jewish Kabbalah Mysticism ....related studies/belief or just co-incidence of similar sounding?

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 03:29 PM
I had not heard of the Bush family association with the occult before. But I knew of their association with the international bankers and the intelligence community. So the occult connect is perfectly natural.

I forgot...Aleister Crowley was part of British Intelligence (http://ac2012.com/2012/08/05/aleister-crowley-myths-actually-true/).


Ian Fleming, the future author of the James Bondnovels, was at that time a Navy intelligence officer. He knew Crowley and hatched several schemes to use Crowley to feed misinformation to the Nazis through Rudolph Hess. it is widely speculated that the eventual capture of Hess was thanks to Aleister Crowley’s work as a spy.

Crowley also seems to have done this in World War I when he created some badly written pro-German propaganda, clearly intended to make the Germans look bad.
You can learn all about Aleister Crowley’s activities as a spook in Secret Agent 666 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1932595333?ie=UTF8&camp=213733&creative=393185&creativeASIN=1932595333&linkCode=shr&tag=ss93-20&keywords=secret%20agent%20666&qid=1344123577&ref_=sr_1_1&s=books&sr=1-1), by Richard Spence.

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Agent-666-Aleister-Intelligence/dp/1932595333

The "V for Victory Sign" that Churchill used came from Crowley to magically invert the Swastika (btw, Crowley liked Hitler and Stalin in the beginning and thought they had great ideas but when Hitler told him to fuck off after he wrote him a letter he changed his mind).


In the magical hexagram … the descending red triangle is that of Horus, a sign specially revealed by him personally, at the Equinox of the Gods. — The Book of Lies (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0877285160?ie=UTF8&camp=213733&creative=393185&creativeASIN=0877285160&linkCode=shr&tag=ss93-20)

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 03:30 PM
The resemblance is eye catching....Bush/Crowley. I wonder if there has been any inquiry about this or just glossed over?

Question: Qabalah - Jewish Kabbalah Mysticism ....related studies/belief or just co-incidence of similar sounding?

Same thing, different spelling.

But most if not all of the mystery schools teach the same thing. When the bible says God created man in his image- what does that mean? :smiley:

Common
01-24-2015, 03:30 PM
Just read and learn. The ancient arts have not been forgotten by all.

I do read it, but at my age I cant figure out why its important to me lol. Acutally I just like to pull allys chain, the gal is light years ahead of me, Im just try to hang on for the ride :)

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 03:30 PM
The resemblance is eye catching....Bush/Crowley. I wonder if there has been any inquiry about this or just glossed over?

Question: Qabalah - Jewish Kabbalah Mysticism ....related studies/belief or just co-incidence of similar sounding?

It's the same. When you translate from symbolic type languages or languages with different alphabets you come across different spelling systems. Qabalah-Kabbalah Q'uaran-Koran.

I've studied Kabbalah for over a decade now. I had a huge thread on it at another place and of course it got shit on by people who don't believe in magick and so I just stopped.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 03:32 PM
I do read it, but at my age I cant figure out why its important to me lol. Acutally I just like to pull allys chain, the gal is light years ahead of me, Im just try to hang on for the ride :)

Why is it important? Most of the 1% of the world believe in the Occult and were either benefactors of Crowleys (the Rothschild family) or members of the Rosicrucians and Hermetic orders all while pretending to be "Christians" or pious Jews.
@Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659)

Actual place-setting at a Rothschild party

http://static.messynessychic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/rothschildparty3.jpg


The baroness in her symbolic headdress and baron

http://36.media.tumblr.com/ce20ed1ec66667838b25716b45ee2e1d/tumblr_mrzfhomQnU1rdq9c9o5_500.jpg


These are the people we are dealing with:

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/img_nathan_mayer_rothschild_quote_fullscreen.jpg?w =525&h=393

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 03:32 PM
I do read it, but at my age I cant figure out why its important to me lol. Acutally I just like to pull allys chain, the gal is light years ahead of me, Im just try to hang on for the ride :)

Don't tell her that. We are tying to keep her here in the realm of humans.

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 03:35 PM
I do read it, but at my age I cant figure out why its important to me lol. Acutally I just like to pull allys chain, the gal is light years ahead of me, Im just try to hang on for the ride :)

my opinion (for what its worth): I spent 50+ years of life working with no extra time (or energy) to explore subjects not directly related to income. Now I can learn about anything that catches my eye. I'm like a kid in a candy store with a Visa card!

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 03:39 PM
I find Aleister Crowley both amusing humorous and scary. You read his works and he's funny as hell. I would imagine if there is a single "Satan" he'd be much like Crowley.

You can't help but like Crowley but the more you dig or research him--if you own copies of his books, strange things happen around you. I had my "777" book fly off the shelf at my Brooklyn apartment when Code and I were arguing about something.

Common
01-24-2015, 03:41 PM
Why is it important? Most of the 1% of the world believe in the Occult and were either benefactors of Crowleys (the Rothschild family) or members of the Rosicrucians and Hermetic orders all while pretending to be "Christians" or pious Jews.
@Common (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=659)

Actual place-setting at a Rothschild party

http://static.messynessychic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/rothschildparty3.jpg


The baroness in her symbolic headdress and baron

http://36.media.tumblr.com/ce20ed1ec66667838b25716b45ee2e1d/tumblr_mrzfhomQnU1rdq9c9o5_500.jpg


These are the people we are dealing with:

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/img_nathan_mayer_rothschild_quote_fullscreen.jpg?w =525&h=393

Ally, I very much believe there are occult worshippers ive seen some with my own eyes and I also believe the most influential took part in it. Ive read this thread and I agree with you. I do admit having to read some parts 3 times though :) hey gimme credit im trying to keep up :)

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 03:42 PM
Crowley was a high level mage and belonged to several orders, among them the Rosicrucian (you'll note they have ties to the Catholic Jesuits)

http://www.rosicrucian.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism


Rosicrucianism is a philosophical secret society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_society) said[by whom? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Words_to_watch#Unsupported_attributions)] to have been founded in late medieval Germany by Christian Rosenkreuz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Rosenkreuz). It holds a doctrine or theology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology) "built on esoteric truths of the ancient past", which, "concealed from the average man, provide insight into nature, the physical universe and the spiritual realm."[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism#cite_note-1)Rosicrucianism is symbolized by the Rosy Cross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_Cross).Between 1607 and 1616, two anonymous manifestos were published, first in Germany and later throughout Europe.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism#cite_note-2) These were the Fama Fraternitatis RC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fama_Fraternitatis) (The Fame of the Brotherhood of RC) and the Confessio Fraternitatis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessio_Fraternitatis) (The Confession of the Brotherhood of RC). The influence of these documents, presenting a "most laudable Order" of mystic-philosopher-doctors and promoting a "Universal Reformation of Mankind", gave rise to an enthusiasm called by its historian Dame Frances Yates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Yates) the "Rosicrucian Enlightenment".[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism#cite_note-Yates.2C_Frances_A_1972-3)
Rosicrucianism was associated with Protestantism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism) (Lutheranism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutheranism) in particular),[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism#cite_note-origins-4) and the manifestos opposed Roman Catholicism and its preference for dogma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogma) over empiricism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empiricism). They traced their philosophy and science to the Moors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors), asserting that it had been kept secret for 120 years until the intellectual climate might receive it.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
Early seventeenth-century occult philosophers such as Michael Maier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Maier), Robert Fludd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fludd) and Thomas Vaughan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Vaughan_(philosopher))interested themselves in the Rosicrucian world view.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism#cite_note-Yates.2C_Frances_A_1972-3) According to historian David Stevenson it was also influential to Freemasonry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry) as it was emerging in Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism#cite_note-origins-4) In later centuries, many esoteric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esotericism) societies have claimed to derive their doctrines, in whole or in part, from the original Rosicrucians. Several modern societies have been formed for the study of Rosicrucianism and allied subjects.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 03:43 PM
Ally, I very much believe there are occult worshippers ive seen some with my own eyes and I also believe the most influential took part in it. Ive read this thread and I agree with you. I do admit having to read some parts 3 times though :) hey gimme credit im trying to keep up :)

Yes, me too. DC is filled with them, but I hate to go into personal experience as that's just anecdotal and meaningless as I am a stranger to you all.

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 03:46 PM
I seem to remember that Crowley was involved in espionage about the same time/place as Julia Child & her husband...Child was in India in the early (?) 40's and I think her bio mentioned Crowley...but I'm not going to swear my memory is correct.

iustitia
01-24-2015, 03:51 PM
If I was well off I'd finance you writing a book. I honestly have not heard of anything in this topic.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 03:52 PM
I seem to remember that Crowley was involved in espionage about the same time/place as Julia Child & her husband...Child was in India in the early (?) 40's and I think her bio mentioned Crowley...but I'm not going to swear my memory is correct.

Yes, this is true. PolWatch I intend to go into his other less well known friends, but I'm about to splinter the topic for Common in another thread because I think he'd like what I'm about to post.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 03:53 PM
If I was well off I'd finance you writing a book. I honestly have not heard of anything in this topic.
Green Arrow, Peter1469 and I have thought about doing an online radio show.

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 03:53 PM
If I was well off I'd finance you writing a book. I honestly have not heard of anything in this topic.


Read Crowley's' own words first. (http://www.amazon.com/Aleister-Crowley/e/B000AQ3JP2)

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 04:15 PM
Crowley, an avid study of cabalism took the gesture for the number "6" and not only popularized it (along with the "V") but made placing it over the eye a magical gesture of meeting man to god (the one eye is the symbol of Horus). He also gave us the famed rock-n-roll hand gesture as well. But we can look at the placement of the "6" and the "eye" as being entirely relevant to today.

Self portrait (he was a Yogi master, as well) note the "6"

http://hermetic.com/crowley/images/crowley-yoga.jpg



http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/hi4ff3885d.jpg

All of the above read Crowley and have songs or albums dedicated to him.

The Baphomet symbol of the "hook 'em horns" and rock-n-roll gesture

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee54/Asstryd/DioMaloik.jpg

This is the symbol of "Ra" or the Egyptian version of "Saturn" or Jehovah--the "All Mighty God".

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Qt8TZ0hYHiE/hqdefault.jpg


It is a pyramid sign with knowledge at the top

http://truthquake.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/gloria-steinem-i-had-an-abortion-illuminati-pyramid-golden-dawn-cult-aleister-crowley-feminism-ms-magazine-freemason-mason-devil-satanic-evil-black-magic-magick-witchcraft-riahnna-roc-jay-z-kanye-west.jpg

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/jayz_illuminati.jpg

iustitia
01-24-2015, 04:18 PM
@Green Arrow (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=868), @Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10) and I have thought about doing an online radio show.

If I was well off I'd finance you, GA and Peter doing a radio show.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 04:19 PM
There is this symbol which means "love under will"

http://assets.fightland.com/content-images/contentimage/51503/crowley2.jpg


Note the pedophile Saville also uses it (also a Crowley reader)

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2lucjo9.jpg

iustitia
01-24-2015, 04:23 PM
Read Crowley's' own words first. (http://www.amazon.com/Aleister-Crowley/e/B000AQ3JP2)

The thing about books is the structure they provide. I needs dates and bullet points and chapters. I need information segregated and organized. My mind is very restrictive to the kind of information I can absorb even though I boast an eidetic memory. It's why all my history posts list everything chronologically according to the best of my ability.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/29832-Did-FDR-push-Japan-into-attacking

^For instance, I used several sources for the above information but painstakingly structured events by dates. Timelines are very useful learning tools for people like me (idiots).

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 04:54 PM
Jimmy Page and Aleister Crowley (okay I rushed because this is my favorite connection--I love Jimmy Page and Zeppelin)

http://www.whale.to/b/pagesatan9i8.jpg


Jimmy Page first discovered Crowley and magick at 15. At 16 he became a studio musician. He also became obsessed with Robert Johnson (but I could do a whole thread on that).

When he became rich he bought both of Crowley's homes, the most famous Boleskine House in Scotland on Loch Ness.

http://www.jimmypage.co.uk/tumblr_kqv2hgceuu1qzecl1o1_500.jpg

He did the soundtrack for Kenneth Anger's Lucifer Rising film along with Bobby Beausoleil (yes of Charles Manson fame), Marianne Faithful and some others.

This film is based off the works of Crowley that he wrote at the pyramids of Egypt when he met the entity which described Thelema to him.

http://www.spookyisles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Jimmy-Pages-Lucifer-Rising.jpg


Jimmy Page was also friends with William Burroughs (who was also friends before he died with Kurt Kobain and allegedly had anal sex magick with him according to Courtney Love)


http://endofthegame.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/zepburroughs.jpg


For Led Zeppelin IV it was Page that asked everyone to choose a symbol. To this day he refuses to talk about why he chose "Zoso"

http://mysteryoftheinquity.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/led-zepplin-satanic-symbols1.jpg?w=1024



Interesting article on the current number of exorcisms associated with the demon known as "Zozo"

http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/ghost-adventures/episodes/zozo-demon

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 04:57 PM
The thing about books is the structure they provide. I needs dates and bullet points and chapters. I need information segregated and organized. My mind is very restrictive to the kind of information I can absorb even though I boast an eidetic memory. It's why all my history posts list everything chronologically according to the best of my ability.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/29832-Did-FDR-push-Japan-into-attacking

^For instance, I used several sources for the above information but painstakingly structured events by dates. Timelines are very useful learning tools for people like me (idiots).

If you want to learn the ancient arts, patience is your only friend. It is too dangerous to charge ahead and skip steps. And judgement is your second friend. Don't go further than you are comfortable with.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 05:04 PM
The influence continues. Jay-Z and his wife, two people with White House access are now Crowley devotees.

https://alexonfaith.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/jay_z_crowley.jpg


http://www.illuminati-symbols.com/image-files/beyonce-illuminati-all-seeing-eye.jpg


Baphomet ring

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_I_rRqZjTqu0/S-MZv31HH9I/AAAAAAAAAdk/eBaFmCAr2Jk/s1600/Beyonce_Baphomet_ring.jpg

This is the woman that Michelle Obama says is an "excellent role model for young girls"

http://beginningandend.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Beyonce-With-Crown-Haunted-Video-Satanic-e1391787233948.jpg

iustitia
01-24-2015, 05:06 PM
^What in the actual fuck. I'm glad I stay away from popular culture.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 05:09 PM
And lest we think these symbols have no meaning

https://watchertimes.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/395758_2784373624399_2091191050_n.jpg


http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/slide_205376_623590_large.jpeg?w=550&h=400


http://www.hollywoodinsiders.net/dark/loveu/31.jpg

http://www.hollywoodinsiders.net/dark/loveu/42.jpg


http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/HandSignObama.jpg


Consider this...

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 05:13 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iUV02hwjb-o/T5dBnoUuCNI/AAAAAAAAAac/NSU9UIA_svw/s1600/anton+lavey+hand+sign.jpg


Anton LaVey uses that symbols and so did Susan Atkins--who is she?

She was an initiate in LaVey's Church of Satan

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Susan-Atkins-Anton-LaVey-Sadie-Mae-Glutz.jpg

And a member of the Manson family...notice the gesture?


http://illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/IlluminatiWatcherDotCom-Susan-Atkins-666-eye-300x182.jpg

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/IlluminatiWatcherDotCom-Charles-Manson-Quote1.jpg

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 05:17 PM
And now connect this to the establishment of our two political parties.

The people, sheep, have been asleep for far too long.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 05:18 PM
And now connect this to the establishment of our two political parties.

The people, sheep, have been asleep for far too long.

You know there are some who believe Bill Clinton is related to the Bush family, right?

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 05:19 PM
You know there are some who believe Bill Clinton is related to the Bush family, right?

??? I haven't heard that one....

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 05:21 PM
You know there are some who believe Bill Clinton is related to the Bush family, right?

I did not know that. Do tell.

It should not be a surprise- the last several decades of presidents have been related somehow.

And the sheep vote (D) or (R) and think they matter.

iustitia
01-24-2015, 05:24 PM
I've heard FDR was related to like 12 other presidents, Churchill, and the Romans...


The Delano family proudly traces its ancestors back to the Actii, a 600 B.C. Roman family. They are equally proud of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Indeed, the Delanos claim that the Delano influence was the predominant factor in FDR's life work and accounts for his extraordinary achievements. Be that as it may, there is no question that the Delano side of the family links FDR to many other rulers and other politicians. According to the Delano family history,12 "Franklin shared common ancestry with one third of his predecessors in the White House." The Presidents linked to FDR on the Delano side are John Adams, James Madison, John Quincy Adams, William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Andrew Johnson, Ulysses S. Grant, Benjamin Harrison, and William Howard Taft. On the Roosevelt side of the family, FDR was related to Theodore Roosevelt and Martin Van Buren, who married Mary Aspinwall Roosevelt. The wife of George Washington, Martha Dandridge, was among FDR's ancestors, and it is claimed by Daniel Delano that Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt were "eighth cousins, once removed."13 This almost makes the United States a nation ruled by a royal family, a mini monarchy.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 05:32 PM
Bill Clinton and George Bush were both related to both King Henry VIII and to President Pierce.

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 05:38 PM
I've heard FDR was related to like 12 other presidents, Churchill, and the Romans...

Obama also traces back to this bunch....Zachary Taylor, Washington, Roosevelts, The Adams & Grant!

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 05:41 PM
Another symbol of the occult is the "shhhh" sign. This next picture is Crowley when allegedly possessed by a demon/entity.

http://kryptekamara.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/thesilentwatcher.jpg

Remember the occult or secret societies are meant for the elite only. They believe they are better than everyone else because they have secret knowledge.

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/IlluminatWatcherDotCom-Rihanna-Shhh-Illuminati-vow-of-silence.jpg


One eye showing, mouth covered, and she has her finger tattooed as many young starlets do today.

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/IlluminatiWatcherDotCom-Vow-of-Silence-Madonna.jpg


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/SZ8r2b8_EbI/AAAAAAAAH1I/zeLOJAut0GY/s400/article-1150083-03950C96000005DC-610_468x349.jpg


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7n4EZnpRM6o/TOlHqBIu1_I/AAAAAAAAAEg/Vx7eh_hbcKE/s1600/Churchill%2Bshhh.jpg


http://darwin.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/shhh_cr.jpg


http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/Angelico-Silence.jpg


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Yt3M33fzOLA/TBcoiPGbCsI/AAAAAAAAPRU/bgLcareyWAM/s400/jamesfranco11.jpg


http://conservativepapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/obama-tells-secret.jpg

PolWatch
01-24-2015, 05:51 PM
This is the basic trace on Obama & his kin to the Bush, Cheney, & J P Morgan family (among others). His relationship to Roosevelt, etc is through Zachary Taylor via a very involved history.

http://famouskin.com/famous_kin_menu.php?name=10012+barack+obama

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 05:53 PM
It's a complicated mess, but there is a reason why they're all chummy chummy and a nobody from Chicago can be president within a few short years.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 10:12 PM
PolWatch do you want L. Ron Hubbard here or in a separate thread?

Alyosha
01-25-2015, 12:05 AM
I forgot Yu-Gi-oh!
The Xl will like this

http://vigilantcitizen.productionshardl.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/167_alister_scowl.jpg


Look at the symbol on Alister's forehead.

http://vigilantcitizen.productionshardl.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/220px-Solid_unicursal_hexagram.svg_.png

PolWatch
01-25-2015, 12:51 AM
@PolWatch (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1099) do you want L. Ron Hubbard here or in a separate thread?
Alyosha - doesn't matter...I'm just curious about him. From sci-fi writer to religion creator, he's an interesting person

iustitia
01-25-2015, 01:21 AM
I forgot Yu-Gi-oh!
@The Xl (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=865) will like this

http://vigilantcitizen.productionshardl.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/167_alister_scowl.jpg


Look at the symbol on Alister's forehead.

http://vigilantcitizen.productionshardl.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/220px-Solid_unicursal_hexagram.svg_.png
It's time to D-D-D-DUEL!

Codename Section
01-25-2015, 10:48 AM
There was that chick in the OTO that died last year. I forget her name.

CaveDog
01-27-2015, 03:15 PM
Remember the occult or secret societies are meant for the elite only. They believe they are better than everyone else because they have secret knowledge.

Not to mention being more highly evolved, which is where the significance of bloodlines comes in.

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 03:20 PM
Not to mention being more highly evolved, which is where the significance of bloodlines comes in.

Yes, they do pay attention to that and recruit people for certain agencies based on it. They are a huge bunch of malevolent weirdos.

TrixWitch
01-31-2015, 03:02 AM
Yes, they do pay attention to that and recruit people for certain agencies based on it. They are a huge bunch of malevolent weirdos.

True.