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Brett Nortje
01-24-2015, 04:05 PM
All you need to understand to be a real magician is a few things. first, you need to battle your subconscious until either your subconscious wins, or your conscious wins, either way they will still both work and then they will come together. then, you need to know that all symbolism is done through your left hand, as your left hand side is subconscious like faeries. to understand how you mind works, or choose what you want done, you need to use your right hand. this is what you choose to do, like when you sing; you will be singing on the right and feeling high on the left, yes?

Now, you need to understand electrons. read up on them if you do not understand me, okay? if you were to observe that all bonding is done by electrons sucking things together, as they have a negative spin, meaning they take away power, or, that they draw power from other things to stay 'alive,' they need to be satisfied. the fact remains that they are the conductors of electricity, or, a major thing in things from lightning, gamma rays or even sunlight, to radios and computers. they make 'activity.'

The quarks are there too, most of the time they are the things 'sucked on.' this means they will be the fuel for the fire, okay? they never burn out, they just satisfy the spinning of the electrons - think of a magnet pulling little metal shards up, the electrons are the magnet, they 'pull' the potential energy up.

Now, everything is affected by electromagnetism. this is the force i have just described. if you were to observe the Greek gods, being the planets of our solar system, they all affect life here on earth by electromagnetism, and that is why we have horoscopes. this is where we are influenced with our own potential energy related to where the planets are, and the moons too.

Numerology is where numbers and values affect the faeries they give value to. if a house has a slightly stooped roof, that will affect things around it, and have a 'spin' to add to the spins or energies of other things, like a spider web. if you were to look through any holy text, those people understand these things and use them to empower other things, like the message of the text.

Just look at what i have written now? at a glance it looks beautiful, yes? the actual layout of the page is beautiful because of numerology. in literature, it is easy to make the reader excited because of this. the best ratios are combinations of two or three lines with a four every now and again. i think i will pause here, any questions?

Bob
01-24-2015, 04:29 PM
All you need to understand to be a real magician is a few things. first, you need to battle your subconscious until either your subconscious wins, or your conscious wins, either way they will still both work and then they will come together. then, you need to know that all symbolism is done through your left hand, as your left hand side is subconscious like faeries. to understand how you mind works, or choose what you want done, you need to use your right hand. this is what you choose to do, like when you sing; you will be singing on the right and feeling high on the left, yes?

Now, you need to understand electrons. read up on them if you do not understand me, okay? if you were to observe that all bonding is done by electrons sucking things together, as they have a negative spin, meaning they take away power, or, that they draw power from other things to stay 'alive,' they need to be satisfied. the fact remains that they are the conductors of electricity, or, a major thing in things from lightning, gamma rays or even sunlight, to radios and computers. they make 'activity.'

The quarks are there too, most of the time they are the things 'sucked on.' this means they will be the fuel for the fire, okay? they never burn out, they just satisfy the spinning of the electrons - think of a magnet pulling little metal shards up, the electrons are the magnet, they 'pull' the potential energy up.

Now, everything is affected by electromagnetism. this is the force i have just described. if you were to observe the Greek gods, being the planets of our solar system, they all affect life here on earth by electromagnetism, and that is why we have horoscopes. this is where we are influenced with our own potential energy related to where the planets are, and the moons too.

Numerology is where numbers and values affect the faeries they give value to. if a house has a slightly stooped roof, that will affect things around it, and have a 'spin' to add to the spins or energies of other things, like a spider web. if you were to look through any holy text, those people understand these things and use them to empower other things, like the message of the text.

Just look at what i have written now? at a glance it looks beautiful, yes? the actual layout of the page is beautiful because of numerology. in literature, it is easy to make the reader excited because of this. the best ratios are combinations of two or three lines with a four every now and again. i think i will pause here, any questions?

Yeah, you didn't forget to light the pilot light, did you?

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 06:23 PM
What a bunch of bull poop.

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 06:34 PM
What a bunch of bull poop.


Ask Aly first.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 06:36 PM
Ask Aly first.

Not necessary. I know bull when I see it. Bunch of mumbo jumbo and hooey.

Brett Nortje
01-24-2015, 06:37 PM
What a bunch of bull poop.

This is the foundation of my magical energies. i have been into magic for about seven years now, and, can cast illusions with minor success.

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 06:40 PM
Not necessary. I know bull when I see it. Bunch of mumbo jumbo and hooey.

lol. We can talk about it over coffee soon. And she and I will force you into more ghost hunts. :smiley:

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 06:41 PM
This is the foundation of my magical energies. i have been into magic for about seven years now, and, can cast illusions with minor success.

There is no such thing as magic. It's just petty manipulation of the placebo effect.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 06:44 PM
lol. We can talk about it over coffee soon. And she and I will force you into more ghost hunts. :smiley:

Sounds good to me. Hooey can be fun.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 06:47 PM
There is no such thing as magic. It's just petty manipulation of the placebo effect.

So the lepers Jesus cured spontaneously had their skin meld back together because of placebo? Padre Pia's stigmata that bled a blood type different than that of his own body was also placebo?

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 06:48 PM
Sounds good to me. Hooey can be fun.

You are my favorite stick in the mud. I don't comprehend how she tolerates it.

We will find something to convince you of the paranormal.

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 06:49 PM
So the lepers Jesus cured spontaneously had their skin meld back together because of placebo? Padre Pia's stigmata that bled a blood type different than that of his own body was also placebo?

Let's take him to Gettysburg. We will get EMPs there plenty.

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 06:50 PM
There is no such thing as magic. It's just petty manipulation of the placebo effect.
There is magic.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 06:51 PM
Aquia Harbor Church

Brett Nortje
01-24-2015, 06:53 PM
There is no such thing as magic. It's just petty manipulation of the placebo effect.

I could show you the hard science behind a love spell, if you like?

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:09 PM
So the lepers Jesus cured spontaneously had their skin meld back together because of placebo? Padre Pia's stigmata that bled a blood type different than that of his own body was also placebo?

Assuming those things actually happened, they are certainly explainable by placebo or just plain old fraud. And his name was padre Pio.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:10 PM
There is magic.

Define magic.

Brett Nortje
01-24-2015, 07:10 PM
Now, please trust me, do this with your wife or girlfriend, okay? you do not want to fall in love with some stranger. believe me, your placebo as you put it might latch onto them, as you might have a weak will.

This typical love spell comes from a source i cannot remember, and, it is written down and is popular, so i think it might work. if you want to make someone fall in love with you, all you need is a candle, matches, something nice smelling and your voice. basic yes? all you need to do in the spell is light the candle with one or two strikes of the match, if it breaks it is bad luck, and if it scratches twice it is bad - it is incredibly more powerful to scratch on purpose then light it, but i don't take chances myself. use two matches to symbolize your union with the person, even your child would do nicely. then, you sprinkle the herbs onto the flame, and it produces a nice smell for the faeries to relate to her - you heard of one world conscious and social mathematics? then you sing to him or her.

Now, the real thing is the sining. have you heard of when people serenade each other, they sing! this is typical in every culture around camp fires too. if you sing to someone, they think of you, and that is why singers are more popular than actors, because the songs have a good effect on your mind. so you don't really need the spell, you just got to sing to the ones you love, and they will slowly begin to think of you when they are 'free.' the effects can be summarized as;


Biological models of love tend to see it as a mammalian drive, similar to hunger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger) or thirst (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirst).[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love#cite_note-Lewis-17) Psychology sees love as more of a social and cultural phenomenon. Certainly love is influenced by hormones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone) (such as oxytocin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin)), neurotrophins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotrophins) (such as NGF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_growth_factor)), and pheromones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheromone), and how people think and behave in love is influenced by their conceptions of love. The conventional view in biology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology) is that there are two major drives in love: sexual attraction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_attraction) and attachment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_theory). Attachment between adults is presumed to work on the same principles that lead an infant to become attached to its mother. The traditional psychological view sees love as being a combination of companionate love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companionate_love) and passionate love. Passionate love is intense longing, and is often accompanied by physiological arousal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiological_arousal) (shortness of breath, rapid heart rate); companionate love is affection and a feeling of intimacy not accompanied by physiological arousal.

So, my theory is backed by science, so far. but, how does music fit in?

https://blog.bufferapp.com/music-and-the-brain

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So, as you can see, the hard science backs my claims that singing to someone will make them slowly love you, depending on how much you sing to them, of course.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 07:13 PM
Assuming those things actually happened, they are certainly explainable by placebo or just plain old fraud. And his name was padre Pio.

Thank you for correcting my typo. So you believe that Jesus was a fraud then?

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:14 PM
I could show you the hard science behind a love spell, if you like?

Manipulation of someone's mind and body through suggestion and the like is not magic, it's the placebo effect and is easily explained by science. No need to conjure up supernatural or paranormal entities when biochemistry already has the answers.

Peter1469
01-24-2015, 07:14 PM
Define magic.

What type? Aly knows about a lot of it. You can ask her.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 07:16 PM
Manipulation of someone's mind and body through suggestion and the like is not magic, it's the placebo effect and is easily explained by science. No need to conjure up supernatural or paranormal entities when biochemistry already has the answers.

Why don't you explain the placebo effect insofar as it is able to cure leprosy, cancer, and other life-threatening diseases spontaneously? If this is such a scientific explanation why don't we understand it to a repeatable effect so that we can live drug free?

Cthulhu
01-24-2015, 07:22 PM
You are my favorite stick in the mud. I don't comprehend how she tolerates it.

We will find something to convince you of the paranormal.
Showing someone the devil's existence can usually convince them there is a God.


Sent from my evil cell phone.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:26 PM
Thank you for correcting my typo. So you believe that Jesus was a fraud then?

It's possible that he was, though I don't think so. It's more likely that his followers were the frauds.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:28 PM
What type? Aly knows about a lot of it. You can ask her.

The general definition of magic. If you want to define subtypes of magic, then go ahead, but you have to define magic generally beforehand.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 07:30 PM
Define love, define God, define any number of terms that are perception oriented and you'll have as many answers as people.

Brett Nortje
01-24-2015, 07:31 PM
I do believe in the placebo effect, but, who was Jesus's first patient? why did they believe him?

Do you know what sonar is? this 'effect' is electromagnetic, and, bats and dolphins have it, so it works above and below water.


Echolocation, also called bio sonar, is the biological sonar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonar) used by several kinds of animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal). Echolocating animals emit calls out to the environment and listen to the echoes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echo_(phenomenon)) of those calls that return from various objects near them. They use these echoes to locate and identify the objects. Echolocation is used for navigation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_navigation) and for foraging (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foraging) (or hunting) in various environments. Some blind humans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_echolocation) have learned to find their way using clicks produced by a device or by mouth.
Echolocating animals include some mammals and a few birds; most notably microchiropteran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchiroptera) bats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat) and odontocetes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odontocetes) (toothed whales and dolphins), but also in simpler form in other groups such as shrews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrew), one genus of megachiropteran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megachiroptera) bats (Rousettus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rousettus)) and two cave dwelling bird (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird) groups, the so-called cave swiftlets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftlet) in the genus Aerodramus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerodramus) (formerly Collocalia) and the unrelatedOilbird (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oilbird) Steatornis caripensis.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_echolocation#cite_note-Rousettus-1)

Which is why the 'witching hour' is after dark. now, people light candles to help them see, yes? if you light a candle in the daylight, you will be creating a little 'star,' okay? this flame has no mass, but it does emit photons. the actual flame is the focal point of the spells, as it emits energy, the same way a bat does, the same way a blind human does, okay?

Now, if we emit these 'waves,' then they can carry a charge, like a lightning bolt. would you like to see a lightning bolt come out of my hands? how do you think stories of Jesus healing people began? how do you think stories of fireballs began?

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:33 PM
Why don't you explain the placebo effect insofar as it is able to cure leprosy, cancer, and other life-threatening diseases spontaneously?

Nice loaded question. Why do I have to accept your premise that the placebo effect (or "magic" as some like to call it) has cured anything "spontaneously"? Because you say so? But let's assume for one second that there have been so-called "spontaneous" cures of these diseases, they are explained by the psychosomatic relation between body and mind. In other words, by manipulating someone's psyche, you can induce biochemical responses in their body, which may manifest themselves as a seemingly "spontaneous" cure.


If this is such a scientific explanation why don't we understand it to a repeatable effect so that we can live drug free?

Because there isn't much money in using the placebo effect, coupled with exercise, good diet, and sunshine, to cure diseases.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:34 PM
Showing someone the devil's existence can usually convince them there is a God.

I would love for someone to show me that. I welcome the opportunity to observe evidence for the existence of any supernatural entity, be it God or the Devil, so-called. Let me know when you want to set up a controlled experiment whereby we are able to ascertain such evidence.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:36 PM
Define love, define God, define any number of terms that are perception oriented and you'll have as many answers as people.

In other words, none of you can provide an operational definition for "magic". It's just an ad hoc term you apply to phenomena you cannot explain using science.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 07:37 PM
Nice loaded question. Why do I have to accept your premise that the placebo effect (or "magic" as some like to call it) has cured anything "spontaneously"? Because you say so? But let's assume for one second that there have been so-called "spontaneous" cures of these diseases, they are explained by the psychosomatic relation between body and mind. In other words, by manipulating someone's psyche, you can induce biochemical responses in their body, which may manifest themselves as a seemingly "spontaneous" cure.


You certainly don't have to accept my word for it at all.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 07:38 PM
In other words, none of you can provide an operational definition for "magic". It's just an ad hoc term you apply to phenomena you cannot explain using science.

Magic/magick is an ancient term used to describe events which have no natural explanation and proceed a ritual or prayer.

Brett Nortje
01-24-2015, 07:44 PM
In other words, none of you can provide an operational definition for "magic". It's just an ad hoc term you apply to phenomena you cannot explain using science.

Actually, magic is an art of communicating and using natural energies, biology if you will, combined with physics, to affect something in some way. everything is alive, because everything is conscious, and, even sand is electromagnetically charged. therefore, it reacts, therefore it is.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:44 PM
I do believe in the placebo effect, but, who was Jesus's first patient? why did they believe him?

Why does anyone believe in a douche bag like Joel Ostein? Or any other religious huckster who promises to cure them and to save their soul? Because humans are gullible and emotional.


Do you know what sonar is? this 'effect' is electromagnetic, and, bats and dolphins have it, so it works above and below water.

That's is totally incorrect. Sonar relies on the propagation of SOUND waves, which are mechanical waves, not electromagnetic waves. Mechanical waves like sound waves require a medium in order to propagate, like air or water, whereas electromagnetic waves can propagate through a vacuum.

Brett Nortje
01-24-2015, 07:45 PM
Why does anyone believe in a douche bag like Joel Ostein? Or any other religious huckster who promises to cure them and to save their soul? Because humans are gullible and emotional.

That's is totally incorrect. Sonar relies on the propagation of SOUND waves, which are mechanical waves, not electromagnetic waves. Mechanical waves like sound waves require a medium in order to propagate, like air or water, whereas electromagnetic waves can propagate through a vacuum.

Electromagnetism affects anything with mass, and, without mass, there is no effect on your ear drum or eyeball.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:50 PM
Magic/magick is an ancient term used to describe events which have no natural explanation and proceed a ritual or prayer.

Everything has a natural explanation, we just haven't elucidated it yet.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:52 PM
Electromagnetism affects anything with mass, and, without mass, there is no effect on your ear drum or eyeball.

Again, electromagnetic waves don't require a physical medium to propagate, mechanical waves do, that is why physicists distinguish between the two.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 07:53 PM
Everything has a natural explanation, we just haven't elucidated it yet.

Define "natural".

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 07:55 PM
Actually, magic is an art of communicating and using natural energies, biology if you will, combined with physics, to affect something in some way. everything is alive, because everything is conscious, and, even sand is electromagnetically charged. therefore, it reacts, therefore it is.

The art of communicating and using natural energies to affect something in some way? Under that overly broad definition, almost everything in the world could be consider magic. For example, picking up a coffee cup requires the use of natural energies contained within the body to affect something (the cup) in some way (lifting it off the table).

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 08:00 PM
Define "natural".

Of nature.

Brett Nortje
01-24-2015, 08:05 PM
Again, electromagnetic waves don't require a physical medium to propagate, mechanical waves do, that is why physicists distinguish between the two.

Oh, are they magical? lol. everything is physical, even a soul is energy held together somehow, i have not tried to explain it yet. do you know anything about physics? because, all under the heading of physics, it could imply that things are 'physical,' yes?

If it is not physical, how does it affect the physical? even if you shout at someone, the sound waves carry mass to affect your nerves in your ears.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 08:05 PM
You certainly don't have to accept my word for it at all.

I'm Ivan and you're Alyosha. This is how things are supposed to be... :grin:

Calypso Jones
01-24-2015, 08:16 PM
I think magic, carnival acts and science have a lot in common. None can be trusted. All run by sheisters and hucksters.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 08:31 PM
I think magic, carnival acts and science have a lot in common. None can be trusted. All run by sheisters and hucksters.

Funny, because the computer you're using right now would not exist if it weren't for the discoveries and inventions of scientists. In fact, why don't you just rid yourself of everything in your house that is the product of scientific inquiry, discovery, and invention and tell us how well you get by.

CaveDog
01-24-2015, 08:44 PM
I grew up in an area where there was and is a large witchcraft community. It wasn't such a leap to get involved in it as it may be elsewhere. It wasn't generally considered weird or taboo. You walked into magic shops like you'd walk into a convenience store. There were several to choose from. I studied it, I trained in it and I practiced it. I don't expect people to believe in it but no one can convince me that it isn't real. I've seen and experienced too many things that can't be explained away as coincidence.

My trainer used to say that the pineal gland or "third eye" has the capacity to tune into and manipulate wavelengths of light outside the visual range which can pass through matter like a radio wave. The purpose of a "magic spell" is simply to program the brain to achieve an outcome. It uses the pineal gland somehow to do the rest. I don't know that I'd call it hard science. Instruments can pick up electromagnetic activity around the brain and electrical signals in it so something is going on. To what degree that can manipulate physical reality isn't proven but science discovers new things all the time. The witches I knew didn't regard it as something supernatural, just a natural human capacity that people don't normally utilize consciously. I only know that more often than not it seemed to work.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 09:10 PM
I grew up in an area where there was and is a large witchcraft community. It wasn't such a leap to get involved in it as it may be elsewhere. It wasn't generally considered weird or taboo. You walked into magic shops like you'd walk into a convenience store. There were several to choose from. I studied it, I trained in it and I practiced it. I don't expect people to believe in it but no one can convince me that it isn't real. I've seen and experienced too many things that can't be explained away as coincidence.

My trainer used to say that the pineal gland or "third eye" has the capacity to tune into and manipulate wavelengths of light outside the visual range which can pass through matter like a radio wave. The purpose of a "magic spell" is simply to program the brain to achieve an outcome. It uses the pineal gland somehow to do the rest. I don't know that I'd call it hard science. Instruments can pick up electromagnetic activity around the brain and electrical signals in it so something is going on. To what degree that can manipulate physical reality isn't proven but science discovers new things all the time. The witches I knew didn't regard it as something supernatural, just a natural human capacity that people don't normally utilize consciously. I only know that more often than not it seemed to work.

You should read (if you haven't) The Spirit Molecule by Strasserman. Scientific research on shrooms and the pineal gland.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 09:30 PM
Oh, are they magical? lol. everything is physical, even a soul is energy held together somehow, i have not tried to explain it yet. do you know anything about physics? because, all under the heading of physics, it could imply that things are 'physical,' yes?

If it is not physical, how does it affect the physical? even if you shout at someone, the sound waves carry mass to affect your nerves in your ears.

You're interesting, I'll give you that.

Ethereal
01-24-2015, 09:32 PM
I grew up in an area where there was and is a large witchcraft community. It wasn't such a leap to get involved in it as it may be elsewhere. It wasn't generally considered weird or taboo. You walked into magic shops like you'd walk into a convenience store. There were several to choose from. I studied it, I trained in it and I practiced it. I don't expect people to believe in it but no one can convince me that it isn't real. I've seen and experienced too many things that can't be explained away as coincidence.

My trainer used to say that the pineal gland or "third eye" has the capacity to tune into and manipulate wavelengths of light outside the visual range which can pass through matter like a radio wave. The purpose of a "magic spell" is simply to program the brain to achieve an outcome. It uses the pineal gland somehow to do the rest. I don't know that I'd call it hard science. Instruments can pick up electromagnetic activity around the brain and electrical signals in it so something is going on. To what degree that can manipulate physical reality isn't proven but science discovers new things all the time. The witches I knew didn't regard it as something supernatural, just a natural human capacity that people don't normally utilize consciously. I only know that more often than not it seemed to work.

I'm a bit confused by the phrase "light outside the visual range". Are you referring to infrared or ultraviolent radiation?

CaveDog
01-24-2015, 09:36 PM
You should read (if you haven't) The Spirit Molecule by Strasserman. Scientific research on shrooms and the pineal gland.

Thanks I'll put it on my reading list.

CaveDog
01-24-2015, 09:46 PM
I'm a bit confused by the phrase "light outside the visual range". Are you referring to infrared or ultraviolent radiation?

It was a long time ago and she didn't explain what she meant in depth. She could have thought there was some wavelength of light science hadn't defined. My guess is that it was speculation. I work with infrared and ultraviolet in my job and the only evidence I've seen of those wavelengths penetrating material is as heat. I've never tried to measure it with an instrument and I'm not an expert on photonics. All I can say is that my past experiments with the "magical" techniques did appear to have some effect. I can't come up with any hard science to support it.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 09:48 PM
It was a long time ago and she didn't explain what she meant in depth. She could have thought there was some wavelength of light science hadn't defined. My guess is that it was speculation. I work with infrared and ultraviolet in my job and the only evidence I've seen of those wavelengths penetrating material is as heat. I've never tried to measure it with an instrument and I'm not an expert on photonics. All I can say is that my past experiments with the "magical" techniques did appear to have some effect. I can't come up with any hard science to support it.

His girlfriend is super weirdy religious and into this stuff so it leaves a bad taste in his mouth. Nevermind him.

Which town was this? Salem?

Cthulhu
01-24-2015, 10:38 PM
I would love for someone to show me that. I welcome the opportunity to observe evidence for the existence of any supernatural entity, be it God or the Devil, so-called. Let me know when you want to set up a controlled experiment whereby we are able to ascertain such evidence.

Ah...

Another seeker of signs. Nevermind friend.


Sent from my evil cell phone.

Cthulhu
01-24-2015, 10:41 PM
Actually, magic is an art of communicating and using natural energies, biology if you will, combined with physics, to affect something in some way. everything is alive, because everything is conscious, and, even sand is electromagnetically charged. therefore, it reacts, therefore it is.
All matter - boils down to intelligence and element.

How did Christ *poof* water to wine? I reckon he told it to. If something can obey, it clearly has intellect of some sort, however rudimentary.


Sent from my evil cell phone.

Cthulhu
01-24-2015, 10:43 PM
Everything has a natural explanation, we just haven't elucidated it yet.
I agree, but I also don't thing humanity is ready for such knowledge yet either.


Sent from my evil cell phone.

CaveDog
01-24-2015, 11:13 PM
His girlfriend is super weirdy religious and into this stuff so it leaves a bad taste in his mouth. Nevermind him.

Which town was this? Salem?

I can't judge people for what they do or don't believe, just relate my own experience.

Yes. I grew up on the border of Salem. Probably obvious from my description. It's a unique place.

Alyosha
01-24-2015, 11:26 PM
I can't judge people for what they do or don't believe, just relate my own experience.

Yes. I grew up on the border of Salem. Probably obvious from my description. It's a unique place.

I've visited Salem several times. Neat place. All of New England is ...strange.

Peter1469
01-25-2015, 12:31 AM
Magic/magick is an ancient term used to describe events which have no natural explanation and proceed a ritual or prayer.


He was here, was he not, when you did it. For me.

Ethereal
01-25-2015, 12:46 AM
Ghost Hunting is fun, but it ain't hard science. That's my point!

iustitia
01-25-2015, 12:48 AM
Lots of pseudoscience up in here. Props to Ethereal for calling out sound waves=electromagnetic waves.

Guerilla
01-25-2015, 01:08 AM
Oh, are they magical? lol. everything is physical, even a soul is energy held together somehow, i have not tried to explain it yet. do you know anything about physics? because, all under the heading of physics, it could imply that things are 'physical,' yes?

If it is not physical, how does it affect the physical? even if you shout at someone, the sound waves carry mass to affect your nerves in your ears.

What we think of as the physical is atoms, which only make up a fraction of the universe. The rest of the universe is made of 'dark matter' which is stuff that scientists can't detect through direct means, but have detected through indirect means. So they know it's there, but don't know anything about it.

I wondered if the soul could just be another force in the universe that we can't detect, but that is still able to interact with the physical. Like, can we detect the soul through indirect means by observing the fact that we are physical beings that are able to move? There has to be some force that inhabits living things before they can be 'alive' and separate from the dirt. I wondered what this force was and what made it able to interact with our bodies instead of a rock? So the body must be some kind of vessel, that when atoms are constructed properly, the "soul force" that we can't detect is able to come into contact with the physical, and thus we are able to detect it("soul matter") through indirect means, but still know nothing about it except that it's there.

Is magic just us figuring out how to use this force?

Btw, I know nothing of magic.

Alyosha
01-25-2015, 01:14 AM
Ghost Hunting is fun, but it ain't hard science. That's my point!

It is the observation stage of the scientific methodology. It took man thousands of years of observing lightning before they decided it wasn't an angry god. Even Aristotle thought that stars were holes in the celestial ceiling. We've only started observing phenomenon. Next it will be to document patterns and from patterns form hypothesis and then tests.

Ethereal
01-25-2015, 03:54 AM
It was a long time ago and she didn't explain what she meant in depth. She could have thought there was some wavelength of light science hadn't defined. My guess is that it was speculation. I work with infrared and ultraviolet in my job and the only evidence I've seen of those wavelengths penetrating material is as heat. I've never tried to measure it with an instrument and I'm not an expert on photonics. All I can say is that my past experiments with the "magical" techniques did appear to have some effect. I can't come up with any hard science to support it.

I didn't mean to crap on the magic thread. I just don't like it when people try to mix magic with science. They should remain separate because they each serve a distinct purpose. Neither one is better than the other, they are just different, and it's best that way. As other members have alluded to, I've done stuff like a "ghost hunt" (basically walking around old monuments, train-tracks, and buildings trying to record anomalous sounds) and enjoyed myself. Stuff like that can be very fun and interesting, or it can be dark and creepy. The latter kind of "magic" can be okay in small doses I suppose (just like beer or coffee), but there are group of people who have taken it WAY too far, and that especially angers me because of how powerful they are. It's one thing if people go on a ghost hunt at a Confederate graveyard, it's entirely another when they turn "magic" into some kind of religion/ideology that essentially craps on everything that is good and decent in the world, and revels in the fact that they are rubbing in it our faces. I feel one of the biggest reasons I'm pissed at "magic" lately is because of how much influence some of this magic ideology has on political society. I resent having people like Aleister Crowley wielding so much influence over the lives of people who he admittedly despised. I'd love to slap that spoiled brat right in his mouth (I know he's dead, just saying).

CaveDog
01-25-2015, 04:57 AM
I've visited Salem several times. Neat place. All of New England is ...strange.

As I mentioned, Salem is unique. It has a sense of history about it that makes it a perfect Disneyland for witchcraft. When I go there in the summer I love to walk the side streets between the commons and Pickering wharf with all it's old buildings and little shops.

New England can be beautiful and charming. Not so hard to fall in love with. On the other hand, even for a native it can feel as though something is imperceptibly out of place. Like a small town with a secret.

PolWatch
01-25-2015, 05:14 AM
New England can be beautiful and charming. Not so hard to fall in love with. On the other hand, even for a native it can feel as though something is imperceptibly out of place. Like a small town with a secret.

I'm not trying to discount the mystery of Salem but I've found that odd feeling in a lot of really old places. Some say its from history and some say its from spirits. Charleston, New Orleans, Mobile...cities 300+ years old produce that feeling to me. I wonder what the old cities of Europe would 'feel' like.

Peter1469
01-25-2015, 07:14 AM
Science was born out of the occult. An interesting book (http://www.amazon.com/The-Forbidden-Universe-Origins-Science/dp/1616080280).


Secret societies, famous scientists, ancient Egyptian mysticism, and a fascinating addition to the god-versus-science debate: the Catholic Church. By the bestselling authors of The Templar Revelation and Mary Magdalene, The Forbidden Universe reveals how the foundations of modern science were based around a desire to destroy the church. The great pioneering scientists of the Renaissance and the early Enlightenment (including Copernicus, Galileo, and Sir Isaac Newton) were fervent devotees of the philosophical/mystical system of Hermeticism. Many of the most important scientists of this age, including Galileo, belonged to a secret society called the Giordanisti, which had the agenda to overthrow the Church and establish a new age of Hermetic supremacy.





I didn't mean to crap on the magic thread. I just don't like it when people try to mix magic with science. They should remain separate because they each serve a distinct purpose. Neither one is better than the other, they are just different, and it's best that way. As other members have alluded to, I've done stuff like a "ghost hunt" (basically walking around old monuments, train-tracks, and buildings trying to record anomalous sounds) and enjoyed myself. Stuff like that can be very fun and interesting, or it can be dark and creepy. The latter kind of "magic" can be okay in small doses I suppose (just like beer or coffee), but there are group of people who have taken it WAY too far, and that especially angers me because of how powerful they are. It's one thing if people go on a ghost hunt at a Confederate graveyard, it's entirely another when they turn "magic" into some kind of religion/ideology that essentially craps on everything that is good and decent in the world, and revels in the fact that they are rubbing in it our faces. I feel one of the biggest reasons I'm pissed at "magic" lately is because of how much influence some of this magic ideology has on political society. I resent having people like Aleister Crowley wielding so much influence over the lives of people who he admittedly despised. I'd love to slap that spoiled brat right in his mouth (I know he's dead, just saying).

Peter1469
01-25-2015, 07:16 AM
I'm not trying to discount the mystery of Salem but I've found that odd feeling in a lot of really old places. Some say its from history and some say its from spirits. Charleston, New Orleans, Mobile...cities 300+ years old produce that feeling to me. I wonder what the old cities of Europe would 'feel' like.

That is why I prefer to vacation in Europe as opposed to the US. Many "new city" parts of European cities are older than most American cities.

Animal Mother
01-25-2015, 09:34 AM
One time I had to take a shit really bad and we were like on one of those white military buses that drives you around base so I couldn't exactly tell it to pull over or drop a load on the bus. So my friend told me mind over matter and to imagine that I didn't have to shit and visualize it until I no longer had to shit.

It worked.

That's magic right there.

CaveDog
01-25-2015, 10:38 AM
I didn't mean to crap on the magic thread. I just don't like it when people try to mix magic with science. They should remain separate because they each serve a distinct purpose. Neither one is better than the other, they are just different, and it's best that way. As other members have alluded to, I've done stuff like a "ghost hunt" (basically walking around old monuments, train-tracks, and buildings trying to record anomalous sounds) and enjoyed myself. Stuff like that can be very fun and interesting, or it can be dark and creepy. The latter kind of "magic" can be okay in small doses I suppose (just like beer or coffee), but there are group of people who have taken it WAY too far, and that especially angers me because of how powerful they are. It's one thing if people go on a ghost hunt at a Confederate graveyard, it's entirely another when they turn "magic" into some kind of religion/ideology that essentially craps on everything that is good and decent in the world, and revels in the fact that they are rubbing in it our faces. I feel one of the biggest reasons I'm pissed at "magic" lately is because of how much influence some of this magic ideology has on political society. I resent having people like Aleister Crowley wielding so much influence over the lives of people who he admittedly despised. I'd love to slap that spoiled brat right in his mouth (I know he's dead, just saying).

No offense taken. There are and have been people like Crowley who's charlatan instinct overshadows anything genuine about them. I've never been impressed by the man. He's always struck me as having been a snake oil salesman and a creepy one at that.

There was nothing dark about what I practiced so I didn't have that experience. It was white witchcraft and there were ethical standards that you adhered to. Devils, demons, malevolent spirits and such had no place in that world view. No one I knew in my tradition would have acknowledged that such things even exist. If there was a religious aspect it had to do with marking the wheel of the year by observing the Sabbaths to stay aligned with the natural order of things. There are always egos and petty politics in any group thing so that happened but I ignored it.

As far as science goes, I wouldn't be too hard on the OP. People in these circles tend to have a more loose definition of science. It's not worth getting the blood pressure up over. There's a pseudo-science in the methodology but it doesn't really rise much above alchemy. Magic is too intuitive to really be a science beyond that.

Polecat
01-25-2015, 10:59 AM
Magic was the high-tech cutting edge of knowledge from the dawn of mankind to the Age of Enlightenment. At this time it was relabeled as science and mass marketed. Our technical progress reflects this. The benefits have all come at great cost. One that we are not going to be able to cover indefinitely.

silvereyes
01-25-2015, 11:12 AM
Is it safe to say that eth is the ultimate skeptic? Aly is whoopie and eth is demi?

Brett Nortje
01-26-2015, 11:28 AM
I was high one day, high on life that is, and i was lying on my back thinking of magic, when the strangest thing happened. it looked, in a another room in my apartment, that there was some light on the wall reflected off the pool, and then it looked like an evil finger tapping into the water.

Then, i had some flashes, and i saw a knife on the left, and a web on the right. i was amazed, so decided that it meant that the knife will fly, which is a 'old legend,' and that i could make illusions. i am having trouble making the knife fly, but can do minor illusions. if you want to know how to see faeries, please continue reading.

You need to look into a candle and then find where the blue meets the yellow. as any artist knows, blue and yellow makes green, yes? now, everyone has different colors they see, mine are green and red, and lately, a little bit blue. i also have a good relationship with fire, as i do not get burned very easily.

To see these illusions, you need to stare into the flames and wait for a while, then you will see little white 'ghosts' and 'faces.' after that, look onto the walls and you should see some 'colors' of sorts. i am not sure the implications of this, nor the bad things that could happen, but if they don't come, know they don't want to 'play with you.'

To find out quickly if they like you, pinch the flame without putting the candle out. if you get burned then you are unlucky.

Brett Nortje
01-27-2015, 09:25 PM
I have for the past few years now, been trying to make a knife fly. i always though it could protect me, and, that it would be fun to dance with knives, or, use them for foreplay or something.

I have read all about physics and how things work, so, my subconscious will understand what it is trying to do. i also know it is good to play with the knives as then they will get to know you. tonight for example, i was throwing my knife into the air and catching it, but it cut me a little bit so i smeared my blood all over the knife to make it even happier, if that seems to amuse it!

So, i know i need to make the particles under neath it heavier and the particles above it lighter. this can be done by using your voice to affect it, or, your body movements. i think you are supposed to use your inner energy, powered by sugar to feed the cells, to move the electrons and quarks underneath the knife.

Upon consulting my spirit board, i find that this takes a very long time to do, and, that you need to master other spells first, like flying. now, my girlfriend can nearly fly, so i picture her as my knife. of course, i may take even more years to get this right, but it gets heavy in my hand, that's for sure!

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 09:27 PM
Brett Nortje

spirit board? Do you think that's wise to mess with?

Cthulhu
01-27-2015, 09:40 PM
I'm smelling a potential car accident, or a Darwin award here now.

Be careful Brett. I like you, and I'd rather you didn't bring something home you didn't ask for.

Golden rule with magick, especially sex magick - when in doubt, just don't.

Nobody ever got bad karma from a spell/rite they didn't cast.

Just take my word for it.


Sent from my evil cell phone.

Brett Nortje
02-02-2015, 06:26 PM
Well, i have heard that anything you dream up as a concept can be done. this brings me to role playing games. it seems that there is a new trend in role playing where people actually want to do these things they fantasize about, naturally, and they encode them into books, because, repetition works. this is why the most powerful number is two, being two eyes, two ears, male and female, and so forth. if you need evidence that repetition works, you need only look to brain washing or that the faeries that are everything we know and see and hear and smell, always react to repetition. that is why a printed book, repeatedly studied by gamers, will become the norms, if based on 'science' of sorts.

So, after reading this new game all about teleporting - something i really want to do! - i reckon that if you are familiar with a place the more chance you have of teleporting there, as dungeons and dragons rules say. then, you can also carry a load with you. you need to think of that place three dimensionally, and, maybe your present place three dimensionally. this might work the same way as the 'strings' or control spells, where you think of the other person and then imagine yourself in their body and activate all the muscles and stuff, very vaguely.

Now, to get from point [a] to point [b] you need to fold your location with the location you want to go to. then, you could imagine your atoms displacing the atoms of the place you want to go to as well. basically, you want to get the wind to move you, like a kite, and you need to think of a 'circle' around the world with the air blowing you from one degree to the next, i think. i think this might take a lot of manna, or, energy. i also think maybe that making a circle between the point you are at and the location might be the best way to do it, not around the world.

Brett Nortje
02-02-2015, 06:43 PM
Okay, i just teleported a centimeter and feel like i am sliding all over the place! i think this works, but, you need to use your trigger fingers to point to the angle of your direction, and degree of your movement. as always, you will feel tired, so stock up on sugar once a day.

The Xl
02-02-2015, 06:46 PM
Final Fantasy is religion and it proves magic is real

Fact.

Polecat
02-02-2015, 07:19 PM
All you need to understand to be a real magician is a few things. first, you need to battle your subconscious until either your subconscious wins, or your conscious wins, either way they will still both work and then they will come together. then, you need to know that all symbolism is done through your left hand, as your left hand side is subconscious like faeries. to understand how you mind works, or choose what you want done, you need to use your right hand. this is what you choose to do, like when you sing; you will be singing on the right and feeling high on the left, yes?

Now, you need to understand electrons. read up on them if you do not understand me, okay? if you were to observe that all bonding is done by electrons sucking things together, as they have a negative spin, meaning they take away power, or, that they draw power from other things to stay 'alive,' they need to be satisfied. the fact remains that they are the conductors of electricity, or, a major thing in things from lightning, gamma rays or even sunlight, to radios and computers. they make 'activity.'

The quarks are there too, most of the time they are the things 'sucked on.' this means they will be the fuel for the fire, okay? they never burn out, they just satisfy the spinning of the electrons - think of a magnet pulling little metal shards up, the electrons are the magnet, they 'pull' the potential energy up.

Now, everything is affected by electromagnetism. this is the force i have just described. if you were to observe the Greek gods, being the planets of our solar system, they all affect life here on earth by electromagnetism, and that is why we have horoscopes. this is where we are influenced with our own potential energy related to where the planets are, and the moons too.

Numerology is where numbers and values affect the faeries they give value to. if a house has a slightly stooped roof, that will affect things around it, and have a 'spin' to add to the spins or energies of other things, like a spider web. if you were to look through any holy text, those people understand these things and use them to empower other things, like the message of the text.

Just look at what i have written now? at a glance it looks beautiful, yes? the actual layout of the page is beautiful because of numerology. in literature, it is easy to make the reader excited because of this. the best ratios are combinations of two or three lines with a four every now and again. i think i will pause here, any questions?

Your grasp on atomic theory and magnetism needs a little polishing up. Electrons do not suck because they have a negative spin. They carry a static negative charge. They are bound according to their valance shell to the net positive charge of the nucleus. As far as the effect the other planets have on us that would be gravity.

iustitia
02-02-2015, 07:29 PM
People told me I could do anything. So I teleported a centimeter.

Alyosha
02-02-2015, 08:37 PM
You guys...

nic34
02-02-2015, 09:13 PM
There is no such thing as magic. It's just petty manipulation of the placebo effect.

Exactly, just ask any 15th century alchemist how easy is was to make gold from lead.

Brett Nortje
02-02-2015, 09:23 PM
Exactly, just ask any 15th century alchemist how easy is was to make gold from lead.

I understand your 'placebo effect' with regards to Buddhist body manipulation, but, even there, there is a certain angle to hit a brick at to crack it, and there are certain conditions to sticking spikes down your throat. this would be where you trick your placebo?

Chloe
02-02-2015, 09:26 PM
10351

Alyosha
02-02-2015, 10:17 PM
Exactly, just ask any 15th century alchemist how easy is was to make gold from lead.

Without a hadron collider or nuclear reactor they were shit out of luck.

CaveDog
02-03-2015, 04:41 PM
Alchemy was of course a precursor of modern science but whether it ever changed lead to gold is irrelevant. I say that Magick doesn't really rise above it as a "science" because it can't by it's nature meet the modern definition of science any more than alchemy could. Alchemists were, however, trying to consciously find a chemical formula so it resembled modern science more although it sprang from the ideas of Magick.

Magick operates on a subconscious level and thus can't be defined in scientific terms. Science lacks enough understanding of the subconscious to quantify Magick. The subconscious doesn't conform to the scientific method. If it did then it would cease to be Magick and become science (and probably much more reliable). Until such time we have only the traditional tools.

It's the subconscious that connects to the broader reality like an operating system connecting to a network through wi-fi. It operates behind the scenes. I can't define how that works but experience tells me that it does. The conscious mind understands science but isn't really capable of Magick. Its too rational. The trick is to impress the will of the conscious mind onto the subconscious in a language it understands. The subconscious understands emotion and symbolism and that's what ritual has always been about. You can try to work magick using the conscious alone for a lifetime with no result. Once you can learn to tell the subconscious what you want in it's own language then it responds. Once you learn to understand what the subconscious is trying to tell you in its own language then you understand. Then you have to learn to leave it alone to do it's thing and not think about it. That's the secret.

Polecat
02-03-2015, 05:00 PM
Jesus told his disciples that a mountain could be relocated with enough belief. This opens the door for mind over matter matters.









(matter)

Brett Nortje
02-05-2015, 03:45 PM
Jesus told his disciples that a mountain could be relocated with enough belief. This opens the door for mind over matter matters.

(matter)

I believe that this was misunderstood and really means that faith is spirit, and spirit means manna or energy.

The Xl
02-05-2015, 04:58 PM
It's real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLah-pOcc7I

No opinions, just cold hard facts.

Brett Nortje
02-09-2015, 08:52 PM
I have found the best way to learn spells is to get a spirit mentor. on many occasions people that do not make the cut for heaven, but are not really evil, are sent to hell. if you allow one of these spirits to come into your body, they will mentor you in how to cast spells, in exchange for not being in hell. do not mess with the big ones.

Brett Nortje
02-09-2015, 09:43 PM
This sort of thing is where you get faeries to boost your 'physical and mental attributes.' basically, they can make you stronger, more beautiful, or even more intelligent.

To get faeries to consume you, you need to see little lights in your room, usually at night, then get them to go into your legs by blinking. forcing them there will result in them abandoning you, but, if they direct themselves there, then they will 'bless' you.

This is because we see them, and they know we are seeing them. this is when there is a disturbance in the fabric, of, for instance, the wall, where 'reactive' things live. they will be activated by a candle or light source, as heat will ignite them and excite them - i am not saying to burn the wall, i am saying that the fire will excite them and activate them, as if it was a real fire. then, depending on the make up they have - say it is bricks mixed with spices? - then they will alter you in some way, by mixing the texture of the 'wall' with you. this also works with lights from cell phones in the dark. ti helps to do this in a room with posters or white boards with writing on them - the message will become you, you could say.

Crepitus
02-09-2015, 10:25 PM
Seen people who claim to do manic, they can't.

Seen people who claim to have spiritual powers, they don't.

Been where there are supposed to be ghosts, there aren't.

I've been a lot of places and I've seen no evidence of magic, spirits, ghosts, goblins, fairies, or any other supernatural beings or events.

I'm willing to be converted, but I'd take some serious convincing.

Brett Nortje
02-09-2015, 11:24 PM
Seen people who claim to do manic, they can't.

Seen people who claim to have spiritual powers, they don't.

Been where there are supposed to be ghosts, there aren't.

I've been a lot of places and I've seen no evidence of magic, spirits, ghosts, goblins, fairies, or any other supernatural beings or events.

I'm willing to be converted, but I'd take some serious convincing.

Okay, i will 'convert' you with something safe? imagine in your mind a picture of a oudja board - a wooden board with a lot of letters on it, and, essentially, the word goodbye at the bottom. it must have all the letters. then, you need to imagine your finger on a glass widget to 'highlight' the letters as words. then, ask the 'image' questions in your mind, and see the widget move spelling out the words to your answer. please ask for the appropriate spirit to speak to, like a grandfather or something.

Crepitus
02-10-2015, 12:05 AM
Okay, i will 'convert' you with something safe? imagine in your mind a picture of a oudja board - a wooden board with a lot of letters on it, and, essentially, the word goodbye at the bottom. it must have all the letters. then, you need to imagine your finger on a glass widget to 'highlight' the letters as words. then, ask the 'image' questions in your mind, and see the widget move spelling out the words to your answer. please ask for the appropriate spirit to speak to, like a grandfather or something.
No dice sir. Watched some young ladies playing with one years ago, caught one of them cheating. Proven to be fake. Sorry.

Brett Nortje
02-17-2015, 06:09 PM
I have been trying to make things fly for a while now. as far as i know, i am supposed to sing to it, to give it a sensation of sound, and, to lend it energy. this would follow from talking to plants;


Finding: PLAUSIBLEExplanation: An adage out there goes "If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all." But when MythBusters Tory Belleci, Kari Byron and Scottie Chapman experimented with the power of words on plants, the opposite rang true.
Some plant enthusiasts think that showering seedlings with sunlight, water and healthy soil isn't enough. To really make their roots sing, these backyard botanists believe they can sweet talk their gardens into growing better. To see whether kind words could really yield fertile results, the skeptical MythBusters procured 60 pea plants and divided them into three greenhouse groups. Then, they recorded two soundtracks — one of loving praise and one of cruel insults — and played them on repeat in two separate greenhouses. A third greenhouse remained mum as an experimental control.
To give the myth a fighting chance of flourishing, the team charted the plants' growth over 60 days. Afterward, the MythBusters determined the winning greenhouse by comparing plant masses from the three groups. To their surprise, the silent greenhouse performed poorest, producing lower biomass and smaller pea pods than the other two. Although there was no difference in plant quality between the nice greenhouse and the mean greenhouse, the soundtracks seemed to produce a positive effect in both.
Based on the plausible myth, botanists might want to chat with their plants more often, even if what they have to say isn't all-too friendly.

So, what can we find from this? is it not true that noise carries a sort of energy, kinetic if you will. if you were to follow from 'radiation,' it travels to a certain point then sticks to the metals or whatever of something else, and, as there are no freaks of nature, this must be true for plants too.

We know we need to sing to the pen or whatever. the more base it is, say wood or metal, then the easier it will navigate these 'areas.'

Playing with the thing or using it will make it more familiar to us. it is often said that when we curse someone we need to use something of theirs, like a glove or something, yes? now, if it were that the glove was to be collecting their 'energy' or 'scent' or even both, than they would be affiliated with that thing as if it were their pet recognizing them, yes? so, building a familiar with them could be important. so being around it or using it will be like a mechanism where you do your deeds through the instrument, of course, it should not be something too heavy like your car, but maybe a pillow?

The way i see it, the lighter the thing is, like a ring, the better it will fly, yes?

Brett Nortje
02-17-2015, 06:27 PM
Then you should be able to verbally write on walls as if it were an illusion, yes? if you could use just your mind, some finger pointing, and some wording, of which i am not yet sure, then you could revolutionize the 'teaching experience,' yes?

Brett Nortje
02-24-2015, 11:55 AM
I hear i might have to ride a motorcycle soon, so figured it would be great if i could regrow legs and stuff if i got injured. it would be horrible to go to hospital to get redone, so i figured i would stick this here.

Basically, the fuel you need to regrow your limbs is in the sugar you eat. there is also plenty of sugar! so, i figure it could be easy to become, for lack of a better archetype, wolverine!

So, for this you will have to grow muscle and bone. this can be done by flexing up to the point that you lost, as, the muscles will lead to newer muscles 'coming out,' or old muscles fully forming. then there is the factor of bones, so drink a lot of calcium too! the perfect thing therefore, is milkshakes, if you ask me.

Now, have i missed something? how long will it take? i need feedback to perform this thing!

Brett Nortje
02-25-2015, 05:18 PM
If you were to observe that signals are also made of energy, then a cell phone might be able to let you know how the faeries around you feel about what you are doing.

So, if you were to randomly look at your signal bar, the higher it is the better it is for you, but, to be missing it out by one bar would mean that the faeries do not like it, two bars they would not like it more, and so forth. you are only looking for full bars to validate your thoughts.

Brett Nortje
02-25-2015, 05:51 PM
I find this is because the energy of electromagnetism from around our solar system will alter the signal, depending on which planet you are confiding in, or which spirit or element.

Brett Nortje
02-25-2015, 05:55 PM
I have found the secrets to magical animal tattoos, but not symbols. if you were to light a candle while you are getting a tattoo, and close your eyes, you will see colors and shapes as you normally would. these are faeries that are attracted to you, so, you just got to imagine yourself 'absorbing' them.

If it is an armadillo, for example, you will become tougher, so, that people that hit you, or when a car knocks you, it will be as if the person put the brakes on at just the right time to make the damage less. if it is a swan or peacock, you will become more comely to those around you.

This is because your subconscious alters your movements and expressions, so, in the case of beauty, you will take on an expression you admire and now dare to flaunt. in the case of the armadillo, you will think you can dodge the car, or, as the monks do with their lying on nails, well, mind over matter, yes? the thing is, your mind will believe it is subconsciously over the matter, and it will be!

Brett Nortje
02-28-2015, 06:48 PM
If you were to look into the light, you will be blinded, try it, look into the sun! this is because our eyes nerves are too sensitive to take in the full message from the 'planet' known as the sun, as, it's electromagnetism carries radiation, photons and all sorts of other things.

So, if you were to observe the light we see when we see 'illusions,' it is little bricks on walls acting as if they were emitting light, yes? these move in relays, like a chain carries current.

To activate them means taking power from our bodies and minds, and emitting it to these bricks or whatever we want to make an illusion on and then making it radiate - the electrons activate the photons with energy - the electrons make photons. they make them by charging the quarks, and then there is either electricity or heat of some kind, and, then there is activity, as, heat consumes quarks that are positive, then recycles them, as they do not annihilate by the negative spin. this means that the illusion may remain for a while. obviously, it is easier to use a lit candle to make these, as, they will already be 'heated.' it is down to eye's nerves to see these illusions, of course.

Now, if you were to create photons that are temporarily used up, then fizzle out when they reach a certain point, it means the quarks have recovered and 'stabilized.' then they swap around! the [x] goes to the [y] place, and the [y] goes to the [x] place. this means we will never not be able to make illusions if we can, of course, as there is unlimited fuel. the air's atoms can also be ignited, actually, more easily, as they are mainly oxygen and not mortar or whatever, yes?

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 06:33 AM
This is especially useful to build your strength with magic. all that is required is eye contact - it is similar to a love spell, of course. simply mime your actions as best you understand them, and be honest. what sort of person wants to harm others?

This is also like a friendship spell from mortal combat, of course. you do not need candles for this spell.

One that works for me, well, you need to make the person understand that you know they can see you. simply miming with your hands will do the trick, but it only makes them like you for a short while, say, while you are trying to run the price down on something, yes? it could also help you out of a sticky situation where violence could be the only other answer, of course.

My version would be to hold both hands to my chest, point at yourself after holding on hand out, then back to your chest, then point upwards, then hand back to your chest.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 06:41 AM
Please remember that you have been chosen by the faeries to get magic that is compatible with you. some of you, like myself, will get something to the tune of six schools, while other will get only two. basically, you can use a candle to find your 'schools of magic' then consult the free "srd" pages on the net to find the spells you can cast. the more spells you can cast, the weaker they become, and, as always, practice makes perfect. you will feel a high feeling when your spells work, of course.

Before you can really cast spells, you must invite faeries to play with you. this is easily done with a candle. if you believe this is wrong, that is fine, sorry to waste your time.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 06:44 AM
I know a few neat tricks for this school! in the animal kingdom, animals always like to play. the trick here, for a start, is to impress some birds. if you were to find a nice spot in the park or your garden, you must go into a easy to see spot, and dance as best you can, making it funny, sexy, a kata or anything else you like.

If the birds like it, they will come to the spot where you were 'dancing,' so, stand back a bit and watch - do not scare them!

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 06:56 AM
Although i am somewhat against this, i believe that being able to make food appear would be good. this school is about manifesting things to be, like fire bolts, faerie fires and stuff like that.

Let us begin with light? this is very hard to do, as i would like you, in total darkness or inside your house at least, to create light in the palm of your hand.

So far, i have only a clue on how to do this. if you were to hold the palm of your hand up to your stomach, you could focus your energy into this to make light. the thinking behind this must be to excite photons, yes? this can be done by trying to 'compress quarks' in the palm of your hand so as to make it emit photons.

This can be done scientifically by forcing all the orbitals to either the inside, or the outside of your palm. then, the photons will be squashed and escape, along with other particles. you will need to be about sixteen at least to have the willpower to do this, mind you.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 07:08 AM
This is about dealing with the spirits. these spirits are of people or deceased creatures, not faeries - they have more willpower. this could also be used to heal people. so let us begin with a healing spell? the main 'attributes' here would be charisma, willpower and medical knowledge. having a good nervous system would also help, as it relays information from your body to the other's, yes?

Now, to heal a wound, you could use your imagination and focus. you need to know what your own energy, coming from sugar to power brain cells and other things, will need to help do. it is like fuel injection for an engine, of course, if you want to use that 'picture?'

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 07:12 AM
As i have said, there are eight major schools of magic. the ones we have kept through the ages, are divination and abjuration, that you will find aplenty in the traditional magic books.

You will be able to cast at least two of these spells, i guarantee, unless you lack the requirements to do so.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 07:37 AM
Reading magic could be important if we want to understand the spell. also, it will help people prepare normal acts of nature into spells we understand.

As far as i can tell, you need to have a high guessing ability, as it will be down to knowledge, common sense and sixth sense. maybe having a healthy body could also help interpret it?

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 07:50 AM
Reading clouds is quite easy, and, it relates to the majority of the area it is seen from. actually, nearly every angle will result in a different cloud 'image.' these will show you, in pictures, what is on the horizon, or, will show you what has come and what will come, and, maybe what is happening.

Supposedly, the left clouds will be for the subconscious message, and the right hand clouds will show you what the actual message is with guidance. if you feel high looking at them, then you know something good is on the horizon, and the same is true for the opposite.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 08:09 AM
12 On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lordin the presence of Israel:“Sun, stand still over Gibeon,
and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.”
13 So the sun stood still,
and the moon stopped,
till the nation avenged itself on its enemies,

as it is written in the Book of Jashar.
The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. [B]14 There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the Lordlistened to a human being. Surely the Lord was fighting for Israel!
15 Then Joshua returned with all Israel to the camp at Gilgal.


I have also had about an hour dream in five minutes. i remember desperately wanting to watch arsenal play, but was too tired to get up, and had to sleep some more. then, when i awoke, i knew something was wrong, as it had only been five minutes! and, we know from the bible that people with the help of the spirits can do it too, yes?

So, to stop time without just being desperate, we need to focus on something, something we really care about. like your job - you need to get there in time, okay?

Now, to make time 'slow down' you actually need to speed yourself up. this requires a lot of concentration, or desperation. if you are driving to work, you need to speed up all the traveling on the road, of course. this can be done by amplifying the 'reactions' of everything around you. this means you need to focus on bonding of elements, you can read up on that.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 08:11 AM
Also, you might need to think of using up the sugars in other people, and, the younger they are, the easier this is! this could be avoided by being secluded, so there is no interaction with you nor other living things.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 08:17 AM
To 'confuse' someone, start a question with the word "how" or other question for lesser effect, and think about channeling your magic to them. this requires your voice and hopefully, eye contact.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 08:27 AM
To create an 'acid ball,' which is nearly the limits of my offense, you need to make a burning sound with your mouth, and then imitate a cross hair over the thing, like a sitting fly, and imagine it burning a little bit.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 08:45 AM
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Color_Spray

If you read that spell, it is color spray, and something i am working on, having an aptitude for illusions. this is a nonlethal attack.

To do this for real, you will need to observe the 'primary colors,' red, blue and yellow. if you are around a blue sky, yellow sand, and red blood in your veins, you may deplete this blood to get the spray of colors. you may need the toilet after this because you may need to eject some excess blood that you have used up out through your urinary tracts.

The thinking behind this is about faeries and photons. you want to excite photons along the way by slowing them down into the person's eyes. to do this you need to put your hands out and drag them back to yourself quickly, like as if you were trying to drag a carpet quickly.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 08:58 AM
This will be where we make faeries and other spirits real, matter wise. you could inform them, for example, how good food tastes to become real, yes?

So, we need to create a four dimensional thing to 'conjure' them. i suggest you get familiar with summoning birds first! i suppose the schools needed here are enchantment to charm the spirits, and transmutation, necromancy and conjuration.

We will need to have light shining into the area from three sources, so as to excite the three dimensions of the 'creature.' then, we will need to have something that is easy to 'meld' out of flesh, like grass, as, it is alive and plentiful and not hard. you have doubtlessly seen spirits in the shades of trees, yes? this is more or less the same thing, except we want to give it three dimensions instead of two!

So, maybe we should experiment with trees first? we could manifest the faces to become three dimensional, and the trees will hopefully reward us, as i believe they are trapped like that, yes?

To conjure spirits will require being able to speak to them first. they can hear us, but we cannot hear them, although we can 'feel' them.

Use common sense to get a faerie out of grass! i am off the the garden!

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 09:05 AM
Remember when using spells, it is a good idea to make your hands like a diamond head that is upside down, then focus them so you are comfortable with them as a cross hair.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 11:21 AM
This is something from dungeons and dragons that i find very useful. if you were to create a doorway from one place to another, you could step through like a 'two dimensional character,' okay?

So, to get the doorway opened, you will need to picture the other place in two dimensions, as, the doorway has no 'depth.' it is merely like folding space, like in event horizon, yes? removing the depth from the doorway will make it 'fold,' as depth is distance, yes?

This spell reminds me of the ace of hearts - travel. if you were to shuffle and draw cards until you find it, this will indicate how long it will take for you to learn the spell, or, you could roll low on a percentile or light two candles off one match i suppose, yes?

To remove depth, you need to think of either the fourth dimension going through the area, like a box within a box, with the inner box being the one you are in, or, you could heat a 'real doorway' to fuse it's atoms with the other side.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 11:26 AM
Or, you could imagine the other side coming to you, then back out again. this would be like pinching a worm hole.

Imagine you are 'here,' and you want to get 'there.' imagine a worm hole between the two sides, places you need not see, and that you may go through. then, imagine a tunnel between these two points, then walk through, and as soon as you have moved two steps, imagine a 'pinch' behind you.

This works the same was as a stretched elastic band.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 11:30 AM
If you were to think of the other place, even by name, or, better yet, g.p.s. coordinates, then you would find t easier, or, maybe we are taking the wrong approach?

Maybe we should try to use doorways, yes, and picture the place we want to be at on the other end. surely we can see where we are going? this might take a long time though.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 11:38 AM
Maybe we need to use more energy? what compels things to move? i would suggest it would be 'friction,' so, we need to 'rub the doorway' with our hands, to make it bond to another place. this is something like teleport, so maybe we should start there?

To teleport, you need only know the verbal components. this means, that, we need to have the right name of the place in question spoken from our mouths. this we need to do as we walk through the doorway. a normal doorway will do, of course.

So, imagine the other place, and speak the name of the place as you walk through the doorway. place your hands in the typical cross hair method to create 'friction' on the door so the atoms may bond, and pinch behind you after you begin your walk through. this requires timing, of course.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 12:50 PM
This is said to be auditory so it seems it is all vocal. it really hurts the brains or body of the target, for those that you do not like, but i doubt it will open wounds or anything really nasty.

Singing to them, about how they will get headaches, will result in them being given headaches. you must spend time developing this though, as it is a mastery of your own bodies pot/ken energies sent to the other. it helps to have telepathy first, of course.

If you manage to get faeries into your throat, somehow, you may do this. if not, you will merely be singing, of course.

Captain Obvious
03-09-2015, 12:54 PM
I can pull off a Polish pelvic thrust, that's about it...

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 01:01 PM
I can pull off a Polish pelvic thrust, that's about it...

Got to start somewhere!

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 01:08 PM
For this you need nothing of this earth, all you need to do is breathe in and out. this is how the people of the east do it, and, breathing really works! this is where you breathe in cold and breathe out warm, so, picturing the warm going beneath you, say, out your feet, would allow you to levitate.

If you were to smell the sky, you must have your head facing upwards, so that you may 'climb!' this is required to have a flying object that i spoke of, as, they move, but do not fly yet.

So, if you want to fly, try breathing in hot air even though it is cold, so you could emulate a hot air balloon. imagine the warm air going into your cells and bones too.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 01:13 PM
It also helps to think about your spells when you are busy doing things. this brings the magic into your life, and it becomes a part of you! all magic is faeries, remember?

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 01:21 PM
I know a lot of people get 'attacked by their imagination,' when they try to communicate with other people, and it would be nice to form a bond with those that you 'want to hear.'

The best way to do this would be to think or smell or see the person you want to speak to. a picture will do, of course. look into the picture, even hold it, to talk to the person privately, i think.

If you were to want to kick certain people out of your circle, you need only think of them and picture them in your mind's eye and then imagine their mouths wired shut, i think?

Common Sense
03-09-2015, 01:22 PM
Wtf?

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 01:36 PM
To do this, you need to use body language of imitating holding up a shield, as if it were there for real. then, you are supposed to hold a shell of something, something that can resist a little damage, like an egg maybe.

You need to sing a song too! how about protect me from bullets, protect me from rockets, i really hope the ref's in my pocket.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 01:47 PM
Hideous laughter will send the person into fits of laughter. you need to wag your finger at them and make eye contact, as if scolding them for being, in their eyes, impressive or grand. you also need to speak to them in a language they understand. if you were to have some wheat on you, it would also help.

Brett Nortje
03-09-2015, 01:51 PM
Dispelling magic is where you cancel the magic. if you can read magic, you will know what it is they are trying to, or, doing. this means you must wipe your hands in the direction of the spell caster, and, then you will be able to stop the spell. this will also drain you of sugar, so, eating something that gives you mental and physical energy could help.

Common Sense
03-09-2015, 01:52 PM
Now can you cure your own schizophrenia?

Brett Nortje
03-15-2015, 08:28 PM
The fourth dimension has always been a gateway to hell in my views, so, why not the second dimension or the fifth? i guess it works on planets, the first dimension being a gateway to somewhere nice, as well as the second, and the third and fourth being more for demon folk.

I have heard and experienced a demonic frenzy before when i looked into the fourth dimension. it was a glyph of the symbol of the perceived face of baal as a symbol, being the fourth planet, and therefore, theoretically, the fourth dimension. this was on each side of a glass cup, that had the parameters met regarding dimensions and stuff that made the space between the 'symbols' line up, so, the eyes were exactly opposing each other. that is the fourth dimension, a space between the third dimension. or, it is the second dimension becoming the third dimension, of course.

If there is space between space, this can be symbolized by clever architecture. we could build building of pure ecstasy, well, the masons could make churches really make you feel heaven, yes? maybe we could copy, and i have heard this is possible, a eye for the cross, meeting the eye of another cross, or, put them in a triangle so that there are three entrances to the church, symbolizing the trinity? these could be angled so that the 'holes' int the cross, or, points of the cross - the ank then maybe? - could meet up through the photons carrying electric charge through the building, yes?

Of course, why stop there? was it actually a two dimensional meeting the three dimensional meeting the fourth dimensional? possibly. could this be replicated with other symbols? i say, go for it!

Brett Nortje
03-28-2015, 03:27 PM
I was 'observing the cosmos' and they told me how to throw a 'magic missile.' this is little more than a distraction and maybe some bleeding, but it is quick to learn and fast to cast, i heard.

So, as far as i figure from movies and playing games, you are supposed to point your finger at the target, and then say something in a germanic language. i say germanic because it is where the fantasy of this comes from, so, it might be greek or italian or even english and french and german. i am not sure of the word, but would suppose it is a phrase, yes?

The phrase must be about projecting force at someone or something, like a bird, of course, or even saying "dynami tou ergou." this should be the vocal components.

Then, you need to get your other hand up and make like a 'bow' for the 'arrow.' then, you would be imagining a bolt flying though the air, yes? this could help a lot in the beginning.

The science you need to understand for this is sound. you are speaking and know you are focusing your mind into a bolt like an arrow, so maybe saying like that could also help? then, you would also need to make your whole hand like an arrow head, with all four fingers making an arrow head design, yes?

Now, you draw back, you launch your hand forwards, and you say the command while imagining the bolt flying at the target, yes?

Brett Nortje
03-28-2015, 03:37 PM
The way i see it, it is a figment of your mind, so, will make your mind focus into the 'bolt.' this is using the left hand side of your brain, of course, as it is symbolism. to get it into a science, we need to look deeper, yes?

If we want to make it better, we need to understand what is happening. when you shout, you use up energy in the form of eventually fat, so, it will be sugar and stuff, yes? you get tired when you shout, so, this will be the use of energy, and might make you very tired.

If you can imagine something into another person's mind with telepathy, rumor has it at least, then you can imagine this figment projecting 'anywhere,' well, for a little range at least!

So, we are using energy to focus vocal sounds at the target. even when you talk to yourself you can feel the chords in your throat moving, yes? this is because the energy changes forms, of course, from circulating energy of the body into 'sound waves.'

Brett Nortje
03-28-2015, 03:43 PM
The actual words are communications with faeries, which as you know i believe are everything in the world. then, there is the understanding of the faeries, so, maybe finding the right sing language would help? this must be easy to understand by even a child or new born.

So, my suggestion is to smash your hand in your other palm and then do the signs i suggested you do, yes?

Brett Nortje
03-28-2015, 03:51 PM
Maybe it would be better to actually see it? if it were a optical illusion, or not, does not matter! if you were to focus on the photons with your mind, you need to close your eyes slightly so that everything is seen as if you are straining your eyes to the light, like when you make a candle's light shine off at angles, like beams almost?

Then, back to the missile itself. if you were to make the 'swishing sounds' or an arrow in flight instead of the greek for projecting force, the faeries will understand that at least. maybe making the sounds of the arrow sitting in the bow's 'beam' would work? this would be like simulating it, completely from noise, body language and mental things.

But, is that enough? maybe we need to focus on the physical more? how about we all try to focus more? this would be like putting extra energy into it, the movements.

Brett Nortje
03-28-2015, 03:56 PM
As always practice makes perfect, but how do we know we are not wasting our time? if only there was a way to know.

If we were to keep one eye open, and the other makes the light into beams of light, then maybe it would work, or, maybe one eye closed with the image and the other open or half open?

Maybe if we were to use a pool cue as a 'component,' it would help? but, that is still symbolism.

What i am suggesting now is picturing your body becoming the sound wave. if you were to observe your body for a while under x rays, you will see how it works when you make noises. if you were to imagine these things happening to your body, while you do all the rest, then maybe it will work?

Brett Nortje
03-28-2015, 03:58 PM
Nearly there!

Okay, now if you were to observe the waves of sound, then you will see that it will not focus on the target, but, if you do, you will see it hit the target. if you were to shape your mouth like a little round hole, maybe that will work?

Brett Nortje
03-28-2015, 04:00 PM
Okay, that still doesn't work!

But, if we were to try to make our finger a pointed 'thing,' and hold our other fingers into a 'hole,' then we could point through the hole with our pointing finger and see the bolt go through, like a game of golf, yes?

Brett Nortje
03-29-2015, 11:42 AM
This message spell is quite simple. in telepathy you send out voice impressions at a ultra low frequency physically, as, the waves hardly affect anything, but, the 'signal' is still caught. this is like gamma radiation 'penetrating' materials and going through. actually, i doubt it is actual radiation, but, rather a vector of noise, yes? the thing is, everyone can hear it that i have heard of, so, it would stand to reason to say it still goes through things, so, has no mass? that is impossible! everything that affects other things, like the nerves in your ears, has mass. so, it must have mass, yet it goes through things with mass, and, therefore must be like radiation of some sort.


Sound insulation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_insulation): prevent the transmission of noise by the introduction of a mass barrier. Common materials have high-density properties such as brick, thick glass, concrete, metal etc. Sound absorption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_absorption): a porous material which acts as a ‘noise sponge’ by converting the sound energy into heat within the material. Common sound absorption materials include decoupled lead-based tiles, open cell foams and fiberglass. Vibration damping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibration_damping): applicable for large vibrating surfaces. The damping mechanism works by extracting the vibration energy from the thin sheet and dissipating it as heat. A common material is sound deadened steel. Vibration isolation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibration_isolation): prevents transmission of vibration energy from a source to a receiver by introducing a flexible element or a physical break. Common vibration isolators are springs, rubber mounts, cork etc.

Now, the ways to control noise must be reversed to get clear messages across. this can be done by shouting in telepathy, or, 'focusing' your message totally. there is actually a lot of noise out there for me, and i have trouble finding out where it comes from. so, this will be more like a 'filter,' yes?

Well, if you were to imagine a filter of some "thin sheet and dissipating it as heat." that could be one method. if you were to think of this, then you could master it in your mind, and filter out noise from telepathy rooms, well, that is what i have heard, of course.

To actually send a 'message,' you will need to think of the person, and then imagine a string between you and them. this is like a typical old telephone with two cups and one string between them. the string must be imagined by the two people involved, and then they could converse for a while.

Brett Nortje
03-29-2015, 11:56 AM
Of course, proving there is telepathy is quite hard, seeing as how people can just say they do not believe, yes? i mean, if someone threatens you over your 'telepathy channels,' how do you take them to court? you will need people with you to agree with you, but, what about if you are unpopular and demand rights?

For this, there needs to be a machine that proves there is telepathy. this means we need to take a room full of people that do not agree with this, and catch them using it. these will be minor 'phonic vibrations' from their throats to make it as if it were a noise, while obviously there is a distortion of some kind, yes?

So, we need to use a voice recorder, a normal dictaphone, and then record the breathing of the deniers. this will be where they all speak to each other about how stupid this is, and then get recorded 'muttering' to themselves. or, you could say what it is you want to say to be recorded, and then get a scientist to uncover the recordings on the microphone, yes?

If we were to record a bunch of breathing, we can go to the root of it all by getting it into another room. this will be where the recorder will reord the breathing in the other room, or, the vibrations of the throat, yes?

Common Sense
03-29-2015, 12:04 PM
Lsd?

Brett Nortje
03-29-2015, 10:32 PM
This is the most sought after thing to be proven. if you were to observe that the glass is made of 'earth,' and the air around it is the opposing element, then there is no doubt that they will affect each other as water and fire do, yes?

So, for the board to move around, there needs to be a consciousness behind it. where does this consciousness come from to be exact?

Well, if it were a spirit or intelligence, please remember that no energy is ever destroyed, it merely changes forms, so, where does the energy of our nervous system go? it exits the body as the cells die. the cells die because they no longer get oxygen, and, as we know, oxygen is a gas. so what exits the body? the stuff that exits the body is air from our lungs, and then there is no more oxygen for the energy to draw on, so it leaves with the oxygen from our cells. this means, of course, that it becomes gaseous, and as we know from fires in space, the fire will follow the fuel, so our spirits follow the air into the outside world.

This is how we revive someone that is dying with those shocking things in hospitals. they will have their hearts stop, this will stop the air flow. the person blacks out and does not sense anything with their nerves. this is where we need to get the heart pumping oxygen back into the blood or the person will see their nervous system's energy leave them, of course.

Now, this energy out there, is 'gaseous.' it is like that gaseous fire in space, except we cannot see it. it can however affect our world. if we were to use this glass, it will be movable by something if we call it, it hears with sonic vibrations reaching it's 'energy core,' and then it reacts, so picture an oscillator, yes? it merely reacts like as if it has no "free will," because it will just focus our own energy and mass by being collected within the glass, and trying to 'escape it.'

Brett Nortje
03-31-2015, 05:58 PM
For our telekinesis to work properly we need to use energy to life the thing up and move it around. for this to work well, we need to use our finger to point at it and then use our own energy to make it go upwards first of all. for this to happen, we need to observe what it means to fly as a 'gas.'

To fly as a gas, you need to be lighter than the stuff around you. for this to happen, it needs to become hot, or, the air around it needs to be hot. this means, of course, there might be need for slight radiation and stuff, yes? this can come by splitting atoms and stuff, or, by using light instead of a laser to split it, light from the sun, light from photons or even light from a torch or bulb.

So, if we want to make the object fly, we need to point at it and somehow make it hotter around the edges. to make it move around, we need to keep it hotter at the edge it moves towards - the direction. this will be like dropping a leaf onto a pond, and watching it move around - the current will make it move around, but it will also have a shape to keep it moving with the wind above the water, meaning, there are two factors affecting the movement of the leaf on the surface.

But, why do leaves go under sometimes? i would say this is because the leaf will be heavier than it should. how about placing a small stone on the leaf? this will result in it either 'getting a ride' or sinking, yes?

So, the stone is our object and the leaf is the hot area around the object, yes? the hot area will result in the air being cut by the heavier thing, and then it 'falls' into that space. using your finger to direct the object will result in you focusing a beam of heat from your cells onto the object to heat it up, as, all our stored energy is used to heat our bodies too, yes?

Brett Nortje
03-31-2015, 06:11 PM
Of course, we have to actually get the air to heat up around the object. for this to happen, we need to focus on the object and make it so that it, well, how do we normally heat things up? i suppose it could be the stress of the object, the kinetic energy 'flowing' towards it. are you familiar with emotional energy? are you familiar with the heat that can be sent out mentally? have you ever been in a room where there is no heat except the people in it, but it seems 'tense?'

How does tension come about? tension comes about by way of the people in the room affecting the energies with their breathing i suppose, so, we need to breathe out when we try to get the object to fly. in this case, we need to breathe out and focus on the object, and where we want it to be, and then also use our hands to direct it. maybe blowing onto our hands and the thing will work?


The writer can get the reader sitting on the edge of the seat by using two techniques. One is to vary the sentence length and the other is to heighten description.

So, we should sing songs we make up about flying or something, and then sing them, yes?

Brett Nortje
03-31-2015, 06:33 PM
Heat through tension, what could be easier? maybe playing music, or listening to music that is about working a hard day or breaking up with someone, or, even better, orchestra music that is tense will help? you could play music even softly or sing the words or hum the chords to make it more 'tense?'

Brett Nortje
03-31-2015, 06:40 PM
So, we know how it must move - by heating the area beyond where it wants to go - and we know how to 'make it hot.' this means we can just get a link between us and it, yes?

How do we do this? maybe we should try to touch the object first then pull our hand slowly away? this will leave a tell tale trail between us and the object, and, then there will be a particle line between us and it.

Giving it a name will help. maybe a name of the lover in the song?

Or, we could imagine, as if we were in the matrix, a hyper link in programming to embed this object into our mind, yes?

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 02:34 PM
I have already shown you how to shift and such, but now i want to up it for those of you that can shift. this is where you think of a place, see a place or know of a place and appear there somehow magically, going right through walls and stuff.

So, if you want to 'teleport' properly you need to see the place for the best result, know of the place well for the second best result and only know of the place for th worst result.

To do this you need to use photons to accelerate you, and quarks to carry you from behind. the photons reflect off your eyes, so you need to see the place to get there. if you were to observe that quarks will have the gooey stuff that carries your mass, you will observe that they can get behind you and under you to 'carry' you there.

To do this you need to point your feet in the right direction and jump into the air to get there, like you are leaping through a door that is about to close, yes? then, you need to force yourself forwards to the place that you want to be at by first guiding your 'focus' through your eyes and then obviously leaping in that direction. then, you will have to focus your feet in the right direction and your hands too, pointing in that direction.

Maybe some command words will help? i suggest greek for move or something, being, "metakiní̱ste mou ekeí , ópo̱s to chárisma." if we were to say this rhyme it is a song and therefore a spell, so that is focus, jump and 'sing,' yes?

Now, we need to learn how things move in the real world!

I suppose it could be about electrons bonding with other electrons and moving into their places. this means, we are all like water and will move through the universe from 'pool' to 'pool' or rivet to rivet and google maps coordinates to google maps coordinates. this can be done by 'activating' your body to accelerate the movements from one place to another by making your energy and mass move through the rivets without stopping there, translating quickly to another location by sending samples of your 'being' to the other 'place.'

This could be done by projecting your energy to another place. this means of course that you use photons to carry your information quickly through the 'air' to the next place, yes?

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 02:43 PM
Also, you need to mentally prepare for this. you need to think of the other place, and also see yourself there - imagination, of course, the more accurately you picture yourself there, the better - look into two mirrors a lot while you are off duty in your clothes to get an idea of what you look like from behind.

You also may need to master the physics and cellular division. if you were to see your cells dividing and rearranging back into place, then you could put yourself together properly, but maybe that is too advanced for both of us?

Maybe if you were to use 'base electron signatures,' you could send the 'information' about your 'mass' to go through the air to there. if you were to move your body, you need to learn your body. spend time observing every detail of your body, every hair. why not 'upload' a up to particle diagram of your body to the memory uploader and feed this into your brain? then, you will be able to know every detail of your body, and, then upload it through your memory to the next location jumping through the air and saying the 'command words' and then imagine your body there, yes?

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 02:48 PM
Also, you need to know the location well. if you were to have other matter there, then you would be in trouble! so, seeing as how all air is made of stuff, it needs to move out the way.

The second command should therefore be;

"aéria prépei na exaplo̱theí tóso to théma mas boreí na pantref̱teí."

As you can see, there is a lot of need for both hemispheres of the brain to get this right, the left or off hand side being primal and figment oriented, and the usually right hand being the consious or focus side that understands things logically. left, primal, right, logical.

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 03:17 PM
This would be fun! i mean, you could fool all your friends, or get the date you want, yes?

Now, to get this right, you need to upload your anatomy to your mind and upload the anatomy of the person you want to 'impersonate.'

Then, you need to understand how to change your face, you have heard i can do this yes? or, it happens for me all the time actually, only slightly though.

It is to do with blood pressure and bones. when you clench your jaw, you see it change what you look like. when you are happy, your face looks different. so, it is emotional and physical and when you practice focusing your emotions, you will be able to alter your appearance, of course.

Now, if you want to make it so different that you look like someone else, then you need to first upload, imagine and focus your emotions.

There might be a song to help this;

"to próso̱po tha prépei na eínai san ekeíni̱ ti̱n proso̱pikóti̱ta."

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 03:18 PM
If you were to imagine your face changing, you need to understand how cells grow and deplete or rot away. have that uploaded too. maybe also how bones grow and deplete too, yes?

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 03:37 PM
This is to deflect fire from enemies. it might also be more useful against other's spells, yes?

If we want to shield ourselves with our magic, i suggest we upload the physics of the shield technology and open our hands or raise our fore arms to block. this would mean that we would need to learn the physical components to make it easier, of course.

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 03:39 PM
"Stamatí̱ste indpending kíndyno gia na échoun orgí̱ ​​se af̱tó to xéno."

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 04:21 PM
To go invisible, you need to know your terrain, so a vector mapper that uploads things to your mind will help a lot, yes?

Seriously though, if you want to go invisible, you could use google glasses to map the terrain and then you could blend into it quite easily.

Or, you could use your eyes to look at the terrain for a minute or two, and then think of the colors of the terrain. then, you could look at the vegetation or brick work too, this would only take a few seconds, of course.

Then, you could move into that area and think of the things you have 'mapped.' basic color and brick work would make you rather invisible on the walls and in the trees, but to get to the nitty gritty;

"eínai mia amartía , allá epitrépste mou na dénoun."

Then, you could try to imagine yourself as if you were changing your face! think of that mask of a thousand faces as a requirement for this, yes? instead of thinking of your face, think of your clothing and skin, both at the same time. imagine throwing a blanket over yourself, yes?

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 04:23 PM
Okay, more work is required.

If you were to already have the required mask of a thousand faces spell slotted, then you could simply observe that clothing is also natural, and, will be made of the same stuff as the skin you have, at a cellular level anyways, as, in cotton or wet suits, they are made of bio stuff, yes?

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 04:24 PM
Okay, more work is required.

To make this work out well, you also need to use photons onto your skin, or, even better deflect photons off your skin! this can be done by mastering the spell shield, of course!

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 04:37 PM
More work is required.

So far, you need to [1] use the command words, or say them softly, and have mastered the [2] mask and [3] shield spells. you also need to [4] observe the area you are in, or moving to. maybe moving slowly would help?

Then, you need to know your color pallet! if you were to have all the colors uploaded to your mind, you could observe where the colors mix and stuff, and, learn the chemicals of the colors. then, you could say;

"eínai mia amartía , allá epitrépste mou na dénoun alláxete ta chró̱mata tou dérmatos mou."

To change your whole body from one signature to the next visually, yes? this new command line or wording replaces the previous one, of course, which was a work in progress.

Then, you need to learn not to make a noise and give off no heat nor smell, to fool attack dogs or the local pit bull in your neighborhood of course.

To do this, you need to alter your smell to that of the stuff around you, and, cool your body temporarily so that it gives off no heat, yes?

Then, you need to upload the chemicals to smell with, and, 'instructions' for cellular division and processing of fuels.

After you have uploaded this new information, you need to learn which smell smells like what, so, there must be a simple smell test of chemicals for horse dung and wet and new, wet cement. uploading these and other smells to the minds of the person will allow them to mask their smell in natural and urban environments, of course, but, the 'command' has changed now;

"eínai mia amartía , allá epitrépste mou na dénoun , na alláxete ta chró̱mata tou dérmatos mou , epitrépste mou na myrísei se af̱tó syngení̱s , o Cody leitourgíes prépei na stamatí̱sei gia leptó."

So now that should work. wait while i test it!

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 04:40 PM
To get this to work properly we need more input!

So, you [1] say your command words, [2] think of the terrain, [3] think of your smells and heat signature and change them to something you chemically know, [4] need to have mastered shield and mas spells, yes?

Brett Nortje
04-08-2015, 04:54 PM
Also, you need to focus on your body while you move.

One important thing i forgot was noise! if you were to want to create no noise, as the google glasses of our can pick that up, you would need to scramble the glasses! this means you would need to throw your voice, which will be easy to learn by uploading the tricks of the magicians and mastering it at home, of course.

Digitally, though, you need to create no noise at all. this can be done by stopping your breathingby holding your breathe, which could be made easier with a deep diving spell, of course. but, we don't have that yet, so, we need to not even breathe out, as then we will be picked up on glasses!

So, we need to learn to hold our breathes from the world masters eventually, like mossad agents and stuff, to avoid detection. this can be done, i think, by uploading the techniques and practicing them, of course. if you were to learn controlled breathing from the army secret agent files, that would help too!

Now, we need to do this chemically, to stop the noise we need to create a silencer for this. this means we need to learn how sound suppression works with dance music equipment and how silencers for guns make it quite. this of course needs to be uploaded, or studied for months if you cannot afford an upload.

The command thus becomes;

"eínai mia amartía , allá epitrépste mou na dénoun , na alláxete ta chró̱mata tou dérmatos mou , epitrépste mou na myrísei se af̱tó moiázei , leitourgíes tou só̱matos prépei na stamatí̱sei sti̱n árni̱si̱ , den kánoun ton í̱cho gia dokimí̱ tou chrónou , myrízei san louloúdia lígo ."

I think that is it!

[1] say the commands softly,
[2] see, smell and hear your terrain,
[3] know mask of a thousand faces and shield spell,
[4] focus your energies to change how you want them.

Brett Nortje
04-09-2015, 06:29 PM
There is a annoying little voice in my head, and, i am sure, the heads of others that they do not want to hear. this voice is what i call the voice of doubt. getting rid of the voice of doubt is important for the effects of magic on the whole, so let us get rid of it, yes?

Now, every figment has vocal chords, and ripping them out will remove the ability to make us doubt further. i think this is imagination magic, of course.

So, we need to imagine the vocal chords of the 'person' or abomination we are trying to get rid of. for this to work, we need to know how the human body works, so, uploading or reading through a average detail textbook about human anatomy will help.


The vocal folds, also known commonly as vocal cords or voice reeds, are composed of twin infoldings of mucous membrane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membrane)stretched horizontally, from back to front, across the larynx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larynx). They vibrate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibration), modulating the flow of air being expelled from the lungs duringphonation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonation).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_folds#cite_note-1)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_folds#cite_note-Titze.2C_I.R._1994-2)[3]
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_folds#cite_note-3)Open during inhalation, closed when holding one's breath, and vibrating for speech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech) or singing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing) (oscillating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscillation) 440 times per second when singing A above middle C (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_C)), the folds are controlled via the vagus nerve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve). They are white because of scant blood circulation.

So, the vocal chords of the voice of doubt are made of mucous. if they were to dry up, they would cease to function, of course. hell, this voice comes from wetness! if the mucous was to simply be melted somehow, the voice would stop.

To melt the mucous, and make it go down the throat or wherever, we need heat. this can be done by heating the 'box' by way of, oh never mind! let's try another approach?

So, to make the box brittle and fold in on itself, we need to remove circulation from it. this means, of course, seeing as how circulation is so 'scant,' we could dry up the blood vessels inside it and stop it receiving fuels. this will make it die quite quickly, as it moves all the time, they say, i think.

Hey! hold on a second! if we were to make the cells divide too quickly, they will clot it up themselves! this can be done by cellular division, or, as a previous spell, blink will move the mass from one area to another, and, if they were to instead of moving mass, accelerate cellular division as mass, then they would see the box or any part of the body swell up. this could be the same as instead of moving mass, which can already be done, create mass!

So, we need to make the mass more by cellular division. this will swell the box so it stops air getting into the lungs!

Brett Nortje
04-09-2015, 06:48 PM
Now, for this to work out 'well,' we need to focus our energies on the voice box itself, picture it in our mind. then, we need to rub our hands together to make warmth, and focus on our hands, saying softly;

"Eán af̱tó to prágma eínai éna parásito , kai eímai sígouros óti écho̱ díkio , kánei tis chordés sta fo̱ni̱tiká pli̱mmýra tou , tous gemízoun me aíma infintely !."

Now, if this was to work out well, we need to use the incantation correctly. then, we need to focus on the box rubbing our hands, and imagine the blood filling the box until it explodes or something.

To do this, we need to get more blood into the chords. this means we need to up the heart rate. this means we need to excite the person. this means we need to create a traumatic experience too! this can be done by using disturbing images in telepathy, using expert psychology and image therapy to make them excited and hyperventilate, creating too much blood to circulate and over working the heart. hell, this could be a heart attack!

[1] rub our hands together,
[2] say our command words,
[3] focus on the heart rate and organ,
[4] flood the channel with excessive imagery.

Brett Nortje
04-09-2015, 07:04 PM
Now, we have so far created a sort of spell without knowing how to do it to the body.

We want to accelerate the heart rate so the heart explodes or something, let's call it a heart attack? to do this we need to accelerate breathing rates and adrenaline levels and fuel processing.

So, we need to expel air from the lungs faster than they can take air in! this would mean that we would want to hit the person repeatedly in the stomach, or, emotionally strain the person. if we were to scare the mind of the person, we would need to make them think they are small in a big world, first of all.

Then, they would need to think they are threatened or something. maybe by flashing images of something they want, like money or something, they will get excited, being more primitive, and then then they will have heart attacks with images of them in that area?

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 10:44 AM
* this project has been disbanded. *

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 11:07 AM
For this to work, we need to know the chemical structure of acid. this is ripe in the air, as i can validate with a quote;


An acid (from the Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) acidus/acēre meaning sour[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid#cite_note-1)) is a chemical substance whose aqueous solutions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqueous_solution) are characterized by a sour taste, the ability to turn blue litmus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litmus) red, and the ability to react with bases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_(chemistry)) and certain metals (like calcium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium)) to form salts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_(chemistry)). Aqueous solutions of acids have a pH (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH) of less than 7. Non-aqueous acids are usually formed when an anion reacts with one or more positively charged hydrogen cations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_ion). A lower pH means a higher acidity, and thus a higher concentration of positive hydrogen ions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydron_(chemistry)) in the solution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solution). Chemicals or substances having the property of an acid are said to be acidic.

So, we drop the p.h. in hydrogen in the air around the object to less than 7. this can be done by observing;



Sulfuric acid is a highly corrosive strong mineral acid with the molecular formula H₂SO₄. It is a pungent-ethereal, colorless to slightly yellow viscous liquid which is soluble in water at all concentrations. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfuric_acid)



Molar mass (https://www.google.co.za/search?client=opera&hs=utx&q=sulfuric+acid+molar+mass&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDgwUHnxCHfq6-gbl5TpGWVnaylX5yRmpuZnFJUSWElZyYE5-cn1uQX5qXYpWbn5NYpJCbWFwcV3Fq3q0VHzVC_c5-3V-78asg6-weAJu6QYRVAAAA&sa=X&ei=NfInVZeDOIqQ7AbBtIHQBw&ved=0CIwBEOgTKAAwEw): 98.079 g/mol


Density (https://www.google.co.za/search?client=opera&hs=utx&q=sulfuric+acid+density&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDgykHnxCHfq6-gbl5TpGWenaylX5yRmpuZnFJUSWElZyYE5-cn1uQX5qXYpWSmlecWVJZeDiacf1v7U1caoympkwWL_JKj04AA JqBuw1SAAAA&sa=X&ei=NfInVZeDOIqQ7AbBtIHQBw&ved=0CI8BEOgTKAAwFA): 1.84 g/cm³


IUPAC ID (https://www.google.co.za/search?client=opera&hs=utx&q=sulfuric+acid+iupac+id&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDgxkHnxCHfq6-gbl5TpGWRnaylX5yRmpuZnFJUSWElZyYE5-cn1uQX5qXYpVZWpCYrJCZ0rv35u_Stw-vy5wwWvW6Ie3337pqAQDf2c7IUwAAAA&sa=X&ei=NfInVZeDOIqQ7AbBtIHQBw&ved=0CJIBEOgTKAAwFQ): Sulfuric acid


Melting point (https://www.google.co.za/search?client=opera&hs=utx&q=sulfuric+acid+melting+point&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDgzUHnxCHfq6-gbl5TpGWbnaylX5yRmpuZnFJUSWElZyYE5-cn1uQX5qXYpWbmlOSmZeuUJCfmVeSOu-lwNl3DAI_J3oekVQ9KSelPLUaAIO16TlYAAAA&sa=X&ei=NfInVZeDOIqQ7AbBtIHQBw&ved=0CJUBEOgTKAAwFg): 10 °C


Boiling point (https://www.google.co.za/search?client=opera&hs=utx&q=sulfuric+acid+boiling+point&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDgzUHnxCHfq6-gbl5TpGWbnaylX5yRmpuZnFJUSWElZyYE5-cn1uQX5qXYpWUn5mTmZeuUJCfmVeyRydVkP9uodkr1s0dJ94-OczasC4OAG4ApOFYAAAA&sa=X&ei=NfInVZeDOIqQ7AbBtIHQBw&ved=0CJgBEOgTKAAwFw): 337 °C


Formula (https://www.google.co.za/search?client=opera&hs=utx&q=sulfuric+acid+formula&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDgykHnxCHfq6-gbl5TpGWenaylX5yRmpuZnFJUSWElZyYE5-cn1uQX5qXYpWWX5RbmpP4I-bJZA5zy58fFG3X3AzLcozR0eIBAD0ySGlSAAAA&sa=X&ei=NfInVZeDOIqQ7AbBtIHQBw&ved=0CJsBEOgTKAAwGA): H2SO4



So, we want to turn hydrogen into sulphuric acids to burn away metals and things like guns in the hands of evil doers, yes? or, at least the barrel or first bullet to come out should melt to the barrel and jam the gun, of course!

If we were to observe that we need to change the structure of atoms of air along the way to the object or target, then we need to have a visual! we need a visual for some spells, and this would be cool, yes?

Therefore, we need electrify the air with our own energy of sugars and things from our finger tips to give the 'fields' direction of a sort. this means, of course, we need to channel the energy to our finger tips and then make as if our finger tips extend to the target, yes? this will send our energy from our cells to our shoulder to our finger tips and then it will relay from there a distance. this will be like throwing a ball - from our shoulder to our arms to our fingers and then the ball keep traveling, yes?

So, we need to observe the balance of hydrogen ions and affect them from our fingers to the target. this will excite the chemicals in the air from short distance to medium distance, being the strongest point where they will be the most developed before they dissipate or break up.

The incantation for this should be;

"Enérgeia apó to só̱ma mou na pernáei apó to chéri mou , as to pH pései páno̱ stous stóchous ."

Now, we need to;

[1] summon energy from our bodies,
[2] observe the air's composition to form the way we want it to, changing it with our own energies in a 'bolt,'
[3] chant the incantation,
[4] think of the air changing into the form we want it to be over the distance.

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 11:16 AM
We can change the composition of the air by using heat from our bodies energy, to dissolve the rest of the air elements or atoms and gain more or less hydrogen, of course.

To lower the p.h. we need to either heat or cool the air though, i am not sure which. i suppose if it melts at ten degrees centigrade, we need to cool the air, yes? this can be done by observing the mechanics of freezers, of course.


Refrigeration is a process in which work is done to move heat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat) from one location to another. The work of heat transport is traditionally driven by mechanical work (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_work), but can also be driven by heat, magnetism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetism), electricity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity), laser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser), or other means. Refrigeration has many applications, including, but not limited to: household refrigerators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator), industrial freezers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freezer), cryogenics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenics), and air conditioning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_conditioning). Heat pumps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_pump) may use the heat output of the refrigeration process, and also may be designed to be reversible, but are otherwise similar to refrigeration units.

So, we need to move the heat away in a 'wave.' if we were to observe this could also be called a bolt of cold with acidic composition, maybe that would be better?

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 11:20 AM
To create this wave, maybe we should swing our arms towards the target, creating a cone of cold or something? it could help to know how to cool air, by, using negative ions to pulse through the air, yes?

So, to get this right, we need to;

[1] swing our arms towards the targets,
[2] chant our incantation,
[3] think of heat being pushed out of the way with cold air,
[4] remember to think of the chemical structure of the acids and chant the formula.

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 11:40 AM
Lightning bolt should be easier now that we know how to project acid and cool air!

For this to work we need to observe that;


Lightning is a sudden electrostatic discharge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_discharge) during an electric storm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_storm) between electrically charged (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_charge) regions of a cloud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thundercloud) (called intra-cloud lightning or IC), between that cloud and another cloud (CC lightning), or between a cloud and the ground (CG lightning). The charged regions within the atmosphere temporarily equalize themselves through a lightning flash, commonly referred to as a strike (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_strike) if it hits an object on the ground. Although lightning is always accompanied by the sound of thunder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunder), distant lightning may be seen but may be too far away for the thunder to be heard

So, if we were to master electrons, we need to electrify the area with a 'wave' and then project a bolt of lightning with say a smaller wave? this wave should be more of a 'open hand push,' or, a fist striking the air.

If we were to project our hands or extremities in the direction of the target, we could direct the air to become electrical with electron activity. then, we could amplify it with a 'relay signal,' where the air becomes a tributary or river type of thing like a delta where it spirals out towards the target.

For this to work, we need to know how to conduct electricity from atom to atom, relaying it on the oxygen, as it is heat of sorts, yes? then, we need to accelerate this heat to the target. thsi could be either a fireball or a lightning strike, or, both!

The incantation could be;

"I̱ thermóti̱ta kai to krýo sta chéria mou , gia to stócho af̱tó tha prosgeio̱theí , deíte to páo̱ na do̱ na páei , na parakolouthí̱sete to soúper magikí̱ parástasi̱ !"

But, before we can do this, we need to learn acid bolt or whatever, as well as magic missile.

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 02:28 PM
This wave of fatigue will make others feel tired and sleepy, draining them of vitae too. it is similar to a sleep spell or a ray of enfeeblement, but let's do it over? i think it works differently, of course.

So, if we were to observe that people need fuel to power their bodies, they will feel tired if they were to have fuels over process or under process, yes? this means, of course, that we could make the others feel tired if they were to have a wave of energy wash over them that will disrupt the feeding of their cells, yes?

If we were to charge a wave of electrical energy that washes over them and eats away at their energy, then we will need to observe the anatomy and biochemistry of that person, or, life in general. this would mean exerting a force on them of heat, of course, but not a fireball! if we were to stress the person out with a heat wave, or, a lot of people, then they will simply fall to the floor.

This can be done with humidity, of course. creating a low pressure system will result in this working well if it is warm. so, we need to have heat from electrons and low pressure from winds, so, we will be creating wind too. this wave of 'electrons' and 'air' that pushes the coolness out of the area will be with relays or accelerations of our own movements, as, we can create warmth with our own energies too!

So, we need to read up on convection currents and energy relays. then, we need to affect the life force of the individual by confusing their nervous system, of course.

The command words for this will;

"Chri̱simopoií̱ste to kýma aéra gia na kánei zestó , diochetéf̱soun ti̱n enérgeia sto myaló afoplízei ."

Hope you have all of that!

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 02:40 PM
To blind someone you need to look into their eyes and focus your own energy over theirs. if your energy is greater, then you will blind them, of course.

This can be done by making the most aggressive eye contact you can, making them emotionally 'scared' and stiff for a second, as well as maybe making them blink or something. also, it will make them disoriented if you do it correctly. if you were to study emotional conditions, you could project a few daggers at their eyes to make them really not able to focus on you!

This has happened to me too. i was playing with knives in the kitchen and then i could not look into the eyes of others for a while, let alone looking at them - all i could do was flee!

So, if you want to really blind someone for a few moments, you would need to chant;

"Órasi̱ se órasi̱ , koitázo̱ makriá í̱ ptí̱si̱ ."

Now, if you were to study what eyes look like when they are mocking someone, or being cruel, or focusing, you will know the iris needs to get smaller for that effect, yes?

Channeling your own energy out of your eyes to the target's eyes would result in using photons to get there and carry energy into their eyes, only a telepathic message that they are being judged by their society as to what will happen to them if they flee! think of this too, yes?

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 02:52 PM
If you want to animate a object with life force so it can speak to you, like a faerie, then you need to use up some of your magical energy or to make it quicker, some of your own life force. this could be bad for you, of course.

You must touch the thing, and then channel it some consciousness of the living type. this will be like exciting the object with electrical energy enough to communicate, of course. this will require some of your own energy, not your life force, come to think of it!

In effect you will be charging the object with energy that will flow through it, so, non conductors are preferred, as, they will insulate the energy in them and the area you touch will be where they stay. safe to say that animating a object to have the whole thing communicating would take a while!

So, let's say you want your kids to play with toys that can speak back using telepathy, then you would need to use 'symbolism' of the object to touch their whole mouths. then, you will need to animate it by forcing your own energy into it. then, you need to 'teach' it words by thinking of baby sounds and object recognition, like a program, of course. if you know how to program, you could send it into the object by thinking of the key strokes in your mind and make it as if it were a toy that says things while it has the switch on like with electrical toys, yes?

The commands for this before hand and at regular intervals will be;

"Dó̱ste af̱tó to antikeímeno anása ti̱s zo̱í̱s , as eínai na milí̱sei me enérgeia gemáti̱ !"

So, this will help it speak to your children, if you know what i mean. to make it make sounds, you need to know how speakers work, and, then designate 'chords' or 'features' as if they were parts of speakers, yes?

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 03:03 PM
To make the object move, say it is a model, toy or something else, then you need to touch it all over and feed your energy into it, while chanting;

"Zo̱ntanepste af̱tó to antikeímeno o̱s sklávo mou , afí̱ste to na kini̱theí pros voí̱theia mou , an af̱tó voi̱thá egó̱ tha ti̱n antimeto̱písoume kalá , mou stereí ypi̱resía Paradó̱ste ta akyró̱sei charoúmeni̱ mágia mou . As to zí̱soume , as zo̱ntaná , exypi̱retoún mou kalá kai sti̱ synécheia paramoní̱s zo̱í̱ ."

This will let it live while helping you, if you code it right, yes?

You need to transfer energy from you into it. it will move as if it had muscles and stuff, and, will see through photons around it, and hear by sound waves bouncing off of it.

The hardest part is the 'muscles.' they will require energy to move, so, charge it enough with electrons. the most important thing to remember is that it is not a conductor, as then it would bleed off. if it is a plastic or ceramic thing, then remember that the energy stored in it's parts will stay with it as it will just conduct to other areas through the air around it.

Brett Nortje
04-10-2015, 11:38 PM
I am done with this thread at the moment, moving onto other threads, splitting it up, so to speak.

Who enjoyed it? :flames:

Brett Nortje
06-29-2017, 07:45 AM
Ah, this brings back memories... i remember the first type of this magic working on the 31st of march, 2015, when my one woman friend made a knife fly. the next spell to work was the lightning and fire one...

Devil'sAdvocate
09-25-2017, 04:15 PM
There is no such thing as magic. It's just petty manipulation of the placebo effect.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke

Captdon
09-26-2017, 04:53 PM
Magic is a ripoff. I tried it and got an ass-kicking from someone who didn't liked being fooled. Today, I'm into voodoo. It's foolproof. One needle and you're done.